Huh? Gun Activist Calls For Expanded Background Checks, Then Says He Didn’t

The longtime instructor, author, and entrepreneur co-wrote a lengthy column with a former president of The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which calls for more gun control.
Comments by Lee Williams

Rob Pincus Is A Divisive Figure In The Gun Community
Rob Pincus Is A Divisive Figure In The Gun Community

Sarasota, Florida – -(AmmoLand.com)- Rob Pincus is a divisive figure in the gun community — that’s about the only thing everyone can agree on when his name is mentioned.

It started with the shooting method he developed — the “Combat Focus Shooting Program,” which he now calls “Intuitive Defensive Shooting™.”

There are some folks who swear by Rob’s methods, but there are others who say it’s nothing but smoke and mirrors.

I should point out that I’ve never taken one of his classes, and I probably never will.

I’m more old school and less New Age when it comes to shooting. I believe in mastering the fundamentals — that’s pretty much it. I’m not looking for someone to help me achieve Zen, inner peace, or “combat focus” — especially if they’ve never been in combat themselves.

I should also point out that I don’t know Rob. We never had a conversation until yesterday, when we talked about his column.

He seems affable enough, and he comes across as a strong Second Amendment proponent, which is why you could have pushed me over with the proverbial feather when I read this: “Guns in America: Ending the Culture War & Starting a Productive Conversation,” which was published on AmmoLand News.

Rob co-wrote the piece with Dan Gross, former president of The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence — AKA: Handgun Control, Inc. — AKA: the Brady Bunch.

“He reached out to me,” Rob told me Sunday. “We met through a third party, and then he offered me some insight into why he’s no longer president of Brady.”

When I read their column, I first thought it was a joke. After all, April Fools’ Day is right around the corner, but it’s definitely not a joke. There’s nothing funny about it.

In my humble opinion, it’s treasonous.


Listen as Lee discusses this same article with Mark Walter on Armed America Radio.


I could literally dissect the column line by anti-gun line, but I don’t know if there are enough pixels on my website, since it’s mostly psycho-babble and anti-gun gibberish.

Instead, let’s talk about the main points, starting with this:

“Change is being made impossible by perceptions of a culture war that does not actually exist,” they wrote.

I beg to differ, fellas. The war against the gun culture does exist. It’s all too real, and it’s stronger and more intense now than ever. With the Democrats in charge of the White House, Senate and House, we are in a serious defensive posture.

Besides, the anti-gunners have been at war with our culture for decades, and if this culture war is the reason why we can’t change or compromise with them — so be it!

I guess we’re smart enough not to compromise with our enemy.

And don’t forget that every time we’ve been sold out by Quisling lawmakers and forced to compromise, we get nothing out of it except fewer gun rights and more regulations, which further infringe upon our God-given, constitutional right to self-defense.

Therefore, why would we even want to change?

Rob walked these comments back Sunday when I asked him if he truly believed that the other side wasn’t waging a culture war.

“There are a very small number of noisy people who are absolutely on a war against gun ownership and gun rights,” he said. “What we’re addressing is this idea — that there is an even split in this country of those who oppose and those who support (gun rights).

“That’s the narrative of the NRA and Everytown — everyone who wants to get some significant publicity. There are extremists on both sides who generate revenue and attention and further their own agenda by saying there’s an even split on gun rights in this country.”

Note that despite his lengthy response, he didn’t answer my question.

Here’s another highlight, or lowlight, from the piece:

“We are two advocates, activists and leaders from opposite sides of the ‘gun debate’ who have come together because we both believe we are at a make-or-break moment,” they wrote. “Suffice it to say, there is plenty that we disagree on, but for anyone with the genuine goal of reducing the number of preventable gun deaths in our nation, we believe we have an opportunity for real impact that has not existed in years and, if we are not able to seize it, it is likely to have negative repercussions for years to come.”

In my humble opinion, when gun prohibitionists talk about an opportunity for real impact, lookout.

For them, an opportunity always entails us giving up guns and/or gun rights.

But while that’s worrisome, this is the authors’ worst point:

“Fortunately, the policy area with the most synergistic message is also the one that represents what we believe is the greatest potential for impact: Expanded Background Checks.”

That’s right, firearms instructor, author, and onetime candidate for the National Rifle Association’s Board of Directors, Rob Pincus, wrote that he is all-in on expanded background checks.

I never expected that.

The problem with expanded background checks — and Rob knows this — is that they only work when partnered with total firearms registration. And what comes later, after all the guns have been registered? Confiscation.

Rob knows that too.

However, during our interview Sunday, Rob said I and the other folks who have read his column misinterpreted what he was trying to say.

“I oppose background checks, period,” Rob told me. “All of that — that statement that you just read — can be true. It (the statement) does not support the idea that we need or should have expanded background checks. Instead, it says of everything on the table, it’s the least worst. It’s a comparative statement, as opposed to the other things on the table.”

His column says otherwise.

“ … we believe the public face of any policy push should, as entirely as possible, be focused on background checks.” he wrote.

