Democrats Predict Forced Citizen Disarmament will be a Winner This Time Around

If Biden and Harris win, history will require each of us as gun owners to make a terrible choice. (Giffords/Facebook)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Democrats [are showing an] unprecedented embrace of gun control,” The Atlantic noted Thursday. “The party is betting that support for restrictions is more likely to attract moderate voters than turn them off.”

If nothing else, this shows the goalposts are continuously being moved to the left. If the “centrists” of the party are all in for eviscerating a keystone right and ignoring the crystal clear mandate of “shall not be infringed,” you know what those pulling sentiment in that direction intend to end up with. That also allows those previously considered “moderate” to now be smeared as “extremists,” with accusations of being haters not far behind.

It wasn’t always this way, of course – at one point within the lifetimes of many of us, even Democrat “liberals” were on record expressing belief in the Second Amendment and demonstrating that they understood founding intent in a way that today would have them condemned as insurrectionist traitors.

Two cases in point:

“By calling attention to ‘a well regulated militia,' the ‘security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen ‘to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy,” John F. Kennedy responded to GUNS Magazine’s inquiries in the April 1960 issue’s “Know Your Lawmakers” feature. “Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.”

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms,” then-senator, soon-to-be vice president,  future presidential candidate and “liberal” icon Hubert Humphrey had asserted in the February issue. “This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used, and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”

So much for the lie that the individual rights “theory” didn’t start to gain ground until the NRA started getting more political circa 1977:

“While conventional wisdom suggests that an individual’s right to bear arms is enshrined in the Second Amendment of the Constitution, it is, in fact, a relatively recent interpretation, according to New Yorker writer and legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin.”

It’s fair to wonder what it was Toobin “analyzed.” It certainly wasn’t the clear record left by the Framers or prior Supreme Court cases including Scott v. Sanford, Cruikshank, and Miller.  Then again. Perhaps he’s just an apparatchik advancing an agenda regardless of the truth, which my looking into past asinine assertions he has made appears to corroborate.

Meanwhile, back at The Atlantic, meet the new exemplar of “moderation”:

“He’s laid out an assault-weapons ban for new purchases,” a man named Bill, a managing partner at a small investment firm and a former intelligence officer, told me excitedly, when I asked why he backed Bloomberg for president. (Bill declined to give his last name for privacy reasons.) “And there absolutely should be universal background checks,” he continued. “It’s like, that’s a no-brainer—come on.”

“This is the new normal in the Democratic Party: Moderate voters not only support gun-control legislation, but have begun to use the issue as a litmus test,” The Atlantic advises.

So “Bill” is a Democrat? Having an intelligence background, I don’t suppose he actually did any pertinent data collection before deciding that trying to force millions of his armed countrymen to surrender their rights and bend to the will of the collectivists was a “no-brainer”?

Threatening infringements on the right to keep and bear arms did not work for Al Gore (who ended up losing his home state) or Hillary Clinton. Now the Democrats are betting the electorate has changed enough for denial of rights to be a winning issue. That makes fair the question: Has it? Virginia gives us some clues:

“Gun control was indeed a core campaign message for Spanberger, the Democratic representative who defeated the Republican incumbent Dave Brat two years ago in a suburban district near Richmond, Virginia, that had long been represented by the GOP. It was also central to the campaign platform of Jennifer Wexton, Spanberger’s fellow Virginian and fellow freshman, who flipped her D.C.-adjacent district from red to blue. By 2019, polling showed that gun control was the top issue for voters in their home state; that fall, Democrats managed to gain control of the state legislature and immediately passed a huge slate of gun reforms.”

How did that happen? The New York Times thinks it knows:

“Unlike three decades ago, the residents are often from other places, like India and Korea. And when they vote, it is often for Democrats.

“’Guns, that is the most pressing issue for me,’ said Vijay Katkuri, 38, a software engineer from southern India, explaining why he voted for a Democratic challenger in Tuesday’s elections.”

We will see in November if the demographics have changed enough nationally to give the House-holding Democrats the win for the White House and Senate, and for upcoming federal/Supreme Court appointments. If it is, that “history” the above feature photo predicts, with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris leading the charge against our guns, will prove catastrophic.


