U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “This looks like a pretty good resource for more than that,” I commented on my WarOnGuns blog. I was referring to a website a correspondent had sent me a link to that gave information about 2019 Florida gun laws.
That’s just a small piece of everything American Gun Owner Alliance offers. This work-in-progress has sections on state and federal laws, ATF rulings, case law, and legal reviews. AMGOA lists resources for state and national gun groups, shooting ranges, social media groups, and blogs. They present informative maps, information, and analyses about state and federal legislation. They include business listings, to find an attorney, a gun dealer, a trainer and more. They have an events section for rights rallies and gun shows. They also link to important news and opinion pieces and have fact check information.
“What we intend to build is an alliance between all of these gun-related organizations, no matter how large or small and non-affiliated gun owners to create a voice for all of America’s law-abiding gun owners,” AMGOA says. To that end they share their “simple goals”:
“Educate and inform both gun owners and non-gun owners about any new proposed laws that may infringe on our rights. Bring like-minded groups of 2nd amendment supporters together to stand up against unconstitutional law. Use the numbers of our membership to show legislators we will not be silent. Call out the media and anyone that would mislead the public on gun-related facts or information.”
My only caution, I noted at the time, was that I had no real way to establish their bona fides, something I’d need to see before encouraging donations and the like. It’s not like we haven’t seen “gun groups” needing a deeper look before.
AMGOA Founder Dave Dalton was quick to reply and invite me to ask him anything. So in the spirit of “trust but verify,” I did, asking him things like how long they’ve been around, are they incorporated, are they a registered non-profit, who knows them and what legal work they’ve been involved in.
His answers were candid and comprehensive. Rather than paste the entire back-and-forth here, I’ve posted our conversation on Scribd for any who might want to take a closer look.
These people are the real deal. So is the attorney they are working with Joshua Prince, a leader in defending and advancing the right to keep and bear arms I’ve had occasion to write about over the years (and chief counsel for the Firearms Industry Consulting Group in the bump stock challenge to the Trump administration whose Guedes case has been paired with one I’m a plaintiff in).
“AMGOA is growing into a new role by becoming a non-profit organization,” the group announced Monday. “Over the years as our site and membership have grown there have been many calls for us to convert to a 501c4 and now we think the time is right. We are currently asking for donations and seeking new supporting members…”
The change will facilitate fundraising to allow for greater litigation support. The expansion will also allow for coordinating smaller groups to work together on local matters.
I don’t make endorsements lightly. Dalton and his team have been working tirelessly at great personal cost for years and they have an exciting vision that has great potential.
Longtime readers know I never ask them for a dime for myself, and I don’t even view contributions I solicit for others as donations: They are payments for value received.
Here’s what I’m going to ask readers here to do: First, go over to the AMGOA website. Bookmark it, because it’s going to merit a thorough examination, and serious activists are going to want to return and use resources that help them in their advocacy.
If, after seeing what AMGOA offers – and what it can offer if allowed to grow – you agree that you get value from the efforts, then simply do the right thing. Join and help. But that’s not all.
Please spread the word. If you’re on it, use social media. Tell your gun-owning friends. Tell your gun club. Tell the gun shops and ranges you patronize. If you belong to a state or national group, ask them to start a mutually beneficial relationship with AMGOA. Remember, we’re doing this for “ourselves and our Posterity.”
About David Codrea:
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.
Why must we fight and argue with each other? It’s exactly what the other side wants (divide and conquer). Don’t we all want to stand against the liberals wanting to infringe on the Second Amendment?
I don’t want controversy and arguments between our pro gun groups/members. We need to band together and share our common goals
Agreed 100%, What’s that old saying? ‘we must all stand together or we will most assuredly all hang together’ (or something to that effect)
Benjamin Franklin Quotes
“We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”
@RoyD THAT’S the one I was looking for! Thanks
Thanks for the tip Mr. Codrea! If you’re endorsing it, it must be the real deal; just joined as a life member.
Sir (I assume) I swear (Dave from AMGOA here) I will fight for our 2A rights to the death…. this is something I believe in more than my own life. My families ‘roots’ go back before the revolution and that sames blood pulses through my veins.
You want our guns? come and take them and see what happens!
