Gun Group Applauds Trump Admin. For ‘Essential’ Ruling On Gun Shops

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SAF Applauds Trump Admin. For ‘Essential’ Ruling On Gun Shops

Washington, DC – -(AmmoLand.com)- Declaring that American gun owners owe President Donald Trump a “very big thank you,” the Second Amendment Foundation today is cheering the announcement from the Department of Homeland Security defining firearms manufacturers and retailers as “essential businesses.

“Every freedom-loving American owes President Donald Trump and his administration a very big thank you for protecting our Second Amendment rights,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb in reaction to the DHS announcement.

“This is another Trump promise made and a promise kept.”

Gottlieb, who has been busy preparing lawsuits against several potential states and even local governments for ordering gun shops to close their doors during the COVID-19 crisis—defining them as “non-essential businesses” while okaying such things as breweries and marijuana shops—was delighted at the news.

“A lot of people have done incredible work this week to make it happen,” he confirmed. “A number of people, including governors and even mayors and at least one California sheriff appear to have let their personal politics get in the way of common-sense public policy. During a time of crisis, we can think of no more essential endeavor outside of health care and emergency services than businesses that enable citizens to exercise their fundamental right to keep and bear arms.

“It could be that the American public, by heading to gun shops and sporting goods stores as the Coronavirus panic spread, reminded government officials what the Second Amendment is really about,” Gottlieb observed. “Even people who never before owned a firearm rushed to buy one as the pandemic has spread. Instinctively, people headed to those places where they could buy guns and ammunition, which underscores just how essential those businesses really are.

“The president and his administration have done the right thing,” Gottlieb said. “They are dealing with a national emergency while remembering that no malady, however severe, can nullify or even temporarily suspend the exercise of a constitutionally delineated fundamental right.”

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NSSF Thanks Trump Administration for Industry’s Critical Infrastructure Designation

Department of Homeland Security includes firearm manufacturing, distribution, retail and ranges as essential critical services.

NEWTOWN, Conn. — The National Shooting Sports Foundation® (NSSF®), the trade association for the firearm and ammunition industry, is grateful for the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) inclusion of the firearm industry’s manufacturing, distribution, retail and range businesses as essential critical services that should remain open during the COVID-19 pandemic. NSSF has been working closely with the Trump Administration and DHS to convey the important role the firearm and ammunition industry performs for national security, public safety, and the ability for continued exercise of individual constitutional liberties and self-protection.

“We are deeply appreciative to the Trump Administration and Department of Homeland Security for recognizing the vital role our industry fulfills in our nation,” said Lawrence G. Keane, Senior Vice President and General Counsel for NSSF.

“We have seen over the past week hundreds of thousands, even millions of Americans choosing to exercise their right to keep and bear arms to ensure their safety and the safety of loved ones during these uncertain times. Americans must not be denied the ability to exercise that right to lawfully purchase and acquire firearms during times of emergency. This guidance from the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) is crucial to governors and local officials as they craft the orders to preserve public health.”

The firearm industry continues to provide small arms to the U.S. military, even during times of crisis. The national security mission remains and U.S. Armed Forces, with rare exceptions, rely upon domestically manufactured small arms. Most law enforcement departments rely on local firearm retailers to supply them with their firearms to perform the critical duty of providing for community safety. Law-abiding individuals also rely on these retailers for the ability to purchase their firearms and ammunition. It is also where retailers are able to explain the responsibilities of safe firearm ownership and storage and new gun owners are able to access ranges to learn to safely handle their firearms.


National Shooting Sports FoundationAbout National Shooting Sports Foundation

The National Shooting Sports Foundation is the trade association for the firearms industry. Its mission is to promote, protect and preserve hunting and the shooting sports.

Formed in 1961, NSSF has a membership of thousands of manufacturers, distributors, firearms retailers, shooting ranges, sportsmen's organizations, and publishers nationwide. For more information, log on to www.nssf.org.




GOA and GOC Thank the Trump Administration for Designating Firearms Industry as Essential

USA – President Trump’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) has revised its guidance of critical infrastructure to include the firearms industry as part of the Essential Critical Infrastructure. This revision comes shortly after Gun Owners of America (GOA) and Gun Owners of California (GOC) sent a letter to the administration urging inclusion of the firearms industry.

The guidance specifically includes “[w]orkers supporting the operation of firearm or ammunition product manufacturers, retailers, importers, distributors, and shooting ranges” as part of the Essential Critical Infrastructure.

GOA Senior Vice President Erich Pratt said, “It is very encouraging to see CISA include the firearms industry as essential. In these uncertain times, the ability to protect yourself — and to acquire firearms, magazines and ammunition — should not be ignored. GOA/GOC thanks the Trump Administration for listening to our letter and ensuring that Americans can protect themselves in these difficult times.”


Gun Owners of America GOA logoErich Pratt, or another GOA spokesperson, is available for interviews. Gun Owners of America is a nonprofit grassroots lobbying organization dedicated to protecting the right to keep and bear arms without compromise. GOA represents over two million members and activists.

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TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago

Well, Flatt and have fully devolved into delusion within their own lies.

After repeated efforts to deliberately lie, then refuse to provide any evidence as proof of their words beyond their own opinion, they have now chosen (After wet himself and had almost all of his comments taken down last night) to engage in a quasi-mutual self masturbatory event of continually agreeing that the lie they are propagating (Which was already disproven) is the reality that they must desperately cling to.