About David Codrea:David Codrea

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Beartoe
Beartoe
17 hours ago

I predict the democrats can will go f&@k themselves like we tell them to

Bob
Bob
21 days ago

Article ends by saying “catastrophic”. Does that mean in the sense that they will effectively disarm citizens through registration followed by confiscation? Does it mean it will spark a new civil war between those who support the 2nd amendment and democrats? Why all the nuanced conversation about what happens next?

donfranko
donfranko
8 days ago
Reply to  Bob

Why all the nuanced conversation about what happens next?

Gee, if YOU can see the future, please enlighten us mere mortals…

Chris Mallory
Chris Mallory
23 days ago

Make sure you read the article. It clearly shows why all immigration has been bad for America and Americans. It does not matter who, from where, or how legal they are. Until we close the border and start mass deportations we will not win this battle at the ballot box.

JPM
JPM
23 days ago

What will happen.

vanguard
vanguard
24 days ago

After reading what experts have had to say. Seeing the political divide, the division amongst the people, and the violence being seen across the nation. This great nation has never been closer to a civil war. Historians are estimating 2-5 years. I believe that’s farther away than reality. To support any candidate in this election is not going to make a difference. One is going to push the divide even further, the other is going to force a response. Either way the ending is the same. This nation is within a couple years of an all out civil war. While… Read more »

gunnerdd517
gunnerdd517
25 days ago

I dont believe the Communistic Democrats really have any clear understanding of the ramifications of the fuse they are so intent on lighting. On the other hand, they are friends with our enemies. If they are able to implement their agenda, Ive little doubt they will call upon what they call,foreign assets. So, some load of Red Chinese may be conducting door to door searches. (Remember those forms we had to fill out ,so we could buy a gun?)They value life so we should be safe.Right? The other scenario, is if the Dems. lose, I expect the rioting we see… Read more »

KK
KK
25 days ago

The NY SAFE Act has a 4% compliance rate.
AMERICAN GUN OWNERS
“RATHER FIGHT THAN SWITCH”

Captain Witold Pilecki
Captain Witold Pilecki
24 days ago
Reply to  KK

And in Kommiecticut it is about 15% compliance. I am proud to be in the 85%, and have been since 1994.

My guns can be picked up among the dead bodies (mine included) and empty brass.

toomanyhobbies
toomanyhobbies
25 days ago

Shades of NAZI Germany, or is it COMMIES who had a history if disarming the people and then subjugating them into mind control….AND TENS OF MILLIONS DIED!

Green Mtn. Boy
Green Mtn. Boy
25 days ago

Ah yeah Eff the Commicrats,that will be the kickoff of what ever you want to call the next great aggression.

Elisa Delaurenti
25 days ago

America’s common sense voters MUST reject this anti-America, socialist, far left, anti-Human & Civil Rights LUNACY.

MICHAEL J
MICHAEL J
25 days ago

Are these idiots even American? Their job is to support, defend and protect the Constitution. The United States is the envy of the world, no wonder people break laws trying to get here. Democrats no longer represent their name sake, they are communists who no longer hide in the shadows.

Get Out
Get Out
25 days ago

Yeah, and they also predicted Hillary was going to win too.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
25 days ago

I distinctly remember LEO’s under Barry the ferry on video parked in front of Walmart in their APC bragging about looking for gun owners to take guns from and now that they have found them they are standing down to leave the mess for somebody else to clean up.

https://twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1297773324722941952

Oldman
Oldman
25 days ago

“Choose you this day who ye will serve. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.” IF they tell me to register my lawfully obtained firearms and weapons of war, I will refuse and they will have to kill me and mine before they can have them.

gunnerdd517
gunnerdd517
25 days ago
Reply to  Oldman

They will say, OK ! We value life, they do not.

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
25 days ago

The FACTS are they fully intend to disarm the American citizen. They can’t force socialism/communism on us while we are armed because they know we will revolt. The British tried the same thing and they got their assess kicked. History does repeat itself. The socialist, communist, progressive, demoncrapic left has made their intentions abundantly, tyrannically clear. We stand diametrically opposed. Either what we know to be right and good and true IS right and good and true for all mankind, under GOD, or there is no hope for mankind. If we don’t stand up now there will be war and… Read more »

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gunnerdd517
gunnerdd517
25 days ago

Ill stand. Our well fed,well paid politicians whom we elected to protect our freedoms and "rule of law' that they are so fond of waving in our faces, have ignored their sworn duty. I swore that oath you mentioned, and Ill stand by it.

