AGK Supply Raided, Owner Charged With Conspiracy For Employee’s Action Off the Clock

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SAN DIEGO, CA -(Ammoland.com)- On October 13, 2021, the San Diego “Ghost Gun” Task Force raided a local business and the business owner’s home.

The law enforcement task force reported that they seized multiple Polymer80 kits, multiple unserialized “assault weapons,” 3D printers, “high” capacity magazines, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, and $90,000 in cash. Now due to leaks from the investigation, AmmoLand News has found out the company’s name and what has been turned up in the investigation.

The company’s name is AGK Supply. The company marketed and sold unfinished frames and receivers, and other gun parts. A temporary employee purchased a legal pistol slide and a part kits from his San Diego-based employer. He used the lower parts to complete a previously purchased Polymer80 kit. He took the completed kit and allegedly offered to sell it to a man he met online. That man turned out to be an undercover cop with the San Diego “Ghost Gun” Task Force. The offer to sell deal was not done at AGK Supply’s location and was done in the dead of night when the retailer was not open.

The task force found out that the victim of the police sting worked for the online retailer of unfinished frames and receivers. San Diego’s “Ghost Gun” Task Force then went to a judge and requested that the court issue a search warrant for AGK Supply. The courts rarely turn down search warrants, and it was no different in this case.

The San Diego “Ghost Gun” Task Force raided the company’s location and seized all of AGK Supply’s inventory, computer systems, phones, and cash. At the same time, the law enforcement task force raided the owner’s home. The police officers serving the warrant seized more money, a 3D printer, magazines, cell phones, and other firearms at the house.

The local district attorney filed conspiracy charges against the business owner. Notwithstanding the man who was busted allegedly selling the completed firearm to an undercover officer, there is no evidence that the owner of AGK Supply knew the employee would use the lower parts kit and slide to make a complete pistol that he would later try and sell.

By his own admission, the temporary employee didn’t even purchase the 80% P80 kit from the AGK Supply, but none of that matters to the “Ghost Gun” Task Force.

Normal Capacity Magzine Seized:  Any magazine holding more than ten rounds is at this moment in time, illegal in California, but there have been exceptions to the current law. Several years ago, there was something called Freedom Week. During that time a California judge issued an injunction against the ban on standard capacity magazines. Gun owners were allowed to keep any magazines obtained during that one week. There is no evidence that the company owner acquired the magazines outside freedom week.

According to sources familiar with the case that are not authorized to talk to the press, some of the so-called “assault weapons” seized were not completed rifles. Prosecutors claim some of the firearms were out of compliance with California’s complex law, other items were stripped lower receivers which law enforcement referred to as “assault lowers.”

Although the sources inside law enforcement didn’t claim that the shop owner was being targeted for running a business that sold 80% kits, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that points to AGK Supply and the company’s owner being on the watch-list of the San Diego “Ghost Gun” Task Force.

AmmoLand News has decided not to name AGK Supply’s owner to protect his privacy. The man could not comment on the charges because of pending legal action against him but confirmed that his company was targeted in the questionable raids. This time no one was hurt during the police raids.


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John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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rezstadamus

Im in a similar situation the detective who is in charge is just trying to bust anybody with a 80% that they are in the business of selling firearms, on top of that they confiscate everything that you legally own then charge with felonys that has nothing to do with a traffic stop. Thats what happen to me

USMC0351Grunt

So where is the link to the AGK Legal Defense Fund? Better yet, WHERE is the SUPPORT and DONATIONS from the 2nd Amendment community?

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Laddyboy

You are talking about the “ghost gun task force” that is working out of the IRS ILLEGALLY INSTALLED ATF/AFT bureaucracy?? This “department” was NEVER authorized by CONGRESS! THUS, it is THEIVERY UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW!!!!!!!

JSNMGC

No. John is sensitive to many of the Ammoland posters and did not indicate who the “task force” members were. They are just regular old local cops:

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/07/16/ghost-gun-task-force-n47805

Just doing the same kind of stuff the LAPD has been doing for a long time.

USMC0351Grunt

The San Diego “Ghost Gun” Task Force” limits the jurisdiction to the San Diego City limits.

