Sen. Sanders’ Cluelessness, Ignorance and Disregard for Gun Laws is Frightening

Opinion by Larry Keane

Bernie Sanders
Bernie Sanders’ Cluelessness, Ignorance and Disregard for Gun Laws is Frightening

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- Presidential contender U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders is either straight out lying, ignorant or seriously uninformed about gun laws in the United States. None of these is a viable qualification to set policy on America’s right to keep and bear arms.

Sen. Sanders (I-Vt.) answered questions at a CNN town hall event just prior to the South Carolina debate and primary about how his proposed administration would tackle the criminal misuse of firearms. He immediately pivoted to gun control talking points that have no foundational truth. Sen. Sanders laid out his attack on Second Amendment rights in a five-part plan.

Criminals Already Prohibited

“Number one, we need universal background checks,” Sen. Sanders said. “People who have a violent past, including domestic violence should not be owning guns.”

The Vermont senator clearly glosses over what is already standing law. Individuals who have been convicted of violent felonies and domestic violence crimes are already prohibited individuals. The background check Form 4473, which is required to the purchase of a firearm at retail, asks the individual if they are under indictment or have been convicted of a felony for which a judge could imprison that person for more than a year. It’s Question 11 (b) and (c). Answering yes to either of these questions is an automatic disqualifier.

If someone lies on that answer, it’s also a federal crime and if they are indicted or convicted, the background check runs through the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) will come back with a denial to the federal firearms licensee, which immediately halts the sale.

Nonexistent Gun Show Loopholes

“Number two, we have got to end the so-called gun show loophole which allows people to legally purchase guns while avoiding a background check,” Sen. Sanders said.

This is a fallacy. The “gun show loophole” is a gun control talking point that has no basis in fact. Licensed firearms retailers that sell guns at gun shows are required to run background checks the same way it happens in a store. The person buying the firearm must complete the background check form, then the firearms retailer verifies with the FBI’s NICS that the individual is not prohibited. “Unlicensed dealers” selling is a euphemism for criminals. If someone is “engaged in the business” of selling firearms, they must be licensed and regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. That means maintaining detailed records, abiding by all applicable federal and state laws and regulations and being prepared for ATF inspection. If someone is selling firearms for a living without doing this, they are criminals, plain and simple.

NSSF’s Don’t Lie

Don't Lie For The Other Guy
Don't Lie For The Other Guy

“Number three, we’ve got to end the so-called strawman provision which allows you to legally walk in, buy as many guns as you want and sell them to gangs and criminal elements,” Sen. Sanders added.

This one is out of left field, where apparently the senator gathers his gun control ideas. Someone who attempts to buy a firearm for another who is unable to pass the required federal background check, or does not want his or her full name associated with the purchase, is committing a crime. This is a felony, punishable by 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. NSSF, as the firearms and ammunition industry’s trade association, partnered with the ATF to combat this and funds retailer education seminars to identify the signs of a potential straw purchase and stop it in its tracks. NSSF also funds its Don’t Lie for the Other GuyTM campaigns with retailers and law enforcement to remind the public of the dangers and consequences of this crime.

Aside from the crime of buying a firearm for someone who isn’t the true recipient, anyone passing along a gun to a known criminal is committing another felony. Sen. Sanders said he wants this to be against the law, but he should know, as a federal lawmaker, that this is already the case.

Ban MSRs

“Number four, what we have got to do and something I have supported for like 30 years, is ban the sale and distribution of assault weapons in this country,” Sen Sanders said.

Again, this is already against the law. Any automatic firearm made after 1986 cannot be sold to the general public, as outlined in the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986. Those made prior to 1986 are available but require extensive additional background checks, including fingerprinting and registration with the ATF. They are also prohibitively expensive because they’re so rare.

What Sen. Sanders is really calling for is a ban on the sale of modern sporting rifles, which are semiautomatic rifles. They’re the most popular selling centerfire rifle on the market today. More than 17.7 million of these rifles are in circulation, making them commonly owned. Sen. Sanders wants a ban on technology that is more than 100 years old and would jeopardize the Second Amendment rights of all Americans to purchase the firearms of their choosing to self-defense, hunting and recreational shooting.

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Wait, there’s more. Sen. Sanders also told South Carolinians that he’s not above abandoning his principals to appeal to the radical base of his supporters. Sen. Sanders voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005, the law that prevents frivolous lawsuits against the firearms industry for the crimes committed by individuals. This law was in response to gun control groups and activists abusing the legal system to bankrupt gun businesses through continuous litigation for the criminal acts of individuals. It’s akin to suing General Motors or Ford over and over for deaths caused by DUIs. It’s nonsensical and an abuse of the judicial system.

