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Standard Capacity Magazines Ban

Standard Capacity Magazines Ban

AmmoLand Gun News

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Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Word came late this afternoon that a backroom deal has been arranged between both houses of the NJ Legislature to reduce by a completely arbitrary amount the maximum capacity of ammunition magazines from the current 15 rounds, to no more then 10.

This is a goal that has been pursued by various NJ Legislatures such as Lou Greenwald (D-6) for the last three Legislative Sessions but got little traction until 2013 after the horrific shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

It was held back from being voted on last June by Senate President Steve Sweeney, who publicly stated that the existing limit of 15 was sufficient.

That’s all changed in the blink of an eye. With his eye’s firmly set on taking over Chris Christie’s job as Governor in a few years, the formerly long time NRA A Rated Sweeney has shown his true colors in recent weeks. Lashing out at constituents for persisting in questioning him regarding his position on NJ Gun laws during regular Twitter Thursday Events.

After last Summer proposing some of the most onerous Anti Gun Legislation in recent memory, dropping his NRA A rating to a C and costing him the support of many blue collar gun enthusiasts in his home district.

Details are scarce thus far. But what we do know is that the terms of the deal, as reported by two sources close to the negotiations have stated, seem to center on accepting the ten round magazine capacity limit in exchange for tweaks to the wording of the current firearms transportation laws.

Its true that NJ’s restrictions on transporting firearms legally are notoriously draconian and have been used in the past as threat to intimidate gun owners and prospective gun owners, as well as a weapon of vicious punishment for even honest, technical mistakes, as was seen in the Aitkens and Revell cases. There is no logical reason for gun owners to agree with gaining back a few more exceptions to an already overly narrow law governing something that has been stolen from them, in exchange for agreeing to go along quietly with a new, even lower magazine capacity restriction that is already in place and that will have absolutely no effect on violent crime or shootings.

Greg Ridgeway the Deputy Director of the National Institute of Justice ( The research and academic arm of the Dept of Justice) reported in a secret “white paper study to the Obama Administration in January 2013 stated.

” The 1994 ban on large capacity magazines had limited effectiveness because ” Large Capacity Magazines” are a durable good ”

Dr Ridgeway went on to state ” In order to have an impact, large capacity magazine regulation needs to sharply curtail their availability to include restrictions on importation, manufacture, sale, and possession. An exemption for previously owned magazines ( Grandfathering), would nearly eliminate any impact. The program would need to be coupled with an extensive buyback of existing large capacity magazines. With any exemptions, the impact of restrictions would only be felt when the magazines degraded or when they were no longer compatible with guns in circulation. This would take decades to realize”.

A separate, more exhaustive study undertaken by the Non Partisan National Academy of Sciences in 2004 titled ” Firearms and Violence, A Critical Review” examined twenty of the most Popular Gun Control laws or proposals and found not one, including those pertaining to limiting magazine capacity had “any statistically significant impact on crime or violent crime rates”.

Of course, all this will be ignored by the likes of Loretta Weinberg (D Essex) who was instrumental in co-coordinating bringing several out of state Sandy Hook Families to Trenton last year to push for such restrictions in New Jersey. Something main stream media, like Editor in Chief Tom Moran at The Star Ledger, had nothing but praise for. Apparently as reported in today’s late breaking news, arrangements are already in the works to bring Sandy Hook Families back next week as part of the public spectacle and “fanfare” surround this deal.

“As part of the fanfare surrounding the announcement of the ammunition magazine limit, families of the young victims of the 2012 Newtown, Ct. school shootings will be on hand to attend a press conference with legislative leaders. “

It remains to be seen if Mr Moran and Co will express the same indignant outrage with regard to bringing in families from out of State as props for this assault on legal gun owners as he was just days ago when telling Wyoming and numerous other States to “butt out” of NJ Gun laws.

The same Loretta Weinberg who, after coming under withering questioning regarding an earlier attempt at banning .50 rifles, stormed out of a Committee Hearing on the matter and was heard by several witnesses saying “What do you expect me to know about all this ? We pass laws all the time we know nothing about “

The same Loretta Weinberg, who was among a clutch of female Legislators last Spring and was caught during a “hot mic” moment when the words “Confiscate, Confiscate, Confiscate” were uttered. Several people familiar with Weinberg’s voice, after listening to the audio tape insisted it was her, but independent verification never came to light.

The fact is, this issue is not now, and never was about having any meaningful impact on actual crime or criminals. It is about power, control, arrogance and a deep seated, vicious and bigoted hatred of firearms and their owners.

If it was about crime, the Legislature could simply pass a law that made the possession or use of a so called “high capacity magazine” during the commission of crime a sentence enhancer, just like they have done in the past with the Grave’s Act and with Hollow Point Bullets. The fact that there isn’t even a mention of such language in this deal, and that is it focused exclusively on the hollow act of giving back to law abiding gun owners rights and privileges that were illegally and unethically stolen from them in exchange for the arbitrary mag capacity limit is proof that this was never about criminals.

It was about Democrat’s Extreme Anti Gun Ideology plain and simple.

