Lieutenant Colonel Allen West (USA, Ret) Answers the Call to Serve NRA Members

 

Lieutenant Colonel Allen West Official Headshot
Lieutenant Colonel Allen West Official Headshot

Houston, TX. — -(Ammoland.com)- Lieutenant Colonel Allen West has answered the call from the group of current and former NRA Directors as well as a number of concerned life members led by current Board member Judge Phillip Journey, former Board members Rocky Marshall and Bill Dailey and Board candidate Frank Tait to stand for election as Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association at the NRA Board meeting on Monday, May 30, 2002.



Col. West said, “In the military, we have a saying, it is that Warriors move to the sound of the guns. It is with sincere humility that I have consented to my nomination to be Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association. History has taught us that when the people are disarmed, they are subjugated, enslaved to tyranny and totalitarianism. The Nation’s oldest civil rights institution is the National Rifle Association.”

“I would be honored to secure that legacy going forward for future generations of legal, law-abiding American citizens and gun owners. My goals are to restore the honor, integrity, and character of this venerable organization along with refocusing on our core competencies, shooting sports/marksmanship, and defense of our Second Amendment constitutional right.”

Many in the second amendment community reached out to encourage Col. West to accept the call including former NRA Board members Richard Carone and Joseph Olson, former NRA Assistant General Counsel Thomas M. Moncure, Jr., and leaders from the industry including the President of Luth-AR & Founder of D.P.M.S/Panther Arms Randy Luth.

Former NRA Director Rocky Marshall commented “The management of the NRA will be replaced at the annual meeting in Houston or by the New York courts in the upcoming trial. Colonel Allen West is a man of integrity, honesty, and humility and will lead the NRA with the leadership skills that all NRA members will be proud to support.”


Read Related: NRA: Allen West’s Run For Wayne’s’ Job Will Not Prevail In Houston


About Col West

Lieutenant Colonel (US Army, Ret) Allen West is the Executive Director of the American Constitutional Conservative Rights Union and the ACRU Action Fund. He is a constitutional conservative, combat veteran, and former member of the US Congress. During his 22-year career in the U.S. Army, Lt. Col. West served in several combat zones and received many honors, including a Bronze Star, three Meritorious Service Medals, three Army Commendation Medals, one with valor device, and a Valorous Unit Award. In 1993, he was named the US Army ROTC Instructor of the Year. He is also a former commissioned officer in the Texas State Guard. West was elected to the United States Congress representing Florida’s 22d District. As a member of the 112th Congress, West sat on the Small Business and Armed Services Committees.

In July of 2020, Col. West was elected Chairman of the Republican Party of Texas by an overwhelming majority of State delegates. He is a legacy life member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, a life member of the American Legion, a life member of the Association of the United States Army, the Society of the First Infantry Division, the 4th Infantry Division, and the 101st Airborne Division. He is a Patriot Life Member (Benefactor) of the National Rifle Association, and former Board Member and Life Member (Benefactor) of the Texas Rifle Association. West is an inductee into the University of Tennessee Army ROTC Hall of Fame.

Lt. Col. West is the author of three books” Guardian of the Republic: An American Ronin’s Journey to Family, Faith, and Freedom; Hold Texas, Hold the Nation: Victory or Death; and We Can Overcome: An American Black Conservative Manifesto.

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NHshtr

WLP has done a lot for the NRA in his earlier terms. But no one has a job for life and doesn’t burn out or become embedded and maybe feels entitled. I say thank him for his service, honor him with a plaque and move on to a refreshed and re-invigorated phase of the NRA. According to the news reports (I know, they lie a lot) but there have been some 8 million new gun owners in the past few years. But the NRA still boasts about its “5 million members”. Where is the growth in the NRA? That alone… Read more »

Link

Not a no but a hell no.
West was a one term nothing in Florida and could not get reelected and did nothing.
Once he realized that he went to TX and wanted to run against Greg Abbott who is doing very well, that only divides the ticket weakening the chances of Republicans winning.

He also was hired for a business and killed it and ran the Republican fund raising committee into the ground.

Yes, Wayne and his cronies need to go but west is NOT the replacement we need.

MICHAELANGELO

We need to be careful about bashing the NRA on this blog. From what I am seeing, the NRA members are doing more harm than all of the anti-gunners combined!!!

TexDad

Ah yes, insisting the reformers are the problem and shaming them for speaking out against established power. Not exactly a new tactic.

MICHAELANGELO

Think about this for a moment. Nobody is complaining about the job WLP is doing. All the problem is with his spending. The NRA is hanging on by a thread!! The members are slaughtering each other. Its the perfect time to strike. If I were the Attorney General for New York, I would file everything I could against the NRA because of the membership beating down the board and each other. Money is the issue right now with NRA members. I would attack with every arsenal that I can get my hands on. By the time I got through hammering… Read more »

TexDad

We want reform, and the worst offenders to be removed. Not sure how “members are slaughtering each other”.

I don’t know what else to say, other than that I don’t buy any of that.

MICHAELANGELO

Read the posts

TexDad

Ahhh, the humanity!!!

I couldn’t resist sarcasm any longer. But for real, this is some wrongheaded nonsense.

Grigori

Read the posts? You say no one is complaining about the job WLP is doing? People are not only upset with the looting he has engaged in, they are upset with his continuation of longstanding policy of Negotiating Rights Away. Are you serious?

MICHAELANGELO

Name One? I can still buy any gun that I want. What Rights have we lost??

Russn8r

Ok.

Grigori

You can buy any gun you want? Okay, how about a current production, select fire M16, Glock 18, or similar?