While I found his rationalization somewhat laughable, the best was yet to come when I asked him about the overall tone of the column, which, in my opinion, is decidedly anti-gun.

Rob disagreed.

“Why would I possibly be part of anything that has an anti-gun tone,” he said. “I think it has a decidedly pro-gun-rights tone.”

I told him I disagreed, and that based upon the comments on the story, most of AmmoLand News’ readers disagreed too:

”This is a joke right? If you haven’t learned by now that the anti-gun people will never stop, you’re beyond naïve. They keep wanting us to ‘compromise just one more time.’ ‘Do it for the children.’ Well, I’ve had enough of it,” one reader wrote.

“With friends like these who in hell needs enemies. No wonder we keep losing our #2A rights. Gun owners keep surrendering them to the police state communists.” wrote another.

“I appreciate Ammoland’s commitment to freedom of speech. That said, this is one of the most anti-gun things I have ever read. It took several breaks for me to lower my blood pressure to finish it,” wrote a third.

Fallout

I remember what happened to Jim Zumbo when he wrote that ARs weren’t good for hunting.

He lost everything, and rightfully so. But his blog post pales when compared to Rob’s column. After all, Jim ceded a bit of ground to the anti-gunners, but Rob gave up the whole playing field.

I honestly don’t know what will happen to him. He’s involved with several organizations — all supposedly pro-gun. It will be up to their boards to determine if Rob’s comments accurately reflect their members’ views and opinions, or whether, like me, they’re not capable of understanding what he really meant to say.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that the angst currently being directed toward AmmoLand News for publishing the column is misplaced. That’s a classic mistake — blaming the messenger for the message.

As an avid AmmoLand News reader, I’m glad their editors published the column. It’s important for us to know what people are thinking when they’re involved with national Second Amendment organizations at a senior level, and are capable of influencing discussions and policy.

Motivations

I’ve spoken to several friends in the gun community about Rob’s latest work.

No one knows why he wrote it. One believes Rob may be angling for a position in the Biden administration. If that’s the case, he’s off to a good start. His column mentions the word “change” a total of 14 times.

Change has always been a hallmark of the progressive movement — hope and change. But change has never been a part of our culture.

The Second Amendment doesn’t change, thank God.

Hopefully — if we zealously guard against it — it never will.

As always, thanks for your time.

Lee


About Lee Williams

Lee Williams is a recovering newspaperman, gun columnist, tactical rifle connoisseur, Army vet, ex-LEO, and rum snob. Read more from Lee at thegunwriter.substack.com

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StLPro2A
StLPro2A(@stlpro2a)
8 months ago

Hey, Pincus. That red on your shirt is from you slitting your own neck. RIP, Rob.

Get Out
Get Out(@get-out)
8 months ago

Probably need to follow the money to understand why he flipped.

Mack
Mack(@mackhh)
8 months ago

Thanks to AmmoLand, I became even more aware of Pincus.

So thank you for that.

And thanks to you and Dean for your respective rebuttals.

Tman72
Tman72(@tman72)
8 months ago

There is a “small group” yeah they’re called Globalists that constantly work at disarming the populace. They won’t stop and use every tool they can including a culture war. Everyone (every knowledgeable gun owner) knows the end game.

Kebal
Kebal(@lekab)
8 months ago

Thank you for doing this Mr. Williams and it was kinda cool to see my comment in the middle of it.

Beobear
Beobear(@beobear)
8 months ago

I’ve had issues with various things he’s said over the years but hey, I support his right to say stupid stuff. This latest drivel really shows his colors and they aren’t red, white and blue. I’m glad this guy is finally getting the attention he’s long since deserved.

hoss
hoss(@hossgreen2000)
8 months ago

Pincus is believing his own press.

Laddyboy
Laddyboy(@laddyboy)
8 months ago

I believe this “forked tunged” dialog being pushed is called: GAS LIGHTING —- in other words, you are saying one thing while at the same time you are negating and lying with every word which you speak/write! GAS LIGHTING

Mike11C
Mike11C(@mike11c)
8 months ago

Thank you for calling out Rob Pinko for his collaboration with the enemy. And, thanks for using part of one of my comments to slap him in the face with.

GomeznSA
GomeznSA(@gomeznsa)
8 months ago

Two words leapt (leaped? jumped?) out at me:”least worst”. My immediate thought was which is “least worst” – getting shot in the heart, decapitated, garroted or simply leaking out from multiple stab wounds? The End Result Ia The Same. Any further infringement – which DEFINITELY includes expanded/enhanced ‘background checks’ – likely falls well into that infringement zone.
For example, I’ve had so many background checks (for a variety of reasons) I probably can’t count them all even if I take off my shoes. That leads me to: how many checks are enough for the antis?