Stag

Looks like government thugs committing armed robbery, aggravated kidnapping, and violation of rights to me.

JSNMGC

“We don’t have enough cops to:

  • Get those darn ghost guns;
  • Watch 17-year old ‘civilians’ stop violent rioters;
  • Stop people from legally video recording government employees in public places;
  • Shoot dogs; and
  • Arrest people for not wearing a mask while they are paddle boarding in the ocean.

Back the Blue. Support local law enforcement. Pay more taxes. Prepare to defend yourselves.”

USMC0351Grunt

It’s still WE, The People’s responsibility and duty to maintain ALL elected and appointed officials and city, county, state and federal workers to whatever office or job description they are in office for. NO WHERE in the Constitution or Constitutions of ANY state is there authority to lord any power over WE, The People, or county, city laws or ordinances give ANY official(s) ANY powers granted to them over the citizens. IF the citizens remain on their apathetic and complacent asses that KEEP ALLOWING THESE ACTIONS, THIS is what occurs. California is a known hotbed of snowflakes, fruits, vegetables, nut… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

“The right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed.” The 2A. The state government is the criminal here not the guy who sold his firearm. Any law that counters the constitution is null and void per the supreme court. See Mayburry vs Madison. There will come the day when these state and federal criminals are going to try to knock off the wrong person, the person who will uphold the law of the land, the constitution, against all enemies foreign and domestic. When tyranny becomes law………

Arm up and carry on

Boom

I just don’t, nor have I ever understood why conservatives are always so pro-law enforcement; by their own admission. . . Or, why they go around talking: “Back the Blue” nonsense. It’s such an ENORMOUS contradiction of perspective. What is there not to understand? THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. THESE AGENTS OF “THE LAW”, ARE NOT YOUR BUDDYS. They’re not. Even if you’re actually acquaintances with a cop… HES NOT YOUR FRIEND. PERIOD. HOW STUPID DO CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE? I suppose the same ppl that “back the blue”, are the same ppl you see somewhere trying to be… Read more »

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Wild Bill

I agree with what you wrote from the third paragraph on down. What experience do you have with tracks? Are you in Texas?

Rowboat

Oh, I get it – RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, so just bend over and take it up the ass , right ?
Too bad the goat f*clerks in Afghanistan and Viet Nam didn’t get the message.

Wild Bill

Not to worry, if it comes to what he is talking about we will apply what we have learned from the Big Green Machine … against them.

USMC0351Grunt

Ooh-Rah

USMC0351Grunt

That’s because they are now over HERE!

Roland T. Gunner

There are so many things wrong with this law enforcement action, I would not even know where to begin. I hope the owner gets good lawyers, both criminal defense and civil, and crushes those fuckers.

USMC0351Grunt

I suck at starting up GoFundMe things, but someone needs to immediately begin a Legal Fund Raiser and we should look at getting Alan Gotlieb and the 2nd Amendment Foundation on this IMMEDIATELY!.

Bill

“Unintended Consequences” by John Ross is a good book to read.

Wild Bill

I have it on my shelf!

Will

WB,I was just wondering if you’ve heard anything about Revelator ? He hasn’t posted on AMMOLAND in over three years that I’m aware of. He lived and breathed commenting here and then just disappeared. I remember he was commenting about problems he was having with his motorcycle and trying to get it fixed. I sure hope he’s OK and will get back online soon.

Wild Bill

I have not heard from him. It could be something as simple as his computer puked out. Lots of the gentlemen that comment here, also comment on other sites. Maybe if they run across someone by that name they could pass along a MC message.

nod

You would be a day late and a dollar short reading it now. The book should have been required reading when it first was published.

Wild Bill

No, the history recited, alone, make the book worth what ever one has to pay for it. And yes, it should be required reading! MC, brother.

