Moulton Misses the Point on the Second Amendment

Seth Moulton thinks our Second Amendment rights are a "problem" in need of a "solution." (DOD photo)
Seth Moulton thinks our Second Amendment rights are a “problem” in need of a “solution.” (DOD photo)

Massachusetts/United States – -(AmmoLand.com)- Let’s get one thing out of the way: Seth Moulton served in the military during the War on Terror and put his life on the line. As patriotic Americans, we owe him gratitude for that. However, his military service does not mean we should fail to call him out for going after our Second Amendment rights. Moulton has held himself up as part of the “Problem Solvers Caucus,” but sadly, it looks like our Second Amendment rights are something he sees as a “problem” in need of a solution.

Unlike fellow War on Terror vet Tulsi Gabbard, Moulton has been very vocal in his desire to strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights. In his first campaign for the House, he got endorsed by Michael Bloomberg. He’s also spread the nonsense about how “civilians don’t need weapons designed for war.” Never mind that civilians already cannot acquire the select-fire (capable of firing either a single shot per trigger pull or at full-auto) M4 carbine that is standard-issue for the United States military due to the 1986 Hughes Amendment.

The AR-15 and other modern multi-purpose semi-automatic firearms – the only fire one round per pull of the trigger. While they bear a superficial resemblance to the M4 carbine, M16 rifle, and AK-47, they are not “weapons designed for war.” They are no different from a Remington 597 or Ruger 10/22, semi-automatic rifles owned by many law-abiding citizens.

Moulton is misusing his combat service to give credence to one of the big lies spewed out by anti-Second Amendment extremists, in an effort to punish millions of Americans who never shot up a school, church, mosque, concert, movie theater, or other public venue for the misdeeds of a very tiny minority. Justice Department stats show that you’re more likely to be killed with someone’s bare hands than with a rifle of any type, much less the so-called “weapons of war” Moulton is fear-mongering about.

This deceit alone makes Moulton a non-starter for Second Amendment supporters, but Moulton is worse from there. We have the usual votes for “universal” background checks (never mind that NICS doesn’t have complete records, and in many cases, shooters already passed the checks). That’s not a real surprise. Nor was his vote in opposition to HR 38, the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, in the last Congress.

What is stunning is that Moulton also voted against the Veterans 2nd Amendment Protection Act, which addressed the arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights to certain veterans. These veterans had not been declared dangerous to themselves or others, they simply needed help managing their disability benefits. That is potentially a huge mental barrier to seeking help for service-related conditions.

The practical reason should not obscure a principle: The invisible wounds suffered in the course of serving our country should not become a reason to strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights, barring a court involuntarily committing that person after due process.

Our Second Amendment rights were among those Moulton was defending when he served this country. He has the right to his opinion about them under the First Amendment (something some members of his party don’t seem to respect), but Second Amendment supporters need to use their First Amendment rights to point out just how badly he is missing the point on Second Amendment issues.


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About Harold Hutchison

Writer Harold Hutchison has more than a dozen years of experience covering military affairs, international events, U.S. politics and Second Amendment issues. Harold was consulting senior editor at Soldier of Fortune magazine and is the author of the novel Strike Group Reagan. He has also written for the Daily Caller, National Review, Patriot Post, Strategypage.com, and other national websites.

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    Stripeseven
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    Stripeseven

    Kind of sounds like someone has decided to totally disregard the Constitution. So where did these Elected Servants all of a sudden come up with this assumed power, in their attempt to destroy the Bill of Rights anyway? The United States Constitution is to limit the power of Government not the American people.

    The Revelator
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    The Revelator

    Ok Harold. Lets ask a question. “However, his military service does not mean we should fail to call him out for going after our Second Amendment rights.” Your words right? Well, doesn’t it seem hypocritical that someone named Harold Hutchison, who is trying to pass himself off as such a stalwart second amendment supporter, has spent a very long time with dozens and dozens of articles attempting to lecture the real second amendment supporters of why we should be compromising with the Anti’s on the left? “This deceit alone makes Moulton a non-starter for Second Amendment supporters” Hmm, So what… Read more »

