Instead of Going Away Leak Shows ATF Expanding to Four New Branches

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MARTINSBURG, WV-(Ammoland.com)- Recently AmmoLand News ran an article talking about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) plan to double in size. Now, due to a newly obtained internal document by AmmoLand News sources, we know part of the expansion plan.

Effective October 31, 2021, the ATF will be establishing four (4) new branches.

Biden ATF Forming Four New Branches 2021 Organization Chart
Biden ATF Forming Four New Branches 2021 Organization Chart

The new branches will be the Firearms Enforcement Officer Development Branch (FEODB) and three Field Response Branches (FRB). The newly announced additions will be part of the Firearms and Ammunitions Technology Division (FATD) and the Officer of Enforcement Programs and Services (EPS).

The FRBs will be broken up into three regions (east, central, west). Each FRB will be responsible for the administration, oversight, and management of the Firearms Enforcement Officer (FEO) Regional Field Response Program.

ATF Firearms Enforcement Officer (FEO) Regional Field Response Program Map
ATF Firearms Enforcement Officer (FEO) Regional Field Response Program Map

These new field offices with regional FEO are a departure from the current FEO setup. Right now, all FEOs work out of Martinsburg, WV. The new setup would have FEO permanently assigned to regional offices across the country. FEOs examine evidence in criminal and civil cases for FATD. For example, an FEO looked at the Rare Breed Trigger and determined it to be a machine gun.

The FEO will be a mix of current FEOs and new hires. The new employees will be assigned to one of seven hubs. The west branch will consist of hubs in Seattle, Denver, and Las Vegas. The east unit will include offices in Chicago, Kansas City, and Dallas. The final hubs will be in the east and consist of Atlanta and Martinsburg. Dallas will be the first hub to roll out during the second quarter of 2022.

The ATF says it needs regional hubs to assist in “identifying criminal firearms and ammunition violations within a field division or office.” The Bureau also states that FEO will now be able to provide scene assistance for when the ATF executes a search warrant in a timely manner.

The ATF says the new setup will save the government money!? When has more government ever saved taxpayers money?

According to the document, one regional FEO cost the government $21,5000 per FEO per year, minus a leased vehicle, travel cost, and TDY expenses. An FEO at Martinsburg cost the ATF $30,500, with travel cost added into the equation. The cost model with all costs for the pilot programs shows that each FEO will cost the government $104,316 per FEO for one year, which is significantly higher than $30,500. None of these costs include the salaries of the FEOs.

The FEO Development Branch will be set up to help new FEOs in the field offices navigate the training. They will also provide the “administrative function and efficient management of the FEO Professional Career Training Plan” of the new offices.

The ATF list the disadvantages of the change as “none.” What is concerning is the ATF uses the base cost per regional FEO with no expenses included and includes expenses when looking at the yearly cost for an FEO at Martinsburg. When all cost is calculated, the regional FEO assignment is significantly more expensive than having all the FEOs under one roof. That isn’t even considering the cost of all the new employees needed to support the new regional FEOs, including the employees required to run the new Developmental Branch. And all for what purpose, but for increased harassment by an unconstitutional government agency.

This leak shows a significant expansion of the ATF. AmmoLand News will continue to monitor the ATF’s growth trajectory.

View the full document here:

Biden ATF Forming Four New Branches 2021 Organization Chart Brief ATF B 1030.207


About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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Larry
Larry (@larry)
1 month ago

The ATF says the new setup will save the government money!? When has more government ever saved taxpayers money?”

It will cost $0. It will be paid for by taxes on rich gun manufacturers. When they are bankrupt, the program will be deemed a success.

jfrich
jfrich (@jfrich)
1 month ago

The BATFE Like Nearly every other Federal Agency is Unconstitutional, and a Sign of the Overreach of the Federal Government. The Feds have Assumed Way More Power and Control than They are Constitutionally Permitted! There is Only One Way to Undo this, and We All Know what that is! The Federal Government will Never Voluntarily Reduce it Role!

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Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  jfrich

Their existence is not unconstitutional, but most everything that they do is unconstitutional, and a result of fed gov overreach.
The right president could dispatch BATFE… with a memo.

