Constitutional Carry & Corruption in The Bayou: Louisiana ~ VIDEO

UPDATE 07/16/2021: Louisiana legislators have voted to hold the first Veto Override Session in 50 years. See 2021 Louisiana Veto Override Session Announcement below.

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Louisiana – -(AmmoLand.com)- When both chambers of the Louisiana legislature passed Constitutional Carry, most pundits expected Governor John Bel Edwards to veto SB 118. According to several people in the know, the Governor is now protecting his veto by offering favors and making threats to elected representatives.

The bill would allow any person who is not prohibited by law to carry a concealed firearm anywhere the citizen can open carry a gun. A resident of the state could not carry a firearm in a gun-free zone and still would need a permit to carry a gun in a restaurant or within 1,000’ of a school. The current concealed carry permit system would remain in place, and most people will still choose to get a permit to expand the areas that they are permitted to carry a gun and for reciprocity with other states.

A lot of gun rights advocates see the Constitutional Carry Bill as more of a start than the perfect pro-gun bill. Anti-gun groups claim that the bill would make Louisiana a more dangerous place. In the 21 states that have passed some form of Constitutional Carry, there hasn’t been an uptick in crimes committed with guns or firearm-related accidents.

When a bill is vetoed in Louisiana, it triggers a veto override session unless the members of the legislature agree NOT to hold one. Right now, it appears that there is an excellent chance that the first-ever veto override session will happen in Louisiana this month.

The Constitutional Carry Bill passed in both the House and the Senate by a veto-proof majority with several Democrats crossing party lines and voting for the pro-gun bill. It should be a slam dunk for the Governor’s veto to be overridden, but weak Republican leadership and suggested back-room deals are in play to jeopardize Constitutional Carry in the Pelican State.

In The House, SB 118 passed with every Republican voting for the Senate bill with the exceptions of Joseph Stagni, who voted no, and Stephanie Hilferty, who was absent for the vote. Hilferty currently opposes Constitutional Carry. Six Democrats joined Republicans in backing the Constitutional Carry bill.

Clay Schexnayder is the current Republican Speaker of The House, but only 22 Republicans out of 68 voted for him to be the Speaker. Schexnayder relied on votes by the Democrats to get the leadership position. The Speaker hasn’t been a strong supporter of gun rights, and it calls into question whether the Speaker is willing to go head-to-head with Governor Edwards over the Constitutional Carry bill.

More disturbing are accusations of deals being struck behind the scenes with members of the House and the Governor to block a veto override and kill Constitutional Carry.

George Peterson of PDW Solutions went on record with AmmoLand News, stating that Republican Patrick Connick has agreed to vote against an override of the Governor’s veto in return for funding for the Roosevelt Overpass. The budget for that project is in the millions of dollars. Two other sources also claim that Connick directly told them the same thing. The sources stated that the Governor had a meeting with Connick and the Democrats that voted for Constitutional Carry in the past few days.

According to the sources, five of the six Democrats in the House [that originally voted yes for the constitutional carry bill] will not vote to override the Governor’s veto putting the chance of Constitutional Carry in Louisiana in jeopardy. Connick also told AmmoLand News that he plans to vote against overriding the Governor’s veto. After speaking to his police chiefs, Connick states that he no longer supports Constitutional Carry because it would make Louisiana a more dangerous place. Yet he claims he is still pro-gun rights…!?

When pushed on the data showing that an increase in gun deaths hasn’t been the case in states with Constitutional Carry, he stated that he doesn’t believe in statistics, and other states with Constitutional Carry don’t have cities the size of New Orleans. Phoenix currently has 1.3 million more people than New Orleans.

Connick denied making any deals with the Governor but did say that Edwards has brought a lot of projects to his district. He also highlighted his friendship with Governor Edwards and stated that Edwards is a good man and is a good Catholic. He feels the Governor is being dragged through the mud over Constitutional Carry.

Republican Ronnie Johns was absent for the bill’s initial passage, but he voted yes for the concurrence. Since that time, he has decided NOT to back Constitutional Carry in the veto override session. The Governor recently appointed Johns to a lucrative position on the Gaming Commission. There isn’t concrete evidence tying the appointment to the vote on Constitutional Carry, but several gun rights activists have questioned the timing for the appointment.

The Senate President is Page Cortez. Cortez has not shown support of Constitutional Carry and could slow play the veto override session to run out the clock on taking up the bill. According to the Hay Ride, Cortez is not actually in favor of the session, but grassroots efforts have forced his hands.