You assume correctly Mr. Dalton. When I joined the Army I swore an Oath to the Constitution, that was for life and I intend to keep it. As for bonafides, I can trace my family to before the War Between the States and my children are Mayflower Children (through their Mother). You have a friend for life in me Sir. Long live the Republic!
Fight for our rights by pushing far and wide the first 13 words again. Make everyone understand what the word NECESSARY means.
@CL – not sure just what you mean. Do you mean that due to this necessity, we need to preserve the meat of the amendment, or are you arguing that guns should only be allowed within a militia organized and controlled by the state? Given your history, I have to suspect the second – which is a complete comprehension fail – flipping the clear meaning of the text in attempt to support the exact opposite.
Checked AMGOA out, bookmarked, sent link to my contacts.
Boy the gun grabbers are busy here in FL, they have one comprehensive lists of gun law proposals, most of which are anti-gun.
That’s pretty much the average amount of bills for a session in Florida, we actually just updated to add the pe-filed 2020 bills
Seems to me, any organization that was worth consideration would be able to post a website accurately. The Idaho Second Amendment Alliance web link is incorrect, it goes to Idaho Sport Shooters Alliance site.
Hello, those are posted by the public, not our staff but I will have someone look into it
Why not investigate and determine credibility before you allow such posts that represents you site? Media lies to us enough, can’t we do better?
With over 200,000 pages of information we do our best but yes some times things slip by us. We rely on people like you and our members to help us find mistakes like this, it is fixed BTW … the URL was missing an extra ‘a’ at the end of it
Thanks for fixing the link. In regards to a previous comment, NRA members who walk away are a big part of the problem. I will not abandon them.
You have misstated the problem. The problem is that the NRA walked away from us.
Again with respect, I must agree with RoyD … they walked away from us. I have witnessed it with my own eyes in the halls of the capital building in Harrisburg PA.
And I’m not saying they don’t have a purpose (just like GOA), far from it. What I am saying is they need to get back to that purpose.
Lastly as I mentioned above, we are not, nor do we want to be the NRA or GOA, our ‘purpose’ is completely different (albeit on a similar path)
Mmmmkay..
I just don’t get it…why can’t anyone see the elephant in the room? And realize the only answer to the problem we face from the attacks on the 2nd amendment rise from the fact it was so badly damaged back in 1903 that it is about useless these days. The second amendment is the only place in the US Constitution the word NECESSARY is used. And it is penned in the midst of the first ignored 13 words. Ignored by the Feds, States, Counties, police, gun rights groups and EVEN US when it comes right down to it! These groups… Read more »
@CL, No one is buying that Dick Act and America turned into a corporation and sold to the Barron Rothchild foolishness. Anyone can go to Wikiepedia and read the wording and history of the Dick Act.
The ignoring of the Second Amendment is not attributable to one man or one event. Tens of thousands of elitists in government and business over the past 150 years have and continue to work overtime to “castrate” the American people.
Simply, well put, thanks.
An apparently you’re not too well informed either.
So let’s just keep IGNORING those 13 words and see where we end up.
You’re wrong. The Dick act is what the National Guard is based on and it removed funding for state militias. And exactly WHERE did I say anything about a “corporation sold to Barron Rothchild foolishness”. And WIKIPEDIA is hardly the source for accurate information. Go pound sand.
I suggest you read THIS instead of “Wikiepedia”. https://www.amazon.com/Thirteen-Words-Edwin-Vieira-Jr/dp/096717595X
@CL, So you want me to spend $16.98 on a paperback because you can not explain your legal theory. What a manipulator.
And the most somnolent insults. The twenty-one year old, check out girl at the feed store has better insults that you. Of course she is an Army vet.
The I GOT MINE CLUB( Example AL Gore and Climate Change),he was already an Uber multi millionaire before that from minerals and tobacco(from Ex Congress Daddy), then he marred the Heinz ketchup heiress(Billions), THEN he proceeds to jump on the Climate CONTROL issue to make him so wealthy he cannot see straight.
It’s al about money, then it’s POWER.