Last edited 1 month ago by Wild Bill
Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  jfrich

The existence of the BATFE is not illegal or unconstitutional because the Sec. Treas had and has the authority to create work units as he sees fit. Such a memo created the ATF. Congress did not create the BATFE by an enabling Act (as it does with most agencies) thus the BATFE does not have the protection of a Congressional Act. BATFE has been transferred to the Dept of Homeland security, therefore a memo from the Sec Homeland Security can eliminate the BATFE with a revocation memo of his own. Here is the scoop from a bona fide expert: Who… Read more »

Henry Bowman
Henry Bowman (@henry_bowman)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

An agency whose express purpose is to violate the Rights of Americans is unconstitutional by way of several SCOTUS decisions, starting with Marbury v Madison. Federal law also states plainly that deprivation of Rights (any Right) under color of law is a FELONY. This government is wholly illegitimate, corrupt, criminal, tyrannical, treasonous, and just plain EVIL. If you’re at least 40 years old you should know when this became the case: April 19, 1993.
The fact that I gotta explain this to you doesn’t speak well for you.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Henry Bowman

Congress has the power to create agencies. The agency’s purpose and workings may be unconstitutional.
Marbury was about the S.Ct’s authority to rule Congressional acts or parts thereof unconstitutional. Marbuy was not about agencies. The agencies that we have today were not even thought up in 1803
Yes, I am aware of 42 USC 1983.
The federal government may be corrupt, criminal, tyrannical, treasonous, and just plain EVIL, but it is not wholly illegitimate.
You should have left the insult off the end.
Ahhh, to be forty again!

JimmyS
JimmyS (@jimmys)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

“The federal government may be corrupt, criminal, tyrannical, treasonous, and just plain EVIL, but it is not wholely illigitimate.”

Bill, what the fuck? Did you read those words after you typed them?

That’s like saying, “The meat is maggot-infested, rotting, stinking, green, and oozing filth, but it is not wholely inedible.”

Go ahead and keep eating. I will submit that those very qualities are SPECIFICALLY the ones that make the meat inedible.

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Henry Bowman
Henry Bowman (@henry_bowman)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Dude, I realize that calling the government (specifically the people running it) ‘evil’ is a personal opinion, but I defy you to show me JUST ONE AGENCY that’s operating constitutionally and not as a weaponized system to oppress We The People. You can start by scratching off the Census Bureau, because while their initial function was to determine apportionment as required by the Constitution, they are currently used as a tool to persecute and marginalize everyone who is not sufficiently ‘woke’. Also, it was the agency that made rounding up American CITIZENS of Japanese descent possible, so they could be… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Henry Bowman

I’m not sure cslling the individuals running the federal government “evil” is merely personsl opinion. Joe Biden, Carmilla Harris, Nancy Pelisi, AOC, Illhan? Illian? whatever raghead Omar and the other squads, hell even Jen Psaki are most definitely evil, personal opinions be damned.

Henry Bowman
Henry Bowman (@henry_bowman)
1 month ago

I’m sure there is some sort of objective metric that could determine when a thing or some people are ‘evil’. What that would be, I don’t know. Surely part of that metric would be specific actions that are inherently evil, such as disarming the citizenry, or facilitating the murder of innocents (40 million+ abortions in 2020 alone)! Again, show me any agency part of this regime that’s operating constitutionally. If you can name one, I’ll eat my shirt. Bottom line, if the government is not operating constitutionally, it’s illegitimate. That goes double when the people running it seized power by… Read more »

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Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Wholly illegitimate.

donfranko
donfranko (@donfranko)
1 month ago

ATF reminds me of that old movie, The Blob, with Steve McQueen. Blob keeps eating people alive and growing exponentially. Couldn’t kill it, just froze it and dropped it in the Arctic to keep it cold. We need to FREEZE the Fed. Gov. and ensure it never gets a chance to thaw out and grow again.

Ansel Hazen
Ansel Hazen (@ansel-hazen)
1 month ago
Reply to  donfranko

Freezing cancer cells is a common technique used in medical practice to remove it’s presence in the host vessel. Perhaps local gun stores could start keeping some extra CO2 fire extinguishers on hand.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Ansel Hazen

Most humorous!!

Degforyou
Degforyou (@deg4u)
1 month ago

They need to be extermanated instead of making new jobs costing millions of dollars instead of saving goverment money. When is the trayanne ellimanation going to get started. It’s way past time, we should be almost done.
arm up be ready

Protect defend serve
Protect defend serve (@protect-defend-serve)
1 month ago

Wow, more BAFT offices to “enforce” firearm laws along with ammunition “enforcement”. What BS. They will go looking for violators, creating some along the way if they can’t find any

jfrich
jfrich (@jfrich)
1 month ago

More Criminal Targets Violating Citizens Rights!

gregs
gregs (@gregsodeman)
1 month ago

yea, this will save the government money. since when have they become concerned about spending our money? this will save about as much as buyden’s 3.5T bill that costs nothing. government should be getting smaller instead of larger.