You cant find entertainment or creativity like this anywhere in Hollywood. lol 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Alright. So we have two individuals here who have made personal attacks on me in an attempt to slander/libel my rep. Neither has been able to cite any evidence, and both have resorted to crude name calling. I’m stating this because I am a Constitutionalist, and I think their comments should stay up and visible. Their actions have violated Ammoland Comment policy, which I will cite a link to below. However, because these two were so childish and at no time could provide a single piece of evidence, I think their comments should be forcibly locked on this page and… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago


Wow, so now trying to lie and claim I have problems with him, when he and I have a mutual respect for each other. As shown in that link. Yeah….

Kinda like you lying before and claiming Dave in Fairfax said something he didn’t, before you lied about saying you hadn’t said it was the same person I referred to.

So perhaps we can ask ammoland if there is a way to recover removed comments.. 🙂 Maybe see what is being hidden. How about it?

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Whoops, looks like the comment this was responding to just disappeared as I wrote it and hit post… 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Don’t worry folks, I have a feeling will come back tomorrow and pretend this is all unexpected and he has no idea what I am talking about. He will make some claims how this is made up, but wont dare look at the link where it shows he has done this before…..

Poor guy is loosing his acorns…. lol

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Oh, the best part is, if he does come back and try that, he forgot about that little “Bell” icon next to the post comment button…..

See, when you hit that, any reply from another user gets sent to your email courtesy of [email protected], so if he never truly sent any of those messages tonight, there should be no email evidence of it in my inbox that I would be able to do a screen capture of and post here..

As I said, He’s a special kind of stupid.. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Hmmm, after ordered me to be here early, saying how Sorry I would be for what he was going to do to me this morning……..

Kinda looks like the kindergarten bully who demanded someone be in the park for a fight is a no show, possibly still curled up in a fetal position crying his eyes out in soaking wet pants at the back of his closet.. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago

Ok Everyone Lets set the stage….. @wjd told a lie, and connected that lie to an instance that I referenced which occurred a month and a half ago. In otherwords, before the dust-up I had with @wjd Flatt. In my comment, I reiterated the instance as having happened between myself, @wjd, and another member who I chose at that moment to recognize as one of our more respected and principled members without giving his name.. At this, @wjd immediately jumped on it making a claim that this same member I was referencing accused me of lunacy and drug use in… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

1. Rowboat @StWayne – I see we are getting some down votes ; I didn’t know that Northam read this site ! ‍ 2. StWayne Yep! It’s monitored. It has its detractors. I NEVER write according to some Facebook wanna be voting system, that’s just plain stupid. Otherwise, you’d only ever say what “they” want you saying ’cause you’re all about dem likes! 3. Dave in Fairfax Rowboat and StWayne, Don’t sweat the down votes, they have NO effect on anything, it’s just a part of the system. At most they just show how active the thread is. NOBODY gets… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Rev, Thanks for re-quoting it.
I just went through my last 600 comments trying to find ANYTIME I suggested that you might have been drunk or on drugs because not only couldn’t I remember doing it, I couldn’t imagine having done it. Then I went and searched on the word drunk. Lots of threads but nope. As we both know, it didn’t happen.
My eyes are sore, but it was useful reading. I realized that I never got back to you on something. YES, of course you can use my comment about principles being prickly things.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago

@Dave in Fairfax Thanks, and I know you didn’t. @wjd was deliberately lying about it out of hatred for me, because his repeated actions over the last six months have damaged his reputation here, and I’m the one he believes responsible instead of taking responsibility himself. Dealing with those two last night, easy as pie. Sorry it ended up being a lot for you to read though. Sad as it is to see though, @wjd Flatt has chosen to follow the same route as @wjd. I honestly thought he was a better man than that from my previous dealings with… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago

@wjd Hey Kettle, this is pot…. Did you know youre black? Will, your idiotic little opinion means and counts for nothing… You have done a far better job displaying mental devience, with much more lasting success than your accusations would ever have.. 🙂 And now, since last night when you let yourself get publicly bent over and resoundingly spanked to the point where you ran off crying, now you attack others just because they are willing to stand up and agree with facts.. Let me fill you in a little about @Dave in Fairfax.. I’m fairly certain he doesn’t require… Read more »

ShooterOne
ShooterOne
5 months ago

I still don’t understand why those who infringe on the Second Amendment, or for that matter any of the amendments or the constitution are not punished. I wish he had gone farther and made an executive order that overruled the gun grabbing socialists. We shouldn’t need one.

ARM UP AND CARRY ON.

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
5 months ago

Great, now how do we get this accomplished on the state, county and city level? There are MANY socialist led states that are still not allowing people to own or buy firearms/ammo.

Arm up, carry on.

American Patriot
American Patriot
5 months ago

The pandemic isn’t over, maybe the coming Apocalypse will do us a favor

JPM
JPM
5 months ago

Outstanding! Now if we could just do something about the idiot Governors (Like NM Gov. Grisham) and equally moronic mayors across the country who are ignoring the ruling from Washington and making their own determinations of what is essential.

BowserB
BowserB
5 months ago

Thanks to the president for following the lead of a few states like Texas and whacking the knuckles with a ruler of a bunch more states, counties, and cities who took this opportunity to limit the rights of citizens. Almost ironically, the cities and counties who sought to prevent citizens from arming themselves, are the same ones who opened the jails and let criminals go free. Right out of the Communist playbook. Let me especially extend the middle finger to Houston and Harris County Texas on that one!