Now, Sen. Sanders added his name to repeal these protections. Buckle up, It’s going to prove to be a bumpy ride.


National Shooting Sports FoundationAbout The National Shooting Sports Foundation

The National Shooting Sports Foundation is the trade association for the firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry. Its mission is to promote, protect and preserve hunting and the shooting sports. Formed in 1961, NSSF has a membership of more than 10,000 manufacturers, distributors, firearms retailers, shooting ranges, sportsmen's organizations and publishers. www.nssf.org

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Circle8
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Circle8

Is this deadbeat wife beater a communist or socialist or both. He sure as hell is not an American.

Arizona Don
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Arizona Don

When these gun control nuts answer one, just one question, authentically they may very well get, at least some part of, the control they seek. Like universal back ground checks. That question is how do you make an outlaw begin obeying laws. Until such a time what good does it do to pass more laws the outlaws do not obey. They only effect the law abiding citizens. Making them more vulnerable not less. Laws aimed at gun control “helps” the criminal by taking guns out of the hands of average everyday law abiding citizens. That increases crime not decrease it.… Read more »

Link
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Link

Even the Jewish people are not trusting burnie.
He has a bad habit of having racist antisemitic people working for him.
Ny post story on why jews are turning from him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/02/08/why-jewish-voters-are-turning-on-bernie-sanders/amp/

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Link

Wanting more laws should have a base of them actually being able to have a noticeable effect. As Eugene Volokh writes for the Washington Post, “one should have either empirical studies or at least an inherently plausible theory” when determining whether a law serves or detracts from an important government interest. When people say we need more gun laws consider the following, Fact: A felon can not have a firearm. Already a crime Universal background checks. Fact: All firearms sold by an FFL must do a background check. Already law. Make private sales use a background check. Fact: It is… Read more »

COJONES
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PLEASE, SHARE THIS, Read ALL of it first. http://www.batr.org/wrack/061911.html
Note { PLEASE } was added for Wild Bill to make it more palatable.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Co-jones, Read this. Share that. You give a lot of orders.

COJONES
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COJONES

My Bad, I Missed adding Please when you want to help People, Tho I can’t remember Trump saying it either. I corrected my post. NO offense offered or taken.
Anyhoo more importantly, Did YOU read it ? Comments Appreciated.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Cojo, Absolutely not. You could be sending us to one of those scam sites that infects one’s computer, if clicked on. If there is something that you want us to know, why don’t you brief it to the group?

Wild Bill
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@Will, Could be anyone. Could be my neighbor down the road a piece or some schmuck from New York City or some low-level political apperachik.
Cojones, in Spanish, means balls, ballsy or courageous. In English, it is Co-jones. Like co-partners or co-president.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, If he is a low level operative, I suppose that I should not answer him because then they get paid.

Link
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How about you say what it is about.
Then if we are interested we might look at it.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Link, Good opsec.

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Generally blind links are ignored.
It helps if the person tries to sell what they are linking to.
That’s why I don’t allow link drops in my mewe community.

MICHAEL J
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MICHAEL J

Why would we believe anything Bernie says when essentially he lied to get elected, lied to stay in office and lied under oath?
We should be electing the brightest, most intelligent and those with the highest level of integrity. Instead, we get a liberal self-serving lifetime career politician who loves communism
and wants socialism for all.

Link
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What you said about burnie described just about every politician in the last 100 years from both parties.

Stripeseven
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Stripeseven

Just another ruler wannabe that wants to put a hammer and sickle on everything and call it a day. They want us to have to explain to our grand children how we let freedom slip thru our fingers.

Arny
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Arny

Communist POS. Go ahead I will be a criminal accordingly. With whatever laws these ingrates pass. I will NOT adhere to. I believe I will pick & choose the laws I wish to follow. After all it works so well for the Demonrats. “I AM MAN.”

Tom Claycomb
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Here is what I don’t understand. I hear that Sanders is Jewish. Why are so many Jewish people so liberal and for gun control. Do they not remember the Holocaust?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@TC, No one hates the Jews more than the Soviets, yet Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spied, for the soviets, against the US, a country that gave them safety and freedom.

Bobocat
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Bobocat

Jews have the same problem that other people with too much money have. Can’t buy happiness anymore, cars, homes, boats, airplanes and whatever. They figure they can buy a country or government and don’t want any opposition.

Superman
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Superman

So all Jews have too much money? Since when?

