California: San Diego Resident Sentenced for Firearms & Silencer Charges

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SAN DIEGO – -(AmmoLand.com)- Grey Zamudio, a San Diego resident who has expressed racist and violent extremist sentiments on social media, was sentenced in federal court today to 24 months in custody for possessing a short barrel rifle and two silencers, none of which was registered as required by law.

Zamudio pleaded guilty on December 1, 2020, to all three counts of possession of an unregistered rifle with a barrel of less than 16 inches and two unregistered silencers in violation of the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Act.

As the government noted at Zamudio’s detention hearing in this matter, “There are really no legitimate uses for silencers, other than to kill people. They are not used in hunting. They are not used for recreation purposes.”

The government’s sentencing memorandum notes that the circumstances of Zamudio’s crimes underscore the danger that he continues to pose to the public. The memo said Zamudio is motivated by a violent ideology and appears eager to commit acts of violence against Black people, liberals, and others. The FBI was alerted to Zamudio by a tipster who viewed his social media posts, which included statements about “the need for ‘vigilante militias’” and “to crush the liberal terrorists” and that Zamudio was “ready to die” for his beliefs. These statements, together with the allegation that Zamudio had multiple firearms, were apparently so alarming that they led the tipster to share this information with the FBI, which then led to further investigation, including court authorization to search Zamudio’s telephone.

“This defendant has demonstrated a very troubling violent ideology, an intent to harm people, a lack of remorse, and a willingness to illegally possess firearms,” said Acting U.S. Attorney Randy Grossman. “For these reasons, he continues to pose a threat to public safety.”

Grossman commended the work of prosecutors Timothy F. Salel and Jonathan I. Shapiro as well as the Joint Terrorism Task Force, including FBI and ATF agents and San Diego Police Department detectives and officers who worked on this matter. Grossman also urged anyone with information about similar threats made on social media to report it to authorities.

According to the complaint, on August 1, 2020, agents executed federal court-authorized search warrants on Zamudio’s apartment and truck. During the search of the apartment, agents seized two silencers and the short barrel rifle. As the FBI executed the court-authorized search, the San Diego Police Department served Zamudio with a California State Gun Violence Restraining Order (“GVRO”) based on recent threats of violence in numerous social media posts by Zamudio. Pursuant to the GVRO, the San Diego Police Department (SDPD) seized another rifle (in addition to the short barrel rifle seized by the agents), two pistols, a large number of magazines, and several hundred to several thousand rounds of ammunition.

The sentencing memo said Zamudio’s text messages provide a window into his motivations and intentions. In one text dated June 5, 2020, Zamudio apparently boasted about getting ’to pull my Glock on a n**** (racial epithet) last Thurs…” On July 30, 2020, two days before his arrest in this matter, Zamudio posted a screenshot of a Tweet in which he stated, “They trying to dox me lol. I’m really hoping to get to kill someone finally.’” A couple of weeks earlier, on June 13, 2020, the Zamudio texted, “Tomorrow they gunna riot in la mesa again, wanna join the Patriots an smash on some BLM?”

The review of the Zamudio’s phone led to the prosecution of Cody Richard Griggers, now a former deputy sheriff in Georgia. Zamudio and Griggers exchanged messages on a Facebook group. In one exchange, Griggers indicated his desire to use his status as a law enforcement officer to get flashbangs and entry charges, and Zamudio responded, “’yeah I’ll pay big money for bang and boom . . . I’m ready to terrorize la.”

Violent ideology and illegal firearms are a dangerous combination. According to the sentencing memo, in a January 19, 2019, response to texts about how to improve the country, Zamudio wrote, “Assassinate the bad politians (sic), i feel as though we are protected under the Constitution to do so.”