Bill
Bill (@bill1776)
1 month ago

Taxpayers can always be counted on to supply endless money for the government to be able to rule over them.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill

Up voting you and Gregs!!

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago

They really aren’t worried about spending “taxpayer dollars” because they don’t run off of taxpayer dollars. They run off the ability to create money out of thin air and the only reason for “taxpayer dollars” is to make you THINK they need them. THEY DON’T!

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Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

I like that little blurb. Please note that Article I, section 8, clause 5 empowers Congress to “… coin money…” Thus MONEY can only be COINED!
The founders were well aware that other nations were printing paper money that was worthless. The founders did not want Congress to have the authority to make money out of nothing, and therefore limited Congress’s authority to the making of coins knowing that the public would only accept coins that are made of precious metal.
Just giving you a little history to support your position.

Knute Knute
Knute Knute (@knute)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Here’s some more monetary history… and on video to make it easy.
https://goldsilver.com/hidden-secrets/episode-1/

Qui Bono?
Qui Bono? (@ctyankee1976)
1 month ago

Just curious, John. What is the basis for your assertion that the BATF is “an unconstitutional government agency?”

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

DUH? Because it’s main purpose is to violate the 2nd amendment?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

The purpose and works of the BATFE are unconstitutional, but the agency’s existence is not.

Qui Bono?
Qui Bono? (@ctyankee1976)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Thank you. I am looking for facts, not unsupported opinion. If it’s existence were unconstitutional, then it’s elimination should be priority #1. If its policies and procedures are, then reform should be the first priority.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

OK, here are the historically documented facts: On June 6, 1972 Acting Secretary of the Treasury, Charles E. Walker signed Treasury Order Number 120-01 which establishes the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. He did this with the stroke of his PEN citing, “by virtue of the authority vested in me as Secretary of the Treasury, including the authority in Reorganization Plan No. 26 of 1950.” He ordered the, “transfer, as specified herein, the functions, powers and duties of the Internal Revenue Service arising under laws relating to alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives (including the Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms division… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC (@jsnmgc)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Your comments can also be found here (complete with misspelling of the person’s name): http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/gilberts/usdc/judnot06.htm   The BATF (later to become the BATFE) was created by Republicans.   Charls Edward Walker was born in Graham, Texas. He was no simple tax accountant.  He received a PhD in Economics from the same place where Trump received his education. Charls was the Under Secretary of the Treasury from 1969 to 1972. In 1971 and 1972, he worked for John Connally (who worked for Nixon). Charls was a Republican.   John Connally was born in Floresville, Texas. He was Secretary of the Treasury February 11, 1971 – June 12,… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

See, you made my point, Yankees ARE bad. And Cornyn is not a totalitarian, he is an oportunistic pussy.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

How do you reform, but not eliminate, an agency whose entire mission is unconstitutional? I guess, make them the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Fireworks? I got a constitutional problem with that too.

Boz
Boz (@boz)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

MOST govt. “agencies” are unconstitutional. They are not representative, they are unelected, they answer to only one person, they “reguIate” making ruIes and “Iaws”, yet they are NOT a IegisIative body, thus aII of their “reguIations” are iIIegaI.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Boz

The purpose, rule making, and other works of the many agencies may be illegal or unconstitutional, but the creation and existence is not.

Bill
Bill (@bill1776)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

The 2nd and 10th Amendments give something of a clue.

Knute Knute
Knute Knute (@knute)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

In addition to all of the great answers to your question below… This secret expansion is to begin on October 31, 2021. On all hallows eve. The Khazar’s (also sometimes known as “the swamp creatures”) favorite and most holy holiday! Just a fortunate co-incidence? When has a government ever picked dates randomly?

Knute Knute
Knute Knute (@knute)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

My, my. Caught by the censorbots again. Over 50% of the time now. At least the management usually approves them eventually. That’s something anyway. Anyone want to bet it was the term I shall henceforth call the SCs (the ‘mire’ ‘clusters’)?