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up(@daveeckartverizon-net)
8 months ago
Reply to  GomeznSA

I’ve had so many background checks (for a variety of reasons) I probably can’t count them all even if I take off my shoes. That leads me to: how many checks are enough for the antis? I make that same point, too. The other issue is that with UBCs, prohibited persons are still not going to get background checks, leading to only the law-abiding being affected. I recently sent one of my congress critters an email regarding the recent house bills that have now been passed, part of it excerpted here: Since November 1998, when NICS began, to February 28,… Read more »

Last edited 8 months ago by Heed the Call-up
DonP
DonP(@donp)
8 months ago

“Fortunately, the policy area with the most synergistic message is also the one that represents what we believe is the greatest potential for impact: Expanded Background Checks.” They want “expanded” background checks? The problem is that the government doesn’t even enforce the laws they currently have on the books, which includes the current background checks. The so-called “Charleston Loophole” term was created because the government dropped the ball on their side of the current background check rules. Had they not dropped the ball, the Charleston Church shooting would not have happened with a store bought firearm… as well as others.… Read more »

Dubi Loo
Dubi Loo(@dubi-loo)
8 months ago

Thank you Lee for this important “counter-point” article. So glad you’re not a Ken doll.

Bozz
Bozz(@bozz48)
8 months ago

The thought that “If we accept this small infringement, they will leave us alone.” is outdated and naive. I am surprised and disappointed that Rob Pincus would be in step with this Fudd mind set.

Last edited 8 months ago by Bozz
Cruiser
Cruiser(@cop1771)
8 months ago

I’m one of those “unwashed masses” who believes in the Constitution
and the Bill of rights. Explain to me how registering a gun has anything to do with “Gun Safety”? You already know who I am where I live. What I have is none of your business. In other words get your own house in order before you tell me what to do.

Hazcat
Hazcat(@havoc816)
8 months ago

I have been wondering what y’all saw in Pincus for years. I ran across him at the DownRange.TV forum long time ago ago and called out his BS back then. I knew right off he was a grifter and only out for himself. What exactly are his credentials? He was a cop in a small town for a short time and took classes from others. Somehow that made him a ‘go to’ ‘expert’? As for AmmoLand I am glad they publish articles like his. It is not an endorsement by AmmoLand, they are just allowing the trash to out themselves.… Read more »

Carbuilder
Carbuilder(@carbuilder)
8 months ago

If we want meaningful legislation that will actually do something, BIDS back ground checks need to be widely promoted by the 2nd amendment community. It is the ONLY solution that does what gun grabbers “say” they want, and what will actually work. Unfortunately, they’ll never do it because it won’t create their registry they so desperately want.

Tionico
Tionico(@tionico)
8 months ago
Reply to  Carbuilder

Spot on. give US a means of assuring an unknown buyer (to us) is clean, because WE don’t want violent dirtbags to be able to buy guns either. And trash the entire page where any idientifying data concerning the itnended purchase is recorded. IF I can legally own the thing, why do they want to know WHAT I will be owning? Nunnadarebidniss. ONLY one reason can justify including the specific information on what I want to buy.. so they can build registry of who has what where. Again, nunnadarebidniss.

Montana454Casull
Montana454Casull(@rld454c)
8 months ago

The second amendment community has been infiltrated by traitors that will sell is down the river if we entertain thier bullshit even a little bit . Reject all the lies these people have tried to push in the name of safety. They feel they world would be a safer place with only those in the government possessing guns . They want the general public to go back to muzzle loaders so they have superior arms to control the masses . It’s in our best interest to not give these gun grabbers a platform to push thier lies and deception.

RicktheBear
RicktheBear(@rickthebear)
8 months ago

I’ll admit that I took one of his basic classes. Pretty underwhelmed. His “work with the other side otherwise it would be worse” schtick is old and tired and hasn’t worked since NFA 1934.

StreetSweeper
StreetSweeper(@streetsweeper)
8 months ago

I have not commented till now, I personally am glad AMMOLAND ran the Rob Pincus diatribe; I now know who to avoid like the plague.

Carl up North
Carl up North(@carl-up-north)
8 months ago

So disappointing that with friends like like this do we need other enemies?

ColdSteel1983
ColdSteel1983(@bri2301)
8 months ago

Well said.

RoyD
RoyD(@royd)
8 months ago

I am disappointed that he didn’t quote my comment on the originally run article here in Ammoland. LOL!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC(@jsnmgc)
8 months ago

Rob Pincus is a jumbled-up mess of every bad 1970’s consultant cliché that ever existed.

He should feel bad because he is bad.

Last edited 8 months ago by JSNMGC
Stag
Stag(@eriggle83)
8 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

He’s the epitome of a Butter/Fudd. He’s a perfect example of why I say Butters and Fudds are cancer. They eat away at our constitutional rights from the inside. They’re the ones who are willing to work with the enemy. They’re the ones willing to “compromise” and negotiate our rights away while never getting anything in return. They’re nothing more than traitors in my eyes and I don’t care if that sounds extreme. It’s time to call these people out and expose them for what they are. They’re worse than the anti-gunners as far as I’m concerned because they work… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC(@jsnmgc)
8 months ago
Reply to  Stag

That’s not an extreme view.

At this point, any support for yet more gun control should receive loud condemnation.

Plus, the guy is just off. The way he talks is like a cartoon character of a 1970s consultant.