“Mr. Zamudio’s violent, threatening posts on social media led to serious concern for the safety of those who wished to exercise their first amendment right of peaceful protest, and I’m proud we were able to intervene so quickly,” said FBI Special Agent in Charge Suzanne Turner. “Thanks to a tip from the public, the San Diego FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force mitigated the threat within 72 hours. The FBI and our law enforcement partners will use all available tools to detect and disrupt threats which put our communities in danger. This case demonstrates the importance of the public immediately reporting any suspicious activity or threats they encounter to enable law enforcement to act quickly.”

“This investigation is a great example of cooperation between law enforcement agencies to keep our communities safe,” said San Diego Police Chief David Nisleit. “I want to thank the officers, detectives, and agents who worked together on this case to prevent a potential act of gun violence.”

SUMMARY OF CHARGES                        Case Number 20CR2451

Grey Zamudio                                                 Age: 33

Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5861(d), 5845(a)(3), 5845(a)(7), and 5871 – Receipt and Possession of Firearms (One Short Barrel Rifle and Two Silencers) in Violation of the National Firearms

Registration and Transfer Act

Maximum Penalty: Ten years in prison, $250,000 fine

INVESTIGATING AGENCIES

  • Joint Terrorism Task Force
  • Federal Bureau of Investigation
  • Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
  • San Diego Police Department

Los Angeles Field Division


Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives

ATF is the federal law enforcement agency responsible for investigating violations of the federal firearms and explosives laws and regulations. More information about ATF and its programs can be found at www.atf.gov.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ( ATF )

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
26 days ago

Grossman commended the work of prosecutors Timothy F. Salel and Jonathan I. Shapiro as well as the Joint Terrorism Task Force, including FBI and ATF agents and San Diego Police Department detectives and officers who worked on this matter.

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
27 days ago

Under the governments reasoning about silencers I guess I will never have to buy another muffler for my truck as it serves no purpose according to them, think that will stand up in court.

gregs
gregs
27 days ago

with all the bitching and crying, i feel like i am in high school again listening to chicks complaining about each other.
un-wad you panties and grow a pair.
y’all make these comments unbearable.

2gats
2gats
28 days ago

FUCK THE ATF, their families and the people that support them!

why does Ammoland take their bullshit propaganda pieces?

NOT OUR FRIENDS, Period!

Russn8r
Russn8r
27 days ago
Reply to  2gats

If ATF pays to post these, great. AL needs the $. No chance of convincing us they shouldn’t be disbanded.

Last edited 27 days ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
26 days ago
Reply to  2gats

Because a lot of posters believe the problem is just politicians and federal enforcers when the problem obviously includes state, county, city/town enforcers and the military.

These articles bring attention to the problem for those people who are stuck in some nostalgic loop of honoring the groups of people who will be the ones who oppress them.

All enforcers involved need to be in the spotlight as enforcement actions pick up.

swmft
swmft
28 days ago

what a load of CRAPOLA atf needs to be gone suppressors have no use but to kill????? I have only seen 1 or tow you could kill someone with they would have to be long and hard to break a skull a pencil in the ear or eye is easier As the government noted at Zamudio’s detention hearing in this matter, “There are really no legitimate uses for silencers, other than to kill people. They are not used in hunting. They are not used for recreation purposes.” the two things people would like to use them for government says no… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
26 days ago
Reply to  swmft

I think Texas has been behind the curve, but suppressors are legal and used for hunting. I usually shoot at public ranges where other people’s gunfire negates much of the benefit – yet i’ve encountered multiple people using them.
i know other states differ, but suppressors ARE legal for everything in many states. :). Sorry for those of you for which this is not the case.

Arny
Arny
28 days ago

In his own defense he has proven to be innocent. Exactly who did he shoot ? Hell he didn’t even take his own life as stated. Free Speech is a right to all. Whether you like what he says or not. Until he acts he is innocent. Peaceful protest include burning, destruction of private property & trampling on another rights ? Where were those arrest ?

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Terry
Terry
28 days ago
Reply to  Arny

Yep! Why aren’t they locking up the ANTIFA and BLM ass wipes? Their social media accounts are full of far worse crap. Oh, wait! Maybe that’s because they’re directed at people of different pigmentation.

