PROSPECT, PA -(Ammoland.com)- This morning, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) served JSD Supply with a cease & desist order.
The order originated from the ATF’s Philadelphia field office. It stated that JSD Supply could not sell both unfinished frames and firearms parts to the same person no matter if they were purchased at different times. If JSD Supply sold a frame to someone, then the customer comes back to the site and buys a gun part; then, according to the ATF, the company sold the customer a complete firearm without a federal firearms license (FFL) in violation of the Gun Control Act (GCA).
The ATF claims this action is independent of the new rule change that was unveiled last month during a White House Rose Garden ceremony and is due to go into effect this August. The order claimed it has always been Illegal under the GCA to sell parts and frames to the same person even if the transactions were separate. The ATF calls this “structuring.” Many sites sell both parts and frames, including major players in the firearms industry such as Brownells and Midway.
As of Thursday morning, JSD Supply’s website was taken offline until the company received legal advice on how to move forward. JSD Supply has been at the center of attention since NBC News released a hit piece on the company in conjunction with Pennsylvania Attorney General and governor candidate Josh Shapiro.
NBC reporter Vaughn Hillyard purchased two kits from a gun show outside of Philadelphia in the piece. After he bought two unfinished kits from the JSD Supply booth, he ambushed JSD Supply owner Jordan Vinroe in the parking lot with an interview. The interview was selectively edited to smear Vinroe.
Hillyard then took the two kits to the PA AG’s Office, where employees finished the kits for him. Some advocates and gun rights organizations wonder if any law was broken with the transfer of the two kits and the AG’s office finishing the frames for NBC News. If the transfer of parts and a frame make the items a firearm, then it appears Hillyard broke the law as a New York State resident buying a firearm in Pennsylvania.
JSD Supply products have opinion letters from the ATF stating that the items in question are not firearms. This contradiction of what the cease and desist order says and what the determination letters say is perplexing.
The regulations surrounding 80% kits are confusing. Instead of the ATF clarifying its stance in the new pistol frame rule, it muddies the water by making contradictory statements in the documents. It is unclear if ATF’s special agent will visit other companies.
AmmoLand News tried to reach Special Agent in Charge of The Philadelphia Field Office, Matthew Varisco, for comment, but our calls were not returned.
Update ATF Response:
“This is an ongoing issue that the ATF can not comment on.” – Rob Cuinotta, Special Agent Philadelphia Public Affairs Office
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The current administration is full of threats and scare tactics, yet they don’t use the laws that are on the books to prosecute criminals.
Going after a legitimate business and blaming them for crimes they didn’t commit is what we are seeing.
this is going to come to a head and the atf will be gone
I sure hope that you are right. BATFE is a huge waste of money; unconstitutional; and an instrument to get the people used to loss of Rights.
it could be the agency that sparks the flash , or hopefully next congress will eliminate the agency ,taxing authority has already been moved
A long time ago I read an interesting book Unintended Consequences by John Ross.
An excellent book! I have it on my shelf. The history, alone, that it recalls is worth the price. I wonder why there has not been a second printing.
This book? That is sitting on my shelf? Read by everyone in my family and lots of friends!
How many millions/billions of tax dollars could be saved by eliminating the ATF? Perhaps in 2024 this just might happen?
Please understand…”tax dollars” are stolen from us to make us THINK they need them. THEY DON’T!
Yes, the amount of money that I paid in federal income tax, last year, was enough to comfortably support more that one family of illegal aliens.
Do you really want to get a reality check, think about the hospital charges, they have to make up for all of the illegals getting free HA, HA, HA, HA, medical treatments, guess who foots those bills, G Q PUBLIC, we don’t get a break just shut up and pay the bill!!! But no one in the higher ups will tell you that is why costs are so high, it would all come to light how much of a bunch of sheep we have become!!!!!
Brother, I can not argue with that!
The amount of money that was STOLEN from you last year, PLUS the purchasing power they STEAL from you with INFLATION. “…Keynes argues that inflation is a ‘method of taxation’ which the government uses to ‘secure the command over real resources, resources just as real as those obtained by [ordinary] taxation’. ‘What is raised by printing notes, ‘ he writes, is just as much taken from the public as is a beer duty or an income tax.’ ” – 1980 Annual Report, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, pg 10 “Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to… Read more »
OK.
MV=PY
Elect ME president nd I will have pre-written cdcuments in my pocket as I swear my oath to uphod, defend, and ENFORCE the Constitution and ALL the laws enacted PERSUANT thereto. Once I have been sworn in and declared the President of the US, I will remove that document and, with everyone watching, sign it as an executive order, That order will immediatley disband BATF in its entirety, terminate ALL emloyees, agents, assigns, affiliaates, and turn off the money spigot to everyone formelry involved wiht that gency. The next document out of my pocket will be a sedcond EO commanding… Read more »
Naaaa…it says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. That means there are no prohibited people except as it was before 1968, when they are in a JAIL.
