New York – -(AmmoLand.com)- The march for more gun laws in New York continues with on another assault on the rights of the citizens in what is truly becoming the Empire State. The latest is sponsored by state Senator James Sanders Jr. of the 10th Senate District which low and behold is over seventy-five percent Democrat and is in southeast Queens, some of the more crime-ridden parts of New York City.
The bill (S7065) (A01589) would make it mandatory that every gun owner in the state of New York get a mental health evaluation before they could purchase a firearm. This wouldn’t be a one-time thing, this would be for every gun and of course, these evaluations would have to be held at a location of the state of New York’s choosing and would be at the expense of the person looking to purchase the gun. This new assault on the rights of gun owners comes in the face of the ever progressive agenda of Governor Andrew Cuomo’s regime making it more than well known that gun owners in New York State are not only not wanted, they are on his list of targets and as he has said in the past if people don’t like his rules, then they are free to leave. The way things are going in New York, that’s getting to be the only thing they are free to do.
So, each time a gun owner wants to buy a gun, no matter what, they will have to seek out an approved mental health professional to have an evaluation performed.
For rural gun owners, where most people who own guns in the state happen to live, it would involve a drive to probably your nearest hospital. In my locale, that’s at least forty-five miles in one direction. Then there’s the cost of the expense to the price of the gun, which no one knows since it will be at the discretion of the doctor, and if the gun owner has health insurance if it will even be covered, etc.
Once the potential gun owner has the proof, he or she passed their mental health evaluation then they have to take that to the gun store and still fill out the paperwork. So, you can imagine this would be the death knell for all gun shows in the state because there would be no one walking out of one with a firearm purchased at all since the NICS check won’t even be able to be performed until the mental health screening is done. In fact, since most doctors don’t have weekend office hours, gun shops might as well close up because they won’t be doing much in the way of selling.
As usual, this new law would do absolutely nothing to keep criminals but it would another hurdle in a long line of infringements to law-abiding gun owners in a state where the ruling party with its new no cash bail law has dumped criminals back out on the streets to re-offend while law-abiding citizens are pleading with police and what few lawmakers are listening to reign in the lawlessness that is now just beginning to be realized.
There is also a larger and much more sinister motive to think about here. New York passed its own version of a Red Flag law last year, and unlike other states, it allows schools and just about anyone else to petition the courts to get an ERPO and have someone’s firearms taken away. Now can you imagine every gun owner now having to be subjected to a mental health exam, over and over again, where one wrong question, one misconstrued answer or even the bias of the doctor could not only prevent someone from legally buying the gun they were looking to get, but also lead to the police coming to the house and taking the rest and with a doctor’s word versus the citizen’s in court, the gun owner, soon to become the former gun owner, wouldn’t stand a chance legally.
This is just the ongoing pattern of gun control laws not only sweeping New York, and now Virginia and other states, but are just the tip of the spear of what the left really wants, to take guns by any means necessary. What these lawmakers couldn’t do one way is now being done another. I urge any gun owner in the state of New York to oppose this legislation, we can’t play the “it won’t happen here” game anymore, because when that gets said enough times, it does happen here, and it will happen here. This is an election year for all of the lawmakers in New York, and the cash bail law is proving to be so unpopular that it could cost a few Democrats their Senate and Assembly seats, perhaps enough to gain back some power, enough to keep Andrew Cuomo in check. Call your elected officials, write them, email them, and make sure they know where you stand, we are on our own here, we cannot rely on the NRA in New York which has sadly all but vanished.
The Founding Fathers never had a lobby group, they were on their own too, and New York was once part of the bastions of freedom from tyranny, I believe it can be done once again.
About David LaPell
David LaPell has been a Corrections Officer with the local Sheriff’s Department for thirteen years. A collector of antique and vintage firearms for over twenty years and an avid hunter. David has been writing articles about firearms, hunting, and western history for ten years. In addition to having a passion for vintage guns, he is also a fan of old trucks and has written articles on those as well.
A psychological exam should be mandatory for Politicians. For it is they who present the greatest danger to life.
Will potential auto licence applicants be required to do the same? Vehicles take more lives than guns every year. How about the purchase of alcohol or prescription medicines? Those can be deadly as well. This law is based on the presumption that you must be crazy to purchase a weapon and will do nothing but discourage purchase or ownership.
Vehicles will all come with an interlock system to make sure you are not drunk when you try to start the car. Progressives believe that original sin can be overcome by technology and regulation. So if I blow in to the interlock on my NY state registered car and it detects no alcohol I am good to go on the road. Then I can shoot up, tube up my crack pipe and kill a bus load of kids. Brilliant.
So what kind of testing will be required for the shrinks to pass in order to become an approved mental evaluationist? Sounds pretty much like you would have to be a commiecrat to me. Who gets the money? The fee sounds more to me like an extra form of taxation.