Terry
Terry
27 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Thanks for continuing to prove my point RUMP RANGER!

nobodyuknow
nobodyuknow
28 days ago

The statement by the government of The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia concerning supressors in this case is truly indicative of how stupid they really are! Whoever is responsible for the statement that supressors have no legitimate use other than to kill people is indicative of a bias that has no basis in fact. I use mine for hunting and recreational shooting all of the time and so do most other people who own them. They also obviate the need for hearing protection, which is a tremendous advantage. It is no wonder that Kalifornia is so screwed up!!!

Boris Badenov
Boris Badenov
28 days ago
Reply to  nobodyuknow

They get suppressors and suppositories confused. Both have their uses but the fools in CA DOJ need the latter.

BOB
BOB
28 days ago

Yadda yadda yadda….keyboard warriors.

Terry
Terry
28 days ago
Reply to  BOB

You got that right. I am so sick of these pissy little girl fights I can’t tell you.

Terry
Terry
27 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Thanks for proving my point RUMP RANGER!

Arizona
Arizona
28 days ago

Shocker : the gov lied and claimed without evidence that suppressors are not used in hunting or recreational sports. Incompetent And Ignorant gov employees.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
28 days ago

Cans are bad just ask Trump because he don’t like them, Looool.

Russn8r
Russn8r
28 days ago

Trump’s many things, but he’s no racist or bigot.

Arny
Arny
28 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Where did he say he was ? It’s not in his current comment.

Russn8r
Russn8r
27 days ago
Reply to  Arny

Guess you never heard the old racist joke about Mexi-cans.

Finnky
Finnky
29 days ago

The arrested individual does not sound like an upstanding individual – however a good lawyer should be able to get him off on charges for failure to register or pay tax. Cannot pay tax without registering and registration requires self incrimination. Courts have already ruled in similar situations for less serious charges.

Russn8r
Russn8r
29 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

“Name-calling violates Ammoland rules.”

“You’re an ignorant liar, pathetic slave, loyalist, worse than a Redcoat, turncoat, worm, not even a snake, betrayed the principles on which the USA was founded.”

“Democracies Rule. Republics Suck. The USA’s a Republic. The USA sucks.”

“God & the Constitution say we must OBEY all laws & orders until the SupCt says otherwise.”

~JeanLloydSchartre

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

It appears that those ammoland rules are in name only, and not actually enforced, doesn’t it? 🙂

I Haz A Question
I Haz A Question
28 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Not that I’ve seen. But not as bad as some other sites.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago

Agreed. Other sites are worse. One in particular that we both know of! 🙂
How’s Haz these days? Haven’t seen you here in a while…

I Haz A Question
I Haz A Question
28 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I’ve been here all the while. This site and the “other” one are the two I visit pretty much every day, for almost three years now. I’ve read your past comments and finally decided it was time to get back into the Ammoland side of things. BTW, another person who was “away” from that other site (not by his own choice) recently resumed commenting, and said such “time outs” imposed apparently last six months, as his logon was suddenly active again at the six month mark. Just something to think about. The mix of people are a bit different than… Read more »

Knute
Knute
28 days ago

I’ll do that. I’d like to see if that applies to me too… or if they’ve made me persona non grata forever! 🙂

Knute
Knute
25 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Yup. Persona non grata there still. I did post as voldimort, but “knute” is still disallowed. Now I wonder if even mentioning the name would still get censored? Seems as if that would have to be done manually. They could, OFC, program a filter to even disallow any use of the word, but that would also catch any larger word with those letters in it. That seems pretty excessive, but then, I don’t know of any other word with those letters inside of it. It’s quite an unusual name. That’s why I chose it. Every other user name I tried… Read more »

Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Strangelove
28 days ago

What’s the “other site?” Worth looking at?

