House Action Imminent on Senate Bills 584-586

Concealed Carry
Concealed Carry

USA -( Senate Bills 584 & 585, which would allow any CPL holder to obtain a general exemption to concealed pistol free zones, and Senate Bill 586, which would clarify that public schools, intermediate school districts, community colleges, public libraries, and other public authorities are local units of government, are expected to be taken up by the Michigan House of Representatives sooner rather than later -as early as next week!

While MCRGO, the NRA, and other firearms law reform activists nearly uniformly support these bills, there are several changes we would like to see in the House to Senate Bill 584.

The last minute Senate addition of airport property to the list of pistol free zones should be removed. It appears to have been added to prevent future situations where Open Carry activists have carried on airport property, but it misses the mark by applying only to concealed pistols.

We would also like to see the Senate's ban on intentional display and open carry removed from the bill as the language could be used to prosecute CPL holders who are printing or inadvertently showing a firearm.

Please contact your state representative now to let them know you support Senate Bills 584-586 with the changes noted above. You can find him/her HERE.

Some key points:

  • 98 percent of mass shootings occur in pistol free zones because they are target rich locations.
  • Pistol free zones don't prevent people with criminal intent from carrying a gun there.
  • The are numerous examples of situations where CPL holders have stopped shootings or prevented them altogether. It happens far more often than many people realize because they aren't reported like unchallenged mass shootings with high body counts.
  • No Michigan CPL holder has ever been mistakenly shot by another Michigan CPL holder or law enforcement in the 17 years Michigan has had shall-issue concealed carry. Michigan has over 600,000 CPL holders who carry daily in busy public settings.
  • Michigan CPL holders with a general exemption would be the best trained in the USA!
  • The legislation does not negatively impact private property rights.

Michigan Coalition For Responsible Gun Owners

About MCRGO:

The Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners is a non-profit, non-partisan organization. Formed from just eight people in 1996, we now have thousands of members and numerous affiliated clubs across the state. We’re growing larger and more effective every day.Our mission statement is: “Promoting safe use and ownership of firearms through education, litigation, and legislation.”

For more information, visit their website.

  • 7 thoughts on “House Action Imminent on Senate Bills 584-586

    1. The aricle is incorrect. This bill is not “universally supported” by all gun rights groups, some, correctly, oppose it, like Michigan Open Carry for example.

      The Senate amendments were poison pill “compromise”amendments when no compromise was necessary to pass it, they were gifts to the antigunners by “Republicans” who continue to completely fail to understand the meaning of the word “compromise” or how to advance an agenda. Here are the problems wih this bill that the article fails to mention:

      It gives legal force to “no guns” signs (under current law we can ignore them unless specifically asked to leave), and since many of the “new” places this bill would allow us to carry are already signed, we actually gain NOTHING from this bill.

      The sign section does not define what constitutes a sign, how it must be formated, where it must be placed, etc. So a 1 inch sign printed in swawhili and posted on the inside of the manager’s office door would habe the same force as a 3 foot sign with flashing lights right in front of the front door, as would a statement buried on their website, in a rules poster, etc. You can violate this law and not even know it.

      Penalties for violating the law are increased, even when that violation is unknowing.

      You can ALREADY lawfully carry in every single one of those zones, you just have to Open Carry (Open Carry with a CPL has no state level restrictions), all this law does is let you conceal.

      It also REMOVES your right to Open Carry in those places. If Open Carry is your preference, your out of luck. If you do it as political speach, well, you lose your first amendment right to free speach too. (Example: I Open Carry when voting, do I have to make a choice between my first amendment rights and my right to vote?)

      Getting the exemption requires ANOTHER class, which you will have to pay for and take a day (or more) off work for), and amending an existing license to add the exemption requires a $20 fee. And since they have removed your right to Open Carry in those places, if you want to exercise your Second Amendment RIGHT to carry, you will have to pay for it, literally, while currently you can do it for free just by Open Carrying.

      So, to summarize, we gain nothing, we just have to pay MORE money and lose rights we already have.

      THIS IS AN ANTIGUN BILL!!!!! We must not allow it to pass unless the antigun Senate Amendments are stripped out completely. This is the exact same way the Hughs Amendment turned the Firearm Owner’s Protection Act (FOPA) (Which the antigun states ignore anyway) of 1986 into a machinegun ban.

    2. I wish the open carry nuts would knock off these demonstrations. All it does is get the sheep in a tizzy and then demand action. Open carry was legal in Californistan until a bunch of open carry people kept swarming Starbucks. Moms demanded something be done and boom, no more open carry.
      This is exactly the same as the nut jobs in the NFL kneeling during the national anthem. Sure its a right but best not practiced right there.

      1. You either have a Right or you don’t and you, apparently, don’t seem to understand that concept. Let’s try this: you have the right to free speech but not when you’re in a political gathering, a group of more than ten, any venue where someone might be offended. Other than that you have free speech. Not so free any more is it?

      2. CA. has a lot more problems than “open carry nuts”. CA.’s problem lies with it’s politicians.

      3. Think about Clint Eastwood and the movie GRAN TORINO. Lots of bluster and the politicians see another opportunity to strike.
        The police in almost any area of the country, in any jurisdiction know who their troublemakers are. if they see a known gang-banger open carrying they can make an arrest. Criminals carry concealed when they want to pull a job. They don’t go armed except when they are planning to rob, rape or whatever.
        The law abiding don’t know when they may be attacked, criminals don’t make public announcements. Honest folks must carry 24/7 because criminals attack at any convenient time for them.
        Laws are only obeyed by the law abiding. Laws against self-defense are pro-crime laws. Are law makers too dumb to know that? [ Rhetorical question , yes they are or they have another agenda.]
        Whether it is Michigan, Illinois or Washington, D.C., legislators want subjects not participating citizens.

      4. Your argument is ridiculous. First, Open Carry was once, not long ago, uncommon in any state, now it’s quite the opposite, why? Because people, the ones you deride, went out and did it enough to normalize it and desensitize the public. There habe not been mass carry bans as a result, in fact some states, like Texas, have lossened their laws to make it easier. Only already antigun states, like California, who ban guns anyway, pass bans.

        Second, people only open carried in California because it was the only legal way for millions of people in that state to carry because they made getting a concealed carry kicense effectively impossible. Are you implying that carrying at all makes one a “nut?” Perhaps your on the wrong site, or are just an antigun troll.

        Third, your argument is literally “don’t do it or they might ban it and you won’t be able to do it.” How does that pants on head retarded argument make any sense whatsoever? Either way your not carrying. A right you don’t use is no right at all.

    3. What starts in Kalifornia…doesn’t stay in Kalifornia. You folks should know better by now. Just like thirty years ago all we heard from “hunter groups” was, “why do you need those black gun anyway?”

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