Link
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I covered this before. Believe it or not, jews being anti-gun is a American thing. Those comming here during the first half of the 1900 believed in the great American dream of a big melting pot, that our constitution was a protection against the old world bias and hate that drove them away from Europe. They lived in enclaves where they protected one another and gun ownership was not prevalent, sadly they kept that misguided mentality after ww2, even the ones that survived the germans. They think that without guns the bad people are bullies that can be stopped when… Read more »

donfranko
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donfranko

Israel, our good friend, is not anti-gun, they are very well armed and all their people are trained in weapons use thru required military service, so I can’t fathom WHY American jews support and vote democrat. It make no sense.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Yes he’s a liar, yes he’s got a complete disregard for existing firearm laws, but clueless or ignorant –I doubt it. He says he’s a socialist. The difference between socialism and communism is in spelling only. Socialism/communism cannot take hold while there is an armed citizenry and he knows it, they all know it. This is because when the truth of socialism/communism become obvious to the common man and woman, THERE WILL BE A REVOLT. MOST of the demoncrapic party is socialist hence the requirement to disarm America. “Gun control” has never been about gun control, it’s about control of… Read more »

Green Mtn. Boy
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@. Deplorable Bill

Correct and the difference between socialism and communism is communism is socialism at the force of a gun.

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

It shouldn’t surprise anyone as the Burnmeister is a Communist,he holds nothing but distain for the Constitution and the Republic as a hole. Lying and or admission by omission are a forte of the Burnmeister,if this worthless Communist cork sucker is ever elected to the presidency ,make no mistake he will burn this nation to the ground.

Tionico
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Tionico

Part of Sanders’ problem lies in the fact he’s never really worked. He’s never had to live by what his hands do, nor even what passes for his mind. Thus it is easy for HIM to promote socialism/communism. Those two different flavours of the same punchbowl with different tirds in them are fantasy to him, based on the “feelz” he associates with them. He may have BEEN to Cuba, but he got the Potemkin Tour, always herded by the Castros who were very intent upon making a favourable impression oh him. I was in Nicaragua during the Sandinista Occupation and… Read more »

Darkman
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Darkman

Not Clueless…Not Ignorant…No Disregard…Just COMMUNIST…Always has been. Always will be. All one has to do is spend 15 minutes on the interweb. To learn all you need to know..

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Will, yes he is and they probably will knock him out of the running again. The problem is they are ALL socialists and they, if elected, will get around to doing the same crap he is proposing. The demoncraps have fallen a long way from; “Don’t ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” Kennedy.

Arm up, carry on.

Vern
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Vern

That is the part of his speech I never forgot, I was a sophomore in high school when he gave it.

gcm
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gcm

I was in 6th grade, 11-12 when it came over the P.A. system that president John F Kennedy had just been assassinated. Even as a child, I got a numbing feeling, and knew something drastic had just happened. We always hear about events like that being told from books in school, when most of us on here lived it. At that age most of us, if not all didn’t know Democrat, or republican, but all knew that was a tragedy to never forget, but not to mention later on in life you learn the truth about the Kennedy clan, and… Read more »

StWayne
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StWayne

I was six or seven, and remember it like it was yesterday. Lived in Las Vegas at the time. Then came all those crazy assassinations that followed. JFK was himself one of the last true Democrats. After that, it was all downhill for that party: especially when, as you say, it was learned of their mob ties and Senator Ted Kennedy leaving his girlfriend (Mary Jo Kopechne) to drown in a some river in Chappaquiddick, and cousin Skakel a rapist/murderer (15 year-old Martha Moxley) and so on, even though his conviction was overturned in 2013. So long, Camelot. It was… Read more »

Vern
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Vern

Exactly, wisdom is a by product of experience.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, I believe that the Roman politician Cicero said it first. Kennedy used it to show that he was knowledgeable in the classics.

Finnky
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@DB – Participated in early voting yesterday. Hoping to set a limit on potential damage, I voted in demo primary. After much research, they are still practically indistinguishable. On scale from 1-10, I attempted to pick candidates scoring at least negative five. To me a random cat scores zero and any dog scores a one. How the heck have we reached this point – and more importantly how do I find and support reasonable people willing to run. Clearly I (and MANY other reasonable human beings) need to become more involved – much earlier.. A few “Manchuria” Democrats could do… Read more »

Superman
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Superman

Do us all a favor and put down the bong before you post.

Vern
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Vern

It seems they are trying to get Clinton sobered up and ready to pick up where she left off last time. Bernie still flies the flag of the soviet union in his back yard, it won’t be hard to know what he wants to rename this country.