Disinformation War Targets Constitutional Carry

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- If Florida can pass Constitutional Carry over half the states in this Country would require no permit to carry a concealed gun. This is a great win for freedom, and it scares the hell out of the anti-gunners.

Mainstream media has already started a campaign of disinformation concerning constitutional carry.



The New York Post thinks that if you let law-abiding Americans carry a tool to defend themselves, it will cause a surge in crime.

The Economist rolled the old trope of comparing carrying a gun to driving a car. They ask why every state requires a license to drive a car but not for owning a firearm.

The media likes to forget that the right to bear arms is enshrined in the Constitution.

These anti-liberty organizations are not just worried about a majority of Constitutional Carry states.

Upcoming Supreme Court decisions could rule that the “good cause requirements” in concealed carry laws violate the Second Amendment. That scares the hell out of the anti-gun zealots.

AmmoLand’s own Dave Workman looked into Constitutional Carry in states where it had passed. Workman found that multiple studies showed no increase in crime.

So, why are the anti-gunners pushing this false narrative?

The answer is simple. They are losing the battle.

25 states let Americans carry guns without any type of permit. If Constitutional Carry can pass in Florida, it could be the tipping point in making permitless carry the standard.

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Vinnie

“They ask why every state requires a license to drive a car but not for owning a firearm.”

I happen to agree with this question. Why do I need government permission to operate my vehicle that I was taxed on when I bought, and taxed to operate it, on roads I am also taxed on to maintain. This is a question that really should be asked.

Ope

The 2A and owning a firearm is a constitutional right,driving a car is a privilege from the state.

ALL GUN LAWS ARE INFRINGEMENTS

Another thing that drives them BAT CRAP MAD is guns save more than 3 million lives every year!

Coelacanth

Freedom scares the hell out of tyrants. It should!

Country Boy

Freedom to the People!

Wass

As a resident in the highly restricted state of NJ, I would like “constitutional carry” too. However, for me and the throngs of citizens in those highly restricted states, “shall issue” would be most satisfactory. In the politics of gun rights advocacy, striving for “constitutional carry”, while assuming that if enacted over a majority of US states, it would carry over to those restricted venues, is foolish. First, advocate for “shall issue”, then, if approved through SCOTUS (hopefully), talk about “constitutional carry”, or whatever you want to call it.

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USMC0351Grunt

Settling for “shall issue” just makes you guys a bunch of pussies. MEN, with BACKBONE stand for, fight for and DEMAND Constitutional Carry and settle for NO LESS! So, put on your big boy pants (Or panties if that is the case), form a coalition and STEP UP! Dethrone the tyrants that are denying YOU and your citizens their rights, and INSTALLL Constitutional Carry. The tyrants are only in power because you guys cower and ALLOW IT!

Finnky

I agree that success is more likely for you if you fight for shall issue. Then antis will lose what footing they have when NJ looks like other states with crime rates falling. Thereafter you can pursue constitutional carry. Just because your state is backwards, does not mean the rest of us should hold back. In fact, lack of crime in constitutional states should provide you with some of your best ammo to wage the war for your own rights. For now beat them over the head with crime rates stats like relative conviction rates of licensed carriers versus police.… Read more »

swmft

I think a good part of the ccw people having less mistakes is they do not have the protection police have so they are careful in their actions

pureamericana

‘Disinformation ” ; statements from the unAmerican (D) left and Federal Govt. Depts. should be construed as what they are,…..LIES .

john

We must never forget that the elected in Washington and the wrong president in power together can alter the constitution “example prohibition”. Which resulted in gangland crime politicians prospered along with the rich elites in upscale speakeasy. The problem today is that they have stacked the lower courts to expeditie changes that are temporary while some become stalled on the way to the supreme court. In that short term we all pay for the democrats tracheary. Our freedom to own firearms is always a topic for Democrats We can never forget that other countries and their people have suffered the… Read more »

swmft

and courts packed with leftists slow the progress and increase cost of keeping our rights

swmft

3 conservative judges on 9th find for rights, whole court says rights are not rights but granted privileges, who made you King???????? here have some koolade

USMC0351Grunt

YOU and THE PEOPLE can unseat judges if they are violating law.

USMC0351Grunt

No, the PROBLEM TODAY is men have allowed themselves to be emasculated by the feminist regime, gave way to sports and booze or drugs and weakened their posture as citizens with backbone! APATHY will NEVER win your battles.