StWayne
StWayne
5 months ago

President Trump will be remembered as one of the great ones: as well he should. What’s not covered in the article, however, is whether or not those gun stores and shops ordered to close, will be allowed to reopen? Will they even be compensated for lost revenue? And will those who ordered them shut be prosecuted for knowingly violating, the 2A of the Constitution? This will be a test of America’s virtue.

BowserB
BowserB
5 months ago
Reply to  StWayne

He blew it on the $2 trillion pork fest, though. He had an opportunity to veto and send it back plus itemize for the nation the socialist and self serving items in the bill created by Democrats to dared the Republican Senate to put a poison pill the the bill, while they laced it with poison throughout. He could have exposed Nancy Pelosi and the socialist criminals in the house and sissies in the senate on national TV. Instead he caved, and we will pay the price with inflation followed by recession for ten years…if we’re lucky.

Tionico
Tionico
5 months ago
Reply to  BowserB

Didjya get the vote count? Both turncoat houses passed the madness with a veto-proof margin. He could have wasted the time and enerty by saying NO WAY and sent it back for the clowns to parade it round the ring once more and revote and carry it.Hopefully American voters will begin to stir sufficneintly to take a look at who voted FOR the good ol buddy bailouts. And not vote for THEM next November.

StWayne
StWayne
5 months ago
Reply to  StWayne

Yep! It’s called “another term!”

Papa
Papa
5 months ago
Reply to  StWayne

We are still open in Az.Lines a to purchase but that is okay. Some have planned ahead.

Camotim
Camotim
5 months ago

Thank God for President Trump. If the Baffy Biitch of Benghazi were POTUS we’d already be in a shooting civil war.

BowserB
BowserB
5 months ago
Reply to  Camotim

Like Neville Chamberlain letting the Nazis have Czechoslovakia, he hasn’t fixed anything by appeasing the Democrats’ pork fest. He’s only postponed the inevitable. Probably not a shooting war, but inflationary recession like the 1970’s will be along soon.

Papa
Papa
5 months ago
Reply to  Camotim

Scary dream I can’t shake, Biden takes the baffy bitch as a his running mate and then I wake up in January and trump has won.

Grigori
Grigori
5 months ago
Reply to  Camotim

Exactly, and the Deep State knew that, therefore they selected Trump who, with his beautiful words, hypnotized 50% of those who were ready to fight and retake our government back from the Deep State into believing he is going to fix things for us when he instead helps the DS agenda move forward.

MajorMike
MajorMike
5 months ago

Thank you Mr. President!

Garyowen
Garyowen
5 months ago

Ahhhhh…….that sweet sound of guns firing in the morning…

Tionico
Tionico
5 months ago
Reply to  Garyowen

And the equally sweet smell of powder in the air………

nobodyuknow
nobodyuknow
5 months ago

Thank you, Mr. President, for following the U.S. Constitution. I hope that Alex Gottlieb at SAF shoves it right up the donkey of people like Gavin Newsom In The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia!

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago

Guys, I know you wanna dismiss this advsory as if it’s worthless, but it’s actually a BIG deal and a pretty good piece of news. Trump just declared that the gun industry is ESSENTIAL TO NATIONAL SECURITY, ESSENTIAL TO THE ECONOMY, ESSENTIAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. That the gun industry – including retailers – are CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. While we may all despise big government, as a former government employee, I recognize and appreciate the language used here. “Essential Critical Infrastructure” is NOT some BS newspeak for an Orwellian program. It means that states like Commiefornia and cities like San Francisco CANNOT… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt They are upset because it doesn’t have the power of law, the states and cities are not REQUIRED to follow it. Admittedly, the executive branch cannot unilaterally pass laws on its own accord. The problem with what Trump put out is that it is all just a bunch of window dressing at this point. Looks good from the outside, but its there to keep you focused on that as opposed to what is on the inside. Yes, Hillary would have been bad, but Donald is not saving the country either. His spending plans or willfulness to engage in… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Well I am not here to conflate issues. True, debt spending is bad, and not acceptable. But that is not the subject of this article. Some people just want to pile on Trump, because TDS. And I’m aware that libtards aren’t the only one with TDS.

We’ve just been given a tool here. We should be picking it up & using it (and the 2A orgs that actually get shit done are doing just that now), not pissing on it & walking away. That’s all I have to say.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt Yes, Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. There is also Trump Sycophancy Syndrome that is just as real, and there are some here who have it. Now you put up an excellent statement previously. “Are you saying that ‘just because’ of an emergency, the feds should force themselves on the states?” Bingo! We don’t just “Do something!” like a bunch of lemmings cry out for at the first sign of a crisis, but we also should not expect this to be a fix for everything because it is still just an “Advisory”. You have already acknowledged that we don’t… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Everything you just said? Hard agree!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Well, Im just about to head for work.. Looks like is still pitching a fit because of me. It appears because you were in agreement with what was said, you have been targeted too.

Hope you have a good day WF, I’ll catch up with you later.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Have a good one, Revelator. I don’t care what snowflake downvoots what’s said. I’ll always come down on the side of truth even if it’s uncomfortable or inconvenient!

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Will I didn’t think it was you, because we’ve agreed on many issues. He’s flailing blindly at times, blaming others whom I believe aren’t responsible. It’s probably one of the trolls: moe, clark, PUD, or some other. They’re so butthurt one can’t help but think they’re just libtards camped out in their momma’s basement.