JSNMGC

“What Rights have we lost??” ~ MICHAELANGELO Many people have lost the right to not have their door kicked-in at 3:00 am by armed government employees, have guns pointed at them, have obscenities and conflicting “commands” screamed at them, and have their property seized. These people are required to pay for their own lawyer to prove they are innocent of a crime that has not occurred. After doing so, the court will order the government employess to return the wrongly seized property. The government employees will not return the property. The victim will have to pay the lawyer again to… Read more »

Link

Try buying any gun you want in CA, NY, NJ, CT.
You can’t and you know it.
Just stop, everyone knows your a dumb troll

MICHAELANGELO

Name a Right we have lost. So once A. West gets in, the NRA will WIN every battle?? ARE YOU SERIOUS??

Grigori

How about bumpstocks?

MICHAELANGELO

Get rid of one cancer cell but leave the other!! Makes a whole lot of sense doesn’t it!!

TexDad

I’m not sure how that’s an argument against getting rid of the first cancer cell. You’re saying more needs to be done as an argument against taking the first step.

MICHAELANGELO

Get rid of the big rat and leave all of the smaller ones. What a Strategy!!!!

TexDad

You just said what you said before in different words.

Let me do the same.

You’re using that as an argument against getting rid of the big rat at all AND THAT ARGUMENT MAKES NO SENSE.

MICHAELANGELO

So it makes great sense that once the big rat is gone, the problem is gone??

TexDad

No one is saying that. We’re starting with the man who poisoned the well when he decided he could be king of the NRA for over thirty years. I think that’s one hell of a place to start.

The board, who Wayne has packed full of cronies and purified by running off reformers who wouldn’t play ball, also needs work.

Hopefully that work can more easily be done in the absence of that toxic grifter Wayne LaPierre.

Russn8r

!!!!

LOL

No one besides you advocates leaving any of the rats.

(!!!!)

MICHAELANGELO

Don’t count on it. Go take your VIAGRA!!!

Russn8r

!!!
LOL
Don’t count on what? (???) (!!!)

MICHAELANGELO

You are Dumber than a joe biden!!

Russn8r

You just replied to yourself, so I agree. (!!)

LOL (!!)

MICHAELANGELO

Don’t think so Jezebel!!!

Russn8r

What does that even mean? (??? !!!) LOL

MICHAELANGELO to MICHAELANGELO:
“You are Dumber than a joe biden!!”

LOL (!!)

MICHAELANGELO

You got a lot of Delusionals like you that think just like him!!!

MICHAELANGELO

Delusional

Russn8r

The picture says it all. Nice try.

MICHAELANGELO

Go back and read the thread DUMMY!! Most on this thread are saying that getting rid of WLP will get rid of the proble. I said “Get rid of the Big rat but leave the small ones”!! That was to be taken as a question you idiot!! I was not advocating for the small rats to be left behind you CS!!!

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Russn8r

Is Wayne paying you by the exclamation point? (?? !!!)

MICHAELANGELO

Nope. Paying you on all 4’s

Russn8r

Wassup Pepe? Run out of exclamation points?? !! ??

LOL

Russn8r

“Nobody’s complaining about the job WLP’s doing”? LOL (!!!)

NRA’s hanging on by a thread!!”

Because guys like you protect the grifters. (!!)

If I were NYAG, I’d file everything I could against NRA.”

Where you been? She already is, and guys like you made it possible, protecting the grifters who looted NRA & bared its neck to her. (!!!)

MICHAELANGELO

Have you lost your gun rights you MORON??!!

Russn8r

??!!

LOL

Grigori

Not all of them. Not yet, anyway. We have lost A LOT of what we had, thanks to the NRA negotiating our rights away, going back at least to NFA 1934.

MICHAELANGELO

Come on!! Are you kidding?? Tell me what Rights A.West could have kept that we have lost under WLP??

Grigori

Your argument is a reduction to absurdity. We will never know because Mr West was not around for many of the losses, and was not available for the ones in his lifetime as an adult.

MICHAELANGELO

NOBODY wins every Battle. Life is full of negotiations. That will never cease. I can still buy any firearm that I desire. Nobody has taken away that right. WLP is not a Miracle Worker. If A.West gets in, neither will he. This is a slippery slope at best.

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TexDad

So if I desire the new SIG light machinegun, the one from the NGSW trials, can I buy that, or did Wayne LaPierre make a deal to trade machineguns off for FOPA?

Edit: I believe he was head of ILA at the time, but I could be wrong. It should go without saying though, we members do not want this kind of behavior from our NRA.

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MICHAELANGELO

Russn8r seems to think there have been many victories by other groups that the NRA has taken credit for. But you feel we have lost rights. I am a little confused.

Russn8r

Don’t sell yourself short. You’re a lot confused. (!!!)

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MICHAELANGELO

Sell myself short? What are you talking about?

Russn8r

LOL

MICHAELANGELO

Are you going to Name the Groups DUMMY?? I ain’t got all day!!

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MICHAELANGELO

You are DUMBER than I thought you were!! Do you think the AG of NY is finished with her attack on the NRA? Do you think the Biden administration is finished? HELL, let’s just vote A. West in and ALL of the problems just go away!!

Russn8r

Weak. Who said she finished her attack? Can’t you argue without help from strawmen & childish ad hominem?

Grifters are pocketing & wasting the money. Bouncing them ends the hemorrhage & restores the donations.

MICHAELANGELO

You sorry, no good, half a WOMAN and all Turd Brains!! You were the one who put it like the AG of NY had filed everything she could. Did you mean that you believe there is nothing left to file so the case with NY and legal fees are over? That’s Ridiculous!!

Russn8r

Nice try. (!!) I said “is”, not “had”. (!!) She’s filing everything she can, and YOU made it possible. (!!) Clearly. (!!) Dissolution got smacked down, so now she’s going after your grifter hero LaPew & his grifter pals personally for restitution etc. (!!)