MICHAEL J
MICHAEL J
25 days ago

The people I know who use the term “no brainer” are really describing themselves, people who cannot think or reason for themselves.

PMinFl
PMinFl
25 days ago

I tend to the geography camp. Those east of the Appalachian and west of the Sierra/ cascades seem to suffer from a strange affliction. Respect for and adherance to the Constitution appears to be absent in the populace. Maybe it’s just living “the good life” insured by the rest of our nation that makes this prevail there? The coastal” elites” (I hate that word) live in a bubble at the expense of us “normal” people.

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  PMinFl

One bright ray of hope that may be strong enough and early enough to affect voting MIGHT be the recent and continuins chaos, destruction, anarchy, etc, in most of the major cities, particularly those long controlled by radical democrats. The lazy and emotion-driven in Seattle voted in droves for that Sawami crreature, the most vocal of the commie nutjobs, and their mayoress, and now they’ve been forced to confront the reality of their thinkng/values, real estate proces in Seattle are plummeting rapidly, while those in surrounding areas are spiking. Large corporations that have been mainstays to the tax base in… Read more »

Idaho Bob
Idaho Bob
25 days ago

“Forced” is a very strong word. I can only hope that the resolve of those like me is far greater than the determination of the American hating tyrannical left.
As Moses once said, “From my cold, dead hands!”

loveaduck
loveaduck
25 days ago
Reply to  Idaho Bob

And somebody here added, “But be careful. The barrel will be hot.”

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  Idaho Bob

Idaho Bob, there will be two of us together in those trenches. I would hope that the rest of my Marine Corps veteran family would also stand with us.

Beartoe
Beartoe
17 hours ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Now there’s 3 of us Ask not how many enemies but where are they!!!!!

mikeL
mikeL
25 days ago

Its quite obvious that the communist party of America don’t have both oars in the water. What I fail to see here on their platform is whom will actually give the order for you and I to surrender our freedom. They obviously do not fathom that we gun owners aren’t illiterate nor stupid. It may have went well in Germany but not gonna happen here. I know I’m not nor will I. A rough road ahead of us Patriots.
JUST DON’T SEE IT HAPPENING…..

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  mikeL

Answwer soreass , oh yeah where was it he came from , nazi Germany wasn’t it?

loveaduck
loveaduck
25 days ago
Reply to  Oldvet

Hungary.

pureamericana
pureamericana
25 days ago

To use 1st & even 2nd generation immigrants with no roots in the USA as a stepping stool to gain power will infuriate millions. To use this power to dictate to Americans with 300+ years in the country that have used up their treasure and family blood to build it will not go well. A firearms speaker years ago, with facts , estimated to disarm Americans with force would see millions dead and a never ending attack against the US Govt. The hate filled Democrat Communists better think long and hard should they attempt such a scheme and action.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
25 days ago
Reply to  pureamericana

In 2016, the Homeland Security office (Obama’s Homeland Security!!) told Congress that civil war WILL indeed arrive – they estimated within the “next 5 years” (by 2021). Can’t find a reason to argue with their conclusion…

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
25 days ago

When the wealthy can afford to have hired security that carry firearms to protect their rich client or elected official they want us everyday citizen to give up our right to defend our family and what really gets me is how hypocritical they can be when they are afraid they may get shot in a gun free zone by a nut with an agenda, they still think it’s okay for a women to kill an unborn child.
Killing someone who has no defender is what needs to change.

Capn Dad
Capn Dad
25 days ago

What IS a no brainer is that gun control has nothing to do with guns. What they are advocating (and demanding) is citizen control. The Democrats (which is the front name for the communists) seek to create a one party nation and an armed citizenry is the last obstacle they face. Demographics insure that the Democrats will get their one party nation but only if America is disarmed. Anyone no matter what is a fool to give up their weapons. Giving in is tantamount to treason.