Now that I mentioned some of them by name, watch them turn up to cast insults this way…

Knute
Knute
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

It’s all they know. The butthurt tards. Far worse than retarded. Calling them retarded is an insult to my really retarded acquaintances. They’d do their retarded honk laugh while pointing at these guys. If they could read, I mean 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Knute

@Knute The word retard is one I reserve for those who engage in willful stupidity (ignorance by choice). It is someone who does something by choice (often for the sake of their own opinion) which is in direct opposition to truth or reality, and continues to do so out of spite or obstinance after they have been made aware of the error behind it. It is not something I apply to those who are suffering from a clinical mental condition or syndrome. (And yes it is all they know since they refuse to argue based on evidence, and they have… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd If it truly was not you this time, you have my apologies. I have watched where you have done that to others in the past during real time, when it was you that was on and it was obvious you were doing it. Again, if not this time then I am willing to admit I was wrong and apologize. However, Calling me a “POS” or a Moron does not change the fact that you have engaged in spiteful behavior for no other reason than that you argued against facts, took a position contrary to the constitution, and got upset… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Any evidence to prove what I have written at any time is not factual, any direct quotes from me with links to the article on which I said them?

🙂 Would love to see evidence that it is Crap, and not just your opinion when you are upset at having lost an argument.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Yes, less than a couple months ago if memory serves right. But we are ALL entitled to disagree, yet some people think they’re ALWAYS right no matter what. When that happens, I’ll call BS regardless of the butthurt it induces.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt I don’t hold grudges. The standard is calling BS regardless of the butthurt that ensues, and what I called you out for was a statement that ran contrary to the Constitutional principles you have in the past stated you want to defend. Yet here I was agreeing with and backing up what you said.. Ok? So based on everything I have said so far, I’ve also proven through my actions. What I pointed out was a lie before was the attack you precipitated on me at that time, that I did not know who John Mark was and… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

I dont have perfect freaking recall, nor do I index and cross refence every post made here. I did not know that you had posted anything from John Mark, so if I said something contrary to what you did it was from a deficit of knowledge.

Just because someone lacks knowledge doesn’t make them a liar, and so consequently you shouldn’t call them a liar. I think that’s why you rub people the wrong way at times, Rev.

My $.02

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt That is why when it happened I offered to post the link that showed I had, and if I did asked if you would take back what you had said. I had tried to give you a point to say “Ok, this was a mistake, we have to agree based on the facts.” I wouldn’t have held it over you, because you are right, when someone lacks knowledge they are not at fault. It is when they have a chance to acquire knowledge, or when it is given to them and they refuse to acknowledge it that it… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt I have an idea, two quotes I want to show you. 1. “I think everyone needs to take a chill pill, know that all speech is free speech, and if it has you butthurt, rub some salve on it and move on.” 2. “This is ultimately about something a lot bigger than free speech; and incidentally it’s the Left that’s always suppressing free speech. ” Both are statements you made. The man who said in agreement with the Constitution that all speech is free speech and must be protected….. That is a man I would fight beside and… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Less than two minutes, a down vote with no reply….

I don’t think it was Will Flatt who did it. There is another who was here who has a history of doing it, and it may likely be him… 🙂 Maybe if he hadn’t been publicly castrated by arguing with me previously, perhaps he’d have the balls to comment.

Well, off to work.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

I’m coming at this 2 hours after the fact, so no it couldn’t have been me….

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– That was written more for the casual observer than Mr. know-it-all. If anyone wants to know where I stand on issues, reference the following diagram:

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Also, this guy never accused anyone of being a commie who wasn’t a commie. Everyone he fingered admitted it after his death.
Commies are like jihadis. They deserve no quarter and should never be given any.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– I’m sure we will hear from Mr. Know-it-all soon enough on said diagram, whereupon he will proceed to pontificate from his holier-than-thou pedestal about how that violates his ‘religion’. I’d like to see him try to defend the indefensible, I’m gonna go get the popcorn ready…

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Yes, and watch him try to insinuate that I said that commies shouldn’t have free speech, even though those words never passed over my keyboard. If anything, I believe they shouldn’t have special privileges over others and that I shouldn’t have to be forced to endure their propaganda.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

The epitome of hypocrisy: demanding evidence from everyone else whilst never offering any from one’s self.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– I know you will and that’s why I said I was gonna make popcorn LOL

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt

Make a bunch. 🙂 I would gladly accept a back and forth with , examining facts and evidence over positions.

Heck, I’ve only been trying to get him to stop running away from such a thing since September 2019. lol In fact, we can make it an event, and have a three judge panel. Lets say you, Dave in Fairfax, and perhaps Heed the Call-up as judges. Winner take all. Think you can arrange it where wouldn’t back out?

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Oh, might pester and needle me huh? lol 🙂 Kinda like all the times I asked for evidence backing up your statements about myself or others, only to have you scream “It’s my opinion”, and watch you run away refusing to prove what you said (9th Commandment, don’t bear false witness) Or how about the time you launched into insults at me, and when one of the more respected members here at ammoland told you how you were wrong, you then began whining and crying to him about how it wasn’t you it was myself that was being unfair… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@wjd So Dave in Fairfax told me to get off the Drugs/Alcohol??? Do you have a quote and a link to the page? I’d love to see it, cause it sure sounds like one I missed. 🙂 See you accuse me of being disturbed, but you’ve never actually provided evidence for claims you have made. It’s always “Just because @wjd Says so” That’s opinion, not fact, not evidence. And yes, most times you wet yourself and claim I’m not worth your time, try to run away, and then end up coming back because the idea that I am showing a… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Then posting the Link shouldn’t be a problem for you now should it? Lets see it.. Come on? Oh, let me guess. You are going to say you don’t have to….. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Ah so no link then? No quote? Perhaps because you made it up. lol 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

No, you have shown you are quite capable of telling yourself in the mirror over and over again that you are mommy’s special little princess, and that no matter what anyone else does you will always be so.