MICHAELANGELO

You are so DUMB that if you were driving down the street and the song End of The Road came on the radio, your DUMB Ass would stop and Get out!!!

TexDad

I suppose that was a “No” as to refraining from the ad hominem.

It’s pretty funny to watch someone nosedive this hard, but only when they earn it.

Russn8r

It’s amusing, and if he’s the best troll they can afford to field, maybe things aren’t so bleak after all.

MICHAELANGELO

I’m still here. Name the Groups so I can sign off!!

MICHAELANGELO

Still waiting on those Groups!!

Russn8r

Who do you think did Emerson? NRA? LOL.

MICHAELANGELO

Dummy!!

MICHAELANGELO

Still waiting on those Groups.

MICHAELANGELO

You need to get to the nearest hospital QUICK!!

MICHAELANGELO

So you agree that there are going to be additional costs associated with the case in NY?

Russn8r

Non sequitur. I agree that all of this is on guys like you who covered for the grifters and thereby enabled The Big Grift. I agree that legal costs will go away and donations will resume if we bounce the grifters, beginning with your grifter hero LaPew.

MICHAELANGELO

Waiting for you to Name the groups that the NRA has taken credit for their victories. I don’t think you have idea what you are talking about!!

TexDad

Here’s a closely related example. Not the first I’ve heard of this exact thing taking place, but I knew InRange discussed this recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQjS63YWOm4&t=1286s

Russn8r

Emerson, and permitless carry victories achieved in spite of NRA sabotage. NRA-Hammer is why Florida doesn’t have permitless carry.

MICHAELANGELO

Step away from the porn and name the Groups!!!

MICHAELANGELO

Name the Groups please….

MICHAELANGELO

Go to the bathroom and change. You’ve had an accident.

Ope

Nobody could actually be as ignorant as you are with your never ending BS.

MICHAELANGELO

Back at you. The ignorance is with you who thinks that one man can take down the NRA and one man can SAVE it!!! I got plenty more for you. Go ahead and change leadership and start giving more money. Don’t be surprised if that money flies out as quick as it flies in!! Why don’t you wake up and smell what you are shoveling??

Russn8r

!!!
!!
??
LOL

MICHAELANGELO

Waiting on you to Name the Groups!!

Jeff Knox

And just what is your solution? First, let me state that we have had serious problems with Wayne LaPierre’s political strategy for decades. No one has ever suggested that replacing Wayne will solve the problems. It’s just a critically important First Step. If everyone knows that the pastor of your church is skimming from the collection plate — on top of an exorbitant salary — and sleeping with the choir director, and the Elders are turning a blind eye, resulting in lower attendance, lower donations, and loss of influence in the community, what is the First Step to restoring your… Read more »

Grigori

Izat you, Wayne?

MICHAELANGELO

Nope. Never met him. Do I need to put up my picture?

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Russn8r

Go for it.

MICHAELANGELO

Yours first

Grigori

Chickenshit! That wasn’t part of your offer.

Russn8r

Crickets chirping. Let’s see the pic.

Grigori

Yeah, why not?

MICHAELANGELO

WLP is a different color!!!

Russn8r

(!!!) LOL

john

Has WLP even hinted that he will step down has there been a riff in the cosmos that this is about to happen. Leadership is chosen for what they can bring to the table not for being the most likeable person at the table. It is a big country lots of good Americans could fill the job , it will not be decided here by us that is for sure.
Those that have been fighting against the NRA will continue that you can bank on.

MICHAELANGELO

We need to remember that the board ADORES WLP!! If WLP is removed, it will be because of the heat from members. The board could have ousted him years ago. Why didn’t they?

john

Wayne LaPierre’s Salary and Earnings Born in 1949, in New York, Wayne LaPierre’s current net worth is estimated at $10.0 million. He reportedly receives a salary averaging $972,000. In 2010, the NRA paid LaPierre more than $900,000 as salary. It was estimated that he received a hefty compensation of $985,885 in 2014 from the NRA’s total contributions, which was estimated at a whopping $103.0 million. As part of similar contributions, LaPierre went home $3.7 million richer in 2015, after receiving his “employee funded deferred compensation plan” cut. It was also estimated that between 2014 and 2015, LaPierre received a staggering $4.0 million in compensation… Read more »

MICHAELANGELO

Do you all really think that all the problems go away and the Biden administration and the Attorney General of NY are simply going to back off “IF” the NRA changes leadership with A west???

TexDad

Nope, but cutting loose the dude most culpable for the association’s woes would be a nice start.

MICHAELANGELO

We in Big Trouble!!!

MICHAELANGELO

That may be true. But please remember that the board KNEW what WLP was doing. In fact, they may have had their hand in the money pot as well.

TexDad

So how does that translate to how we must save Wayne? I’m at a loss for where you’re coming from on this.

MICHAELANGELO

Everybody thinks that getting rid of WLP will magically solve the problem. It may create a bigger problem. WLP may have a spending problem. But he knows how to do his job better than anyone I have ever seen. You may be surprised that the board may have a spending problem as well. We need to proceed with caution. A lot of members ADORE WLP including the board. If this backfires, it’s all over!!

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TexDad

I actually don’t think anyone thinks either of those things. I’m certain though that nothing at all will get better until we get started.

Russn8r

It’s all over (!!) if we DON’T bounce corrupt LaPew AND the corrupt rubber-stamp board. (!!)

Doing nothing creates bigger problems. (!!) For years increasing numbers of members have become hip to the corruption, donations drying up, plummeting amount coming in goes to keep LaPewCo out of jail.

Your M.O.: Do zip, pump up LaPew as the best thing since sliced bread, even attack his rubber-stamp board that keeps him in suits & $millions. Anything to save corrupt LaPew. THAT is in the process of ending the NRA. Your M.O. ain’t working. Not here. No one buys it.