Prior to obtaining my Federal LEO credentials, I was required to successfully complete a mental evaluation. Questions asked during the session were, in part, do you think your Mom and Dad loved you enough? Did they spank you to much? Are you happy with your life? Point being, someone should have been asking the guy asking me the questions questions, as six months later he committed suicide! A Constitutional Right does not require expounding a need or want to anyone prior to the exercise thereof. Why are the servants always attacking the 2nd! Simply because if they can make that… Read more »
Now I feel cheated as they didn’t ask me those questions. I guess one of those NY shrinks could help me get through it. New York is truly, “Animal Farm.”
Meet the new Jim Crow. Take that literacy test, tell us the names of the wives of the Congressional delegation from Alabama, tell us how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and then you can register to vote. Jim Crow. The KKK should be very proud. They have convinced a black American to become one of them.
All ‘gun control laws’ are un-Constitutional: Article 6 states “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof…shall be the supreme law of the land”. Therefore, any federal or state legislative law, Executive Order or local decree not in 100% harmony with the U.S. Constitution, is null & void. When Americans obey the un-Constitutional ‘gun control laws’, they tell the tyrant they will accept any oppression and will accept those oppressions gladly. When Americans kneel and lick the hand of the tyrant (when they obey un-Constitutional ‘gun control laws’), they tell the tyrant… Read more »
tete: I countered the down vote you received. The truth of what you now wrote here should be obvious. The prohibition act was an experiment to determine if suppression of individual liberties could be done. The NFA was to test if rights could be infringed. Neither act caused significant defiance by private citizens. Both, the experiment and the test proved positive. By the NFA establishing a prohibited person (citizen) class, proved that the American people will allow the denial of rights from free citizens. The further disarming of private citizens is the final act, not the first, of our total… Read more »
Over the years I’ve met a number of folks who defied the NFA and as of yet haven’t gone bonkers with their toys. And I’d bet that if “they” ever start making felons out of semi auto owners LOTS of them will turn into REAL assault rifles.
I think that what NY needs most is a new govenor and not another Cuomo in any form.
How about a law requiring a shrink certify lefties to post on facebook, or twitter? We really need lefties to get a psych eval before they can run for office as well.
Damn. Perhaps they need to require mental health exam before anyone is allowed to go online, or vote, or buy gas for their car (assuming they are allowed to own a car). This goes way beyond “infringement”.
Sounds like NY legislators are pulling ahead in stupidity competition with CA.
I have a degree in Psychology and am a therapist. We can not prognosticate (even if someone has a mental disorder) if they are going to snap and become violent. So the entire notion of giving “everyone a test”…….ridiculous. New York is in big trouble . I have a gun for self protection only. It’s my constitutional right! The time has come where we are going to be forced to step up and defend our rights. I stood with the 22,000 plus gun owners at Virginia’s Capital (in 17 degree weather) to lobby against the laws which are coming our… Read more »
right after ALL elected officials get mental evaluations!
We should pass a law nationally that REQUIRES anyone running for public office has to have a psychological and emotional health evaluation done!!!
Done by the doctor of MY choice, basically any doctor who believes liberalism is an incurable disease.If you believe the constitution is flexible and RBG is a good justice, you’re not eligible to run for office, public or private.
Happens the following article came to my attention this morning. Note the accepted “test” therein;
“We already know how many politicians are crooked, but perhaps its time to start looking at them with the psychopath checklist in mind so that we can be better equipped to protect not only ourselves but our society from their malicious acts.”
What’s laughable is that the Democrats are pushing for mental health evaluations for gun owners when ANYONE who is a Democrat, or supports Democrats has to be mentally ill. Most, if not all of the Democratic Party and their supporters are out of touch with reality, are sexual deviates/perverts and have no common sense or logic. They deny facts, are narcissists with delusions of normalcy and sociopaths.
Leave New York. Even if it leaves you poor leave now. You can start over with nothing and come out alright. I did.
Problem is they leave NY and bring their brand of politics with them.
I made an account just to say this. I hear this theory all the time, oh they will bring their shit beliefs with them. Do you not realize that we want to leave because we dont agree with the beliefs here? So why would we take them with us when that is what we are running from?
Bingo My wife and I got fed up with Mass many years ago. Moved to Maine where we embrace the culture and beliefs held dear by those born and raised here. My answer to anyone trapped in a commie state is to get out ASAP. Go where you will be welcomed and let these shithole states collapse.
Will, I liked where I grew-up, but things have changed dramatically since then, hence the reason for leaving. The city controls the state elections – way too many to outvote.
Cruiser, I left New York, and brought my “brand of politics” with me – Conservatism.
Only the socialist state of NY would want a law that says anyone who buys a product needs to prove their sanity but you can be elected to political office and make laws that control the lives of citizens when you are certifiably crazy. That explains a lot.
Communist Party USA
I think all politicians should have to be evaluated, before elections and every 4 months during their term. And the doctor will beheld responsible for any wrong doing a politician does during their stay in office.