Since you apparently lack understanding as well, I wasn’t asking you to prove it to yourself, I was asking you to prove it to me, publicly….. Something you are avoiding having to do, almost as if you are afraid to do so because what you said is a LIE… 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


If I was told, you should be able to post the link. Come on…. What are you afraid of? 🙂

FYI, never drank, never smoked, never used any elicit drug. My vice was always burning gunpowder. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Still an insistence that it is there, but you can’t show it. I’m looking at the page right now, at each of Dave In Fairfax’s comments.. 🙂 Guess what, what you claim is not in there. Come on, post the link. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@wjd Just did…. here is what you said. “@little rev,that respected member you’re talking about was also the respected member who told you to get off the drugs and/or alcohol when you were insulting WF a couple months ago ” The respected member I told Will Flatt about was Dave in Fairfax.. In your comment, you said the respected member I was talking about, Dave in Fairfax. I am also looking at the two pages from Will Flatt’s argument with me from the end of February. Not once did Dave in Fairfax jump in there. Funny.. You linked it to… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@wjd EXACTLY…… 🙂 I said Dave in Fairfax was the respected member I talked about. You linked what you are claiming was said by the same respected member I referenced as having told you that you were wrong after you whined to them. You didn’t specify someone else, you said it was the same member I was talking about… Who happens to be Dave in Fairfax.. Now you are trying to back out of it. You lied.. Plain and simple, and you were in such a hurry you stuffed your foot in your mouth. Quite the feat considering the orifice… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


No, you were just dumb enough to say it was the same person I said was the respected member I referenced… Who happens to be Dave in Fairfax.

Again, here is your direct quote.

From
“@little rev,that respected member you’re talking about was also the respected member who told you to get off the drugs and/or alcohol when you were insulting WF a couple months ago. “

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Oh, you mean from the comment which no longer is visible?

Gee, wouldn’t it be convenient for it to disappear after the fact so you could claim it was never there in the first place…. Hmmmm…. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

So, you think there is no evidence to show that huh?

So, if comments cannot just disappear, then there should be no evidence of people other than myself directly replying to them… After all, if they were replying to you, and their comments are still up but yours are mysteriously missing, that would show some foul play on your part now wouldn’t it?

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Did you really think just by removing things it would hide that it was there? That it would be a solution to combat against someone who uses evidence weighed against your words?

You’re a special kind of stupid aren’t you…..

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


No, but it does include posts other people have made to comments you have written but are mysteriously no longer there… And I can show where it has happened before…

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


You know what you said, but apparently what went through your mind wasn’t what you typed out on your keyboard.

You connected it to the person I referenced. Wow…. And you expect me to go away? When I can read you like a book and beat you like a drum? lol 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Let me guess….. More of your comments going to turn up no longer visible because you trapped yourself into a lie? Another instance of you spraying yourself and showing that yellow streak on your back rather than admit you were wrong?

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt Want to walk back that statement? I have in the past to you directly provided citation of outside sources, including the webpage for Propertarianism when you wanted to talk about that, direct quotes to your own comments with links to the pages you said them on, direct citation of quotes from our founding fathers, the US Constitution, relevant court cases, and the Declaration of independence. To others I have provided external video and article citation, at times providing time stamps for what is said when in the video. So how have I never offered any evidence? Do you… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

You see there you go again acting like a damn know-it-all, demanding facts/evidence/citations from all you pick arguments from, acting as though you’ve offered up the same, and acting as though everyone else hasn’t.

Get off your damn horse. I don’t have to give you shit, neither does Will, and we don’t march to your drum. You can throw out-of-context shit in people’s face all day but that doesn’t make you right, Mr. know-it-all. Your shit stinks like anyone else’s, so quit acting like it don’t!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt. Ok, so am I to take it that you are refusing to provide any evidence that I have not before cited evidence when dealing with people? “You see there you go again acting like a damn know-it-all, demanding facts/evidence/citations from all you pick arguments from, acting as though you’ve offered up the same, and acting as though everyone else hasn’t.” Here, on the following link in the argument I had with you, in the comment thread where I went through explaining “Propertarianism” I quoted from the site connected to Curt Doolittle’s work, https://propertarianism.com/.. I provided outside sources as… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

No, I’m ignoring you, Rev.

I’m not playing your stupid game where you throw what people say back in their faces, call it “evidence”, then demand “facts and evidence” in return, while never accepting what people have to say. You say you believe in free speech, so I’m gonna exercise my free speech, and tell you I think you’re a horse’s sphincter. I hereby rename you Mr. Ed’s Rectum.