!!

john

As of 2022, Wayne LaPierre’s net worth is estimated to be roughly $20 million. 
 Lapierre used NRA funds to take his family around the country on private jets. 

LaPierre likes to dress fancy, and he has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on wardrobe expenses, including spending $39,000 in one day alone shopping. 

LaPierre earns an annual salary of $985,000. Between 2014 and 2015, he earned $5,110,985 from the NRA, thanks largely to a $3.7 million retirement plan distribution.

Wayne must take the train Hit the bricks cop walk
Thank you
Money Money Money Money

MICHAELANGELO

Who approved all of those Luxuries? Make WLP the fall guy and the board just simply walks away unscathed. If issues with the bankruptcy in New York had never been a problem, we would not even be discussing this matter. I don’t care what his salary is nor how much he spends on his family or fancy trips. If we lose the 2nd Amendment, it is a fundamental right that we will not get back. Just fight for and preserve my 2nd Amendment rights. To me, that is priceless!!

Russn8r

More strawman diversion. Board approval of LaPew’s grift doesn’t make him an innocent “fall guy”. No one here thinks the board should walk away unscathed for enabling The Big Grift.

Honest 2A supporters do care how much he “earns”, grifts, squanders, spends & gives to gun grabbers because it would otherwise be available to preserve the 2A rights you claim are priceless to you.

MICHAELANGELO

Let me tell you what diversion is. You stated that the NRA was taking credit for victories from other groups. I asked you to Name One of the groups. You have yet to name one. Put your money where your mouth. Name One group unless you are full of diversion!!

Russn8r

!!

MICHAELANGELO

You are so DUMB that if you were driving down the street and the song End of The Road came on the radio, your DUMB Ass would stop and Get out!!!

Russn8r

annual salary $985k”.

LaPew’s all-in package is ~$1.7-$3 million/yr. Every few yrs he takes a big chunk of deferred comp. Then there’s the “expense account”.

MICHAELANGELO

So what are you trying to say RETARD??

PMinFl

I have a high opinion of Col West, I hope he doesn’t get left holding the bag.

MICHAELANGELO

Getting rid of WLP may cause more harm than good!!

Ope

Anything’s possible but that’s not.

Cruiser

LTC West gets my vote, He is a “Right Thinker” and deeply believes in the 2nd Amendment. Honesty is hard to find in most BODs who are usually self-serving grifters.

MICHAELANGELO

If that is the case, we need to CLEAN HOUSE!!! All of them needs to go. WLP is being made the Fall Guy.

MICHAELANGELO

WLP gets mines!!

Black Powder 26

A great many great valid points and opinions state in this thread. The bottom line is that unless we, as members, unify and not only demand WLP be gone, but also come to a consensus about a replacement, nothing will change, and the NRA will continue to slide down the toilet! I have no idea how good or bad West would be as head of the NRA and I am not suggesting an anyone, but WLP is a good model to follow. But perhaps what is needed is to get rid of Wayne, place an interim person in charge and… Read more »

swmft

a place holder is better than a corrupt divisive known, and ltc west may surprise people by getting things rolling , people belittle him for his time in florida politics ,but black conservative in central, snowbird country ,he was a fish out of water

MICHAELANGELO

So all the problems just fly away if WLP leaves??

Black Powder 26

Nobody is suggesting that all problems would suddenly go away. The issues with the NRA are systemic, deep rooted and will take a long time to be resolved. I look at this from the perspective as an NRA instructor, RSO and discipline coach. The NRA has “some” excellent programs, and it would be a shame to see these disappear. I do not believe that WLP will change his ways, I do not believe the tainted perception that the NRA has now created will suddenly disappear, but unless there is change from the top down nothing good will come of the… Read more »

BillyBobTexas

Ok, I cannot attend Houston, but am Patron Member for last 53 yrs. How do I get to vote for Col West?

TexDad

Unfortunately, only the directors get to vote for the EVP. They’d have to actually care more about what the members want than whatever benefits they get from being WLP cronies.

Russn8r

That’s the confusing part. 95% of the board is in on the grift or rubber stamping it out of stupidity, cowardice etc. If they vote WLP out & West in, I’d still be suspicious & skeptical. No way I donate again just because WLP’s gone. In this I agree with JSNMCG: I’d want to see full audit & disclosure, resignation of ALL corrupt & rubber-stamp directors including anyone who ever voted for WLP, a clear commitment to no more phony A grades, etc.

AP

“…Monday, May 30, 2002.” Huh? Seems we’re a little late!

swmft

that was the first or second time they tried to get rid of pue think of the money it would have saved , may have funded national ccw

JSNMGC

He is a continuation of the problem: musicians, movie stars, ex-military, ex-law enforcement, small businesspeople, some random woman who shot squirrels, writers, etc., etc.

The NRA is bad because the people on the board did not have the right experience. They had no idea what they were doing (except for some of them who were corrupt – they knew how to milk).

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swmft

do you want lawyers? NO it needs to be people that believe in our rights and will fight tooth and nail for them

JSNMGC

There is a business and there is lobbying. Both parts of the NRA need significant improvement. I want professionals on the board and on the management team. Professionals who understand how to run a large, complex business. Of course the EVP, the lobbyists, and the board members should be pro firearm rights. One of the disappointing things about West is that he didn’t even indicate what his view is (other than we shouldn’t be disarmed). I don’t want a lawyer for the EVP, I want an experienced businessperson (large business) who is pro firearm rights. Lawyers should provide counsel. We… Read more »

Wild Bill

There are only two professions in the United States. Business man is not one of them. I want a Gun Guy!