    Arizona Don
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    Arizona Don

    Anyone who knows the history of the twentieth century in Europe and Asia should know what the penalty is for registering and/or surrendering their guns. Somewhere between one hundred seventy million and two hundred sixty million citizens. Think about that number for a minute. That is half or more of the total population of the whole United States of America. Many of the people who were marched to open pits and shot execution style throughout Europe and Asia actually had supported the dictator and helped elect him. So what does that really mean? It means just because you are a… Read more »

    Stan
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    Stan

    It’s nice in theory, but this will never work. Essentially no one is going to give up their family in the futile attempt to keep their weapons. If weapons are outlawed MOST citizens will hand them in. And in a tyrannical dictatorship such as the one you postulate, the one household that holds out will just be an example to the others. When you watch your neighbors watch you get dragged out into the street and shot, they aren’t going to sacrifice little johny or Sally, or the pregnant wife for some ideals of liberty. But if you disagree with… Read more »

    jean-marc evrard
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    jean-marc evrard

    That’s what people said in pre WWII germany when they registered guns and later confiscated them, the only difference, they where honest enough to not call them buy backs and claim it was for the safety of the children !!

    USA
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    USA

    Shit, you’re smoking Crack. Liberals here that demand gun control are armed to the teeth and they refuse to comply to gun control so your theory of surrender is way out there even for liberals. Gun control is nothing more than liberal politics to disarm those they don’t like. Social justice. We have fags here waving rainbow flags in one hand and AR’s in the other and they’ll fight to the death for their guns. It’s a circus and yeah they will watch you be dragged out and executed because they hate nonfags. Fags are ruthless sicko’s. (Gay misspelled backwards)

    Jim Macklin
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    Jim Macklin

    People need to read and understand more than just the words in the Second Amendment. Why those few words were selected is more important than the words themselves. The reason for the Bill of Rights to even exist is based on government abuse and tyranny. The issue surfaced in Boston in 1768. Boston was occupied by the British Army and the soldiers became a huge part of the Boston population. Maybe doubling the adult male population. Then in 1773 the people of Boston dumped the King’s tea in the harbor. Still this seemed minor. Then in 1775 the patriots learned… Read more »

    Chiefton
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    Chiefton

    You are spot on. All the proof that one needs to support your facts can be found in the writings of the Federalist Papers. This should be mandatory reading in every Civics class as it explains all the thoughts put into the Bill of Rights. To take away any of the Bill of Rights is solely so the government can control the people. The 2nd Amendment is there to give the people the ability to control the government who oversees the Army. There are unquestionably those sheep out there who would never defend their own rights but there are many… Read more »

    RegT
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    RegT

    Chiefton, I’m almost seventy, and I have no direct knowledge of current school curricula, but I have read that they don’t teach civics any more, and that the Constitution is not taught in its entirety, let alone the Federalist papers. Maybe there are conservative private schools that still teach thos topics, but I’m pretty sure you won’t find them where Common Core – a socialist attempt to reduce the education of our children and grandchildren – is used. Fir most kids, it is necessary for the parents to straighten them out on the facts, although they should also be taught… Read more »

    Will Flatt
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    Will Flatt

    Harold misses the point that ANYONE that runs as a COMMIECRAT is someone who CANNOT BE TRUSTED, EVER. Harold mistakenly thinks that just because that someone served as a vet, that they should ‘get it’ with regards to the 2nd Amendment. However there are plenty of Commiecrats who served in the military, pukes like John Murtha and John Kerry. NO COMMIECRAT CAN EVER BE TRUSTED, NEVER EVER!! And neither can some Republicans (RINOs). What we need is a 2nd American Revolution, to flush out all the traitors so they can all be nailed. Politics and petitions for redress of grievances… Read more »

    Big Jim
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    Big Jim

    Lets not forget John McCain.

    USA
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    USA

    I can’t because I still have targets with his picture on them.

    R L Diehl
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    R L Diehl

    ARs, AKs etc are PRECISELY the sort of “arms” the 2nd Amendment protects! Its purpose is to establish that we have the means to keep our government under our control. So that when doofusses like this guy come up with these unconstitutional ideas we can tell them no and mean it!

    Quatermain
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    Quatermain

    That’s OK, Hutchinson misses the point on 2A also. He never saw a “compromise” he couldn’t buy into.