Al Gore’s father really wasn’t much until he found a sponsor-Armand Hammer, international financier/ industrialist, trader/traitor, friend of Stalin ! Hammer. gave the Gore’s property that does have a mine on it. One of Hammer’s subsidiaries was Oriental Mining Co.. Sort of parallels Joe & Hunter Biden. Commies have their ways of buying power and influence. It was John Kerry that famously threw his Viet Nam war medals over the fence back at the White House, ran for president, was elected Senator and,…. married Teresa Heinz While Al Gore got richer convincing people that cow flatulence would destroy the planet,… Read more »
@ Consider You might also, include the fact that when Gore ran for president he couldn’t even carry his home state of Tennessee.
@CL – OK I’ll bite. The meat of the 2nd is is second phrase, but unlike many here I’ve accepted that we won’t succeed at eliminating all existing infringements. Fact remains that the second phrase supports individual rights to own and train. To support a militia, FEDERAL government should provide preemption to support public ranges and training for anonymous use by individuals – including legal protections for range operators and trainers. The should also provide mechanisms for recognition of private militias – who cannot be required to identify members beyond organizing board of directors. Along with said recognition, said militia… Read more »
I’m a Patron life member of the NRA (currently on self-imposed exile) and my ancestors on both sides arrived on this continent before 1640 (not that it matters). I took the Oath twice and intend to keep it to defend the Republic with my life if it comes to that. I’m also a student of the Constitution and I’ve read in the Federalist Papers where Madison warned us about factions that divide the people and diminish our power to protect Liberty. I’ve always been suspicious when disparate groups form that duplicate funtions and weaken the force of our argument. Same… Read more »
With all due respect sir, we were members of the NRA for many many years and walked away after seeing problems within the organization but that’s neither here nor there. We do not claim to be the NRA, or GOA, that is not our purpose. We are here to educate people about things like new bills etc. Secondly we are here as a means to help groups and individuals to communicate with each other when they need help or information. I would ask you to read our ‘phase two’ vision on this page so that you might better understand what… Read more »
@DC, Don’t be discouraged, the gentlemen here are aware of false flag operations, propaganda, and ulterior motives of all kind. And in this era, those are healthy instincts.
An Exchange or Clearinghouse of bona fide reliable information sounds like a good idea. What is the cost?
@Wild Bill Our memberships are either free or a subscribing membership costs $19.95 a year or $150 for a lifetime membership, you can see the options here: https://amgoa.org/Membership-Options
Thank you for your interest
Mr. Dalton, I’m all for a group that attempts to aggregate gun owners and bring them together to fight for all of our rights but boy you guys have some work to do yet if you have David bringing AMGOA to everyones attention.
“last updated: February 7, 2016” A number of broken links that aren’t attributable to offsite contribution and at least one state with next to no information about available resources.
@Ansel Not sure where you saw what you quoted and what are you talking about with the state with ‘next to no information’
Secondly yes there is work still to be done, and plenty of it. Our limited staff is stretched to its limit as they all also have to work to make a living. No one on our staff is making a penny from this thing.
We have asked for volunteers multiple times and have heard nothing but the sound of ‘one hand clapping’
WOW! I get all kinds of negative down votes because I have the AUDACITY of actually suggesting we follow the WHOLE 2nd amendment and not just the last few words. Wild Bill I guess you and my other detractors are going to do really good against an ARMY that will come to disarm you vs having a state militia to help you out. GOOD LUCK with that. I am really disgusted with people that act like they have the answer and they are actually a total ignoramus. ANY of you that gave me a down vote on my answers really… Read more »
It would be better if they showed who gave the up and down votes. At least I think so.
Not sure who gave you the ‘down’ votes, everyone should be able to express their opinion and those that don’t agree should just ‘move along’. Honestly I think that’s 95% of what’s wrong with this country these days .. as I like to say to people (including my own wife BTW) get over it
@DC, You are almost right. Everyone should be able to express their opinion, and those that don’t agree should just be able to express their opinion, too!
@CL, You get no down votes because you suggest that we follow the Constitution. You get down votes because you suggest ridiculous legal theories about some unexplained event in 1903, ridiculous theories about the Dick Act, and ridiculous theories about turning the USA into a corporation and selling it.
Next you ask people why they don’t see an allegorical elephant in the room, and when someone answers your questions, you get angry an insult them.
You opened the door.