Since SB 118 is a Senate bill, it will have to come out of the Senate during the veto override session. Some gun-rights activists worry that Cortez will never call up the Constitutional Carry bill for a veto override. Nothing in the Louisiana Constitution requires all vetoed bills to be voted on during a veto override session, and the Senate President controls what bills are heard during the session.

Governor Edwards has always claimed to be a blue dog pro-gun Democrat, but he has made a hard turn to the left by vetoing Constitutional Carry and a bill protecting women’s
sports in his lame-duck term. Some have openly wondered if the Governor is auditioning for another position with the Biden Administration?

Constitutional Carry in Louisiana is not dead but will take a massive grassroots effort to force Louisiana politicians to keep their promise to the state’s gun owners. If you support Constitutional Carry for Louisiana, the deadline for an up-or-down vote to hold the override session ends tonight, 7/15/2021, so call your representative or contact them on social media.


2021 Louisiana Veto Override Session Announcement


About John Crump

John is an NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or www.crumpy.com.

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Arny
Arny
3 months ago

What a waste of time. Can someone show me where the 2A was removed from the US CONSTITUTION or even the Pennsylvania Constitution ? How about where the shall not infringe was removed ? If people would join together in mass & decide to carry as was intended to the Constitution. What would they do arrest everyone ? Start a war over it ? Remember now defund the police. This is your responsibility to protect yourself & loved ones.

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Bill
Bill
3 months ago

Sounds familiar! Former Texas Speakers of the House, Joe Straus and Dennis Bonnen were both elected to the position with assistance from the People’s Socialist Democrat Party (PSDP) as neither could muster enough votes from the GOP to make it on their own. They were both pretty much RINOS, too. That the Louisiana governor who is also a member of the PSDP would used outright bribery to stop a veto override is not at all surprising. This is how the PSDP operates! The video was also blocked by my Brave Browser! Unsat!

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Stag
Stag
3 months ago

Yet another bill they keep calling “constitutional carry” when there’s not much constitutional about it.

JimmyS
JimmyS
3 months ago

Our rights aren’t even open for debate, let alone negotiation. Stop pretending that they are. This is a nation of children.

Arny
Arny
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyS

Nah, a nation of gutless sheep. As I saw firsthand during their BS COVIDSCAM.

Rebel Yell
Rebel Yell
3 months ago
Reply to  Arny

This shows just corrupt and rotten the politicians are in Louisiana and throughout the country. They take away our constitutional rights with the threat of violence if we reject it. This is not freedom. This is tyranny. The only thing we’re leaving our children is guaranteed slavery if we allow this to stand. It’s us or it’s no one. We’re the last stand.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Rebel Yell

Wait until they start controlling prices – first step in a planned economy (and people are begging for it).

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Rebel Yell

Well, every post I enter goes on hold.

LeT ME tRY thIS. A LOT OF caps and mspeled wrds sems to work fer sum.

WAIT until they START controlling PRICEs – the frst step in A Planed econmy (AND sum PEEPLE are beggin fer IT).

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

EXCLAMATION POINTS WORK TOO!!!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

HERE’s TWO a Planed ECONOMY, COMRADE. LOW cost (and rarely avalable) black bREad for Evryone (well, at LEAST the Politburo members). PERIOD!!!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Nothing more gutless than SHEEP who WANT the government to PROTECT them from CAPITALISM!! IT’s the very DEFINITION of GUTLESS SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!

THEY will get what they want/deserve GOOD and HARD!!!!!!!

Tank
Tank
3 months ago

Corporate Fascist Corruptocracy continues.

Lincoln’s Secretary of War, once stated:
“Wars are not fought to defeat a nation BUT TO CREATE A
CONDITION.”

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Sisu
Sisu
3 months ago
Reply to  Tank

That certainly was true of the “Civil War”.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago

It’s NOT Constitutional Carry. There were few if any “gun free” zones in 1789. It’s Permitless Carry in SOME places.

P.S. Will is a silly goose who thinks exclamation points make his posts compelling! LOL!!!

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musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago

Funny, just rolled up on this article to read it and see the video and the video is blocked by Microsoft Edge. So now I have Microsoft dictating what I can and cannot see right along with google, fakebook and youtube. If that isn’t censorship I don’t know what else is. IMO it is my right to not only use the 1st amendment but to observe others using it and the reins need to be pulled in by our government to stop the censorship. Am I living in CHINA? Sounds like the governor is taking a page right out of… Read more »

PMinFl
PMinFl
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

My video is blocked by Duck Duck Go (my search engine).What does a search engine have to do with viewing a video? The powers that be are censoring us.

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Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  PMinFl

DuckDuckGo claims to be ‘private’ but it’s owned/run by commie-libs who censor results. 100% of ddg donations go to Dems. Sometimes even google has less-censored results.