    Country Boy
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    Country Boy

    I don’t care what he served in nor where, it does NOT give him the right to strip me of my rights. he’s a swamper if ya ask me……..damn you’d think an ex-military guy that “foughtfor our countries rights” wouldn’t come home and try to make the 2nd A null and void. Some much for what HE was fighting for. Someone needs to bitch slap some sense into him.

    Stan
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    Stan

    Please tell me where in the Constitution it says you have a right to an ar15… If you say the bit about ‘shall not be infringed’ then I assume you also would advocate for terrorists with violent felony convictions who are in the country illegally and pledge allegiance to ISIS while chanting “death to the USA” to have access to nuclear weapons. No? What happened to “shall not be infringed’?!?!? Seems like you are ok with *some* infringement then… This guy isn’t trying to take away ALL guns. He is just looking to take things a step further from current… Read more »

    Paul Fitch
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    Paul Fitch

    Being dumber than a stump is not considered a high mark in many circles. 1. Remember what “assume” does – makes an “ass” of “u” and “me”, in this case just you. Not allowing an avowed enemy of our country weapons is not an infringement on US citizens – but you knew that and were just trying to be a smart ass. Congrats on being half correct. 2. And, while you’re being stupid, unless that M-4 was manufactured before 1986, NO, YOU CAN’T LEGALLY OWN IT! “Under the NFA, it is illegal for any private civilian to own any fully… Read more »

    Stan
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    Stan

    Talk about dumb.

    1. The Constitution applies to EVERYONE under the jurisdiction of the United States. Not just citizens.

    2. The m4 was ADOPTED by the US military in the 90s that doesn’t mean none were manufactured preban – and do you mean to tell me you only concern yourself with appearances now? Because there are PLENTY of preban weapons with the functionality of the m4

    Chiefton
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    Chiefton

    You are totally ignorant of the law. It is NOT illegal to own a fully automatic firearm. You just need to pay a tax, get a background check and be approved by the ATF. Unfortunately, fully automatic firearms are ridiculously expensive when you do get a license to own them.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Chiefton, PF, and all the others, You are correct, Stan’s misstatements are either due to ignorance or on purpose. I wonder which.

    Stan
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    Stan

    @wild bill
    I haven’t made any mistatement. I’ve stated inconvenient truths however…

    Charles Moore
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    Charles Moore

    Those ISIS friends of the people you vote for are NOT citizens of the United States and have not rights here. We can infringe upon them till the cows come home. An AR15? Heck, the 2nd Amendment, along with the Militia Act of 1792 states that we are to have free access to M4s, etc. (although I don’t like the M4 platform), because we are to provide our OWN arms, suitable for militia (military) purposes OF THE TYPE IN COMMON USE AT THE TIME. In addition, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in US v Miller (1939) any firearms would fall… Read more »

    Stan
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    Stan

    And is there any relevant statutes or caselaw since then? Hint: I think there is… 😉

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Stan, There have been many acts of Congress and various legislatures, but those acts are contrary to the Constitution. Applying the proposition that legislative acts contrary to the Constitution are not law, from Marbury, even a casual reader of the Second Amendment can conclude that those acts are unconstitutional, and can never be more than erroneous legislative acts.
    As to Miller, Chas Moore is quite correct, and Miller is still good law.
    If one combines the holdings in Marbury, Miller, Heller, and McDonald, then the GCA, the NFA are pretty well repudiated.

    Stan
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    Stan

    @wild bill
    Funny though, the one branch of government the Constitution empowered with determining constitutionality disagrees with you. If you want you want to defend the Constitution , defend ALL of it, not just the second amendment.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Stan, the Constitution did not and has not empowered the Federal Judicary to determine Constitutionality. Please see Art. III US Constitution.
    I do defend all of the Constitution. If some future POTUS said We are going strictly back to the Constitution., then half the population and every politician, judge, and bureaucrat would piss in their pants.

    Stan
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    Stan

    @wild bill
    I know what article III says. And it’s not what you think it says 😉

    You obviously disagree, but your opinion is not the defacto reality we live in.