About Dan RobertsDan Roberts is a grassroots supporter of gun rights that has chosen AmmoLand Shooting Sports News as the perfect outlet for his frank, ‘Jersey Attitude’ filled articles on Guns and Gun Owner Rights.As a resident of the oppressive state of New Jersey he is well placed to be able to discuss the abuses of government against our inalienable rights to keep and bear arms as he writes from deep behind NJ’s Anti-Gun iron curtain. Read more from Dan Roberts or email him at DRoberts@ammoland.com You can also find him on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dan.roberts.18

  • 19 User comments to “NJ Legislature Declares War on Millions of Standard Capacity Magazines”

    1. I assume the capacity restrictions don’t apply to police officers, sheriffs deputies, corrections officers or security officers at the state capital.

      As I thought. Laws for them and laws for us.

    2. Just remember, if N.J. gun owners stand united they are “Stronger than the Storm” of anti-gun legislation flooding Trenton. No more will I squander my vacation money at the Jersey shore either!

    3. More so will the new laws make the criminal abide by them…yea Mr. I’m gonna kill you to take a joy ride in the sweet car..is going to throw away his 15 Rd mag and buy a 10 or have his pinned per the law..NOT..it only hurts the good people. Assholes..

    4. If this gets signed by Christie he can write off any nomination from the GOP.

    5. So what, you now have to carry five less bullets, who would need more than 10 bullets other than law officials!? honestly, how many times a day do you think “oh darn, out of bullets!” And John, I’m sure nj will really be devistated by your lack of presence at our beaches this summer. we are extremely upset.-love, Jersey

    6. richard boyd on February 21, 2014 at 1:32 AM said:

      i hope the people of nj. will take a stand. and refuse to obey these unconstitutional laws. do yor duty,and expell these thugs that call themselves lawmakers. they do not even know what the law is. do not obey.

    7. Well, if FATSO plans on having a run at 2016,

      HE BETTER NOT SIGN IT. Bwaaahhahahahahaha!

    8. oldgringo on February 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM said:

      For some reason my comment was knocked off again!

    9. mine was also not posted, I wonder if it was bc i’m for this law and bc I told john that nj won’t know how it will recover without his business this summer

    10. Michelle, is that you? Get off this blog right now. AF1 is picking us up in 5 minutes!

    11. Yankee Gohome on February 21, 2014 at 9:37 AM said:

      It’s obvious that the East Coast is a liberal paradise. I say take all their guns away. That entire aging, cold and overtaxed area is in decline. Let those idiots give up their gun rights. I would even support a gun confiscation program for them. New technology can “sweep” their homes and find hidden assault weapons and dangerous high capacity magazines. Let’s take their weapons and see what happens, it’s a great experiment. Conservative East Coasters are welcome to move to the south and live in a freedom but do not come and vote democrat! I see so many Yankees flee their high tax socialistic homeland to only turn around and vote their “liberal conscience”. Unless you Yanks are committed to change, stay home, vote liberal, open up your wallets turn in your guns. You don’t need 10 rounds to kill a dear as your great leader Mario said.

    12. I just love it when “seminar posters” invade these forums. They cherish using their Constitutional “free speech” rights to “chip away” at other peoples’ rights and life choices. Whether or not I spend my money at the Jersey shore has about as much economic impact as outlawing high capacity magazines has on reducing crime!

    13. who said anything about anti-guns!? I am anti “let any Idiot own a gun with as many rounds as they want” bc Its their “right” to bear arms. but hey maybe we should all own assault rifles especially when defending ourselves against teenagers and loud car music and fathers on their cell phones in theatres, both potentially scary scenarios I would expect any american to defend themself against.

    14. Michelle, It’s not a matter of running out of ammo, It’s a matter of what’s next. Give them an inch and they’ll take a foot. Look around and things that are happening. We are letting these so called law makers run away with our rights.

    15. vom Brunhaus on February 22, 2014 at 7:04 AM said:

      What Greenwald, Sweeney & Bryan Miller are doing Constitutes harassment and a continued form of entrapment by State Officials with their Laws. This Democrat push has one goal to make folks so disgusted and fearful, they get rid of their guns.

    16. What rights are they taking away, specifically?

    17. Iamright Urwrong on February 22, 2014 at 9:47 AM said:

      @Michelle How about the right to sufficiently defend my life and the life of my loved ones.

      Who are you or anyone democrat politician to decide how much force I can use to fight off bad guys, do you think criminals are going to follow that ignorant law. This video show how this woman and her kids would be DEAD if she did not have a so called “assault weapon” with a Standard Capacity magazine.

    18. I see the “seminar posters” are back. My military and law enforcement experience probably pre-dates their diaper wearing days. Crime is the problem, not guns, knives, baseball bats, broken beer bottles, and what ever else the miscreants use to inflict death or bodily harm. You want to deter homicides? Start by bringing back the death penalty.

    19. Well lets start with our 2nd amendment “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” or the 4th amendment “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized” shall I go on. People need to educate themselves before they speak. If your anti gun it’s your right not to own one but leave my rights alone. I don’t come to your house a force you to own a gun.

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