Here, have a bag, I think you’ll find this very yummy.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt

Sounds like an excuse due to your not being able to show anything, kind of like what you said in the first place was a lie…. Imagine that… 🙂

And on top of that, the only thing you were able to do against me was call me names… You and turned into Joe freaking Biden! How hilarious… Get pressed by someone with evidence, you curse at them, make references to horse anatomy, puff your chest out, and when that doesn’t intimidate them you try to make an exit while yelling over your shoulder…. LOL

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Nope, I meant it when I said I was ignoring you, and the only lying sack of sh!t here is YOU. Have a Nice Day!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt There is proof that you lied… Interestingly, you cant (and refuse to) show any. By the way, great job ignoring me, having to tell me publicly like an ill tempered 4 year old stomping his foot and turning up his nose… You chose to lie, when evidence was given proving it was a lie you chose to lie again while throwing a hissyfit. You abandoned honor and integrity out of fear of others recognizing you made a mistake and correcting yourself. Congratulations.. You did a much better job of showing everyone how to act like a petulant child… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Sorry, not taking your bait, you can troll all night, go blow.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Really, because it looks like you just did….. Oh you are doing a wonderful job of “Ignoring me”. lol

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt


Hmmm, I’m not sure you can give away your spot there Will… After all, you did work so hard to earn it. 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Yeah, I’ve got NOTHING for that little piece of bull feces. The fact that he keeps prodding proves he’s the liar, the troll, the one devoid of valid arguments.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
” the one devoid of valid arguments.” lol
So the only one here who has cited outside sources, who has provided evidence while two butt hurt crybabies named and Flatt screamed “WE WONT PROVIDE EVIDENCE!”….

That is the person you think people other than yourself will believe is lying…. Well, maybe they’ll want to know what hallucinatory agents you might be using to reach that level of delusion.. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt


Still no evidence or citation from you yet Will.. 🙂 Instead of worrying about rope, you might want to stop digging, or you wont have enough rope to climb out.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Do you hear something? I keep hearing an indistinct buzzing. I don’t know if it’s a blow fly or what. It’s probably The Rectumator being a horse’s sphincter, but I put his dumb ass on mute.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Might be the whistling of air blowing through your ears.

And oh, would you look at that, Uncle Joe is back with more Horse anatomy… Guess that makes Hillary Clinton with his server wipe. lol

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Yeah he’s just proven he’s a troll, devoid of any legitimate argument whatsoever, and a fake patriot. All that talk about MUH FREE SPEECH and he degenerates to what he’s saying now. Oh how the “mighty” have fallen. F#cking hypocrite.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt Lets see the evidence. 🙂 See, free speech is wonderful. Not once have I ever demanded you be kicked off of ammoland, or not allowed to comment.. I just use my speech to show what you wrote was a lie.. Perhaps you can provide a direct link to anywhere on Ammoland where I demanded your right to free speech be taken away. Let me guess…. You’re going to refuse, and say something about how the proof is already there (Even though you cant show it). Congratulations. The only hypocrite that shows is yourself. (Oh, I cant wait to… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

LOL yeah, Will!! I still hear an indistinct buzzing, though. I think it’s definitely a blow fly.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Still waiting on that evidence. 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Probably, it comes in a spray. PFFFFFFFFFT!!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Still no evidence huh? Almost like it doesn’t exist.. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt


I don’t let others define my life as a failure or success. Only I make that call.

Then again, that was an attack coming from a man who is supposed to be twice my age, acting like kid less than half my age.. All because he got caught in a lie and couldn’t provide evidence.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Self-examination is not a character trait shared by trolls & aholes. If it were capable of reflection on its’ life choices, he would’ve moved out of his momma’s basement 30 years ago. Alas, he’s gonna keep rolling troll bait using the only 3 tools he knows how to use. He fails at failing.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
I’m amazed you seem to think you know exactly where I live, and simply by saying so that it magically becomes true as if by fairy mushroom dust… lol 🙂

Then again, aside from you not having any evidence to support your claim, you also have not provided any evidence as to your residence.. You seem to know a lot about basements… So where do you live? 🙂

I love how scared I have you two, to where you cant even post a link to any direct quote as proof of your new lie… 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Poor little troll is still trying & failing, this is comedy gold!
Damn I’m glad I made some popcorn!!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Really, how so? Any evidence? 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

The little blow fly / troll is sounding a helluva lot like Mad Maxine Waters now. The incessant buzzing of
Any evidence?
Any evidence?
Any evidence?
Any evidence?
Any evidence?
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TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
We didn’t ask to see your portrait..

And yet, if I asked you that many times to show evidence, and you have been unable to? Pretty much what I already expected since you lied..

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Flatt

O my gosh! I’m so sorry!!

I didn’t realize she was your wife…….

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Yeah it’s killing it that we ignore it, mock and ridicule it, and converse between the two of us. Poor little blow fly.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Hey, I’m just trying to keep you going.. 🙂

The only individual you are doing damage to is yourself. What’s even funnier is that you are letting me keep you here doing it. If you want to spend the next 5 hours non stop at this, I’m game. 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Sleep well and wake with a smile; I know I will!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

And yep… Upon hearing how long I was willing to carry this on, there they go.. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Boy for two guys who were totally done with me, and going to be ignoring me…. You sure spend a lot of time focusing on and thinking of me… lol 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Will, Little Blow Fly Troll is frantically begging and the more I ignore it, the more crazed it becomes. ROFL!!

Comedy gold.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt


Oh, I plan on being a thorn in your side for the next two years buddy…. 🙂 Why worry about anyone else when I have two perfect little lying weasels who are so easy to go against?