Try the German search engine metager (metager.org). I get pretty good results from that, no tracking. I sometimes use google if metager results are weak, but only with vpn on.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Thanks, I tried it through google, duk duk and bing and microsoft still has me under their control. This is against the law. I can’t believe that when it is against the law and effects republicans in a way that the left wants it’s ok and a good thing but the minute the tables are turned, it’s systemic injustice by the terrorist republicans.

I wish I were bloomburg or warren buffet rich. I could make a difference.

from Oregone the druggie capital of the USA.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

That’s why I never vote for weak kabuki Rs in primaries, or donate. They had decades but did NOTHING. e.g. Trump’s first 2 years. And Trump’s just as bad. All he did was TALK. “I’ll be watching big tech closely.” BFD. There were dozens of things he could’ve done by executive order. He did NOTHING.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Why give up on putting pressure on him or whoever runs in 2024? It woud be a good conversation for gun owners to have if we could keep it civil. If a national organization had led an effort to just say no more gun control and punish Republican candidates decades ago, maybe today’s candidates would be more fearful about pushing/endorsing more gun control. It takes a big loss for them (the Republican Party) to understand that further gun control just won’t be tolerated. A big loss many decades ago would have resulted in a long term win. Republican candidates push… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Will’s sitting there with a fistfull of exclamation marks mashing that down button.

Will, why are you so against this scenario:

  • Gun owners put pressure on Trump to vow not to push/endorse/sign any more gun control;
  • Trump agrees;
  • Pro 2nd Amendment people (including me) overwelmingly vote for for Trump and he wins; and
  • Trump doesn’t flip flop again.

What is wrong with that scenario, Will?

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

You have to remember that the largest national organization claiming to represent gun owners in the United States did pressure Trump and Congress on gun control. Unfortunately that organization was the NRA which has been advocating for federal gun control since at least 1934. Following the Las Vegas shooting, it was Wayne LaPierre who first publicly proposed the bump stock ban. Then when the NRA couldn’t convince Congress to pass a bump stock ban, WLP went to the white house to personally meet with Trump to assure him that American Gun Owners wanted a ban on bump stocks. Trump had… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

I wasn’t talking about the NRA – and I’m well aware of how worthless they are.   If you keep apologizing for Trump’s bad behavior and act like he’s dumb and didn’t have many good sources of counsel on firearm rights, we will never get anywhere.   Trump went well beyond the NRA’s advice. He advocated for things the NRA was not in favor of and told anti-gun legislators not to be afraid of the NRA.   Trump flip flopped not because of the NRA. He flip flopped because he knew he had the majority of pro 2nd Amendment people… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

There you go again with the non-sequiturs. Recognizing the reality that NRA is partly responsible does not equal “apologizing for Trump.” As much as you’re in love with your speculative theories, you can’t read Trump’s mind.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

That’s one interpretation. There are others.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

Man, after reading your explanation of what took place and the order in which it happened. If it is correct and true, it makes sense the Lapue would do something like that for job security and more donations from NRA followers.

Oregone<

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

Which is why I’ve been saying all along in my discussions with JSNMGC that NRA is partly to blame for Trump’s flips, and it’s not realistic to expect pols to take a harder stand on gun rights than the NRA. Hence the schizophrenia of the last 40 years, gunners getting upset with Republican squishes, but saying nothing about the treasonous NRA that lobbies for the flips and/or incentivizes them to flip with phony A grades, endorsements, orange “alert” cards, etc. Why hold the line when we really need you, when you know NRA will lie for you and give you… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

That’s where we disagree. Trump is smart. He’s savy. He’s a street-fighter. He had vast resources available to him. He has no foundational principles when it comes to the second amendment. To him it’s just something to banter around to get votes. It is realistic to expect him to stick with his promises – even after a “mass shooting” and even after the NRA gave him the green light on part of what he said. He didn’t flip flop because of the NRA. He was virtue signaling to white suburban women voters to get their votes because he views gun… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Again with the strawmen. No one’s apologizing for Trump except Will. Everyone else, besides you, is noting the reality that NRA is partly responsible. “It is realistic to expect him to stick with his promises…” Good grief. Clearly that’s not realistic, given his betrayal after such promises. “He has no foundational principles when it comes to 2A” Probably true, it’s not his thing. If true, then it’s even less realistic to expect him to honor promises. Yet you say you’ll drop everything & campaign for him if he promises you again. Who’s the battered-wife Stockholm Syndrome victim here? Not me.… Read more »

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

That’s not a strawman – attributing his flip flop to reliance on the NRA is being apologetic.