You first Cuomo, de Blasio, and Bloomberg. And your buddy Hillary.
This will get interesting when a mentally unfit firearm owner brings suit, like happened in the 1968 SCOTUS ruling in Haynes v. United States, wherein it found that a felon was not required to register firearms under the Fifth amendment of self-incrimination.
What if mental health professionals declare progressive ideology to be a mental disorder?
Our Founding Fathers would already have been finished shooting a second time. We should be ashamed for not having the grit to keep what they gave us. Freedom and liberty are never won at the ballot box…only lost.
Second? How about after the war for Southern independence where the southern states weren’t allowed to vote on the 14th amendment. How about the fact they changed the country into USA Incorporated at the same time? How about 1903 with the Dick act creating the National guard and removing all funding from the citizen state Militias? Can’t have empire building with just Militias you know. How about the standing army we have that they were so very much against? How about the 1913 Federal Reserve act which took the monetary power away from the people and gave it to a… Read more »
@CourageousLion You really don’t understand what the 14th Amendment is do you? While it should never have been needed, it was a reaffirmation of Article 6 Section 2 to all states within the Union. Those southern states who had only three years prior been defeated in the Civil War with reconstruction efforts underway and people trying to skirt the constitution to deny equal citizens their rights. So why try to throw that in with some legitimate claims you brought up shortly before going Full Retard Alex Jones style? Come on man, everyone knows you are never supposed to go “Full… Read more »
I am totally on your side.
What we need, is to have politicians and bureaucrats submit to a mental health
evaluations. Because every one of them is a habitual liar.
@MJ, Ethics tests, a ConLaw, exam and a background check, too!
He who tells the best lies is voted in every time. Oh wait, not this time. Trump has never lied. Oh wait, yes he has. EVERY TIME.
@wjd 1. His promises to defend the second Amendment. Violated when he ordered the implementation of the Bump Stock Ban through the DOJ, infringing instead of defending it. 2. His promise to only nominate Supreme Court justices from an approved list. The list was changed and edited, and his second pick was not from the Original list but came from the Add ins. This second judge has been more progressive than constitutional. Now considering those are two examples, There are others that he has Kept more of his campaign promises than previous presidents at the same time. 1. Defend Israel… Read more »
I know.. That’s why I gave two examples of each. To list each out would make for a long post when most here do not have the attention span for it. So as a rarity, I kept my reply limited at this time, but gave examples that covered more than just a limited scope.
@wjd – Finding the lesser evil is not the same as finding a saint. No one is claiming that warren, Biden, or Bernie are better choices – just pointing out that that trump is far from perfect.
@wjd Whether you were talking to him or not, he still has a right to chime in, but he is adding in other posts you have made over the last few months instead of talking about what you have just written on this thread of comments. It appears that what @Finnky is saying is that he doesn’t agree with everything Trump has done, but is still willing to vote for him. You have in the past attacked others who have stated that they cannot vote for Trump over issues of principle or conscience, in fact accusing them of supporting the… Read more »
I would argue that Politicians AND Voters would then have to take the same exam.
And all Mental Health Professionals would have to be approved by a Citizen Review Board (CRB).
The CRB would also have to pass a mental health exam.
Seems like the Gov doesn’t know much about HIPPA
So when do ALL elected officials get their mental health evaluation ? After all they are selling nukes around the world as to our small arms. Who do you think was arming ISIS ? How about North Korea, Iran, mexico (Fast & Furious). They provide weapons & ammunition for all the proxy wars. But yeah we need the mental evaluation. LOL
What would they find if they gave Cuomo a mental examination?
The the Dems should have no problem at all with requiring a citizenship evaluation to vote. At the voters cost of course.
“He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career.”
George Bernard Shaw
Make no mistake . . . they will keep pushing.
Push WILL come to shove.
Usual Democrat Corruption background; Sanders Corruption background: “In 2012, Sanders, who would have been term-limited in the City Council and unable to run again in 2013, opted to primary Senator Shirley Huntley, who was facing corruption charges. He would go on to win with 56% of the vote, winning the general election unopposed. He has been unopposed in the general election ever since. In December 2015, Sanders filed papers to challenge Congressman Gregory Meeks in the Democratic primary for New York’s 5th congressional district. However, he dropped out of the race in March 2016, accusing Meeks of leaking information to… Read more »
Sounds like he and Bernie would get along really well.
The requirement they’re trying to push is just another B.S. gun control scheme to deny law abiding citizens their 2nd Amendment right. It’ll also confirm that you have firearms and where they’re kept if you submit to the evaluation.
Check it out…New York also charges a $35 fee to instate residents to “star gaze” at certain parks. Which just goes to prove that insane people are running New York and they want GUN OWNERS to get examined???
Funny, Lennon would of probably voted for Hillary.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH Sanders mental health check. Anyone living in that liberal socialist and worse F#^*#@& state especially NYC must be crazy!
Sarcasm at it’s dumbest.