Russn8r

That article is a typical smear arranged by NRA grifters. Figures it’s Erick Erickson, prissy NeverTrump ‘conservative’ who banned Trump from a debate for joking about ‘grabbing Ps’ (THE HORROR . . . THE HORROR) in ‘private conversation secretly recorded by a corrupt globalist Bush crime family member, and for alleged innuendo regarding NeverTrump Megan Kelly (THE HORROR . . . THE HORROR).

$100 says NRA buys Erickson somehow, probably by advertising on Red State. PAYOLA

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Russn8r

Another smear arranged by NRA grifters. Figures it’s Erick Erickson, prissy NeverTrump ‘conservative’ who banned Trump from a debate for joking about ‘grabbing Ps’ (THE HORROR . . . THE HORROR) in ‘private conversation secretly recorded by a corrupt globalist Bush crime family member, and for alleged innuendo regarding NeverTrump Megan Kelly (THE HORROR . . . THE HORROR).

$100 says NRA buys Erickson somehow, probably by advertising on Red State. PAYOLA

Russn8r

Redundant post due to moderation algorithm.

MICHAELANGELO

Do you all really think that the Biden administration and the Attorney General of NY are simply going to back off “IF” the NRA changes leadership with A west???

Jeff Knox

No.

nrringlee

Correct. WE are in an existential cultural war, Marxists against freedom loving citizens. The Marxists will not go away until we are dead and buried. But we need effective leadership. That is the point.

Russn8r

???
!!!
???

MICHAELANGELO

Eat it!!!

Wild Bill

Easy brother. This one just lives to aggravate other readers, here. Participating in good conversation may be important to you, but raising your blood pressure is just entertainment for him.

Russn8r

More projection.
I see you’re “On paTROLL again.”

MICHAELANGELO

Like my mama always said, “SEE A FOOL LEAVE A FOOL’!! Russn8r is a BIG DUMMY, A BIG IDIOT, TOTAL JERK, full time Fool, and Total Butthole!!

Russn8r

Vile, childish name-calling. Your new hypocrite buddy WB will ignore it though.

MICHAELANGELO

You started the name calling you sick piece of CRAP!! Go back and take a look at earlier blogs. You ought to know the meaning of the word HYPOCRITE!!

Russn8r

BS. Oops, I forgot:
!!
!!

MICHAELANGELO

You are correct Wild Bill. Like my mama always said, “SEE A FOOL LEAVE A FOOL’!! Russn8r is a BIG DUMMY, A BIG IDIOT, TOTAL JERK, full time Fool, and Total Butthole!!

MICHAELANGELO

West in, current members out!!

Russn8r

!!!
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!!!

MICHAELANGELO

I see you are at it again!!

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Russn8r

Hmm. TEX-BLUE-Bruce-Ford-WILL-Jesse, now MICHAELANGELO?

Same M.O. My guess, you’ll be Whack-A-Trolled soon, if not already.

JSNMGC

I don’t think so. Will/Tex/Jesse/.308Snipings/et al. is not a Wayne fan.

He is still posting and voting though.

Russn8r

Forgot 308. I’m sure he’s posting & downvoting. Still think it might be the same thug. One reason for sock puppetry is taking different positions.

JSNMGC

Will/Tex/Jesse/.308snipings also used “MPL12550” and “Bruce.” He’s posting using another account now.  I’m not sure how many accounts he votes from.

I really don’t think the MICHAELANGELO account belongs to the same person.

Russn8r

So, TEX-BLUE-Bruce-Ford-WILL-Jesse-MPL12550- .308snipings. What’s the new one?

JSNMGC

[Patience]

Russn8r

True.

TexDad

More like droves of members finally re-up and start donating again.

Wild Bill

Yes, when WLP is gone, then I will donate again.

nrringlee

Yes. The common response I get from my Arms Collectors group, a substantial collection of substantial collectors is this: not one dime until the current cabal is gone. These folks raise and donate a lot of money every year to the cause. As their president I have to make the case to continue to support NRA and the other 2A groups but it is a tough sell. The best they will do is support the Foundation and that is getting difficult. Recruiting? Forget about it. We work multiple gun shows here in the Southwest and recruit for both NRA and… Read more »

JSNMGC

I won’t start donating again until I see a full report on what happened (no one knows yet – a significant internal audit and review needs to be performed), the bios of the new management team, a corrective action plan, a policy on transparency of legal and marketing expenditures, a policy on all expenditures to (or for the benefit of) employees & board members, an approved travel policy, a smaller board, and other corporate governance improvements.

I’m not going to feed another disaster.

MICHAELANGELO

That may not happen. Remember, you have more members still supporting the NRA than those who are not. If their support goes with WLP, the NRA is on its way out.

TexDad

Why would their support go with Wayne though?

I’m of the opinion that those members support NRA despite Wayne. I certainly haven’t seen anything that would suggest there are a significant number of average Janes and Joes that support NRA because of the one crooked rich guy at the top.

ahhiyawa

That’s precisely the problem. The membership have been “out” for at least 2 decades since the professional Lapierre and fellow experts have taken over.

MICHAELANGELO

I agree. But we must remember that this is the worst time to be hammering the NRA. We are in the fight of our life right now. And the NRA is at its most vulnerable because of the implosion from within.

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ahhiyawa

No doubt about it, we are in an existential fight.

MICHAELANGELO

If you get rid of WLP, it will be a Big Mistake!!!

Russn8r

OMG NOOOOOOO!!!! Not a BIG MISTAKE!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!

ahhiyawa

Got my vote.

Russn8r

Me too.

MICHAELANGELO

I am going to have someone come over and teach you how to pee

Bob K

West is a mouthpiece, nothing more. Him being a member of all those prestigious groups is exactly that, a member. Never a standout, always looking for the next big opportunity while leaving others.

Jeff Knox

So let’s keep paying Wayne $1.6 million a year, and his lawyer pal $2.5 million per month, until there’s just nothing left.