The expectation is realistic. He failed to meet reasonable expectations.

I’ll get behind any politician who commits to no more gun control, but they are going to have to be very specific. In Trump’s case, he’s got some explaining/clarifying/recanting/slithering to do.

I agree with your last sentence and the NRA is not the group to rely on.

Last edited 3 months ago by JSNMGC
Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Again with the simplistic all or nothing strawman. Who attributes his flip exclusively to NRA? Not me.

Nice to know all it takes is another promise for you to forgive all past betrayals of similar promises.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Ok, you attribute some percentage of his flip flop to the NRA and some to him – is that correct? You’ve mentioned that it is unrealistic to expect him not to take the NRA’s advice (despite all the other, almost unlimited, resources he had available to him). I didn’t pick up on your view that you also hold Trump partiallly responsible for his actions. I would vote for him a third time and help his campaign if he made very specific declarations about his platform. That would require some explaining/clarifying/recanting/slithering from him. Is that wrong? Will you vote for him… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

What Will & his sock puppets (not to be confused with Will Rogers) don’t understand is that one exclamation point does not enhance an argument. Only 3 or more exclamation points can ensure that an argument is compelling!!!!!!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

You NEED some CAPS in there to make sure EveryoNE knoWS yoU’RE serious. PERIOD.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I forgot the PERIOD!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

If Trump came out and just said no more gun control, I would be waving a Trump flag and would travel to battleground states on my own dime and spend tens of thousands to make the case that he should be elected in 2024.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I’m an eternal optimist.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

There’s often a fine line between eternal optimist & chump.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Now, that wasn’t very nice.

I was being facetious.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Sadly true, however.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

So all he has to do is say it and then you trust him? After he already said it and did the opposite?

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

And he betrayed that too, thanks in large part to NRA. Again, “realistic to expect” him to honor it after more promises? Works for battered wives. Key thing is gun group members being vigilant against their own organizations’ betrayals.

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

You’ve kind of made a change in your course.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I know you have always been pro 2nd Amendment, but when I first joined (after the election) and started pointing out the things he said contrary to the 2nd Amendment, you got defensive and started pointing out his other positive attributes.

I don’t want to re-hash all that, I was just a little surprised at your comment above.

Red flag laws are among the very worst anti 2nd Amendment laws.

Last edited 3 months ago by JSNMGC
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Nope – he did some great things and had to fight off the media, hard-core totalitiarians, and establishment Republicans all at the same time. The guy has a lot of energy.

I just take the 2nd Amendment seriously and the flip flop was extremely disappointing.

There about a dozen or so people who post here regularly with whom it would great to discuss politics. Sometimes things get turned up too high too quick.

Last edited 3 months ago by JSNMGC
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

“I have substantial concern in taking action against an individual who is otherwise acting in a legal and proper manner”

Good – I wish more enforcers would just come out and say that or something similar.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Response went on hold, but to reiterate – I wish more enforcers were like that guy.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Good man. I’ve noticed that most of the snippy little NRA & RINO bitches are gone or quiet. Whew.

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Didn’t you say you will vote for him even with no change to his platform?

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

In a primary, no. In a general against Xiden, yes.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Who said give up? Not me. Bad interpretation. “A big loss many decades ago would have resulted in a long term win.” I agree, but the decision must be case by case. What I disagree with is pressuring voters to pretend you’re not by definition intentionally helping the Dem win by staying home or voting LoLibertarian. It was like pulling teeth, but now you’ve finally proffered the “Worse is Better, Comrade” solution. In some cases that strategy is too risky, like 2016 & 2020. Had LoLibertarians & other delusional moral-equivalence perfectionists had their way, we’d have a 7-2 commie-lib Supreme… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

What do you have against using a national organizaton to pressure Trump to make a commitment?

That has been my argument all along.

Just voting for him because he is less bad than Biden is giving up.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

“What do you have against using a national organizaton to pressure Trump to make a commitment?”

I’ve got nothing against that. Fully consistent with everything I’ve said.

“That has been my argument all along.”

Not really. For example:

“Just voting for him because he is less bad than Biden is giving up.”

Not necessarily. Depends on how much less bad & other consequences, which is surely why YOU voted for him in 2020. Were you “giving up”?

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Like many, I bit my lip really hard and voted for him in 2016 and held my breath. He did a lot of things I liked, but sure enough, he flip flopped on the 2nd Amendment. After 2/28/18 I became extremely active with numerous channels to get the message to him that he was pissing off a large part of his base. Right before the election, he refused to order the BATFE to stand down with their push against braced pistols and then 80% lowers. Again, I contacted people to try to get word up the chain that he really… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

No, “apology” is attributing his behavior solely to NRA. Noting NRA was a factor & partly to blame recognizes reality. Denying it is fantasy.