swmft
swmft
28 days ago

cant believe you have an opinion that would upset someone

I Haz A Question
I Haz A Question
27 days ago

TTAG

Good site, slightly different mix of articles than Ammoland. No username registration or logon required to comment, so there are a few trolls and anklebiters, but the conversations can be robust, even bust-your-sides funny. You can tell who the legit users are because they have personal Gravatars (such as I do with my yellow face icon). There’s one troll who changes his/her/its name on a constant basis, but everyone still knows who it is.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I have not told one lie about you and you know it. All I’ve ever done is draw attention to your actions! I don’t judge… but I DO note actions.
You are the one making up insults all the time. The “clownshoes” that you hate so much is actually a compliment, because you’re the only funny clown I’ve ever seen. I don’t see the humor in a fake water bucket full of confetti, but thinking that guns have muzzles at both ends… THAT I find hilarious! 😀

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

So then you think this is NOT attempted SWATing? “betrayed the principles on which the USA was founded.”
That is an accusation of treason, is it not?
At this point, Ammoland should step in and reveal your activities to the FBI…. 🙂

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Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

But it IS the first time you’ve ever heard the word “muzzle”! Evidence: even after looking it up, you think its related to a dog’s nose and mouth area! Obviously you only read the first definition, but, equally obviously, we were talking about firearms. Just in case you aren’t aware of it, this IS a site solely about guns. That’s why its called ammoland, numb nuts. What did you think, that its all about a land where an animal called an “ammo” lives? And even if you ARE that dim, the fact that I wrote: “a firearms dangerous end”, and:… Read more »

Last edited 27 days ago by Knute
Tionico
Tionico
27 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

we must OBEY all laws & orders nope. ONLY those laws enacted by CONGRESS that are consistent with the US Constitution and all laws enacted thst are consistent with that. All other things masquerading as “law” are null, void, of no effect, and to be ignored. Yhe NFA ints entirety is NOT consistent with the letter nor intent of the US COnstitution. n WHAT basis other than arbitrary and capricious does FedGov “define” a rifle with a 16 inch barrel as “permissible” to posses,s but one of 15 15/16 inch length is prohibied withut first complying wiht prior restriaints (regustration and a… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
27 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

“The Constitution & New Testament say we must OBEY all authority, laws & orders unless & until the SupCt says otherwise.” ~Schartre

“nope. ONLY laws enacted by CONGRESS that are consistent with the Constitution. All other things masquerading as “law” are null, void, of no effect, to be ignored.” -Tionico

Not according to JeanLordSchartre. Please address your comment to His Assholiness. I agree with you.

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Russn8r
Russn8r
27 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Fascinating.

Arizona
Arizona
28 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

No such thing as thought crimes. Only a communist would propose they exist.

Finnky
Finnky
28 days ago
Reply to  Arizona

However a wise man chooses his battles. Babble about violence online and you may find yourself in a fight you did not select. If someone truly wishes to do harm, if they are smart they keep their mouth shut and fingers off the keyboard. Keep secret plans secret – if you share them you are sharing them with your opposition. In asymmetric warfare, stealth is king. Ever read FBI commentary on terrorists? They don’t really fear organized groups as most are incapable of keeping secrets. They don’t really fear people like individual staring in this article because he ratted himself… Read more »

Tionico
Tionico
27 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony

your own words. See word “engage”. That means ACTION. No longer thought alone. ACTION.

Fail

Finnky
Finnky
26 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

From your post “intent”. Does not require actual action occur, only that effort is made to incite action.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Arizona

A communist with clownshoes 20 feet long! 😀

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Then why do you spout the communist philosophies?

Tionico
Tionico
27 days ago
Reply to  Arizona

having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them,

your own words again. COMMISSION of any felony. This isACTION not thought.

Fail again

DDS
DDS
29 days ago

“They are not used in hunting.”

Actually, some European hunters are REQUIRED to use a suppressor.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  DDS

The US is a Republic in name only (like the ammoland rule against insults that you violate a LOT, without consequence). It was Franklin Roosevelt that ordered the Printing Office to remove the word “Republic” and replace it with the word “Democracy”, from all US government documents, in 1933.
And now we are left with sheeple that don’t know the difference.