JSNMGC

Why are those the two choices?

Can you provide a link to a summary showing how the money Journey collected to “save the NRA” was used?

Was any of it used for an executive search firm or did it all go to lawyers?

What was the plan you and Journey had prior to March 1 (when West became available)?

MICHAELANGELO

The fees will probably be much higher if WLP is gone and the members start giving MORE. If I was the attorney, the more members give, the higher my monthly fee.

JSNMGC

Nothing is going to change. The reason we had musicians, movie stars, ex-military, ex-law enforcement, small businesspeople, some random woman who shot squirrels, writers, etc., etc. on the board is because too many NRA members want those kinds of people. There are members who want Ted Nugent for EVP. They have learned nothing from the problems of the NRA. Not only does West not have relevant experience to run the business, he didn’t even indicate his views on the lobbying part of the job other than indicating we shouldn’t be “disarmed.” How much further infringement, short of disarmament, does he… Read more »

john

This works for me and a great place to start and lets not bring up Marion  Hammer be kind and explore. Remember there are a lot of professional women that would do better in Washington then some men. GRAND JUNCTION, CO (AGirlandAGun.org) — One of the most popular training topics at the 9th Annual A Girl & A Gun National Conference Presented by GLOCK was precision rifle. More than 40 women were able to participate in the training, which was led by Russell Anthon and Hank Ownbey of Defenders USA. Participants enjoyed Ruger precision rifles with Vortex optics and Hornady ammunition.… Read more »

Russn8r

Let’s DO bring up Hammer, one of NRA’s lead corruption enablers & the main force sabotaging Constitutional Carry in Florida. Hands out phony A grades & endorsements to gun grabbers like RINO Wilton Simpson, author of Florida’s red flag law that was signed by RINO Rick Scott.

john

One bad banana does not spoil the whole bunch there are alot of good women in the shooting sports with no political ties.

Russn8r

Irrelevant. Who said it did? And she’s one of the head bananas, ruining it for the rest of them, stealing OUR money.

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MICHAELANGELO

John, if that were the case that one bad banana (WLP) does not spoil the whole bunch (NRA), we need to keep WLP.

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TexDad

He’s got to go. If the board would listen to the members he’d have been gone years ago.

Wild Bill

Unfortunately, WLP has made the NRA into the golden goose for the board and himself, and he has made the rules so that he can not be gotten rid of.

john

In 2021 & 20222 women were the largest group to invest in the shooting sports looking for a self defence weapon or just shooting in general. Maybe it is time for women to represent the NRA and shooters across America. Caitlin Connor earned three gold medals at the infamous Lonato World Cup, April 19-30, in Women’s skeet, Women’s Skeet Team, and Mixed Skeet Team, a first for USA Shooting. Jessie Harrison Wins First Steel Master Title https://www.nrawomen.com/ WOMEN’S INTERESTS With the number of women shooters on the rise, the NRA is dedicated to providing programs and resources to female gun… Read more »

Russn8r

~”NRA: dedicated to programs-resources for female gunners”

Not really: NRA leaders’ corrupt idiocy wrecked finances = little $ for programs.

Also little money left for elections, a major contributing factor to The Big Steal & “Justice” Ketanji for life.

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AZ Lefty

Yay, like West will be any different!
Need to replace most of the Board and then restructure so the Executive Officers only run day to day and has no hand in the board or the lection of board members and the Board has control.

Looking at those outside the NRA to run it is also a thing to be explored

Wild Bill

What makes you think that LTC West will not be any different? I think that you are just guessing.

john

What strikes me most about this subject is so far we only have one person to discuss. Col West. Again how about let’s shake the tree and see who falls out. Maybe maybe a women would turn the tide for members.

Wild Bill

Yeah, maybe.

TexDad

Little late for that. The meetings are in two weeks.

Russn8r

Stop trying to “aggravate” people you disagree with, Generalíssimo! LOL.

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Hazcat

West just flits from grift to grift. Runs from fight in FL politics, brakes TX RNC and leaves in less than a year, loses run for TX Gov, now wants the NRA job. I’ll pass. WLP MUST go but West is not my choice to replace him.

ahhiyawa

Here’s another one who doesn’t trust everyday gun-owners in the NRA to lead and run it.

john

Sorry still not the correct fit for the NRA promote from within the membership there are good businessman that can be a better asset in the NRA than Col West

Jeff Knox

Name one. And it has to be someone who will accept the nomination and pledge to work for reform of the Association to the members benefit.
If you have a better candidate, dive right in. The most important thing is LaPierre out. West will have all the experienced help and support he needs.

Ope

It has to go deeper than just Lapierre. Next Lapierres corrupt and complicit BOD. Tom King goes first.

Russn8r

That’s most important, but if the corrupt complicit self-dealing rubber-stamp clown board doesn’t go (~95% of the board), ultimately what will change? I suppose once Col West has the bully pulpit, he can help bounce the clowns – and cut the board to a sane size.

Ope

Poor thieving trash Lapierre never got his $7.5 mil.mansion. It would had been NRA BOD approved and funded by NRA members.

MICHAELANGELO

Really??

MICHAELANGELO

$7.5mil??

Jeff Knox

In fairness, the sellers had reduced the price down to $6 million. LaPierre said it wasn’t true, then documents surfaced. LaPierre said he wasn’t involved, then emails from his wife showed up, with her picking curtains and wanting to expand the closets. LaPierre then said that, yeah, they were looking at it to be a “safe house,” but no NRA funds were spent on the deal, then a check for $50k, or was it $70k, turned up, that NRA had paid on the deal on LaPierre’s orders… Yeah Mikey, really.