Wild Bill

“PROHIBITION’S UGLY LEGACY  Three-Tier Legal Status and Three-Tier Pricing Caused by the National Firearms Act Of 1934 as Amended by the Gun Control Act of 1968  by    Professor:   Econ. 201  Date:  INTRODUCTION  A year after the 1933 repeal of Prohibition, Congress passed the National Firearms Act of 1934 and created a situation that was (and is) both unique and bizarre . The situation is unique because no other consumer good or manufactured product in the entire country is treated under the law in the same way that NFA firearms are treated. The situation is bizarre because under this law,… Read more »

Wild Bill

This is an excerpt from an excellent book mentioned, on this site, recently.

gregs

conspiracy requires that the owner of the company to have worked with the person or had knowledge of the person selling the firearm to another.
the temp should be the only one who is culpable of a crime, and possibly the task force for entrapment.
which party initiated contact about the sale of the “ghost gun” firearm?
it is illegal to sell an un-serialized firearm.

Finnky

Perhaps under state law, but federal law allows individuals to sell unserialized firearms as long as they are not “engaged in the business.” Not sure whether federal law says anything about FFLs on this topic.

————
Oh California – where it is illegal to breath wrong or to look in th3 wrong direction. Tyranny at it’s best.

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USMC0351Grunt

Wanna buy a box of plastic straws? I know a guy!

Tionico

Even if fuly acquitted, the process IS the punishment for daring to trade in things we do not like”. I hope this guy has good legal representation.This fight will take years, and cost him everyting. ALL his business assets and inventory are now stolen, he will likely be prohibited getting more, and likely does not have the cash to replace what they stole so he can get going again. One case where immiunity must NOT be extended to the ringleaders and operatives who have perpetrated this massive theft. They have the guy illegally selling what HE made. Be done with… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt

FOLLOW CLOSELY: The treble damages burden of proof will typically look like the following:

  • The plaintiff suffered damages caused by the defendant
  • Demonstrate that the plaintiff’s conduct was intentional, deliberate, malicious or willful
  • The law expressly authorizes the judge to grant treble damages
  • The plaintiff must specifically demand treble damages in his or her lawsuit

Treble Damages (What Does It Mean And When It Is Awarded)lawyer.zone/treble-damages/

Tank

Order followers willing to commit un-constitutional atrocities for the $$$ under the guise of Justice who obviously don’t have enough discernment or moral compass themselves. Hypocrisy is deafening & shameful. But the enforcers have no shame. If you participate in a untransparent or MOU that is confidential & not accountable to the people or any other activity that is not transparent to We the People then who & what are you supporting tacitly or silently representing & working for ? Those who can make you beLIEve absurdities can also make you commit atrocities. BeLIEf is the death of intelligence. OMICRON… Read more »

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musicman44mag

Since kommiefornia makes illegal laws as well as other states it becomes wrong for you to do what your fathers and his fathers and almost everyone else has done for years until Senator Feinstein, Boxer and others messed it up. San Diego ghost gun task force needs to prove that he was selling it for the owner of the company and the owner knew what the employee was doing to make these charges stick. If the employee bought the parts rather than getting them for free it stands to reason the owner didn’t know about it. Holding the owner of… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner

The punishment starts with the process.

StLPro2A

Do business behind enemy lines, expect capture to be a possibility.

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JSNMGC

Translation of your comment: “Damn those members of the resistance – they deserve everything they get from the Allgemeine Schutzstaffel and the Gestapo.”

How many of you are there?

USMC0351Grunt

Orwellian at best.

CourageousLion

The whole mess against AGK is being run by TOTALITARIAN psychopathic CONTROL FREAKS that don’t understand four words..SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. We are heading into a civil war. No doubt about it.

hippybiker

I know of only one Firearms business that stands up to the tyranny of the gun grabbing politicians in Commiefornia! That would be Ronnie Barrett! He refuses to sell, service or provide parts for his products to any agency in said State!

Wild Bill

Wow, good leadership by example! MC, brother!

musicman44mag

and others should follow.

USMC0351Grunt

As those of US!

DonP

“He refuses to sell, service or provide parts for his products to any agency in said State!”

…or return said products!
He had firearms belonging to law enforcement departments when the law was passed making them illegal in Commiefornia. He refused to ship the firearms back to those departments since, due to the new law, they were now illegal in Commiefornia!

TacSKS

“There is no evidence that the company owner acquired the magazines outside freedom week.”

I really like that line. Thanks for the reminder that the burden of proof is on the state, not the individual.

Patriot Solutions

The state already proved the Constitution doesn’t exist there decades ago.