Russn8r
Russn8r
28 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Schart thinks Bible & Constitution oblige Unlimited Submission to Authority yet he constantly defecates on AmmoLand’s rules.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Typical of the social ‘justice’ ‘warriors’ (a couple of different <sics> in that one!). Rules for thee, but not for me… is the creed these SJWs live by.

swmft
swmft
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

scotus needs to rule gun control act unconstitutional armed society no fights over masks they will just keep their distance how nice

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

No, you didn’t. What you SAY is irrelevant, because you make your crap up on the fly. I only talk about what you DO. If I call attention to your babble, I quote you directly. Maybe your giant shoes noticed? They obviously have a higher IQ than you do. 🙂

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
27 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

,
Are you sure because I was taught that God gives us the free will to do his will or to do evil. We can all choose hell if we want to.
Regarding the Constitution, you have the free will to refuse. We can all choose to leave if we want to.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Knute

A misquote is NOT a lie clownshoes… no matter what crap you make up.
Besides that, the authorship of that quote is in dispute. They do say that at monticello org, but goodreads attributes it to Jefferson: Just FYI, When two sources disagree, THAT is a disputed claim.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7718792-a-democracy-is-nothing-more-than-mob-rule-where-fifty-one

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I didn’t say it was truth, that’s just you babbling nonsense again. I said the authorship was in dispute. That means that SOMEBODY said it, but the world isn’t exactly certain just who it was. Whoever said it, though, I agree.
Reading comprehension. It’s a thing.
Learn it. <not bloody likely>
Know it. <Ha! Fat chance of that>
Live it <I think you live only to trash others and say LIAR over and over again, ad nauseum>

swmft
swmft
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

fdr was an autocrat, chose Truman because he was stupid simpleton (which he was not) kept everyone in dark should never have been president

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  swmft

FDR was also a crime boss, even though he got away with it. He and the depression were instrumental in the destruction of the De Jure Republic, and its replacement by our current De Facto Democracy that lord scarfington is so in love with. Its all documented in this book from 1945:
https://www.amazon.com/Real-F-D-R-Philip-Foner/dp/B002E29ZJ4

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Yeah, I’m so attracted to you that I was talking to swmft. Or is he one of your sock puppets and you made yourself confused? 🙂

JimmyS
JimmyS
26 days ago
Reply to  swmft

FDR and Truman were both 33rd Degree Freemasons. THAT is why they ran together. You calling people stupid simpletons is the height of irony.

Arizona
Arizona
28 days ago
Reply to  DDS

You imply you don’t live here, or under the same rules. The rest if the time, you whine about being a victim, despite admitting you worked for the government you claim to despise and even worked as a prison guard. You just can’t keep it all straight. Sad.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  Arizona

That’s the problem with liars. After a bit they start contradicting their own selves. They can’t keep all their lies straight. A Japanese told Pappy Boyington that when he was captured in the South Pacific in WW2.
If I remember his book properly, it was on the Jap submarine that brought him in. The officer advised him that under questioning, to make up any story he wanted, just stick to it and don’t change it.

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Its all in here:
https://www.amazon.com/Baa-Black-Sheep-Inscribed/dp/B000SO2C86/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1RPWJQ0ZRTLUT&dchild=1&keywords=baa+baa+black+sheep&qid=1630210532&s=books&sprefix=baa+baa%2Cstripbooks%2C238&sr=1-7
OFC, with your comprehension level, I wouldn’t recommend it. Its a bit more advanced a read than; “See Spot Run”!

Knute
Knute
26 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I not only read every word more than once, I have my own copy. It’s not an inscribed copy though.
How else would I know that he was actually called: “Gramps” and not “Pappy”? Obviously I wasn’t around in 1943!