    James
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    James

    Stan.
    what you are spouting off about has not a thing to do about OUR 2ND AMENDMENT.’
    OR ANY OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS,’
    and you are TRYING TO MIX APPLES AND ORANGES.’
    and back when our founders created the 2nd amendment, there were NO MODERN FIREARMS AT THAT TIME YET INVENTED..
    but when the MILITIA were ordered to be called out, they were to bring THEIR OWN ARMS EQUAL TO WHAT THE ARMY WERE FIELDING AT THAT TIME.
    AND THAT STILL APPLIES TODAY.
    so think about that.

    Stan
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    Stan

    Please explain why what I was talking about doent have relevance to the second amendment…. As far as your claim that even today when troops are called up they are expected to bring their own weapons with them, weapons on par with what they will be using, how many enlisted grunts have their own SSBNs? Or m1a1s? Or stealth drones controlled half a world away? The reality of it is that not only have weapons evolved since the day of the founding fathers, so has the reality of both the military and civilian worlds. You might not like these changes,… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Stan, I see Jame’s point. Citizens and LAPRs are apples. Illegal aliens are oranges … with nothing to do with the Second Amendment.
    As to calling out the Militia. In theory, the unorganized Militia could be called up. You, Private Stan, could be one of those call ups.

    USA
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    USA

    Wild Bill is correct you could be a call up and Wild Bill would know. Trust me this info is right up his alley. It’s a good thing they don’t call up madmen right Bill. If you don’t wanna get caller then just act nuts like Arlo Guthrie. Tell em you want blood and guts hangin from your teeth or just post here that should do it. Lol.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Stan, When has your ridiculous and contrived hypothetical ever come up? What private person has ever had the technical and financial capability to develop, maintain, and secure a nuclear weapon? Only a handful of nation states in the world have ever had nuclear weapons … much less some individual. Yours are the arguments of a high schooler.

    Stan
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    Stan

    Look up what sum shinriyko did… Granted it’s more than 1 person, but they would have if they could have…

    The likely hood of my suggestion happening is not the point. Either EVERYONE has that right, or not. If you are ok with limits on the second then it’s just a matter of where…

    Firewagon
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    Firewagon

    Regardless of his ‘service,’ this anti-gun whack needs a daily refresher course in “our Rights!” Every member of Congress should be forced to watch the following testimony at least ONCE a month, perhaps once a week. Note, even bak-in-tha-day, the smirky condescending look on ole “Nose Under The Tent” Schumer, how obvious is that in telling you those ‘freaks of nature’ have no intention of allowing “We The Serfs” anything that ‘might’ affect them:

    Dr. Susanna Gratia Hupp testimony before Congress

    USA
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    USA

    She as well as many others is the precise evidence to them that their gun control works exactly as they have intended. They did nothing to correct the problem after listening to her testimony and then they wrote more gun control. They’re still writing more today and with Trumps blessing now have gone as far as to throw due process in the trash and implement gun control upon people they “think” need guns taken away. Only those who worship “them” are allowed to have guns according to their fake policies. They are a fraud.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    Harold, for once you were on a good roll. Yes, exposing the like of this Moulton dirtbag is a great service. But you had him up against the wall, but failed to drive home the real point: no matter his “service record”, since he is some sort of federal or state political office holde,r he had to have sworn an oath to uphold, protect, defend, enforce, the Constitutions of both his own state and of the United States. In his campaigning to remove our rights to arms, he violates that oath. In my view, that disquaifies him from any further… Read more »

    Charles Moore
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    Charles Moore

    Remember, John Kerry has a “military service record,” too. I don’t consider him to be of much value to our nation, either.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    I am a retired military officer that has known fellow officers, many very senior, that oppose citizens rights to arms. Some being hoplophopic. These officers of course favor and promote like thinkers. I still find this very scary. There should be no surprise in Moulton’s rhetoric. There is no reason to believe him to be any different than any other politician who’s means justify their ends. Consider it fortunate that he joined the anti-American democrats, instead sabotaging the republicans. We have too many saboteurs now.

    JohnBored
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    JohnBored

    Jack Mac,
    Good post. However, “who’s means justify their ends?” If Moulton’s ends are to disarm American citizens and gut the 2nd Amendment, then his ends are totally wrong.