DDS

“The media likes to forget that the right to bear arms is enshrined in the Constitution.”

Its not that they forget. Its that they don’t believe it. Their view of the Consititution, the Bill of Rights, and the government established by them, is radically different from ours.

Its as if we were two different nations living within the same borders.

As if……

😉

john

Example of Government control under the democrats Crime courtesy of a democratic president and world war one Thomas Woodrow Wilson was an American politician and academic who served as the 28th president of the United States from 1913 to 1921. A member of the Democratic Party,  The 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution–which banned the manufacture, transportation and sale of intoxicating liquors–ushered in a period in American history known as Prohibition. Prohibition was ratified by the states on January 16, 1919 and officially went into effect on January 17, 1920, with the passage of the Volstead Act.  Prohibition was difficult to… Read more »

Stag

I really wish people would stop calling it constitutional carry. Constitutional carry doesn’t exist anywhere in the US or its territories. Some states have permitless carry but every state and the federal government still dictate who, what, when, where, and how you are “allowed” to carry. Leading people to believe that bearing arms with infringements is somehow constitutional is disinformation.

swmft

Vermont did have have real constitutional carry, went to many a town meeting where about half were armed, think the change started under dick snelling before him spoke on a bill in mont peculiar (yes intended poke) only question I got was cocked and locked or empty chamber (1911)

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HLB

Mississippi has half (open) Constitutional Carry.

HLB

Ope

What exactly does the mean ? Even in Biloxi ?

Ope

What exactly does that mean ? You carry open half the time and concealed the other half ?

HLB

It means that the Mississippi Constitution protects Open Carry but not Concealed Carry. To carry concealed, you are under the control of the legislative agenda. They may tell you when and how to carry concealed, or that you may not carry concealed, and that may change with each legislative session. There is a new rash of “Constitutional Carry” laws enacted by the legislature that “allow” you to carry without a license, but the Open Carry position of the Mississippi Constitution means that you can carry openly without the legislature’s permission, and that “shall not be called in question”. Thus, half… Read more »

swmft

have to have a permit for concealed carry ,but anyone who can have a gun can open carry , it is useful for hunting ,no bs for pistol on your hip

USMC0351Grunt

In Texas I can go to Austin and walk into my state capitol to visit representatives carrying concealed or open carry. I just walk through the ARMED entry.I consider THAT as protected by the Constitution, hence CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY.

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Stag

Are you not aware of all the restrictions Texas has on bearing arms?

Ope

Nope.

swmft

and that is how it should be

HLB

People will attempt to control your life through any means that they can. The government is one of their primary tools. “Constitutional Carry” is the buzzword of the day. Just ignore these distractions, strap on your weapon, and live your life.

HLB

swmft

what branch were you?

HLB

I worked Army Corps of Engineers, testing.

HLB

swmft

this is my weapon this is my gun basic stays with you
especially some of the jargon

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JSNMGC

“Just ignore these distractions, strap on your weapon, and live your life.”

First, I’d like to see LEOs state:

“Just ignore these distractions, strap on your wapon and live your life. We will not enforce these unconscionable laws that prohibit you from legally doing so.”

How many times have you carried on the NYC subway? The Chicago L? The Los Angeles Metro Rail?

swmft

all the places a pistol or taser are really needed , and people should know tasers dont work on every buddy and drugs mitigate their effect

JSNMGC

Yes, and all are places where your life will be ruined (or ended) if you “just ignore these distractions, strap on your weapon, and live your life” and you get caught.

swmft

and they are the places that ignore federal law even ex law enforcement from other states or federal have problems with them

HLB

I have not been everywhere. I have open carried on State Tax Collector property with no-weapons signs and walked past the security guard with no conflict. I have worn open in my State Legislative House. I have worn open in my County Court House. I have arranged to have the deputies hold my weapon for me while attending jury duty. I have worn open to my Board of Supervisors meetings. I have stood in door ways with my foot holding the door open and discussed my wearing of my weapon with police and business owners. I have asked nice people… Read more »

JSNMGC

If only more than a handful of LEOs would not arrest people for carrying where it is illegal to do so, more “civilians” would do what you want. I also live in an area where carrying is not a problem. However, I’m not going to suggest people in other areas just strap on their gat and go about their business. If you want to follow your own advice and go to one of the three locations I described above you will see why your advice, for a large percentage of the population, will not turn out well. Make sure you… Read more »

JSNMGC

Reply on hold – if you try open carrying in one of the three locations I mentioned and stand next to a LEO, please report back on your experience.