Mystic Wolf
Mystic Wolf
25 days ago
Reply to  Capn Dad

Remember these ARE satan worshipping DEMONcrats that we are talking about, they care nothing for the people they care only for the master they serve (satan). The only way to get what they want is to disarm the people by force, they think we will give up our weapons willingly they are wrong. All these riots and protests that are going on are all part of the DEMONS plans, and make no mistake these are TRUE SATAN WORSHIPPING demons we have running the DEMONcrat party at this time. Keep your eyes open and watch what they do next, they telegraph… Read more »

catmsfa
catmsfa
25 days ago

What most Democrats fail to realize is that the very people they want to disarm the public are being defunded and demonized by them at this moment with no signs of letting up. Do you honestly think that the Police are feeling beholding to the Democrats and their constituents right now? After being attacked, demeaned, prosecuted, and fired, the Cops are just going to get their marching orders and start grabbing guns. The Democrats will want them to disarm the only segment of the population that actually supports the Police. The Majority of Cops won’t cooperate and will find ways… Read more »

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  catmsfa

As Wild Bill once said , we were thinking we would be going up against police , now it seems we may be allies with them .

willyd
willyd
25 days ago
Reply to  Oldvet

VERY TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are cowboys in the Police Departments, but as I think there is a chance to clear them out, but as Oldvet says it will turn to ally with the police to weed out the Turn-Coats against our Republic, much as our for fathers did when we broke from England!!!!!!!!!

Mystic Wolf
Mystic Wolf
25 days ago
Reply to  catmsfa

Call them what they are satan worshipping DEMONcrats, those on the left and far left are DEMONS you can tell what they are by the eyes.

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  catmsfa

Take a good look at how closely the governors of the craziest states are working with the chinese. Also study how deeply embedded into the economic fabric of those states are the chnese “investors” and businesses. It was only recently the Port of Long Beach (California”s largest) was removed from the controlling hands of chinese interests. IF it comes down to it I do not think the Boys in Blue will be the ones taking up OUR arms. Or dying trying to. No, Those guys invading ourhomes will be wearing light green. It is also possible a different such lot… Read more »

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
25 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

Not only Dem governors but also Republican Senators and not just a few. America didn’t get sold out by only democrats, Republicans were right there in the mix getting their cut. Republicans up there today perceived as fighting to save America are the exact same Republicans that sold us out. Upon the first opportunity they will be right back slitting our throats while dazzling us with smooth talk and smiles.

1MOA2Day
1MOA2Day
25 days ago

“A man named Bill, a managing partner at a small investment firm and a former intelligence officer, told me excitedly, when I asked why he backed Bloomberg for president. (Bill declined to give his last name for privacy reasons.) “And there absolutely should be universal background checks,” he continued. “It’s like, that’s a no-brainer—come on.”

I’d like for this “Bill” to show me a retailer where you can purchase a firearm without a background check.

Maybe I’m missing the part where he wants criminals to get background checks when they purchase stolen guns.

Nelsen4vets
Nelsen4vets
25 days ago

Do they even THINK about the consequences of trying to disarm the descent citizens of this country?
I guess it’s obvious by what they are allowing to happen in our cities, that they don’t care about bloodshed!

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
25 days ago
Reply to  Nelsen4vets

Unless it’s their own blood, no they do NOT care. Not one bit.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
25 days ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Right, that’s why they (Dem’s & Republicans) have all those eye in the sky cameras so they can sit back and watch while having cocktails.

Stripeseven
Stripeseven
25 days ago

The Republics Constitutional Laws and Penalties are in place for a reason. Elected servants only have power that is delegated to them by the Constitution. These servants are there to protect the individual rights of the minority from the demands of the majority. As soon as that oath is taken, then willfully broken, that offender is merely someone impersonating an elected official. Nothing more. They intend on making us explain to our children and grandchildren how we let their freedom slip thru our fingers.

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USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  Stripeseven

No, what you’re going to have to explain to your children is why WE, the People, the individual citizens dis/do not do OUR DUTY and immediately remove these corrupt Traders from office by use of our people’s grand jury indictments and prosecution for high crimes against the people. so rather than try to tell your children some bullshit story tell them about the apathy of We the People

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
25 days ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Yep, defeated and muzzled with panty liners the story will go.

hippybiker
hippybiker
25 days ago

Let me see. How well did that work out for the British?