Last edited 1 month ago by Knute Knute
Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute Knute

Knute, How the hell have you been?!

Knute Knute
Knute Knute (@knute)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Right as rain. I just have a tough time getting through the censorbots nowdays. How’s the horse too old to race doing?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute Knute

All the cows, horses, dogs, and even the the three legged cat are quite well. We are all glad that the oppressive hot summer is over and we getting ready for winter.

Knute Knute
Knute Knute (@knute)
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute Knute

Now the trolls are even downvoting questions about horse health? How much lower can they go? Let’s try puppies!
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Degforyou
Degforyou (@deg4u)
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute Knute

I got mine caught at the beginning of these replys.

Degforyou
Degforyou (@deg4u)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

Because they are, they were created from a memmo the IRS wrote. If you want to know more, ask Deplorable Bill or do some research.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Degforyou

That is not quite correct. The existence of the BATFE is not illegal or unconstitutional because the Sec. Treas had and has the authority to create work units as he sees fit. Such a memo created the ATF. Congress did not create the BATFE by an enabling Act (as it does with most agencies) thus the BATFE does not have the protection of a Congressional Act. BATFE has been transferred to the Dept of Homeland security, therefore a memo from the Sec Homeland Security can eliminate the BATFE with a revocation memo of his own. Here is the scoop from… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Wild Bill
Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago

An excellent suggestion, but to do that we need someone in the presidency that will. No pun intended.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I BET TRUMP WILL!!! NOT!!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

If you would write the memo that reminds the BATFE, I would support your campaign, donate to your campaign, and vote for you!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

That should be “rescinds” the memo that created the BATFE. I do not know why spell check changed the wording to reminds. Damn computers. Sorry for any confusion.

nrringlee
nrringlee (@nrringlee)
1 month ago

You left a few off the chart. First would be the Thought Crimes Branch. They will work with the regional Liberty Suppression Branches and report directly to the People’s Republic of China Liaison Branch.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  nrringlee

The whole department is a Thought Crimes department. Where is the VICTIM for possessing a “machine gun”? Where is the VICTIM for possessing a “short barrel rifle”?
Where is the VICTIM for possessing a “short barrel shot gun”? Where is the VICTIM if someone fills out a piece of paper differently then what “they” want? Where is the VICTIM if someone who smokes Mary Jane has possession of a firearm for self defense? You get my point. The ATF’s main purpose is to CAGE people for VICTIMLESS “crimes”. Their motto should be; “What Constitution? We don’t need to stinking Constitution”.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

Yeah, but they would have to get the exact slurred, drunken, sneering foreign accent just right.

barnjoer
barnjoer (@barnjoer)
1 month ago

The corrupt people in Washington have forgot they are employees of WE THE PEOPLE!! It is time for them to pay for the corruption they have caused in this country!!

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  barnjoer

LOL! You really BELIEVE THAT? Here, let me give you a red pill to consider: There is a reason that “they” don’t listen to the people anymore. There is a reason they ignore the provisions of the 2nd amendment. The reason is that the lynch pins to the Constitution were removed in 1903 & 1913. In 1903 the blatantly UNconstitional Dick Act, which was a blatant act of TREASON, eviscerated states rights with the ending of STATE militias. Those first 13 words of the 2nd Amendment are perhaps the most IMPORTANT 13 words in the whole Constitution. A well regulated MILITIA… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

I like your enthusiasm, but there are a few corrections the Dick Act had to do with upgrading the national guard of the various states. In the course of upgrades since that time, the Dick Act was repealed, but the unorganized militia still remains. You and I belong to the unorganized militia. In 1913, the constitution was amended to allow for an income tax, but did not change the monetary system, to wit: “Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census… Read more »

Qui Bono?
Qui Bono? (@ctyankee1976)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

Not entirely accurate – we still have a state militia in addition to the National Guard: Sec. 27-1. Persons subject to military duty.  All male citizens and all male residents of the state who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, between the ages of eighteen and forty-five years, not exempt by law, shall be subject to military duty and designated as the militia. Sec. 27-2. Classes of militia.  The militia shall be divided into four classes as follows: The unorganized militia, the organized militia, the National Guard and the naval militia. The National Guard for… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Qui Bono?

