Active Danger To Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit Holders

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Active Danger To Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit Holders
Virginia Citizens Defense League
Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia – -(Ammoland.com)- There have been some real problems with Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP) holders being stopped in Maryland and the Virginia State Police telling Maryland law enforcement that the driver has a Virginia CHP.

There is a bill in the General Assembly that will put an end to that issue, BUT THE SITUATION HAS JUST GOTTEN EVEN MORE URGENT.

Two days ago the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, whose rulings affect Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, and South Carolina, said that during a stop an officer can frisk ANYONE AT WILL if he believes THEY HAVE A GUN, whether possessed LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY – including being possessed by those who have a CHP!

So now, if you are stopped in Maryland, West Virginia, North Carolina, or South Carolina, and the officer finds out you have a CHP, he can frisk you without the need to have either reasonable, articulable suspicion or probable cause that you are armed AND dangerous.

This was a horrendous decision.

THE SOLUTION

Senator Stuart's SB 1023 is the solution. SB 1023 prohibits the Virginia State Police from sharing a person's CHP status with any state that does not honor a Virginia CHP. That makes perfect sense. If a state considers our CHPs to be nothing more than toilet paper, why even bother telling that state that you have such a “worthless” permit?

The good news is that HB 1023 cleared the Senate Courts of Justice today and is headed to the Senate Floor and then to the House.

Our critical challenge is that we need to get as many legislators of both parties on board to be in a position to override a possible veto by the Governor.

ACTION ITEM

WE NEED **ALL** OF YOU TO SEND THE MESSAGE BELOW TO YOUR SENATOR TO 1) DRUM UP SUPPORT AND 2) TO EDUCATE THE SENATORS ON THE NEW FOURTH CIRCUIT RULING.

This is one bill that many Senators, who normally are not good on guns, might well support!

Click here to send the pre-written message to your Senator and please do this NOW:

LET'S GET THIS DONE, VCDL!!

About Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL):

Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

For more information, visit: www.vcdl.org.

  • 8 thoughts on “Active Danger To Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit Holders

    1. I have wondered if there was anything that would prevent disclosing CHP files to other states. The trouble is that the information has already been given to any state that has asked for the present files. Living here in NoVA, it is a continuous concern whenever venturing into MD or DC just for work projects. I’m not stupid enough to carry anything firearm related into either jurisdiction. I know that they already have all CHP records in their data base and due to their tyrannical state policy, will not take anyone’s word when it comes to firearms. I remember years ago hearing about a vacationing Florida family stopped by a trooper in Baltimore. They were subjected to abusive questioning and their van essentially stripped on the roadside because the father’s CCW status had been shared with MD. Nothing was found, but the humiliating damage was done. I expect no better treatment.

    2. How would this legislation fix this problem, particularly with other states increasingly establishing reciprocity agreements with VA, and the current push for national carry legislation. If ultimately my CHP information will be shared with anyone who establishes such an agreement with Virginia, am I not still at risk from an overzealous LEO still using that knowledge as the basis to subject me to a search?

    3. In my humble opinion conceal carry is worthless along with being unconstitutional; they simply provide the government with a list of who probably have firearms and we pay for this; Oh! these lists have been published by they way! The answer; no permission slip, you simply lose your right to carry if you commit a crime; the way our founders intended! This most likely won’t happen, however is the only answer. The truth is anything less and you can’t avoid breaking the
      so-called law at some point!

    4. THIS DECISION WILL BE OVERTURNED!!! ITS NOT LEGAL PER THE 4=5 AND A FEW OTHER AMENDMENTS ALSO THIS SO CALLED DECISION IS REALLY BOUGHT BY THE CLINTONS LOOK INTO THIS BUT WATCH OUT YOU MIGHT GET SICK.

    5. This harkens back to the bad old days when Va State Police acted like complete morons on the road, would jerk you out of your car, disarm you, unload your gun and tell you not to reload it till they were out of sight. Retired and current LEO’s from out of state used to despise these guys until they were reigned in, not to mention law abiding citizens. Now it appears as though it could be a return to those days unless the Legislature puts a stop to it in Va and other States.

    6. Support the National Reciprocity bill now in Congress, sponsored by Rep Hudson. [this is a good bill which should have Post Offces added to the open locations]/
      NRA-ILA | NRA Backs Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill in U.S. House
      https://www.nraila.org/articles/…/nra-backs-concealed-carry-reciprocity-bill-in-us-hou…
      Jan 4, 2017 – On behalf of its five-million members, the National Rifle … applauded the introduction of H.R. 38, The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, …

      1. whatever happened to the 14th Article of Ammendment, that guarantees the rights we have in any state are also valid in any other state? Full Faith and Credit, I believe.

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