CourageousLion

Actually the psychopathic control freaks that RUN the state have proven that. The “state” is a fiction. It is ALWAYS little tyrants running around screwing people over.

JSNMGC

Yes, and they typically come to power by promising the majority of people they will take from the minority and give it to the majority (a key component of socialism/communism). They then pass more and more laws and pay people to enforce those laws – particularly against those they don’t like (and not enforce laws against people they do like).

It happens in all states to one extent or another and changes over time. During all those times, there are some people in all those states who do not support totalitarianism.

musicman44mag

“During all those times, there are some people in all those states who do not support totalitarianism.”

Yes and they are in the suburbs, agricultural lands, desert and mountains while the people that rule the state live in the city.

OreGONE!

JSNMGC

You do welcome those anti-totalitarian people who live in the cities to be part of the group who is against totalitarianism though, right? I mean, you wouldn’t exclude them just because of the location of where they live, would you?

Some people piss on all the people in Oregon and claim they deseve what they get for voting for Democrats, even though there are obviously many good, anti-totalitarian people who live in Oregon who don’t vote for Democrats and other totalitarians.

musicman44mag

You do welcome those anti-totalitarian people who live in the cities to be part of the group who is against totalitarianism though, right? I mean, you wouldn’t exclude them just because of the location of where they live, would you? I am surprised that you would ask that. I do welcome and support anyone that is pro second amendment even if they are a democrat!!!! I may not agree with how they think the USA should be ran or abortion and other facets of being a moron, but I will support the Pro 2nd amendment part of them in a… Read more »

JSNMGC

I thought so – just checking based on the wording of your comment.

Thanks.

CourageousLion

And at that point they will have proven they have no common sense!

CourageousLion

One of the best booklets on the subject…”The Law” by Frederic Bastiat
http://bornagainclassics.com/Books/TheLaw.html

JSNMGC

I have not read that book, but I’ll order it and read it over the holidays. Thanks.

Russn8r

Revolutionary Summer was good. Check out First Salute by Barbara Tuchman. Makes it pretty clear the Revolution would’ve failed without The United Provinces running guns to America until Britain took them out a month before France came in.

JSNMGC

I read that one a long time ago, but I should read it again.

I assume you have read “The Gulag Archipelago” – another one I should re-read. It was painful to read how much they regretted not shooting/beating armed government employees while they had the chance.

Russn8r

Read it. Yep. Maybe I’ll read it again after finishing up Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim, if I don’t feel depressed enough after that. Great book btw

JSNMGC

I’ll add Sword and Scimitar to the order with The Law.

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USMC0351Grunt

You mean by the blatant Racketeering, money laundering, Protection “Services” and violations of the RICO Act?

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Wild Bill

Yes, it is the people that populate the many institutions in a complex society that screw people over. MC

CourageousLion

And it could be sooooo much less complicated.

Wild Bill

Yes, yes it could be much simpler. It was and could be again. We just need to get back to the Constitution!

Rowboat

I categorize the whole of the west coast as now hostile enemy territory, along with a majority of the New England states.
You take your chances when you visit or conduct business in a foreign country.

JSNMGC

More blaming the victims.

Hey, the people living in Germany in the 1930s took their chances. Don’t blame the Allgemeine Schutzstaffel and the Gestapo, they were just following orders. Don’t make generalizations about them, no one knows what percentage of them were bad. If you make comments about what they did, you are a SS and Gestapo hater (and probably just mad about getting a ticket).

3l120

Just ask George Soros.

JSNMGC

Yes, Soros was a sympathizer of the Allgemeine Schutzstaffel and the Gestapo.