Good synopsis. Which state’s statutes are you quoting, here?

hippybiker
hippybiker (@hippy-biker)
1 month ago

“He has created a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance”.
“He has kept among us, in times of Peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our Legislatures.”
That’s was in the 1700s. It seems to be no different now!
Juste remember my fellow Americans…The Declaration of Independence has never been rescinded!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  hippybiker

All true, but note that, curiously, our federal government has been careful not to enshrine the Declaration of Independence into law, either. It is merely an historical document.
Up voting you for your good point

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

“our” federal government? OUR??? Not in our lifetime! The Declaration of Independence IS the founding document. Why would it need to be “enshrined” into law?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

Absent being part of federal law, the Declaration of Independence is not part of federal law.
If you do not like “our” pick a different preposition.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

Because if it is not law, it can be ignored.

Happy Everafter
Happy Everafter (@mart3)
1 month ago

Nah, not gonna happen. We will never see this come to fruition. My government is so careful about spending MY TAX DOLLARS so frivolously, and respecting my rights… Nope, just don’t believe it.

So, how many unelected officials does it take to control a nation?

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago

Your “tax dollars” are only paid to make you THINK they need them. Did it work? I’d say yes…see a previous response above on that same subject.

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Tank
Tank (@voodoo6actual)
1 month ago

Expanding the government while incrementally abolishing individual rights. What could possibly go wrong.

swmft
swmft (@swmft)
1 month ago
Reply to  Tank

so these are the first jack boots

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  swmft

Not the first.

Jaque
Jaque (@jaque)
1 month ago

It matters little. The ATF is a monkey fucking a football and no amount of reorganization will change that. They create crimes that ones sane mind cannot conceive possible. They use the authority congress gave them as tyrants without the limitations the Constitution bears upon them. Therefore ATF personell violate their oath with perfection and consistancy.

Laddyboy
Laddyboy (@laddyboy)
1 month ago
Reply to  Jaque

When did CONgress give these AFT actors “legal authority”? The “ATF” was formed ILLEGALLY by a director in the “IRS”!

Arny
Arny (@dmaxter)
1 month ago
Reply to  Laddyboy

IRS is illegal too. So one unconstitutional organization forming another.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Arny

What makes you think that the Internal Revenue Service is illegal?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Ahhh, yes. The some of the acts of the IRS are illegal, and something does have to be done about it.
Congress, however, has the authority to lay and collect taxes. Congress, also, does not have to collect taxes themselves. Congress can and did create an agency to do the actual work.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Lets go back to a tax on tea. Nothing but tea.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Laddyboy

Well … it was not actually illegal, but the BATFE was not created by an act of Congress, that is true. It is equally true that abolishing the BATFE does not require an act of Congress, either!
The BATFE was created by a memo, and can be destroyed by a memo.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

What is not actually illegal? Violating the previsions against SLAVERY isn’t illegal? Forcing someone to give up the fruit of their labor isn’t illegal? Have you ever looked up the DEFINITION to the word SLAVERY?? Cripes, no wonder were SCREWED. No one UNDERSTANDS the problem. SO how the hell are they going to understand the CURE?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

You ask, “What is not actually illegal?” Well, that Congress created the IRS by statute is not illegal. Congress has that power. Congress, by its Constitutional authority to lay and collect taxes, may be forcing someone to give up the fruit of their labor, but that is not illegal or unconstitutional. It is very constitutional. Yes, I have looked it up. Slavery is the condition of being a slave. A slave is one who is under the total ownership of another. Please see page 1245, Blacks Law Dictionary, 5 ed. Not to be confused with taxation. If you can not… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Can we agree that, with the ending of WWI, the EXTENT of taxation had become unconstitutional?

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  Laddyboy

ABSOLUTELY! And CONgress has morphed into nothing but a rubber stamp for the elite.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Laddyboy

To be a taxing authority.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  Jaque

Brought to us, laughingly, by FDR, and a democrat congress. Maintained by every president, Congress, and S.Ct. since. Even well thought out governmental systems can be negated by corrupt politicians.

Last edited 1 month ago by Wild Bill
Cam
Cam (@cam)
1 month ago

They should have to put their money where their mouths is. Ok you say it’s going to save Americans money, how much? Ok, cut your budget that much and don’t ask for any more.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion (@wizardkiller)
1 month ago
Reply to  Cam

The only way it will save American’s money is in the way of inflation. Not having it to spend in the first place.

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Wild Bill
Wild Bill (@wild-bill)
1 month ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

Just buy gold and silver.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner (@freecompanier)
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Its cheaper to cast lead.