I respectfully suggest you retain these proposals to give them for comment, to the republicans writing the platform for the party candidate for president in 2024. Let’s see if they’ll put up or shut up!
A” Rouge ATF!” The Ass Hat Biden’s version of the Gestapo!
They are not rogue.
Employees at the BATFE follow orders.
They follow orders today.
They would have followed orders in late 2019 and early 2020.
They followed orders in 2018 to ban bump stocks.
If left to operate without orders, they will continue infringing. If they are given orders to stop infringing, they will follow orders.
the fact they follow orders that violate the law makes them criminals and to the last one should be tried under title 18 242
I put it like this: No “law” should exist for a crime unless there is a victim involved. If you are willing to cage or kill me for keeping the fruits of my labor, YOU are the criminal, not me. If you are willing to cage or kill me enforcing a law telling me that I cannot smoke, eat or drink what I want, YOU are the criminal not me. If you are willing to cage me or kill me while enforcing a law that says that I can’t own a certain type of gun or because I decide to put a… Read more »
It’s reprehensible when any armed government employee enforces an unconscionable law (or “provides support” for those who do). It doesn’t matter what they have printed on their clothes: BATFE, Trooper, Sheriff, Police, or U.S. Army.
I made a mistake. How do I delete this post. That needs to be fixed.
“rouge” is french for the colour RED. Women often spread a compound called “rouge” on their faces for some reason or other.
Are BATF really “rouge”? Yes, in the sense that “reds” are “commies” and these clowns are acting like commies.
time to dismantle the entire rogue agency and put all their guys out on the soup lines.
was thinking Kansas , but better a new prison along Arizona/ Mexico border there with eric holder could see first hand results of their work
FU** atf and their extended families.
PUBLISH THEIR HOME ADDRESSES!!!
See you in court If I bought a water pump for my car at Oreillys and next day a battery did I buy a car ???? Same story was run a few weeks ago, Thank you The ATF has no leash that is the problem their are working under a anti gun administration. Democrats with the political view good for us but not for you do as I say not as I do fail on every level daily. JDS should sue the ATF for harassment of a small business claiming that their rights have been infringed upon needlessly . Adding… Read more »
“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to once shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, It is getting close to the point where evils will no… Read more »
So what ate you gonna do about it? Whats your first move?
My first move was taken years ago. I’m working on my 15th move right now. And you? Surely you don’t expect me to LIST my moves do you?
The ATF special agent in charge has a duty to charge the Penn AG’s office employees, and anyone in charge of them, that had knowledge of the transfer of the completed handguns, to the resident of another state. That is considered trafficking in firearms (handguns) across state lines, a federal felony level crime. The law doesn’t discriminate between 2 or 2,000 handguns.
Hmm, the 2nd amendment does not state anything about state lines…All gun “laws” are null and void…
I agree. It is distraction to argue unconstitutional laws and gives them standing in court to further their incrementalism
HLB.
but the criminals in uniforms distinguish how they apply “laws”
All the letters sent demanding an investigation into the PA AG….and this so far is the result…typical govt bullshit.
It is the responsibility of the people to control their government.
HLB
Time to diversify and divide and create several companies all selling different components and send the ATF a new buisness plan announcement for each buisness . If all the 80 % manufacturers create several different businesses for the clowns at the ATF to investigate it should keep them busy for a long time .
That is clever. A good Plan Bravo.
C’mon, supporting infringement?? I know you better than that.
Dump the ‘AFT!’ 😉
you do know we will have to make a stand against them sooner than most people think, it will likely be before the democrats loose congress, and will require people arresting atf agents ,or killing them the government has gotten out of hand and most people in it believe they are our bosses they cant grasp public servant means indentured servant
Self defense against a criminal violating his oath of office is self defense. If I was on the jury I’d hang it or convince the rest of the jurors you were within your rights. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED really isn’t that hard to understand unless your intention is to IGNORE IT. Which obviously, they do.
Let me start with if I was able to do this I would. Now, I’d go in the name of law abiding citizen, ask for everyone that is with me to meet me at a certain place on the west side of B’ham, AL. Anyone coming from west lower part of the USA to me in 5 days at the named place. All people that wanted to join us to be at a named place close to DC. All that gathered or meet at this place would go the White House to make citizens arrests of all tyranny in the… Read more »
each one selling one part ,then only post office is a criminal, delivering all the parts to one address
LOL!
DITTO!
How can the BATFE enforce a regulation that is not yet a regulation and won’t be assuming it halted before it goes into effect in August? Also the reporter who gave two “kits” to members of the PA Attorney General’s staff to complete for him violated the current regulation, It states that you may complete a “kit” only for your own use and NO ONE else can do it for you!
So they form 2 businesses with websites that point to each other but do not allow cross pollination of orders/payments, etc. 1 business that only sells frames and one that sells everything else….eff the gubmint….JSD Frames and JSD Supply…. .com
Or sell everything except one small part necessary for a functional firearm like a firing pin or a spring.
i
m glad the atf wasnt around in 1700`s. they need to go bye-bye .ATF is in violation of the Commerce code plain and simple. It would like the FDA telling a drug store they can’t fill prescriptions because that customer already bought a bottle of aspirin.
