Gun Violence Fact : Violence Prevalent As Much Elsewhere As Here In The United States

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Gun Violence Fact : Violence Prevalent As Much Elsewhere As Here In The United States

Virginia – -(AmmoLand.com)- Some recent Winchester Star online commentary pushing gun control quoted some of the usual gun-control fake facts and false conclusions.

In the commentary “Prevalence of mass gun violence,” the author makes a lot of false or misleading statements that need to be corrected.

First, the United States is NOT the only developed country in the world where regular mass shootings occur. In fact a study shows that the United States came in 12th when compared to European counties based on the frequency of mass public shootings per million people from 2009-2015. Just because such European mass shootings are not covered in the American press doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. The study can be found here: www.crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-ratesfrom-mass-public-shootings-in-the-usand-europe/

Second, comparing Japan to the United States is a waste of time. Culture has a lot to do with murder and suicide rates. Japan doesn’t have the rampant illegal drug and gang problem the United States has and they don’t have the associated murder rate to go with it. Murders are very rare in Japan, with any weapon. But their suicide rate is very high — more than twice as high as the United States and virtually all those suicides are committed without a gun.

Third, the author talks about “automatic” firearms. There hasn’t been a murder in the United States with an automatic firearm since a police officer killed his wife with one in the 1970s. An automatic firearm keeps firing shots as long as the trigger is held in or it runs out of ammunition.

The author is probably talking about a completely different class of firearms: the semi-automatic. The majority of handguns and rifles in the United States are semi-automatic, where one pull of the trigger causes one shot to be fired. Heck, even a revolver, which isn’t technically a semi-automatic, fires one shot every time the trigger is pulled!

What’s particularly amusing is the author says, “Gun-control advocates aren’t asking people to give up their hunting rifles or even the pistols they keep for personal protection. What we need is a complete ban on automatic weapons…” Banning semi-automatic handguns, rifles, and shotguns would ban pretty much every common self-defense firearm!

Of course, that is the real goal of gun control, isn’t it?

Philip Van Cleave is president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League.


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  • 20 thoughts on “Gun Violence Fact : Violence Prevalent As Much Elsewhere As Here In The United States

    1. LETS START CALLING THEM THE REAL NAME OF THE NEW COMMUNIST PARTY, BOLSHEVIKS, THEY HAVE FOLLOWED KARL MARX’S PAPERS OF HOW TO TAKE OVER A COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS AND NOW WE SEE THE RESULTS OF OPEN BORDERS, GUN CONTROL/CONFISCATION AND THE TAKE OVER OF OUR SCHOOLS TEACHING KARL MARX BULLSHIT AND YOU PARENTS OUT THERE HAVE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THIS AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE THE NEWEST COMMUNIST COUNTRY. JUST LOOK AT THE LAST ELECTION 52% OF THE VOTERS VOTED AGAINST TRUMP, PROSPERITY, JOBS, SMALLER GOVERNMENT, LOWER TAXES FEWER REGULATIONS AND THAT IS HOW WE LOSE THIS COUNTRY. VIETNAM VET

    2. First off I wish that folks would not succumb to Politically Correct terminology as there is no such thing as “GUN VIOLENCE”!!! Those who use Politically Correct Speech are themselves purveyors of FAKE NEWS What we have is simply put violence. If there were such as thing as gun violence then we would have hammer violence screwdriver violence rock violence etc.
      Political Correctness is best known as the art of shaming one into accepting and agreeing with a certain agenda to avoid being ridiculed.
      Politically Correct language… is designed to make lies sound truthful murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to hot air, nothing but pure wind.
      Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
      I will offer this to all who would be free Americans! We do not have a gun problem, we have hearts without God, homes without discipline, schools without prayer, courts without justice, and politicians without brains!!!

      .

    3. Comments using sweeping labels and phrases distort and devalue good arguments. Be careful when using phrases such as “left wing democrats” and “right wing republicans” or worse, “the American people.” A careful reader will immediately reject the rest of your argument because you have included too broad of a group. Those sweeping generalizations are divisive and include persons who probably are sympathetic to your concern.