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  hippybiker

Sadly you have to realize that the masses that we are facing today in our country were handed their freedom and liberty they didn’t have to fight for it therefore they hardly understand the value of it. However, the.Veterans know, especially those that have faced combat and were fortunate to come back home, only to see basically the same crap that they went over to fight! never forget that we have 22 million plus or minus veterans in this nation at any given time and I pray to God that they are all stocked and locked and ready to rock… Read more »

BadDad
BadDad
25 days ago

I think most politicians overestimate the willingness of LEOs and military to participate in confiscation schemes. What percentage of them do you think will? When cops start getting pictures in the mail of their kids playing in front of their houses and their wives at the grocery store they will probably start rethinking their positions.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
25 days ago
Reply to  BadDad

Do you think? I suspect that after the first confiscation that when they start getting ambushed at a stop sign by a guy with a shot gun and the word gets out that being a “law” (read, edict of psychopathic control freak) enforcer of “laws” that are in direct violation of the peoples right to keep and bear arms, they will quickly rethink their position in life. At that time many of us will consider the “thin blue line” a line between freedom and TYRANNY and they will be the enforcers of TYRANNY.

Finnky
Finnky
25 days ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

@CL – How do intend to distinguish between those who enforce federal law and those who don’t? Just how often do you think that would happen? Not disagreeing, but even a few hundred such events would simply motivate increased police brutality, drive up budgets and militarization, AND motivate cops to try to disarm the rest of us for their own safety. A million such events would definitely change the equation, but good luck inspiring so many to act in concert. Couple years ago there was a rash of police ambushed by black men. Do you think that made police begin… Read more »

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

finnky …You been back to commiefornicate again ? Got another injection of their koolaid? The cops you speak of didn’t have the leadership then that they do now who tell them to stand down for antifa did they ? Kinda changes everything !

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

yuo forget that when that was happening the cops KNEW it was the action of a very few individuals, and that they (cops) had he full support of the vast majority of the nation behind them. You will also recall this was short-lived. The perps were NOT enforcing rightsoueness, they WERE lawless murderers.
In this scenario, of taking all our guns, the cops KNOW they would be on the wrong side of justice, the “supreme law of the land”, and moral law. That makes an YUUUUUUGE difference. And the coppers know it.

Finnky
Finnky
25 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

@ Tionico & @CL – Very good points. While I’m not into suicide missions, necessary risk taking is a given. No sniping on a parade, to be trapped in a parking garage – but occifers could quickly learn to not travel alone.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
25 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

I suggest a read of “The War of the Flea” which is a classic study of guerilla warfare. At that time in our history, if it were to occur, EVER LAW ENFORCER who maintains his or her job will be considered an enemy because ALL of them, both federal and local enforce federal “laws” (read, edicts of psychopathic control freaks). Who needs to act in concert? It is called leaderless resistance. Read this comment from one of the greatest dissidents to live in our lifetime… “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  BadDad

The TRUE BLUE LEOS which from my last Testament was 60% or greater and this is coming from Leo’s that they will resign or quit the forces and not take part in an unconstitutional act against those that they serve to protect. Fathers mothers sisters brothers and some uncle’s even grandparents are law enforcement in this nation. Sworn to uphold the law not the Lawless or the unconstitutional they know where the line is and they will die to defend it.

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Granddadted
Granddadted
25 days ago

I hope Beto the buck-toothed moron is at the front when they come to try to take my only pellet gun…

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
25 days ago
Reply to  Granddadted

Good luck with that. He’ll be hiding in his ivory tower with lost of goons in military garb protecting him while the enforcers are out enforcing his psychopathic control freak edicts.

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

Why do you think they are grooming antifa ,which is a multi national org BTW . Can you say One World Order ???

macdog
macdog
25 days ago
Reply to  Granddadted

Agree granddad Beto / butthole, the fake Irish who disparages the name O Rourke is too much of a pussy to be point on a confiscation raid. He is more willing to let somebody else pay for his idiocy.

Red Falcon 1325
Red Falcon 1325
25 days ago

I’m one of those old farts who believes in the Constitution. I retired from the Army and then served and retired as a Deputy. Like other people with my background, we swore an oath to protect the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. Regardless of the election results, I would consider a firearms confiscation order/turn-in as unlawful, and would not obey. Should such a thing ever come to pass in my lifetime, be careful when you pick up my rifle, the barrel is going to be awfully hot. ‘Shall not be infringed’ is pretty f’n clear.  

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago

Never better words spoken from a future Frontline Commander! I pray to God sure that it doesn’t come in your lifetime but I fear that it will around election time and your experience and prowess is going to be needed on the front lines, if not commanding boot camps for the civilians to get properly trained and disciplined in a Military Manor so they can be effective in saving our nation.