AZ Lefty

Ronnie Barrett!
Problem is that the Successful Businessmen on the Board do not have hte time to take on the V.P. Position unlike West who is doing it for the perks

Wild Bill

Why would you write that LTC West is just “doing it for the perks”?

john

I do not have list of members at my disposal agreed I am sure that a membership list exist that tells more than we all know. If you have read my other comments on this subject & Col West your would know that I respect his service to our country and have nothing against the man himself. Washington and the democratic elected politicians do not play nice with military personal who do not comply to their wishes in the private sector. He would be dragged through the mud his career history put in jeopardy due to fabracited information that would… Read more »

Link

Name one ??
I name you, on your worst day you can wipe your backside and still pull up a better job the wlp.

Russn8r

Stop. You know Col West is a member. The perfect is the enemy of the awesome. Go West!

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john

I am aware he is a member he does not get my vote. Which does not matter I can disagree with my convictions sir. Free Will Free Choice Lets see who else turns up in the future. The authors of these articles are all of different facts on the same story.
Thank you

Wild Bill

He is just trying to aggravate you. We respect your opinion even if it differs from our own.

john

He does not aggravate me at all Bill I only wish that his temperament fit his knowledge and a softer approach would serve well.

Always leave you adversary a way to walk away while keeping his or her dignity.

Russn8r

More projection by the Generalíssimo of Ammoland.

“On PaTROLL again!”

Russn8r

Then why keep repeating “promote from the membership” as if Col West is not a member? Soft enough question for you?

Frank Tait

Note FYI regardless of personal position regarding the upcoming EVP election. Statement of former NRA Secretary Jim Land, Major – USMS (Ret), issued May 9, 2022: “This is Edward James Land, Jr. I’m the former Secretary of the National Rifle Association of America. It has come to my attention that some current and former NRA board members are using my name to promote Allen West for Executive Vice President for the National Rifle Association of America. That is false and done without my authorization. Furthermore, I fully support my friend Wayne LaPierre who’s dedicated his life to the NRA and… Read more »

Wild Bill

I had not heard. Good report. Glad to see you back!

Jeff Knox

As I understand it, someone was talking to the wrong “Jim Land.” An honest mistake, just a little too quick on the trigger.

Frank Tait

We have learned recently Buford James (Jim) Land Ret. Army Ranger & NRA Endowment member who enthusiastically supports Allen West to replace Wayne LaPierre for EVP of the NRA is not Edward James (Jim) Land Jr. who was a former NRA General Counsel. We apologize and regret any confusion this may have caused.

Also, we encourage Edward James (Jim) Land Jr. to please reconsider his support if he would like to join other former NRA Directors in saving the NRA from the self-dealing management practices of Wayne LaPierre and the upcoming legal consequences.

Terry

Frank;
It doesn’t matter one iota who supports Wayne. He is radioactive – he is poison. You guys need to get this thru your thick skulls. The majority of NRA members would not support Wayne if a burning bush on Mount Sanai told them to. Guilty or no he’s gotta go.

TL Davis
Benefactor Life Member

swmft

I think a lot of these people support pue because they dont want to believe he is a crook because that makes them fools

Terry

It no longer matters. He is radioactive – he is poison. Whether you believe he’s a crook or not I’d say 95% of the NRA membership do. Wayne has 0% credibility. This can’t be fixed!

Ope

Lapierre is stage 4 cancer to the NRA.

Russn8r

A lot of people on the board support him BECAUSE he’s a crook. They’re in on the grift.

JSNMGC

I agree, a percentage of BOD members have benefited beyond what they should have from being on the NRA BOD and their support for Wayne is related to that benefit.  It’s likely that swmft is also correct – a certain percentage of the BOD are just naive and in way over their head. Just because a guy can shoot a rifle does not make him a good choice for an NRA BOD member. Some were on the board for decades and then ran for the hills when the dirt really started coming out and they realized that as board members… Read more »

Russn8r

At least one who ran for the hills was in on the self-dealing. Nugent.

JSNMGC

Yes. He was a terrible choice for a board member. He was interviewed after he ran away and said he wasn’t an accountant, so none of the problems were his fault.

Too many members had the view that:

  • “He’s a gun guy!”
  • “He says funny things!”
  • “He hates liberals!”

Those people have no clue about the responsibilities of a board member.

Russn8r

Nugent had no problem taking sweetheart cash for rubber stamping everything. e.g. Concerts few would’ve paid for.

Wild Bill

Well, said! As usual.

Terry

Thanks, WB;
I find it hard to comprehend that people can’t grasp this concept. If WLP gave a crap about anything other than covering his own rear end he would already have resigned. His malfeasance or lack thereof doesn’t make any difference. He is to the NRA what Kryptonite is to Superman. The coffers of the NRA are being bled dry to keep his sorry ass from having to answer for his performance!

JSNMGC
Frank Tait

Former Secretary

JSNMGC

One error in reporting after another.

Well, he could shoot.

Let’s make him Secretary!

Who is the Corporate Controller, a mortarman?

Who do they have for Financial Analysts, truck drivers?

The NRA is so screwed up, it would take a large team of people experienced in large business to replace the board members and the management team.

I suspect there are 10 problems that haven’t seen the light of day for every problem that has been reported.

Wild Bill

You need not slap him in the face.

JSNMGC

You need not attempt to reprimand me.

The people involved in this attempt to make changes are not at the level that is required.

If there was more frank discussion and debate 60 years ago among the members things might be different today.

swmft

there would be many more active life members

Wild Bill

That was no reprimand. A reprimand would be: ” There is no justification for your insulting other members here. Don’t let it happen again or you are gone.”

JSNMGC

You don’t care one bit about insults – you have proved that over and over again. You have insulted members here by your outrageous lies. You just like to attempt to impose your double standards on certain people.

Wild Bill

Untrue. You could try applying ordinary courtesy in your comments.