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Is it audacious if it is true? 🙂 Flatt stated I post no evidence in return. Currently, there is a comment awaiting moderation to him with two links, one to the article showing me posting evidence to him a month ago, which disproves his statement, and second, with a direct link to the website and evidence I was citing.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Why would I disagree with history? After the fall of the berlin wall and Soviet Russia, documents from the KGB and GRU confirmed those McCarthy went after as being tied to the USSR.

So does agreeing with history equate to being a know it all?

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

I never said you would disagree with history, Rev. Your strawman argument is duly noted and rejected.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Hi !
Mmmm garlic!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt To the above position of your diagram and your addendum post noting McCarthy, since you tied it to the first with “Also”…. “@wjd – I’m sure we will hear from Mr. Know-it-all soon enough on said diagram, whereupon he will proceed to pontificate from his holier-than-thou pedestal about how that violates his ‘religion’. I’d like to see him try to defend the indefensible, I’m gonna go get the popcorn ready…” Or did you not mean the response to @wjd to be in denial of what you said? It’s not a strawman, it was linking two comments you posted… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@Rev – There you go again. Pasting shit together and acting like yours doesnt stink, Mr. Know-it-all.

And yes you can deny the reality that you made a strawman argument, but as you say facts are facts and the fact is, you can’t unring your own bell.

Your verbal diarrhea is catching up with you.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Yes, he slings shit, and thinks his doesn’t stink. I just told him as much, and to stick it.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

He’s busy with copypasta trying to link together multiple unrelated trains of thought to create something new out of thin air. He’s so busy doing that…

He also has called you out as running away from him, but oddly he’s not addressing you directly. It’s as if he wants to maintain an illusion that you won’t engage him when the opposite is true. We will see if he addresses you, if only in a pathetic attempt to disprove my statement right here.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Right. Revelator has outed himself as a world-class hypocrite. His verbal diarrhea is a bit much. He’s also, from what I can tell, a pseudo-intellectual.

I think I’m done with him as well… I’ve also noted he can’t help but have the last word, too. Just wait, you’ll see.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt

“Revelator has outed himself as a world-class hypocrite.”

Ok, can you show contradicting statements I have made? I asked for evidence for a claim you made, you have not provided anything that proves that claim.

In fact, You accused me of copying and pasting as a means of acting like you didn’t have to.

“There you go again. Pasting shit together and acting like yours doesnt stink, Mr. Know-it-all. ”

I believe that was the quote. So Why no evidence? 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

There you go again. Couldn’t resist, could you?? No I will not do your legwork for you. Read your own verbal diarrhea, there’s your “evidence”. Take that “evidence” and shove it where the sun dont shine. And I dare you to keep going for the last word, you’re proving my point. Good night!!!!!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt

Ok, so its actually not evidence, it’s just Flatt’s opinion, without evidence…. So because you couldn’t argue against what was said, and the fact that outside sources like me providing links such as https://propertarianism.com/ to you when I cite their info, What you said was indeed a falsehood, and you are now upset cause you cannot show that it isn’t a lie.

Got it.. 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

– Yeah he’s a freaking legend… in his own mind.
He also can’t resist. He did it again, demanding ‘EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE!!’ Just like you predicted.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt and Will

Oh what a prediction! LOL I’ve only been stating that Evidence over rules opinion for several years… Whoooo Boy! Yeah, never saw that one coming. 🙂

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

No, unlike Rev, I don’t keep detailed records of who says what on a given date/time, because I have a life. He is free to remain ensconced in his basement/cave.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
If your memories are short, it wasn’t a few months, it was the end of February.

Already cited the page in question. So since you are both here going back and forth, does that denote that you then are in your basement? 🙂 So for a couple of hours while I was at work “Having a Life”, you two went back and forth when I wasn’t here to respond…. Because you have lives…… Right……

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt


Still waiting for you to try and prove it publicly. Looking at the page right now.. Hmmm, guess what is missing? 🙂

Looks like can’t do it.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Ok, lets see it. Post the link. 🙂

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator


Uh oh.. Looks like the little crybaby is getting agitated.. Just a flat insult this time instead of trying to insist his lie actually exists… 🙂

Can’t post the link and he is running out of options to try and shut me up…. lol

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Well, you haven’t actually shown anything, or provided outside sources… And each time I have asked for them on your replies, you magically seem to avoid showing them, or state how you are somehow done with me…. lol

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

How is it a fact? Show the work. 2 + 2 = 4 because the work can be shown. Now Will Flatt said something about Godhood, but last time I checked it is evidence that proves fact, not ’s opinion.

Lets see the evidence.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

– See, what did I tell you? He took the bait. This idiot has only three hat tricks, that’s take anything you say and throw it back at you (that’s his “evidence”), demand evidence from you, and ALWAYS go for the last word like a petulant little child.

OK, I’m officially bored. Have a great night!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt

Hmmm, 4th, 5th, or 6th time tonight? Boy that is one long good night..

So you deliberately lied about me. You are now feigning incredulity at the fact that I have been commenting non stop as if it is some “Aha! Gotcha” moment.. were you going for an over acting Oscar award?