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Bob
Bob
25 days ago

Gun confiscation will begin with registration laws. After a grace period, confiscations will begin using warrants. When police arrive at your door, you will have a decision to make: (1) let them in, (2) call your militia neighbors to surround your house and intimidate the police, (undercovers will be taking pictures of the crowd and identifying individual members and leaders), (3) open fire and make them take your guns from your cold, dead hand while your wife and kids become collateral damage. All of these choices are losers. The only long-term option is taking a page from the antifa/BLM rioters.… Read more »

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CourageousLion
CourageousLion
25 days ago
Reply to  Bob

The problem is going from a totally unorganized militia run in many cases by a goofball Negan type to a real ORGANIZED one that the 2nd amendment says is NECESSARY. BTW, that is the only place in the Constitution the word NECESSARY is used. It should have been used in the monetary clauses also. No state shall make anything but gold and silver coin NECESSARY in the payment of debts. But since that oversight took place..>WAALAAA< we have wonderful worthless fiat federal reserve notes to wipe our behinds with!

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

the solution to this is get a group of people together and find out who are the veterans then have them proved that they are veterans by showing you a DD-214 then discover what branch they served and if they served in the Navy you don’t want them trying to teach Rifleman you want Marines or Army infantry personnel. at that point you have your people for month you tell them they’ve got two ears and two eyes tell them to put that to work and then use their mouth only when the training is over and they have questions.… Read more »

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Finnky
Finnky
25 days ago
Reply to  Bob

– I did not thumb you up because I like what you describe, but because I’m growing to believe you are (unfortunately) correct. 🙁

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  Bob

at first news of mandated registration and certain eventual confiscation, take steps to sequester the najority of the tools you now own. Most states are not set up to accuratley track every firearm. Yes, they’ll have records of purchases new from FFL’s. Many of us will have “stuff” that did not come to our hands via that pathway, and yet came legally. Further, any tie one buys a used gun, even from an FFL, the chain of custody from the manufacurer is broken, and I could very plausibly have sold/traded that one off even through an FFL (sold it on… Read more »

SEMPAI
SEMPAI
25 days ago
Reply to  Tionico


STUFF via that pathway? Why yes…
Yes i do.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  Bob

Even though a colorful scenario in reality it’s not going to work that way you know damn well you won’t be able to get enough phone calls out to get everybody to fart in the same tune. I strongly suggest people do not use hypothetical scenarios cooked up in their brains from movies they seen her video games they played and realize but if they do come for you they’re going to come hard and you will be alone in most cases.

ForsakenConstitution
ForsakenConstitution
25 days ago

“Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.”

Neanderthal75
Neanderthal75
25 days ago

Archangels, and Angels, cannot be Saints! Humans who are believers in Christ I’m saved by the blood are Saints. Angels have the pure undiluted Grace of God himself.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
25 days ago

I think God is going to let us defend ourselves. After all he gave folks like Colonel Colt the idea of the great equalizer and then we have Gene Stoner who gave us the idea of the lego kit gun idea which has pretty much armed ever patriotic American in the last 10 years.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  CourageousLion

GOD, COUNTRY, CORPS.

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
25 days ago

The democrats want to take your gun rights, they want to defund the police and they have a track record of always cutting the military so who will they send for the guns a social worker?
If they think too many people have died from the covid-19 virus the numbers will be much higher when they try to take the guns as most Americans will not give them up.

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

Answer …antifa!!

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
25 days ago
Reply to  Oldvet

Oh, please, God, please! Let Antifa show up… the results will not be to their liking, but I’ll enjoy the hell out of the experience.

Last edited 25 days ago by JoeUSooner
Oldvet
Oldvet
24 days ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

We found out a while back finnky is all for it as long as someone else does it ,

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

china flu is just a tool to them .