Knute
Knute
26 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I can prove it in any number of other ways too. Details like; He was under pressure to break the Marine Corp record and went down in the fight that did it, It was on his third and last combat tour since he was being rotated home, and he ended up in a special prison camp that did not report to the Red Cross, so he was declared dead (which is the only reason they gave him a Medal of Honor… the Corp detested him) and got his one and only medal posthumously… they thought! I’ll bet that was quite… Read more »

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Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Arizona

Would that be where you learned that guns have muzzles on both ends??? 😀

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

So where DID you learn that foolishness then, oh Mr. know-it-all who follows me everywhere?

swmft
swmft
27 days ago
Reply to  DDS

we should also require use in areas within 2 miles of dwelling ,keep the noise levels as low as possible. shoot for 60bd at property line that is what most sound laws say so we should do our best too, to keep noise down

OldHand
OldHand
29 days ago

Good heavens, is the judge totally out of touch. > There are really no legitimate uses for silencers, other than to kill people. They are not used in hunting. They are not used for recreation purposes.” The hell they aren’t. One of the people featured on “Life Below Zero” lives in the Brooks Range in Alaska where his nearest neighbor is more than 40 miles away (he walks everywhere). The last few years he spent on the show, his rifle aways had a noise suppressor. How many hunters in the lower 48? I don’t know, but occasional articles suggest that… Read more »

OldHand
OldHand
29 days ago
Reply to  OldHand

I’ll retract my last sentence; I mistook the quote as coming from the judge not the government’s agent (who should be fired for making such a gross misstatement.)

Knute
Knute
28 days ago
Reply to  OldHand

The “better sealing” of revolvers has been tried already a hundred years ago, and has failed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh1mojMaEtM

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Now you’ve gone beyond humorously stupid into just being a moron. OFC that gun was adopted. Failed only means that that experiment was never repeated by Russia, or any other country either. Because it failed at its intended purpose (which was to get more velocity at the same pressure… not to be silenced) and the added cost, complexity, and slow reloading was obviously counterproductive. IF it had been a successful design, it would’ve been copied all over the place, the way the 1911, the Garand, the AR, the AK etc. have been. Is your brain truly so far gone that… Read more »

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

What the hell, I’ll give it a try.
Russian’s get gun. Gun strange and not do what said would. Russians get new gun. Never try this idea again… ever.
Can cavemanspeak get inside head?
🙂

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Knute
Knute
29 days ago

Something else I just noticed in there to unpack:
“There are really no legitimate uses for silencers, other than to kill people.”
Whatever government employee wrote this thinks that killing people IS a legitimate use! That is exactly what that sentence says. A Freudian slip? Screwed up and told the truth…. for once?

JimmyS
JimmyS
26 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Killing people is the defacto legitimate use for arms laid out in the 2nd Amendment. I think it is YOU that are lacking truth.

Finnky
Finnky
26 days ago
Reply to  JimmyS

Just what do you think Knute meant by “Screwed up and told the truth…. for once?” The second is there to protect arms for ALL purposes. Typically governments attempt to restrict arms due to their use (legitimate or otherwise) to kill people – but such restriction impacts all other uses as well. In eighteenth century hunting contributed substantially to some people’s survival – so ability to do so legitimately required protection. Certainly primary purpose is to retain power of the people to resist tyranny or any rule by force — but much of the beauty of the 2nd lies in… Read more »

Knute
Knute
29 days ago

“There are really no legitimate uses for silencers, other than to kill people. They are not used in hunting. They are not used for recreation purposes.”And what is the reason that suppresors aren’t used for those purposes? Because legislation makes it so difficult, that’s why!
For the few that ARE willing to jump through all of the NFA’s barriers to possession, they are used almost exclusively for those purposes. This is nothing more than a lawyer saying: “People don’t use these things…(because we’ve forbidden them to)”. But OFC they leave the part in parenthesis unsaid!

Finnky
Finnky
29 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Despite federal limitations silencers are quite popular in many states throughout the center of the country. Most stores have been sold out, or nearly sold out, throughout the pandemic buying frenzy. They are perfect for hunting, self defense, plinking and any other use one can can me up with. Biggest drawbacks are price, laws, and length added to barrel. This makes SBRs a good choice as host.