      Gun Control is far too important an issue to alienate persons who would otherwise support your argument. Be specific about who did what and when.

      1. Robert, I believe the poster made it quite clear who the “radical left-wing Democrats” are, and there may be many of them, but they are not sympathetic – as he stated, they are the ones pursuing “gun control”. Who did what and when? Take a look in the news for current issues and our history for past offenses – again, quite clear.

    4. Before the radical left-wing Democrats pursue their gun control agenda they need to disclose their strategy for disarming the gang bangers and other criminal elements. Also, so as not to appear hypocritical they need to get rid of their armed body guards and security personnel.

    5. @Philip Van Cleave, What is gun violence? Are you going to let the people control socialists make up phrases and control the debate? What are the states on framing hammer violence? How about croquet mallet violence? Bailing wire violence?

      1. Wild Bill, Van Cleave did not use that term, except in citing the title of the commentary he was rebutting, and the heading of this column is provided by the editor of this site. You are correct, we need to stop using their terms and definitions, but real terms and definitions. I also try to avoid using the word “gun” that has been given a negative connotation by the anti-rights politicians and groups. I prefer to use the terms firearm, rifle, pistol, etc.

    6. A word of advice: When debating or confronting anti-gunners rely on the “World Almanac and Book of Facts”, published yearly. It contains crime statistics, suicide statistics etc. as compiled by the FBI, the World Health Organization, the Bureau of Justice Statistics and usually other reliable sources. Bone up on the numbers, the years and names of the sources. When they try to boll you over with b.s., get in their face with the truth. You know not everyone will be convinced, no matter how strong your points are. If need be, bring the book along; slam it on the table for effect.
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      1. The USA keeps records, but they are not necessarily compiled so that crimes, suicides and accidents are accurately listed. But some countries go out of their way to down play certain types of crimes.
        The British didn’t/ don’t want to list IRA bombing deaths as murders, so they don’t.
        Does it matter if 50 children are hacked to death with a machete or they are shot? The question might be how many crimes are stopped with a machete or how many crimes are stopped with a gun?
        Dr. Lott has the best take on statistics because he breaks them down and makes them understandable.
        Many anti-gun groups “tweak” FBI numbers to make them look worse.
        The main stream media often won’t report anything from the NRA or Dr. Lott but take anti-gun numbers as gospel.
        The actual number of school shootings is about 10% of what is reported by MSM and the gun control groups.
        A drug killing between a pusher and an addict at 2 AM in te morning across the street from a school is not a school shooting.

    7. I’m still trying to figure out what “Gun Violence” means?
      I’ve owned guns for over 50 yrs and not one time have they EVER shot anyone or ever misbehaved or been violent. I guess I just raised my guns to be respectable fine weapons……it’s all in the parenting!!

    8. The primary purpose of the Second Amendment is deterrence and ending tyrannical government. Such other reasons, as hunting, target shooting and even self-defense are so basic they were considered as “without saying” God given rights.
      But the Constitution of 1787 put the militia under domination of the Congress which means if Congress is the tyrant, there is no protection for freedom.
      That is why Patrick Henry demanded a Bill of Rights and why the Second Amendment protects the unorganized militia that is not chartered, financed and paid by Congress.
      A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state? [Yes, absolutely, therefore]
      The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

      1. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only the centralization of gun ownership in the hands of a small political elite and their minions…..
        This is why the founders gave us the unambiguous RIGHT to bear ARMS.

    9. It would be great if this article appeared in some of the ‘major’ rag papers.
      And on the boob tube also. I know…not likely?

      1. @Jeff, Yes, and we all know what that agenda is. Luckily the people that you write about live in the big cities. Big cities are vulnerable places. Cities rely on uninterrupted delivery of food, fuel, electricity, and water. No delivery and in three days city people would be screaming to be saved. In two weeks they would be killing each other over a hot dog, a quart of gasoline, or a bottle of water.
        Or one could just poison the water system, and quietly drive away, thus reducing the number of socialist, globalist, freedom hating betrayers.

        1. The movie “Escape from New York City” comes to mind . Time to build “THE” wall there too include NJ in it as well.

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