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flat
I saw who was online and posting at the time, which is why I noted that it was not.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Rev, if you’re gonna quote me, quote the whole quote. Leftists are statists and there are more issues that are part of a bigger picture than just the Bill of Rights. They’re an implacable enemy dedicated to the destruction of all rights and even killing their enemies to silence them. That’s what I was alluding to. Context matters. If you limit yourself to only the Rights specifically enumerated in the BoR, then you’re ignoring a lot of OTHER Rights. Also… while your love of the Constitution is admirable & absolutely worthy of emulation, you can turn people off, Rev, by… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt “Context matters. ” Yes it does, which is why when the argument we had was going on I cited the pages to which you had made comments when I quoted you, and asked you about it. “If you limit yourself to only the Rights specifically enumerated in the BoR, then you’re ignoring a lot of OTHER Rights.” I have spoken a great deal on unenumerated rights and the protections of those rights specifically under the 9th amendment. The bill of rights does cover that, ironically…. However, what was at discussion when you offered the second quote was the… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@Rev ….Can you be any more all over the map?

Agreeing with me doesn’t change the fact you put yourself out there as a know-it-all who can never be wrong.

You know who really isn’t wrong? Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Chew on that.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt “Agreeing with me doesn’t change the fact you put yourself out there as a know-it-all who can never be wrong.” Ah, now there is a strawman… I’ve never said I could never be wrong. In fact, I’ve been quite clear that I am more than willing to own up to the fact if someone can provide factual evidence which shows I am. What I have said is that I don’t argue an opinion against Facts. If you always argue what fact shows, then your argument is never going to be wrong because you are simply agreeing with the… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@Rev – and my mockery of you went right over your head. Bravo.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Except is it really mocking me, or is it showing you just trying to throw everything against the wall and hoping it sticks?

See, I’m not flipping all over the place. My argument has been the same consistent position for over five years here on ammoland. It hasn’t changed. 🙂 That’s why attempts at talking down to me with a “BTW, just saying” doesn’t work on me.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Oh so now you claim godhood and know my intentions better than I do? Yes I mock you. You still claim to know it all, and if your position here is consistent, it’s because you keep reiterating the same BS. I’m not talking down to you, how could I? Not when you’ve elevated yourself above everyone else here, Mr. know-it-all. Like I said, you think your shit doesnt stink. But you know what stinks?? Your rank hypocrisy… and your pathological need to have the last word. Have a good night!

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Where did I claim Godhood? I certainly didn’t. lol 🙂

And yet still you have not shown one instance where anything I said was an act of hypocrisy.. No contradicting quotes… No links to it. Just a rather weak attempt to belittle someone you don’t want to have to prove your statements to into silence.

So by all means, if you must go, do so. Run off to bed. That’s twice you have lied about me, and then when asked for proof to that point have said “Im done” and left because you couldn’t show proof.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

@Rev – In assuming to know what my thinking was, of course, but you can do no wrong, can you? And you still feel the need to get the last word, which proves how weak you really are. I dont have to show you jack schitt when your own words condemn you, for the whole readership to see right here. You are proving my point for me. I dont have to jump to your command, and if you really think you’re that entitled, then you are truly pathetic. Ok, for the 3rd time, GOOD NIGHT. Go ahead & prove my… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

@wjd Flatt “Ok, for the 3rd time, GOOD NIGHT. Go ahead & prove my point and go for that LAST WORD, like a petulant child.” Ok, Hypocrisy in point…. Petulant children, demanding “You have to shut up because if you comment again it means you lose.. I dare you!” Oh yeah, that makes total sense.. So you cant show one single side by side quote of statements I have made that are contrary to each other…. Seems like if it were true, it’d be an easy thing to do without the whole temper tantrum. By the by, this may seem… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Ok, how is it twisting and bending? Lets see you show your work.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt


Some questions for you..

1. Several of your comments have been removed recently, including ones which would not trigger moderation. Have you been removing them, or is it an administrator doing it?

2. If you are removing them yourself, what reason do you have for doing so?

Just out of curiosity…

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Interesting… 🙂

Someone just downvoted every single comment I made here(Currently showing only -1) And yet, they didn’t have the balls to offer a reply to anything I said. lol

Almost as if that person knows they have zero evidence to back up what they say, and are afraid of me. How lovely. 🙂

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
5 months ago

I must be missing something. As I read the ADVISORY, it has no power of law. It back pedals on the 2A and says that everything is up to the local officials. It isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago

in Fairfax

Well…. In some areas experiencing a TP shortage, it might have some value there.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Rev, I guess at that point it wouldn’t be a Whitepaper anymore.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
5 months ago

in Fairfax

And it would smell about the same as it reads.

Papa
Papa
5 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Papa in Prescott Az. Will trade 2 rolls of TP for a box of kleenix ( non lotion of course)

Superman
Superman
5 months ago

‘Holly’ Grail? Is that a Christmas plant?

Superman
Superman
5 months ago

But, but, but, the POTUS meant well; that’s all that matters, correct? NOPE!

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
5 months ago

I see no language that “backpedals”, Dave. Moreover, we cry foul when the federal government assumes power over the states in contravention of the Constitution. Are you saying that ‘just because’ of an emergency, the feds should force themselves on the states?

You are dismissing an important development out of hand, which I believe is a mistake on your part.

Tionico
Tionico
5 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

In this case I do not see FedGov “forcing itself” on the states. I see states rebeling against the very COnstitution each one of them ratified and agreed to as a condition of becoming a state. They agreed that Constitution would be BINDING upon that state and her people. Some would have Lincoln sainted for his unlawful invasioin of a foreign nation, the FORMER states wjho decided they no longer wanted to remain with the rest, based on changes in the terms of that agreement. Once they had left, they were no longer bound by the “Supreme Law of the… Read more »