I Haz A Question
I Haz A Question
28 days ago
Reply to  Finnky

I shot a suppressed 9mm handgun recently, and it was attenuated enough that neither I nor the instructor wore ear muffs. Loud pops, yes, but not anywhere near enough to make a person flinch.

Depends upon the gun, suppressor, and ammo configuration.

Knute
Knute
28 days ago

Indeed it does.
It also pays to remember that the standardized sound level test is measured at one meter from the muzzle at a 90 degree angle. That is about the loudest possible place to measure it, and that’s why it was chosen. It’s the worst case scenario.
Behind the gun is quite a bit quieter. Thus they say that even suppressed firearms can (meaning, “it’s possible”) damage your hearing, and indeed it can, IF your ear was beside the muzzle. But that isn’t the average case.

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Tionico
Tionico
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

sound CAN be directiinal, just like light. When measured at 90 degrees to the barrel, the suppressor is directing most of the blat=st forward. So at 90 * the blat is full. Now, move back toward the firing weaponi itself, tand the form of the sound waves is directed more forward than rearward. A motorist next to a car with very loud pipes (or, more common these days, a Harley with open exhaust. how THEY get a pass is beynd me but pass they get) will hear a certain level of sound. As the bike comes even with the open… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
26 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

“(or, more common these days, a Harley with open exhaust. how THEY get a pass is beynd me but pass they get)”

In regards to Harleys or motorcycles “getting a pass” on loud pipes… THAT is a safety feature so drivers HEAR the motorcycles as MOST drivers are oblivious to motorcycles or zone out to another planet mentally trying to figure how they can move on just two wheels… Especially when a motorcycle is passing through the vehicle’s blind spot…

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Knute

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the distance doesn’t matter either… far away is the same as up close. And guns have a muzzle on both ends… and a correctional officer isn’t a guard… and everybody’s a liar… and blah, blah, blah…. 😀

I Haz A Question
I Haz A Question
27 days ago

What? Can’t hear you, JLS…I’m apparently deaf but don’t know it.

Knute
Knute
27 days ago

So now that you admit that you’ve already made yourself deaf… you blame us? And call us names? How very three year oldish of you. Gonna take your ball and go home sticking your tongue out at us too?
BTW, forget all this crap. Since you’re already deaf, why care about your hearing now?
Did you ever hear an old parable about locking up the barn after the horse has been stolen???? Only fools in clownshoes do that! 🙂

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
26 days ago

As long as the high pitch “crack” of a shot is suppressed, you are pretty well protected. It is that sharp high end crack that resonates through the hearing duct and causes the damage to the ear. Suppressors, Silencers, Mufflers, whatever you want to call them greatly works in your favor.

Ansel Hazen
28 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I’m sure said gov weasel is thinking about only one particular demographic.

Tionico
Tionico
27 days ago
Reply to  Ansel Hazen

And it is OUR job as citizens to unravel such weaselwording and get to the TRUTH at the bottom of it.

In this case, the gummit weael who was wording had one goal in view, at any cost: PUT THIS GUY BEHIND BARS FOR ASLONG AS POSSIBLE. Lies being thus justfied. Hmmm.. what is that word the members of taht certain “religious’ sect employ when they engage in prevarication to further their own goal, no metter the consequences to others? Sorta sounds like tequila, if memory serves aright……

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
26 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

@JLS, Please, please if you are going to talk jurisprudence, learn the language of the law. The word that you seek is license not privilege. Congress using its taxing authority on individual Rights is a corruption of that power. The Congress that does that and President that signs such a law knows that they will get their way for years, until such an act is struck down by the S. Ct (if that ever happens). So once again we see that it is the elitists involved in Congress, the Executive, and the S. Ct., rather than the form of government… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
26 days ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Name one day that ANY politician did not commit a felony while in the performance of their duties?

Knute
Knute
27 days ago
Reply to  Ansel Hazen

Yeah… the morons! The only people that understand him. That’s his demographic. 😀