Tionico

The people executed in result of their trials at Nürengurg were “chust followink oadahs”, too. EACHINDIVIDUAL is resposnible for their actions. That includes every member of that Ghost Gun Task Force in SD County that particpted in that raid, or its investigation. along with the City Dwellers who never get off their duffs to VOTE OUT the criminals who run their local show. HOW did that corrupt LA COunty DA get voted in? Thousands of city dwellers slept through the election, that’s how. Now he’s a target for impeachment, which would go down just perfectly on this commie dirtbag. Same… Read more »

JSNMGC

“The people executed in result of their trials at Nürengurg were ‘chust followink oadahs’, too. EACHINDIVIDUAL is resposnible for their actions. That includes every member of that Ghost Gun Task Force in SD County that particpted in that raid, or its investigation.” Precisely my point. How many people who made excuses for the Allgemeine Schutzstaffel and Gestapo while they were arresting people who were not in their tribe later regretted not objecting to the obviously unconscionable behavior? “First they came for the pro 2nd Amendment people in CA, OR, and WA, and I did not speak out for them because… Read more »

Patriot Solutions

Yeah, no kidding just look what happened with the whole DC concept.

Wild Bill

Yes, the legislators that made these libtard laws were elected by the libtard majority (and cheating). That majority of socialist individuals is walking around in street clothes and are indistinguishable from the rest of the right thinking population. That majority are the enemy, and they want things that way.

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JSNMGC

The majority of the people born between the mid 1800s and early 1900s across America voted for the people who created the NFA of 1934. Does some pro 2nd Amendment person living in Texas deserve what he gets from the BATFE who are just following orders?

Regarding California today, are the people walking around in blue uniforms who actually arrest people for following the Constitution not to be criticized?

Many states have turned from being relatively pro 2nd Amendment to more anti 2nd Amendment. When that happens to more states, will you back the blue, no matter what they do?

Wild Bill

A seemingly plausible statement. Can you prove that? What research did you do or is that just an assumption? Absent proof the remainder of your argument, really, can not get off the ground.

JSNMGC

Proof that the majority of voters voted for the people who created the NFA of 1934?

22.8 milion people voted for Roosevelt
15.8 million people voted for Hoover

https://www.270towin.com/1932_Election/

Roosevelt signed the NFA of 1934 into law.

Wild Bill

Roosevelt did not instate the NFA all by himself.

JSNMGC

He signed it into law.

The people who created the legislation were also elected by a majority of voters in their states.

swmft

they dont like the truth so they vote it down so sad ,guess wb is “woke”

JSNMGC

You, sir, are one of the handful of former LEOs on this site who speak out against those LEOs who enforce never-ending gun control and otherwise abuse people’s civil rights. America would be a better place with more people like you. God bless you and Merry Christmas.

JSNMGC

BTW, Roosevelt got 88% of the votes in Texas.

A Texan created the BATFE.

A Texan was the boss of the Texan who created the BATFE and allowed him to do it.

I don’t hold Texas, or Texans, responsible for the creation of either the NFA of 1934 or the BATFE.

There are well over a million true blue patriots living in California. They are being oppressed by law enforcement.

Wild Bill

If you don’t hold Texans responsible, then why did you bring it up? None of those assertions help your argument blaming cops.
There is plenty of blame to go around socialist marxist voters, community organizers, legislators, judges, professors, teachers, federal, state, and local bureaucrats, nearly the entire media industry, bankers and financiers, and even business persons.
To focus on just cops is just short sighted and makes it look like you hate them as a group for personal reasons.
What is the word that I am looking for? Oh yeah … specious.

JSNMGC

You and others are making generalized comments about California. Unquestionably, a super-majority of California voters for some time now have voted for totalitarian policies. A super-majority of Texans voted for Roosevelt who signed the NFA of 1934 into law (he also championed numerous socialist policies aimed at creating a bigger government and more wealth redistribution). A lot of the people being oppressed by law enforcement in California have never voted for a Democrat – just like a lot of people living in Texas today do not support the NFA of 1934. You and others, rightfully, make disparaging comments about the… Read more »

CourageousLion

^^^^^TRUTH^^^^^^ and yet I see down votes by PROLES…AGAIN…That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”

JSNMGC

Many will keep taking the blue pill – it’s easier for them right up until it isn’t.

Wild Bill

I don’t think that it is the system or all cops that are our enemies. I think that greedy, self serving, power hungry people infiltrate every aspect of our system. They seek power where ever they can grasp it.
That is a dismal thought, at this festive time of year, implying an almost insurmountable task, that is why it is tempting to focus all blame on just one group.
Oh, and MC, brother.

Russn8r

“I don’t think all cops are our enemies.” (as if JSNMGC does).