Fact is, but for NRA betrayal & corruption, Trump might have kept his promises & oath. That may explain Trump’s betrayal, but it does not excuse or apologize for it.

Moreover, but for NRA betrayal & corruption, Parkland would not have been a “gun free” zone so the massacre & subsequent WH meeting wouldn’t have happened. Another reason it’s critical to recognize NRA’s joint responsibility for Trump’s betrayal.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

I hold Trump 100% responsiblie for his decision to flip flop and you hold him and the NRA jointly responsible. That sound about right? It’s not fantasy to believe Trump should have rejected the NRA’s advice. I believe he should have told them he was not deviating from his pro 2nd Amendment promises. He had many resources availalbe to him to understand the issue. It’s clear to me it was a calculated move to virtue signal to white suburban women to get their votes and he believed he wouldn’t lose many votes pro 2nd Amendment crowd. If he runs in… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Polite response on hold.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Huh. Strange. They need to knock off the censorship aka “moderation”.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Not sure it’s censorship – it may be some automatic hold relating to writing style or something. That was one theory that a very good person once suggested.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

“We don’t like your style” is censorship. Meanwhile they like Jimmy’s “What the Fuck is wrong with you” style.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

I think the person was indicating it was something in the purchased software that they couldn’t figure out how to address. I don’t know. I believe the person was telling the truth and he acknowledged it was just a theory.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Revised reply to JSNMGC above.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
Arny
Arny
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Desantis is good. But he also locked Fl down when scam started. He was pressured & educated by Constitutionalist that he was exceeding his authority over the people (tyrant). At least he listened & acted accordingly. If he keeps it up he will be a great President. Should he run.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Arny

Yep. That’s why I was hot for Kristi Noem until she vetoed that tranny sports bill behind a bunch of bullshit doubletalk. As you say, DeSantis got with the program pretty quick unlike dildo Abbot. I do believe his heart’s in the right place and he ACTS on it.

I’d still be down for DeSantis-Noem. Maybe better yet, DeSantis-Robinson.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

LOL, you took advantage and put in a plug for your handle. Good move. Thanks for the laugh, you pulled a check mate.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Lift weights and hike for the body.

Play chess for the mind.

More years of high-quality life is the result.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Good solid advice.

Arny
Arny
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Good homegrown food in moderation to feed the body & mind. Healthy foods go a long way with your suggestions. Eating healthy & staying active is key.

Last edited 3 months ago by Arny
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

I am not sure executive order is always the answer. We had the house, senate and presidency. Beyond that what more do you need other than an idiot that stands in the middle saying that “HE” felt it wouldn’t have passed so “HE” held it from going to the floor. “HE” has and had too much power to make the decision for WE the People. I just hope that if we ever get the trifecta again that they don’t play games and vote constitutional carry across the land. If they don’t we should all be looking for a new party… Read more »

JimmyS
JimmyS
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

We already have “Constitutional carry.” It’s called “the Constitution.” What the fuck is wrong with you? Stop pretending these people have any power to diminish your rights. As soon as you do that, they suddenly don’t. It’s damned miraculous that way.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyS

You are in dream land. If you were paying attention you would have realized that the laws of the constitution has been stolen away from us. If we really had the constitution in tact as it should be we wouldn’t have this fight on our hands and it is because they do have the power to diminish our rights and have done so and are doing so today that we are having this fight. I understand that mentally you can take the position that you do but the effect of that doe’s not change the current situation at hand. It… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyS

Another JimmyS thug comment substitutes F-bombs for reason. They make your argument no more compelling than exclamation points or all CAPS!!!!

Step AWAY from the fairy-tales & get real. ‘They’ have enormous power to diminish your rights & your life. Believing otherwise doesn’t magically make it so.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyS

Do you carry on an airplane?

I’m guessing Musicman44mag has a decent innate sense of risk management. He carries when there is a significant threat of being harmed by violent non-government employees and he doesn’t carry when he concludes the risk is higher that his life will be ruined or ended by a low IQ, emotional government employee.

Sounds logical to me.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I doubt it. Jimmy’s a Chatroom Commando. All Tiger Talk, No Tiger.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

More dangerous than any grizzly.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I carry all the time even in gun free zones because I don’t acknowledge that they are constitutional and because they will not take responsibility for my welfare while on there premises. I never go where I cannot take my gun and I never leave it in my car. I would contact the court if I had to go there and let them know that I am coming armed and I want to check in my weapon before ever showing up if need be. I have my wife go in the bank for me but if I do need to… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

You choose not to take commercial airline flights and you choose not to go to other places with similar enforcement procedures, as is your right and it’s understandable.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Waiting for approval.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

I like Boebert but she needs some experience.