    Mike
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    Mike

    “Unlike fellow War on Terror vet Tulsi Gabbard, Moulton has been very vocal in his desire to strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights.” No, Harold, Seth Moulton is as mentally deficient on the Second Amendment EXACTLY as is Tulsi Gabbard: https://gabbard.house.gov/gun-control “Tulsi is working to increase school security, shore up and reform our mental healthcare system, close the gun show and online loopholes, ban military-style assault weapons and bump stocks, and require background checks on anyone seeking to purchase a gun. She has cosponsored legislation like the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act, the Public Safety and Second Amendment… Read more »

    Refund
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    Refund

    there is NO GUNSHOW LOOPHOLE

    Jon54
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    Jon54

    You have failed to point out that the 2nd was designed to address tyranny of government.
    How will we the people be able to right the wrongs of overstepping government?
    1776 my need to happen again.
    But how, if we the people have been criminalized by having the tools to reduce tyranny?

    Keith
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    Keith

    “the 2nd was designed to address tyranny of government” This Statement is exactly why the federal and states governments should not be allowed to have any jurisdiction over the 2nd amendment. It’s as simple as conflict of interest.

    Will Flatt
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    Will Flatt

    That’s why “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” was written into the 2nd. Government is simply ignoring it.

    Politicians who infringe the 2nd should automatically be removed from office and barred from ever holding any other public position, even local dog-catcher.

    jean-marc evrard
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    jean-marc evrard

    You will know the government has become tyrannical when they criminalize your ability to stand up against them !!

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Jon54, Our tool will be asymmetrical warfare. The libtards are incapable of conducting any kind of civil war. So said libtards use government to do their bidding. We will reduce those numbers.

    Jarhead 0369
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    Jarhead 0369

    I knew Seth Moulton, I served in Iraq with him. During our tour he was relieved of his duties as a rifle platoon commander for showing exceptionally poor judgement that put His Marines lives at risk. Rep. Moulton should stick to worrying about his little slice of Massachusetts and not work to try to deny his fellow Americans their Constitutional rights.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Jarhead, Moulton is now putting us all in danger. When I was an active duty officer I had only one fear of being fragged. That was that it would be determined justified.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Jarhead, Brother, you need to tell his story!

    William Fender
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    William Fender

    He is a traitor to the constitution. Once you ignore your oath nobody in this country owes him squat. I hope he enjoys his liberal lying lifestyle because once you cross that line there is no coming back.

    Core
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    Core

    The bottom line is that the Second Amendment is a Right within the US Constitution, and Article VI declares everything within it Supreme Law. Government cannot touch it! Defund them!, Disbar them!, Discharge them! The Commonwealth of m-Assachusettes and their elite bureaucrats can take that and shove it where the sun don’t shine. People of Mass. please start voting out these unconstitutional clowns before it’s too late.

    Joe Davis
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    Joe Davis

    Good content guys ….. they can start at my house , I will take one for the team ! I have never been in the military (went to the recruiter but have a bad eye) but I have sworn an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States on my own !

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Joe, formal military training is nice to have, but unnecessary for warriors. Try not to take one for the team, live compatriots are preferred to dead ones. Fighting against certain death does occur. It is preferred to avoid and evade to ambush. Then escape to do it again. A lot of us may become one of the hundred-million armies of one.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    Military firearms training is OK, but not great. Some get the school of live fire under attack, which can sometimes teach more. But without excellence in skill at arms training, the other lessons won’t make you survive. For the best rifle marksmanship training out there the Appleseed organisation is the one Sixty five bucks for a two day course in every aspect of marksmanchip. We constantly get militayr and es militiary come out and they always marvel at how we teach them things military never did.. and when they learn these their marksmanship improves signficantly. Explore appleseed info dot org,… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Jack M, You are correct, sir! The “Jim Bowie” defense will not be effective or necessary. We will need patriots that look ordinary and harmless.

    JPM
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    JPM

    I don’t know if Moulton is ignorant, stupid or a stooge but I suspect the latter. Not everyone who served our great country is a good person and it’s wrong to assume that they are good people based upon a single set of actions. He’s obviously gone full politician and his true character is being revealed.