Lay off the strawmen, WB, or shall I say…TEX…

Wild Bill

Yes, I can see that you have studied history. I can also see that you have not studied forensics. You mix a few specious assertions in with a lot of assertions that I can agree with, but the whole of your argument is based upon the first assertion that still just a supposition.
You can not further the whole until that first assertion is fixed or at least shored up a bit. Many have come to your aid, and valiantly, but having the same defects.
Blaming everything on the cops is just a quick fix. There are no quick fixes.

JSNMGC

You are reading what you want to read and ignoring the rest. First and foremost, I blame the people who vote for the redistribution of wealth. It is the gateway to socialism. The reason for socialism is communism. The laws that come with socialism are only effective if there are people to enforce them. When the red state rural sheriff deputy on a “task force” kicks down the dentist’s door, shoots his golden retriever, points his gun and screams obscenities at the dentist, his wife, and small children and then handcuffs them and tears their house apart looking for something… Read more »

Wild Bill

As to your first sentence: No.
Second sentence: You have been blaming the only cops, and, so clearly that others have picked up the chant.
Regarding your last paragraph, you return to blaming a specific LEO, in condemnation of the whole. This is not the structure of a convincing argument.

JSNMGC

I have been criticizing cops for enforcing unconstitutional laws. It takes one group of people to create the law and another group to enforce the law.   A large percentage of the people here focus on the politicians and governors/presidents. You don’t take offense to that or to people criticizing federal enforcers.   A smaller group points out that if no one enforced the laws, the problem would be largely mitigated. Most of those people were here before I joined and were posting similar comments at the time I joined. They are well-informed all on their own, as are millions… Read more »

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Will

@WB,the kid is a moron. In the whole scheme of things it make no difference what he thinks about anything. He will usually alternate between trashing the police and military,both being very important and successful parts of my life. What has this chump ever done except whine about downvotes? Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX,” et al.) “@WB,the kid is a moron. In the whole scheme of things it make no difference what he thinks about anything. He will usually alternate between trashing the police and military,both being very important and successful parts of my life. What has this chump ever done except whine about downvotes? Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!” Response to Will (“TEX,” et al.): You indicated how you lament not still being in LE so you could abuse the power entrusted to you to punish a person with whom you disagree about politics. I support all good LEOs. I… Read more »

Will

Nobody gives a hoot in hell what you support or don’t support.

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 12/8/21

“Nobody gives a hoot in hell what you support or don’t support.”

Response to Will (“TEX”):

Do you find it easier to argue when you a assign a position to a person and then argue against that postion that you created?

Then, when the person reiterates their actual position, you say you don’t care and claim everyone else holds your opinion?

Russn8r

Hey, WillTEX, why did you delete this post? Same reason you hid your assets?

“LMFAO ! Send that African boy to prison and forget about him!”
-TEX/Will/FordWILL/WB
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/open-letter-nj-legislature-stoarge-gun-registration-bills/#comment-2908483

swmft

if police refuse to enforce laws that violate constitution , or arrest members of government in violation of title 18 laws( teeth behind billl of rights) more people would trust them. but as for what i saw from working dea I would not trust any I met and that was several thousand, if you have met good honest police please introduce them . and no dea was not clean nor fbi nor secret service . protecting a pedophile in office is despicable.and they did!

Wild Bill

Ok, let me know when you arrive in Yantis. There is only one cafe. Just ask for Wild Bill or that really tall red headed guy, around lunch time. I’ll introduce you to the county sheriff. MC, brother.

CourageousLion

GO FIND ONE that will let you loose if they find you with an unregistered “machine gun”. FIND ONE. WTFU! The ENFORCERS are the problem. Always have been and always will be.

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CourageousLion

Adolf Hitler didn’t kill people. HIS ENFORCERS DID. Adolf Hitler didn’t cage people. HIS ENFORCERS DID. The colonists were asked to drop their weapons at Concord Green by KING GEORGE’S ENFORCERS. WTF is WRONG with you people? It’s so OBVIOUS and yet you just go along and lick boots. I had a JOB as an ENFORCER and couldn’t stay because of all the contradictions and bull crap that went on.

Roland T. Gunner

me too.