It is time to serve our current government cease & desist orders.
need to start arresting atf people
i imagine a sheriff could if he ain`t too sceered.
At 2000 fps.
DUH!!!!
“…transfer of the two kits and the AG’s office finishing the frames for NBC News.” And the AG office manufactured a firearm sans appropriate licensing and Robinson-Pittman tax payment. The gov critters will walk free and clear. Thus, the statement by Tommy Jefferson, “What is legal for the government, but not the citizenry is tyranny.” HANG THEM!!!!
Plain and simple government intimidation. There are 100’s of sites just like JSD, But one thing is unique.. They were vocal about the first launched lawsuit against this over reach of power. Asking others to help finance the fight again an unconstitutional overreach. This case has been decided many time in the Supreme court, recently removed mask mandates on planes, or forcing vax based on OSHA. Agencies can not change the definition or intent of legislation. PA secretary was cited PA unconstitutional activity of issuing mail in ballots. The damage is done, the laws were broken, yet like Harry Reid… Read more »
What “law” goes into effect? Don’t you mean DECREE? ATF can’t make laws. It is part of the “executive” branch as is.
Great creds:
“SAC Varisco holds the following academic degrees; a Master of Science in Criminal Justice from Iona College, New York, a Master of Science in Strategic Studies from the U.S. Army War College, Pennsylvania, and a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from Montclair State University, New Jersey.”
https://www.atf.gov/philadelphia-field-division/meet-special-agent-charge
Sounds like one of WB’s buddies.
I’d like to see the syllabus:
APPROPRIATE for these USEFUL IDIOTS who are Anti-Rights!
books were written by markx,and Stalin
Good afternoon DUMMY!! The other groups you claim are doing much more than the NRA didn’t stop this from happening?
I call them as I see them. Go back and look at the earlier posts a few days back of what he said about me. He started the name calling. And he sent me a link several times to a website about Michaelangelo being GAY! I took offense to those CHEAP ANTICS!! Why didn’t you send him a reply about his name calling aimed at me?? I didn’t start it but I’m sure as hell going to see it through. So don’t give me that CRAP!! What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander.
I call them as I see them. Go back and look at the earlier posts a few days back of what he said about me. He started the name calling. And he sent me a link several times to a website about Michaelangelo being GAY! I took offense to those CHEAP ANTICS!! Why didn’t you send him a reply about his name calling aimed at me?? I didn’t start it but I’m sure as helck going to see it through. So don’t give me that CRAP!! What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander
I call them as I see them. Go back and look at the earlier posts a few days back of what he said about me. He started the name calling. And he sent me a link several times to a website about Michaelangelo going BOTH WAYS if you are following me. I took offense to those CHEAP ANTICS!! Why didn’t you send him a reply about his name calling aimed at me?? I didn’t start it but I’m sure as hell going to see it through. So don’t give me that CRAP!! What’s good for the Goose is good for… Read more »
I call them as I see them. Go back and look at the earlier posts a few days back of what he said about me. He started the name calling. And he sent me a link several times to a website about Michaelangelo being a Homo!!
Michelangelo was bi. LOL!
Good for him. But I am as STRAIGHT as you can be!!
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I took offense to those CHEAP ANTICS!! Why didn’t you send him a reply about his name calling aimed at me?? I didn’t start it but I’m sure as heck going to see it through. So don’t give me that CRAP!! What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander.
I took offense to those CHEAP ANTICS!! Why didn’t you send him a reply about his name calling aimed at me??
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eat it!!
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I didn’t start it but I’m sure going to see it through. So don’t give me that CRAP!! What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander.
didn’t start it but I’m sure as hell going to see it through. So don’t give me that crap. What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander.
I didn’t start it but am going to see it through. So don’t try to hammer me. He should able to take it if he can dish it out.
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Go back and look at his posts today. Do you see anybody agreeing with him?
Poor little boy…
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I have met a multitude of high degree recipients who have been taught(indoctrinated) into WHAT TO DO(cannot use ‘think’ here) — instead of — HOW TO THINK!
These people ARE LACKING —— COMMON SENSE!!!
What sense is common to all?
once was called horse sense , none of these idiots have sense to get out of the rain
“Education” these days is synonymous with INDOCTRINATION.
Science? Democrats haven’t been able to figure which bathroom to use! So much for their science.
Democrats?
The group to be concerned about is authoritarians. It includes Democrats and it also includes many Republican politicians and southern, God-fearin’, Republican, sheriff deputies who cooperate with the BATFE under the PSN program to enforce never-ending gun control.
if they feared god they would not attack others , they beg Jesus to intercede on their behalf for all the wrongs they have committed
not to mention whether MALES are able to conceive and bear chidlren……. (by male I mean an individual with one X and one Y chromosome. Words have meanings and meanings have consequences. )