Noem had me till she pandered to the tranny set (& big tech), vetoed a bill that would’ve stopped he-shes competing as shes in college sports. Her excuses for that were full of doubletalk & nonsense.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Gave you the thumbs up. I felt the same way as you about Noem but then after research and analysis I determined that her not taking the position was because she could have been overridden by the ACLU and it’s backers (Antifags, BLM etc.) with their panty waste outcries so she didn’t and is waiting, like I am doing, for the supreme court to make a decision. This is not over yet. If obiden does write an executive order then I am sure the court will hear it. In the mean time it is up to individual states. I support… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by musicman44mag
Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Noem’s alleged fear of the ACLU made no sense as a reason not to sign and play it out. She said she could do the same thing by EO, but she didn’t. And EOs are even more subject to being overturned by courts, plus the next governor can reverse them. I think it’s clear she caved, despite the lame excuses. It’s a shame, she was by far the best Gov as to Covid. Still, I’m openminded. I’ve stopped promoting her, but if it turns out to be DeSantis/Noem, I’m surely on board. Palin’s comparatively an airhead. Still licks up to… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Ok. I am down with your thoughts but in reality it really doesn’t make any difference, YET!. Let’s just hope that who ever we have that they are not a RINO and someone that will get constitutional carry across the line. Republicans of the past IMO were so worried about having a good upstanding citizen for president for years and broke the mold when they elected President Trump. Finally we stepped down off of the moral high horse. I pray that when the next election comes that we get a president that will get down and play the same game… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by musicman44mag
Sisu
Sisu
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Switch your internet browser to Firefox.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Sisu

Thanks for the suggestion.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

P.S. America First Legal is a great group that is adding censorship to the issues on its plate. https://www.aflegal.org/news/following-disturbing-admission-by-biden-white-house-afl-foias-the-biden-administration-about-its-directions-to-social-media-companies-to-censor-americans

So far they’ve focused with success in fighting Xiden’s racist policies.

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
3 months ago
Reply to  PMinFl

Your search engine doesn’t have a damn thing to do with viewing a video unless you have configured it to also provide filtering.

Just learn how to work your computer and stop blaming everything on some grand conspiracy. Maybe it’s time to loosen your tin foil hat just a bit.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

True. But it does have to do with whether you can find a video.

incorrigible
incorrigible
3 months ago
Reply to  PMinFl

Duck Duck Go blocked it for me too. Said because of Facebook tracking, and offered an unblock option, which did not try.

Bozz
Bozz
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Duck duck go has blocked this facebook video, allegedly to keep FB from tracking me. But it gives me the option to unblock it. I don’t even use DDG.

Last edited 3 months ago by Bozz
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Bozz

Mine doesn’t even give me an option and I have all the blockers on you can have and still get information. It’s out of control and needs to be reined in.

Druggie capital of the USA, OreGONE<

Bozz
Bozz
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Dump the MS Edge. Use Firefox.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Bozz

Actually Firefox may be worse than MS: https://www.eutimes.net/2021/01/thousands-are-uninstalling-firefox-after-developers-demand-total-internet-censorship/ “Mozilla, developer of Firefox, says more must be done to keep Trump & ‘bad actors’ out of cyberspace, prompting many to vow to never use the group’s services again. In a post titled ‘We need more than deplatforming’, Mozilla said Twitter’s perma-ban on Trump didn’t go far enough to weed out internet ‘hate’. While blaming Trump for the ‘siege & take-over’ on 1/6, the non-profit tech group said ‘white supremacy is about more than one personality.’ ” Also, Mozilla browsers are based on MS browsers, so you have to trust the Mozilla’s… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

I don’t use firefox because it is not supported or recognized by my virus software in addition to when I looked into it 6 years ago it was written by programmers and it was open to back door entrance. I installed it on windows seven and had nothing but viruses constantly hit me.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Bozz

Thanks, I can’t believe that I was able to watch it on my phone. Now that I have seen it I understand why they blocked it. It mentions God and shows a guy shooting a gun and talks about freedom. The three no no’s that are no longer aloud because only republican terrorists believe in that stuff.

Ya, right!!!!! In that case, thank God for the terrorists that founded our country.

Oregone bla bla bla druggies bla bla bla

JimmyS
JimmyS
3 months ago
Reply to  Bozz

Firefox sold out over a decade ago.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Bozz

Try metager. DDG is owned by commie-lib Democrats.