Wild Bill

Did it ever occur to you that all the contradictions and bull crap are the result of years of work by defense attorneys, prosecutors, judges, mayors, city counsels, chiefs of police, legislators, lobbyists, and people with hidden financial interests.

Will

WB,very well put. I would only add “hidden agendas” too.

Wild Bill

Yes, but not the only problem. The cops that do wrong are only the tip of the iceberg.
Oh, and I never found one that would let me off of a traffic ticket. MC, brother.

JSNMGC

Good luck finding one who will let you off for having an unregistered semiautomatic rifle when that day comes. It certainly wouldn’t be Don (who said he would enforce such a law), and who rarely receives many down votes here.

Don’t forget the person who wrote this:

“Start charging the turds who violate firearms laws and keep them jailed.”

Wild Bill

This is Texas. My wife’s hair dresser has an unregistered semiautomatic rifle.
If you don’t name them I can not possible know whom you are writing about.

JSNMGC

You could possibly know, but maybe you don’t. It’s not beyond a possibility that you read that comment when Will (“TEX”) wrote it or when I quoted it numerous times.

McLennan county is in Texas as well. The Chief Deputy, Captain of the McLennan sheriff office called in the BATFE for suspected NFA violations. That didn’t pan out.

Edited to add: I said “when the day comes” – meaning when there is a law requiring people in Texas to regiser their semiautomatic rifles.

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Russn8r

What is the word I’m looking for to describe much of what you write? Oh yeah…projection. That’s what isn’t described by other forms of hypocrisy, snark, gopher games & fantasy ranching.

Country Boy

FWIW…I have seen with my own eyes, and had it on videotape (which was promptly confiscated) of Sheriff Officer doing something totally illegal and corrupt. He pulled a ounce of cocaine from his pocket , looked around and sqauted own and slid it across the floor so it’d stop against the wall right beside a maleand female couple, then jumped up and ran across the room , picked it up and charged both the man and woman with the cocaine. Wake up, there are bad LEOS out there. I have seen it with my own eyes in real time.. I… Read more »

Wild Bill

Of course there are bad LEOs out there, bad people get into every endeavor known to a modern society. They are interlinked and support each other.
Limiting our reorg to just cops won’t get us very far.

CourageousLion

Really shows how many on here use critical thinking when I see down votes for someone who actually DOES critically think. He is RIGHT the problem is the ENFORCERS. PERIOD. They are willing to burn your church down on top of your children over a $200 “tax” on a right. They are willing to shoot your kid in the back and your wife in the head over a $200 tax. Your life is worth TWO FKING HUNDRED DOLLARS TO THESE SICK SACKS OF SHIT. And yet you down vote the TRUTH. IDIOTS!

CourageousLion

My statement is for those BUTT LICKERS on here that SUPPORT those who shit on the Constitution JSNMGC. FYI. Because they are brain dead little lemmings…or is it SHEEP?

JSNMGC

Whenever there are a lot of downvotes for someone posting about egregious abuse of people’s civil rights by LEOs and only the same few former LEOs speak out against those abuses, my estimate of how many LEOs are bad apples goes up.

Tionico

I will back WHOMEVER backs the US and their State Constitutions. Don’t care WHAT colour their britches are.

JSNMGC

Same here.

CourageousLion

THE MAIN PROBLEM…IS THE ENFORCERS that KNOWINGLY violate their oath to support and defend the Constitution. WITHOUT THE ENFORCERS the policy making elite are castrated and are pretty much powerless.

Wild Bill

Absent the marxist socialist voters, business persons, media, legislators, judges. and various bureaucrats there would not be strong arms enforcing unconstitutional laws.
There are no quick fixes. We need to return to the Constitution.

JSNMGC

The majority of Americans want other people’s stuff, so they vote for people who promise to give them other people’s stuff (in many different ways).

The people who promise to redistribute stuff also want never-ending gun control.

It doesn’t matter if it’s the BATFE or a rural sheriff deputy on a task force – those who enforce never-ending gun control should not be supported.

Wild Bill

How will you sift out those who enforce never-ending gun control from the others, so that you can not support them?

JSNMGC

When a cop does something bad, I don’t support him/her.

Cops/former cops need to speak out against their own. Again, there are only a few who do it on this site.