    Repo37
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    Repo37

    So because the military carries a similar weapon that automatically makes it a weapon of war? What about the 9mm they all carry? Is that also going to be considered a weapon of war? Most weapons at some point somewhere were carried by a military force. Companies build weapons trying to get large Gov’t contracts and then afterwards they introduce them to the civilian market. Because the USA market is so big we have companies that just go straight to the civilian market but alot did start out looking for Gov’t contracts. So using the left’s argument they should be… Read more »

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    True enough. Every one of us who own a 1911 pattern pistol have a “weapon of war”. That was designed by John Moses Browning as a miltary side arm for officers, originally desiignated the M1911. He later developed the smaller, higher capacity Browning High Power, BHP, origninally designated the M1926. My everyday carry. Many of Walther’s designs, the Lugers we can all now buy, I believe the Beretta 92 were also developed for military use, as well as a good number of Sigs, FN’s, and some of the revolvers we all know and love. Then there are the long guns.… Read more »

    JOHN H
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    JOHN H

    You can’t shame a gun grabbing fool, but your list might give them something else to start crying about !!

    Repo37
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    Repo37

    I lived in mass until recently and sent emails to this moron several times about pro gun issues. Every time I recieved a form letter back thanking me for being on his side in the gun control fight even though what I sent him was exactly the opposite. It was so frustrating that he would actually send responses back like he and I agreed. I kept sending my emails while I lived in mass but since I escaped to NH I haven’t sent any more to him

    Martin
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    Martin

    Mayor Pete and this guy are just the leading edge. Their is something seriously wrong with our military. I know many vets and nearly all think firearms should be regulated to the point of no longer being in citizens hands. The military is ingraining socialism/authoritarianism into those that serve. If we loose them we have lost.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Martin, you should meet more vets. I have found very few to be against their fellow citizens possessing firearms. The military by nature is authoritarian and too many commanders are willing to carry that outside the military. I doubt that we would loose all of our military members. Even if we did we would not have lost. I am concerned about the recruitment on non-citizens.

    JOHN H
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    JOHN H

    I think the problem’s began when the military started their don’t ask don’t tell crap, and began letting all the little pantywaist enlist !!

    Old Guy
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    Old Guy

    His attitude is not entirely unusual for those who were officers in the military. My cousin served in Vietnam and eventually retired out as a Lt Colonel. his attitude was that civilians did not need firearms and if they had any they should be strictly regulated. This attitude was repeated by several others that I knew. Seemed to think we should trust the military and police with firearms only.

    Son_of_Liberty
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    Son_of_Liberty

    This is because in order to become an officer, you have to go through college (liberal conditioning camps).

    Dr James Clary
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    Dr James Clary

    Not all of us who were officers are liberals. I retired as a Major (Vietnam) with 100% service connected disability and am very, very conservative (see my writings). I consider liberalism a mental disorder…. genetic is some cases and learned in others. There is no cure for it…. those infected need to be locked up and have the keys thrown away. That is the only cure for their disease and the only hope for our country.

    Dr James Clary
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    Dr James Clary

    And BTW…. there is always room for one more gun in the cabinet and you can never have enough ammunition.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Son, you make a strong point about college, and people going through them. Unfortunately, your point can be made about pre-college also. As a retired military officer my views have never been what is now called liberal. Too many of my brother officers can be called such liberal.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @OG, Another case of the arrogant deciding what others don’t need. I bet that your LTC cousin, now that he is a civilian, has more than one firearm.

    m.
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    m.

    moulton: BIOOYFMFA

    Gunner98
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    Gunner98

    Not all who “serve” are heros, self sacrificing or loyal. Some are self serving posers looking for a ticket punch to further their civilian careers and/or a free education. The pride and honor of being an American is of no consequence to them. Seth Moulton is on of these. His primary platform when running for office, here in Mass, was “I’m gay and had to hide it while in the Army (boo hoo).” Not a qualifier for POTUS but worthy of the Libtard pity vote. Moulton is a big government, limited rights, America bashing D-bag. Ultimately as dangerous to Individual… Read more »

    JD
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    JD

    What is it about the environment in MA? Seems to produce “Patriots” who serve their country to pad their resume to pursue a political career. The one whose ambition to become POTUS was torpedoed by some of the men who he served with in VN is still committing treasonous acts.