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

I expect them to make a deal with the cchinese and/or UN. Dont forget, those rats are all real chummy wiht both outfits. You watch.. if the worst happens in November, how soon will it be before the dynamic twin idiots will be pleading with the UN to let us re-ratify the Small Arms Trade Treaty, then ask UN blueheads to come round and help enforce THEIR laws now purportedly oart of “the supreme law of the land”? (they will have conveneintly forgotten that ONY fireign treaties consistent with the written Constituioin we have are part of “the supreme law… Read more »

Rock
Rock
25 days ago

That will light a fuse for an “explosion” that NO DEMOCRAT (politician, neighbor or even family member) EVER wants to light…
For the Dems/socialists it is basically a self elimination fuse, go ahead make our day.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
25 days ago
Reply to  Rock

Life itself is a single-elimination event (think about it…). It’s even tougher if you’re as stupid as a Leftist.

Ryben Flynn
Ryben Flynn
26 days ago

I think I better recheck the 50/200 zero on my ARs.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
25 days ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

You, ( and anybody else that has their head in ass wired together) better take whatever Optics you have on your AR OFF and rely on your front and rear iron sights and punch out to 500 yards! if you have the extra ammo right now would be the time to start practicing. if you cannot punch out to 500 yards with your AR-15 using iron sights chances are you wI’ll be in a world of hurt you don’t want to be in I shit you not. ANYTHING additional to your AR should be a Lower Parts Kit, the tools… Read more »

Buster
Buster
26 days ago

Good luck finding people to enforce such a law.

ZXRider
ZXRider
26 days ago

Yea lets make history and make the democrats and their arrest an example to traitors.

Sushihunter
Sushihunter
26 days ago

If they de-fund the police, who is going to take our guns?

Also, if they de-fund the police, who is going to stop us from shooting the ANTIFA / BLM terrorists?

Interesting paradox.

Vern
Vern
25 days ago
Reply to  Sushihunter

Antifa is now showing up with guns, it won’t be long before they fire the first shot.

Don
Don
25 days ago
Reply to  Vern

Antifa-BLM killed two and injured 3 in Seattle. Police could do nothing.

Vern
Vern
25 days ago
Reply to  Don

The left wants to make BLM and antifa the new police.
Lawlessness and injustice is the lefts/democrats new agenda. It is called, “anarchy.”

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  Don

it was not that the Seattle police “could do nothing” it was that the perverted city hooh hahs decided they MAY NOT do anything. This is in breach of their contract with their constituents. I’m waiting for enough Seattle residents to sue the city for breach of contract, and demand charges be filed for felony perjury for swearing their owth of office then refusing to uphold said oath.
At minimum I’m hoping a functional recall is persued, and that the city rid themselves of these traitorous treasonous trough feeders.

Neanderthal75
Neanderthal75
25 days ago
Reply to  Sushihunter

Don’t interview remember Obozo’s private paramilitary jackbooted organization? When Biden becomes president, and I do mean WHEN, that organization will be restarted and filled with antifa and BLM.

The Democrats will not be denied this election cycle, they’re going to steal the election, and they do not care who knows it.

Get ready people Civil War is here!

Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY

Last edited 25 days ago by Neanderthal75
nrringlee
nrringlee
26 days ago

“For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.” So President Kennedy got it. When you need to defend your nation and your values as a nation you need to be armed. Modern democrats do not see any need to defend this nation. They intend to destroy it. That is why disarming America is such a critical element in their public policy. They will try by hook and by crook to disarm American so they can achieve total power. Total power equals totalitarianism. That is their goal. That is their “precious.”

Vern
Vern
25 days ago
Reply to  nrringlee

President Kennedy met the enemy of our country and fought against them, today, his party believes the enemy is the American people. What we are about to find out in this country today is, are the American people capable of fighting the enemy within? The democrats are counting on the American people not fighting against each other and just letting them, democrats, have their way. Slavery was put away 165 years ago in this country, the democrats want to reinstitute slavery again but under communism, which is a demonic form of slavery. We have until November to convince people they… Read more »

Oldvet
Oldvet
24 days ago
Reply to  Vern

,,, Slavery never went away the democrats just called it Welfare , and called the plantation the hood .

Vern
Vern
24 days ago
Reply to  Oldvet

You are absolutely correct.

TNJEWBOY
TNJEWBOY
26 days ago

If we hand in our guns to the government either piecemeal or all at once what is going to protect us from the government????

Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  TNJEWBOY

ah, Tennesee, THAT is THE question of the day. WE know what was the founders’ intent for protecting us from government, and all other enemies and threats, foreign and domestic.
Apparently the likes of BuyThem and Whooriss hve forgotten that. IF they manage to hornswoggle enough voters/vote counters to “win”, they may soon enough learn how mistaken they are.