JSNMGC

You meant to write some percentage of business persons,” right?

The way you wrote it makes you sound like a hate-filled person who hates himself and was personally wronged by a business person.

See how that goes?

You also forgot to include lawyers who are not legislators and judges.

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Wild Bill

I can not find the sentence, to which you are referring. Perhaps I have written that sentence poorly.

JSNMGC

It was only a few posts above:

“Absent the marxist socialist voters, business persons, media, legislators, judges. and various bureaucrats there would not be strong arms enforcing unconstitutional laws.” ~ Wild Bill

musicman44mag

Your right but some of them are proud Subaru and Prius owners and put stickers on their car that let you know who they really are while they flip you off for having a Trump sticker.

Wild Bill

They will be easy to find … when the time comes.

Roland T. Gunner

And we reply back to them with a big shit eating grin.

CourageousLion

That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”

Stag

This is just one of the many quotes that makes me love those movies.

Doug G.

Just as the left coast and N.E. big cities can sway a national election, so happens inside Kommiefornia. The coastal big cities, LA, SF and Sacramento control the electorate and have created the democratic failure that is the Golden State. If not for the beaches and weather (and gold, back in the day), CA would be an annex of Mexico. And we all can see how well that country is being run, where every citizen wants to escape North! Same thing with CA, those who can afford to escape, do, and are populating Red states with their idiotic communist ideas… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner

Right there with you brother.

Matt in Oklahoma

Kalifornia
Not much else to say

Montana454Casull

Any firearm business that resides in the communist state of California needs to move thier businesses to a free state and never look back .

JSNMGC

Any law enforcement officer who works in the state of California should refuse to be the tool of tyrants.

JSNMGC

Any friend of law enforcement officers in the state of California should shun those officers if they engage in unconstitutional activities.

PAF145

I am sure if all involved parties were illegal aliens ,they would have been left alone

Hazcat

There is no reason for any gun related business to do business in CA. If you do and this type of problem happens to you, too bad. You shouldn’t be there. The ‘2A Industry’ would stop doing business in CA if they actually cared about the 2A, but they don’t stop because it’s all about the bottom line and 2A be damned. Instead they speak platitudes about how it “has to be changed from the inside”. Well you’ve been trying that for years, how’s it working for you? Barrett is the only company of which I am aware that has… Read more »

Wild Bill

Boy, that is the truth. Cali can not be trusted. Why is there a ghost gun task force, when all those guys should be on the Smash and Grab Task Force or Out On No Bail Task Force?

JSNMGC

“Cali?” – that’s a broad brush generalization about a lot of people.

This is nothing new.

A certain percentage of California law enforcement will follow almost any order.

They followed orders to retreat to wealthy neighborhoods that were not in danger during the Rodney King riots and left shop owners in the middle of the riot to fend for themselves.

After the dust settled, they went back and persecuted those shop owners for brandishing and using their firearms.

They also enforced new “emergency gun laws” during the crisis.

2gats

In crapistan many (or most) police are also the bad guys

JSNMGC

I’ve been criticized for saying that very thing, so to appease those people I now make sure I write “a certain percentage” of California enforcers are bad (just like a certain percentage of Allgemeine Schutzstaffel and Gestapo were bad).

2gats

If they were in a “smash and grab task force” they would have to deal w scawy criminals who may be meanies……….much easier to harass good guys bending over to comply.

cops taking guns from law abiding citizens ARE THE BAD GUYS!!!!

Wild Bill

I concur. MC, brother

J Gibbons

I agree that these companies need to fold up shop in CA and move. Not only is CA hostile to 2A business, CA is hostile to business in general.

JSNMGC

More blaming the victim and no mention of the people who make tyranny possible.

2gats

The reason for having a gun store in crapistan is not to sell guns it’s to mine the state for collectible guns that can not be transferred in state, pay nothing for them because sellers have no options and sell them out of state on gunbroker for real profit.

The difference between a gun store in crapistan compared to a free state when you walk in the door is “what do you want?” vs “hi, how ya doing? Can I help you?”

Wild Bill

If true, there are a lot of lessons I this new story. Lesson 1: “… to a man he met online…”