    Gunner98
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    Gunner98

    Two amens to that. Must be something in the baked beans that causes a bad reaction. That or the water polluted by factories.

    craig
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    craig

    It seems each day I hear more and more that all of these people that are anti-gun just really have NO clue about the truth of guns and makes and or the understanding of the US Constitution. One day that we all as Americans does not come is another civil war. At that point all of these anti-gun people will learn very quickly how stupid they have been. A part that is so ignored in the anti-gun community is the new market they are creating…AMERICA GUN BLACK MARKET”..This in itself will prevail as the new gun market and everyone will… Read more »

    MarkMyjak
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    MarkMyjak

    No one ever brings this up in mass shooting discussions. On May 4th, 1970, Kent State University had a mass shooting. 4 students killed, and 9 wounded. The perpetrator, the Ohio National Gaurd. Why, to quench the protesters on the US involvement in Vietnam and Cambodia. If this happened once by a state government. It will happen again by our government and has happened. Does any body remember the gun confiscation down south after the south got hit very hard from a hurricane? They came in by force with weapons drawn to disarm and leave hurricane victims defenseless. How about… Read more »

    Mark Are
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    Mark Are

    WTH people? We don’t HAVE 2nd amendment rights. We have UNALIENABLE rights that include the right to defend our state of well being against anyone trying to infringe on it. The 2nd amendment is a COMMAND to those who are sworn to defend the Constitution to leave our UNALIENABLE rights alone. Any violation of any of our UNALIENABLE rights is a direct act of war against We The People. You know…the FOURTH branch of government that is being ignored because of the money power transfer since 1913. Right at the beginning of this “article” I take issue with the very… Read more »

    Spurs6
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    Spurs6

    Moulton may have a true conviction about guns in the hands of civilians. I don’t know his service record but if he saw enough “asymmetrical warfare”, he could have an educated, albeit misguided, opinion. Props and thanks to him for serving.
    That said, shame on him for not seeing that he’s being manipulated by the dark forces of the left. If he’s a true patriot, he’ll come around. If he’s an elitist then, service to the country or not, he’s a traitor and the enemy.

    n r ringlee
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    n r ringlee

    Likewise, I served nearly three decades, survived America’s most unpopular war to be met by “progressives’ and leftists who vilified me for doing my duty. That life lesson has stuck with me for over four decades now. I learned at that time and during my subsequent readings of politics as two very left wing universities that our Founding Values are the only thing worth preserving in our Republic. I knew that before I hit the yellow foot prints but that central truth was reinforced time and again. And our Founding Values are a composite whole and not a smorgas board… Read more »

    Doug
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    Doug

    Welcome home Soldier

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Doug, Marine. NRR was a marine and a mustang as well. Thank you for your service, LTC Ringlee.

    Ooh Rah
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    Ooh Rah

    Thank you sir, some us do understand, Many will never understand it wasn’t really a war of principal even though we had it. In the end, not one knew but us. It’s not about that shit hole that you never forget, or if it was the poppy that kept the world happy and it always seems we find another conflict where one bully bandit is trying to take it from another. Hell the CIA will fix it. All that crap to hand it to Pol Pot for slaughter time. Chinese are anti drug or is there a new boss in… Read more »

    Chris Mallory
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    Chris Mallory

    What aid? What comfort? Which enemies? Or are you just talking out of your butt?

    Bill
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    Bill

    You may be technically right, in that the enemy is unidentified. Meanwhile, what label would you give to a person who undermines his country, in whatever way he might choose? Good to look at whole meaning, and not get tunnel vision.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Chris, our enemies are easily identified. They are anyone who wants to disarm us or allows it. The most dangerous are in official authority. These people have already identified us as their enemy and are advancing against us. The us are all the US of A citizens wanting the rights of freedom.

    John Roseborough
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    John Roseborough

    Our second amendment rights protect us from an over zealous government. Previous dictators like Adolf Hitler always disarmed the populace by one ruse or another so that he would have no opposition to total and complete control of the country. Automobile accidents kill more people than guns, and anti – second amendment rights folks, who often have armed protection, never discuss all the events where guns are used, I. e. crimes, law enforcement, etc.