Last edited 3 months ago by Russn8r
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Russn8r

I tired and couldn’t get it to work. MS says it is unsecured. Do you think they might be lying to me and trying to influence where I go? If that’s the case, a law suit is in order.

OreGONE<

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

My op-sys is Windows 10. I had no problem using metager through “Brave”, and making metager my default search engine. Don’t know what to tell you. Maybe someone else does, or hire a consultant. Doesn’t cost all that much. Just need to find a conservative consultant.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Find some local IT guy, MM. You’ve probably got something else going on – probably an easy fix.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Yep, I know how to change the web browser and or the system from Microsoft edge to exploder and so forth. I just hate all the time it takes to make sure that it is working right with my virus software etc.

Thanks for the help though. My phone doesn’t seem to have the same problem and it uses Chrome which I thought was MS. Take care.

Arny
Arny
3 months ago
Reply to  Bozz

I did it worked fine

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

NONSENSE! — I am watching the video in Microsoft Edge right now. IF the video didn’t play on your computer is was because of some setting you have on the computer or some software you have loaded on your computer, but it was not Microsoft Edge blocking the video.

The video is on facebook of all places – and AmmoLand is just accessing it in a frame. You can watch the video directly on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2903618153259929

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

Don’t have fakebook but you could be right. I have my blockers set very high and get blocked from some content without opening them all the time. On the other hand I don’t get all the pop up trash and they are not able to track where I have been or what I am looking for if I go with duk duk so I don’t get adds for stuff I have already bought. Thanks for sharing.

OreGONE<

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

I wish there was a politically neutral, trustworthy alternative to Microsoft and Mozilla. I don’t trust either one of them. The folks who run Mozilla revealed their fascist leanings. And Microsoft, don’t get me started.

Boom
Boom
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Mine played through.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Boom

It must be all the filters I have in place.

Cam
Cam
3 months ago

Baton Rouge is 5 and New Orleans is 6 for murders per capa in the US. So I don’t see how allowing everyone who want to carry and not just the criminals who don’t care and are breaking the law will make it less safe.
I wouldn’t take advice from law enforcement from these areas. They have proven record of not being able to protect.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Cam

Same in WY with constitutional carry. Enforcers were besides themselves about the prospect of losing control.

We just don’t shoot each other over footwear, lack of “respect,” and all the other insane reasons that people in dysfunctional cultures shoot each other over.

There were some Texans who were getting loud at the Mountain States Stockdog Association National Finals yesterday, but they seemed to be having a good time. No one shot them.

Russn8r
Russn8r
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

You can be sure corrupt NRA is letting Edwards get away with it.

Ryben Flynn
Ryben Flynn
3 months ago

All the claims the Dems tell about “blood will run in the streets” and it will be “the wild, wild West all over again” have never happened.
The West was actually not all that wild with gun fights.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

“Don’t believe them, don’t fear them, don’t ask anything of them.” 

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago

Can you provide more information on this statement:

“Caldera has part of the law he is talking about in this audio incorrect when he says the cops will stop and search based upon whims.”

I’m not aware of any state in which some cops will not stop and search based on whims. Of course, they will always claim it’s not a whim. The crime of looking “suspicious” is one of the more popular cover-ups for whims.

Cops do, and will, stop people based on whims because there is rarely any personal consequence of doing so.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Thank you.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Have you seen any cases where the cop’s actions are seen as so egregious by the courts that they conclude their not-so-qualified immunity does not apply, and then the victim sues them (even though the cop doesn’t have much in the way of assets) as a matter of pure principle and ruins his life: loses the $5K in equity he has in his home, loses his cars, wife divorces him because she’s sick of his shit and takes the kids, he moves into a shitty apartment, he is forced to work in the private sector (eek!), etc.? That’s really the… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Thanks again.

Most people just want to be left alone and want to return to the days of being cordial with peace officers and having mutual respect. The good apples really should speak up.

Superman
Superman
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

They do speak up. You just can’t or won’t hear them. And you are the LAST person to be yammering about showing respect.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Respect is a two way street, thug.

Act like an authoritarian asshole and no “good apples” intervene and after a while your group starts being treated as assholes.

Enforcers have proven that change cannot come from within – they are simply incapable of it. They lie, destroy evidence, fabricate evidence, and intimidate.

Until more bad apples start losing their homes and cars and their spouses take off with the kids, nothing will change.

Enforcers need to be on a really short leash – a leash held by non-government employees.