Laddyboy
Laddyboy
26 days ago

I hope these communists do attempt to come in person.

Camotim
Camotim
26 days ago

But if they defund the police who is going to come and take our guns?

Finnky
Finnky
26 days ago
Reply to  Camotim

@Camotim – First time cops are killed carrying out a gun confiscation raid, haters will jump all over themselves calling for increasing police power, militarization, and of course funding. The mob is fickle, that is why we have a republic, BoR, and SCOTUS with lifetime appointments. First is to ensure geographic differences are respected. Second to protect civil rights of individuals. While third insures some legal stability over time. Modern travel, communications and 3conomics have drastically reduced effectiveness of the first. Political differences are no longer along state lines and billionaires do not restrict themselves to influencing their own states.… Read more »

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

biden wouldn’t be there past day 2 ! antifa is in training to be the communist force . soreass will probably arm them with full auto military arms so as Mr. Flynn said you better get your sniper rifles in shape to start with . biden wouldn’t select anybody he does what he is told !!!

Last edited 25 days ago by Oldvet
Tionico
Tionico
25 days ago
Reply to  Oldvet

probably arm them with full auto military arms anyone else notice the small announcement that Customs and Border Protection discovered and seized a massive shipment (tens of thousands) of drop in auto sears and conversion kits to render AR pattern rifles now semi auto only into select fire full auto weapons? Anyone else remember a recent series of raids up near Cairns, the remote northern territoty in Austraila, where thousands of NEW full auto military pattern chinese “assault weapons” have been found being brought in to the country? If Australia can have be a desitnation for them, so can the… Read more »

Westside
Westside
26 days ago
Reply to  Camotim

The military.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
25 days ago
Reply to  Westside

Are you sure? Are you talking about the military that voted 75% conservative in 2016? The military that’s made up of citizen-soldier patriots? The military (and their families) that live in our local communities? The military that would likely react very negatively to being ordered to open fire on fellow American citizens? THAT military??

Westside
Westside
24 days ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Absolutely. To begin with, today’s military came thru the same indoctrinating educational system as the rioters on our streets. Second, the vast majority (be it police, military or whatever) will do what they are told out of fear of retribution or losing their jobs. In addition, if you’re not aware that for decades our military has been used as one big social experiment, then your head has been in the sand. My statement was not anti-military and I am anything but. However, you need to be realistic. It may be before your time (I got out of the Army in… Read more »

jack mac
jack mac
25 days ago
Reply to  Camotim

Defunding intended for local police; not federal enforcers whose numbers are increasing. The number of prohibited persons also increasing.

WI Patriot
WI Patriot
26 days ago

Come and get ’em…plain and simple…

Finnky
Finnky
26 days ago
Reply to  WI Patriot

@WI – Life is short and I don’t want to spend what little I have left in prison. Their idea of a moderate small step is to apply NFA rules to almost every magazine. Compliance is not an option. Ten years and $250k each for majority of rifle and pistol magazines is also not an option. I am an incredibly peaceful- law abiding, and honestly kind of wimpy man xx yet what choices do they leave me? In negotiation the biggest wins come when you offer the other side a way to claim victory, or at least to save face.… Read more »

gregs
gregs
25 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

live free or die. slavery is wrong, no matter where, no matter when, although it still happens around the world. i too am a law-abiding citizen, i obey Jesus and the Constitution and Bill of Rights. i will not be a slave to an authoritarian government.
by the way men are xy.

Finnky
Finnky
25 days ago
Reply to  gregs

– like the 3 in economics, I’ve got no idea where the “xx” came from. My spell checker seems to have lost it’s “mind”. Am well aware that men are xy (which spell checker just changed to dying!)… I am xy, if you need proof… see children 🙂

Oh… xx came because I tried sliding down for —. Guess I need to start using a computer with a real keyboard instead of iPad.

Oldvet
Oldvet
25 days ago
Reply to  gregs

Good catch !

Finnky
Finnky
25 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

@OV – I think you misunderstood my meaning. After trapping a wild animal without means of escape, would you stick your bare hand in to grab them? Even a gopher or rabbit can deliver a painful bite, though you might consider what I/we would be resisting and implications regarding tools and skill sets.

Oldvet
Oldvet
24 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

You are not making any sense . Say what you mean .