    Mark Are
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    Mark Are

    First, we don’t have “2nd amendment rights”. We have UNALIENABLE rights and the 2nd amendment is a PROHIBITION against the government to infringe on that unalienable right. As for the 2nd amendment itself…the first 13 words, possibly the most important 13 words in the whole constitution was eviscerated in 1903 with the passage of the Dick act doing away with them. We as a people HAVE NO MILITIA which the founding fathers declared was NECESSARY for the SECURITY of a free state. Do you live in a free state? Or are you a SLAVE like the rest of us. Is… Read more »

    Joe
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    Joe

    Our second amendment rights were never in need of defending from the Taliban or Saddam. So, no he wasn’t defending or rights. Our freedom is threatened by the enemies within, not overseas.

    Tommy Jenkins, CSM US Army
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    Tommy Jenkins, CSM US Army

    He wore a uniform and swore to uphold the and defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic…. the same oath we all take. Know your audience and know your facts before spewing words of venom. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    Mark Are
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    Mark Are

    Well you’re doing a good job of proving the last sentence for yourself. AND posting that you were CSM US Army DEFINITELY removes all doubt. You were conned into being a mercenary for the international bankers, oil companies and CIA so that you could defend what THEY wanted you to defend. And it sure as hell wasn’t me or my rights. And I’m NOT sorry if this raises your ire against me or those of us who think like me. We need a MILITIA not a stinking standing army that is being worshiped like some lousy golden idol these days.… Read more »

    Bill
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    Bill

    What a person wears and says does not necessarily define what he is. Do you really believe otherwise?

    Richard Zakosky
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    Richard Zakosky

    One hell of a way to retired, office personal management DAV now, god I’ve gotten a raw deal and everyone just watched me go down hill with no empathy or remorse thanks alot 5south DOU San Diego CA VAMC.

    Richard Zakosky
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    Richard Zakosky

    If the VA wants to get you they’ll do anything to protect there butts. At least at the end of it, I’m not involved in medical criminal activity anymore.

    Richard Zakosky
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    Richard Zakosky

    No due process Judge Steven Stone San Diego superior court cash in a favorite after I fought 1year half to keep my second amendment rights. Former US Attorney southern California who defended the VA Medical Center after I went forward with adverse events.

    Mark Are
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    Mark Are

    Since your right to keep and bear arms is an UNALIENABLE RIGHT granted at birth, get a gun, keep it for your protection and be willing to SHOOT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TAKE it. That includes RED COATS calling themselves “law enforcement”. You see, to FIGHT for FREEDOM we have to make sacrifices and sometimes that means dying. So if we are willing to DIE for our rights, then eventually those who are infringing on them will realize that a paycheck isn’t worth getting shot for. I’m a pissed of armed run away slave. Yes, that is what I am.

    Sierra556
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    Sierra556

    Harold, there may be hope for you, yet! Thanks for exposing this Moulton rat turd!

    Roy D.
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    Roy D.

    So he was a veteran who served in time of war. I believe that Benedict Arnold did the same.

    LibertyToad
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    LibertyToad

    …at least Arnold had some understandable reasons for changing sides, unlike Moulton…

    Thinker1
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    Thinker1

    Moulton is giving aid and comfort to our enemies. That is treason.

    n r ringlee
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    n r ringlee

    Our oath is to protect the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. Our enumerated rights are a comprehensive whole of natural rights granted to us by our creator. Folks who work to undermine our Constitution and our Bill of Rights are enemies of the Republic. That is why I believe we are now in a civil war, a cold one for the most part, and it will go hot unless progressives like Moulton understand the American people will not submit to authoritarianism nor will they give up their natural rights. Funny thing about most Americans. They might not… Read more »

    Mark Are
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    Mark Are

    Really? Like all those Americans that defended their right to keep and bear arms after Katrina? As a whole, Americans are yellow striped cowards. Their military in the case of drones sit behind a desk in a bunker thousands of miles away while they drop bombs on wedding parties and children. IT MAKES ME ILL! The united states of America needs to change it’s name to the United States of Pussyana.

    Gary Munn
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    Gary Munn

    Well and clearly said, sir!