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

How many supermen (I really can’t stop laughing at how you see yourself) stood and watched or knew about this asshole while he commited crimes:

https://www.wjhg.com/2021/07/14/former-deputy-zachary-wester-sentenced-more-than-12-years-planting-drugs/

Enjoy jail.

Superman
Superman
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Your ignorance regarding police work is monumental. Sounds like you got a (deserved) traffic ticket at one time and can’t get over same.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Standard Ar15.com cop response.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

The good LEOs must absolutely loath him.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago

Too bad those honest Louisana “red state” sheriffs lobbied against “constitutional carry.”

“Boy, I can git ya a carry permit, but ya gotta understand . . . ”

I wonder how many of the enforcers who enthsiastically followed orders to confiscate firearms during Katrina are still “serving.”

Superman
Superman
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

You are a typical anti-police putz. 364 days a year you scream: “fu*k the police!”. But that one day of the year your fat azz is in a jam you scream: “help, police, heeeeelp!” What a dolt.

APG member
APG member
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

In a free society I use my gun or call my security firm. Having once called the police following a theft, they took a report and did NOTHING. True cliche: when seconds count, 911 is minutes away. I have no need of your police, or your resulting police state we live in. I wonder if you rely on them for spousal dispute resolution.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

I’m pro good police you simpleton.

When “bad apples” beat elderly women and steal their firearms and all the “good apples” help or stand and watch, it makes me wonder how many good apples there are.

You should have spent more time trying to be a good apple and speaking out against the other bad apples way back when.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Supermen:

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread275158/pg1

Where were all the motherfxcking good apples?

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I remember watching this shortly after it happened. I was shocked. They went crazy and over reacted over nothing.

OreGONE<

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

She probably told them she wasn’t giving up her gun and they just couldn’t deal with someone disrespecting their perceived authority.

Again, though, it could just be a couple bad apples, but where were all the good apples?

Why did no enforcer draw his firearm, point it at that bastard and tell him he was under arrest?

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Gotta love those “red state” supermen – they are on “our side” woot!

Again, was “officer” Carlos’ boss a good apple? No, he went right along with the lies – why not?

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

I know, let’s let the supermen decide who gets to carry firearms – they’re professionals. They would know how to keep firearms out of the “wrong hands”

https://www.tacticalshit.com/californias-concealed-carry-laws-enable-graft-and-corruption/

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

What do you do when there is “just one bad apple?” Send in the supermen:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-no-charges-lapd-shooting-newspaper-delivery-women-dorner-manhunt-20160127-story.html

Just don’t deliver newspapers near them – they are scared to death of the sound of a newspaper hitting the concrete and they will all open up and shoot over 100 rounds at: newspaper deliver ladies, nearby homes, whatever – why not?

No problem – just need a little more “training.”

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Who’s going to protect the children from modified rifles? Supermen!

https://historycollection.com/20-graphic-images-waco-siege-1993/

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

What do you do when a private citizen won’t spy on white supremacists? No problem, just hire someone to entrap him and bring down the weight of the federal and local government supermen:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?66973-1/ruby-ridge-investigation-day-1-part-1

Lie, lie, lie

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

What do you do when mostly violent rioters are murdering, assaulting, burning, intimidating, looting, and vandalizing? Call the supermen! That one day a year when you really need them, they will arrest this guy: https://www.moms.com/police-with-no-gloves-no-mask-arrest-father-for-playing-with-daughter-at-the-park/ and abandon their police station to the mostly violent rioters. Don’t criticize them for allowing businesses to be burned and citizens to be beaten. They were just following orders. You gotta understand, if they refuse to follow orders to leave violent rioters alone, they might get fired – the horror! Superman is sitting on his fat ass enjoying his pension making up fantasies about heroic… Read more »

JimmyS
JimmyS
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

You’re on a roll!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyS

That extra cup always does it. Should have just gone out and enjoyed the beautiful weather, but I felt an obligation. : )

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

No, he lives in constitutional carry land and doesn’t need to call until after the problem is solved so they can come take the report and haul away the criminal.

OreGONE<

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  Superman

I will post this reply again because for some reason it disappeared.

JSNMGC lives in a constitutional carry state. He calls the police after he has resolved the issue to have them take a report and haul away the criminal.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
3 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Thanks. Actually had to do that once and made damn sure I wasn’t holding the firearm when the enforcers arrived.

Edited to add: No shots fired and the bad guy was arrested.

Last edited 3 months ago by JSNMGC
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

A perfect scenario. Wish they could all turn out that way.

OreGONE!!!!!!>>>>>>>

Stag
Stag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I see blue isis is at it again.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
3 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Or what they got promoted to for following orders.
OreGONE<