JSNMGC

You have lied repeatedly (in an outrageous manner) as a form of insult.

You have attempted to impose standards on certain people and you ignore infractions of those same standards by other people.

I assume your behavior is atypical for a retired LTC. If it isn’t, and West does similar things in a corporate environment, the NRA will be front page news.

My comment to Frank wasn’t an insult, it was an observation.

JSNMGC

Reply on hold.

Russn8r

More Projection. You could try the same thing.

ahhiyawa

I Would Rather Be Governed By the First 2,000 People in the Telephone Directory than by the Harvard University Faculty William F. Buckley Jr. Esquire” magazine, January 1961 The problem with the credentialed classes that’s so much admired by you and several others on this page, is that all too often the best and brightest despise and conspire against everyone else who they believe are too ignorant and unworthy to lead or serve. We could never do better than to pick all the Directors on the Board by lottery from among all the Life members of the NRA. Those who… Read more »

JSNMGC

Buckley was referring to politicians (“governed by”). He was a Yale graduate himself – he wasn’t against education.  The point he was making was that governance is largely a matter of viewpoint, for example looking at two of the many views on governance: Hardcore Socialism – politicians believing in this view could have high IQs and degrees in Poli-Sci and Law from Harvard, or they could be people who have below average IQs who dropped out of high school and are dependent on the government. Constitutional Republic with a largely free market based on capitalism – politicians believing in this view… Read more »

ahhiyawa

Ah yes…the obsessive technocrat! There is NOTHING “complex” about the structures, business activities or governing the affairs of the NRA. NONE of it is beyond the competencies of the majority of NRA members. I have no doubts NRA members would prove to be infinitely better administrators than “senior” goofs from “large, complex business,” with mystical powers of understanding “internal controls, corporate governance, reporting, and compliance.” As for Buckley I’ve read his books, papers and a one time subscriber to National Review. Also known as a father of the modern conservative movement, he promoted the stupidity of leaving all societal &… Read more »

JSNMGC

First you misused Buckley’s quote to support your opinion. Then, when it was pointed out that you misused the quote, you trash him. Wayne is a problem. Wayne is the EVP because the BOD a long time ago were largely a bunch of fudds who lacked knowledge and experience related to being board members at the NRA. They are no better now and a certain percentage of them are corrupt. We have bad BOD members because too many NRA members chose board members for the wrong reasons: “Nugent is awesome! He says funny things!” “Retired USMC Major Edward James ‘Jim’… Read more »

ahhiyawa

…Why do you presume people with the right knowledge and experience to be good candidates to replace Wayne would not be NRA members? “Right knowledge and experience” is exactly what many BOD and NRA members innocently believed Lapierre to be. Unfortunately, that goof always was and remains the treacherous, deceitful, conniving political operative who has proved a danger to himself as well as everyone around and associated with him. As I have said previously, the NRA membership possesses all the “competencies” to manage the educational, business, advocacy and lobbying affairs of the NRA. The NRA is not ROCKET SCIENCE! We… Read more »

Russn8r

Word! Buckley was anti-gun, of course.

ahhiyawa

In one of Buckley’s many endless, senseless diatribes on National Review he had this to say concerning the 2nd Amendment:

…The Second Amendment can be made to sound as if it authorized any weapon. Common sense would seem to compel a different reading of it in a nuclear age…

Russn8r

Who needs to actually know anything or do any homework when you can refer to “common sense”. Buckley was an elitist NY P.R.í.C.K.

NRO is still cuckservative central.

JSNMGC

ahhiyawa,

Would you say your view of those corporate functions is fairly typical of the view held by people who worked in the military?

That is, that random people would “be infinitely better ‘administrators’ than ‘senior’ goofs from ‘large, complex business,’ with mystical powers of understanding ‘internal controls, corporate governance, reporting, and compliance.’”

Link

Hey, don’t add us truck drivers to this mess, without us who would deliver your ammo ?? >;)~

JSNMGC

Thank you for your service.

Truck drivers have knowledge and experience to properly drive trucks.

Mortarmen have knowledge and experience to properly use mortars.

The people in the various functional areas of a corporation have knowledge and experience to properly do their jobs.

Someone with knowledge and experience leading people in those various jobs has a lot of work to do at the NRA. It’s screwed-up.

Wild Bill

The “… knowledge and experience… ” that you now argue for are the same education and credentials that you argued against not long ago. I knew that eventually you’d be changing your argument.

JSNMGC

Not at all, Wild Bill.   What I indicated before was that an argument should stand on its own.   When Person A goes on the internet and makes a statement and Person B disagrees, Person A should be able to engage in the discussion by explaining his position. If Person A states his view on economics or corporate finance is correct because he has a degree in political science or criminal justice from Hamline, a law degree from UVA, and some military training on logistics and then declares that Person B has no education, has never accomplished anything, is unemployable,… Read more »

Wild Bill

No argument can stand on it own in a vacuum because a logical argument is based upon facts leading to a conclusion. Sometimes “facts” are not facts. That is where the con job comes in. Thus the declarant must answer the question “Why should be believe your “facts”? People often answer this question because they realize the necessity instinctively. For example: I was standing right there. It happened to my sister in law. etc. John Lott might say, ” I know because I made a detailed study of the matter.” Credentials are the shorthand for knowledge and experience. Actually I… Read more »

JSNMGC

Your position was that you were right because of your credentials. A “declarant” must not answer the question of what their credentials are in an internet conversation because: People can falsely represent their credentials; and, more importantly, Whoever has the “best” credentials is not right – the person with the right answer is right. Using credentials to declare yourself right is the habit of a ticket puncher and a degree collector. People with knowledge and experience (which may include credentials far superior to yours in corporate matters) don’t do that – they just make their argument. Regarding who is best… Read more »