A large percentage of Americans will have their lives ruined (or ended) if they follow your advice.

HLB

Well, let us talk about this. Why can we not approach those areas and people as our own group? Over time, we can move closer, and closer. These people can be conditioned, but you have to apply steady pressure over time. We can identify a pressure point, and meet there, you and I and some others, once a year, and enjoy a good meal afterwards, not in jail. I have done it Locally, We can do it Nationally.

HLB

JSNMGC

I suggest you go (unarmed) with me first so I can show you the lay of the land. I think you may change your mind.

Meanwhile, why don’t we make it clear to LEOs that if they arrest people for carrying, they will be totally ostracized from their community. What do you think?

HLB

I can not go unarmed. My body will not respond. I look down and my weapon is strapped on. I don’t think it is possible. But I would like to meet up with some people some time. I am in Mississippi. I can fly private but not commercial. I can drive. Trains seem to be a problem. If only we were free…

HLB

JSNMGC

Ok. All I ask is that you stand a few feet away from me. We can meet in Chicago and ride the L around and see how long it takes before numerous police (with poor firearm skills and scared out of their minds) are pointing guns at you and screaming vulgar and contradictory “commands” at you. Seriously, I wouldn’t want any Ammoland commentors to have their life ruined or ended. I encourage you to test the environment in a way that does not put you at unnecessary risk. I carry a firearm to mitigate the risk of my life (or… Read more »

HLB

Roger.

HLB

hippybiker

I fully support Constitutional Carry in my State of Florida! And, In support our Governor Ron DeSantis! However, I will choose to keep my CCW license because it allows me reciprocity in over 30+ States.
Until the whole country goes Constitutional Carry, it’s the best option for me!
“Arm up and carry on!”

Ope

The NICS call in b/g checks from your FFL on firearm purchases is waived too with the CCW..

Wild Bill

hippy and Ope,
Yep, both good reasons that I renewed mine, too.

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swmft

it does mean you dont wait ,does not mean it is not run ,atf has been running every one they find that was not run, only sales not covered are person to person and that is only in some states we do have to be careful to get it right ,we have people from every state and territory here so we do our level best to let newbies know what they have to look out for……. I know stop being an old coot @Wild Bill we are older “wiser?” so we need to give best info or links there are… Read more »

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Wild Bill

OK.

swmft

not in every state
and so you are aware atf runs every one that was not run at time of sale when they do audits

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DDS

Uh…..nope!

You still fill out the 4473. It still gets called in. You still have to wait until the “instant check*” comes back with a green light.

You are, however, exempt from the state’s 3 day waiting period and can leave with your purchase as soon as the federal background check clears.

*On one particular “Black Friday” weekend, that instant check took over 4 hours to clear. If you’re in a hurry, don’t buy a firearm around any big shopping weekend.

Ope

Uh yep,I don’t believe we are talking about the exact same thing. In most states when you buy anything serialized (firearms,suppressors,etc.) from your FFL the call-in b/g check is waived with your CCW.Of course we all do the 4473 but I’m spec.talking about the NISC call-in b/g check. It’s waived at least in my state. The FFL doesn’t call in anything because he’s not required to. Ive done this for many years and know this as a fact.I will keep my license current for this reason and the reciprocity in over 30 other states.

swmft

in some states and atf may have just changed that in their “new” rules it was one of the things on the whish list to make every one do background check so watch for that in your local state rules

Ope

I’m not familiar about the laws or new rules in other states. I’m specifically talking about how it’s been in Texas since at least 1995. I guess some people assume that laws from state to state are the same. That’s not true.

swmft

the fbi made agreements with some states abut there ccw programs that would forgo nics checks every time, some do a check on your ccw every year and revoke based on outcome , so you have to keep up with your state and any you visit…pia

Ope

One other thing. The NICS b/g check is waived because you have already passed the FBI b/g when you got your license. Those CCW’s are constantly monitored by the states against any arrests and convictions which would revoked your license immediately.

swmft

I think in part it is the states that report better to nics that get treated different some states only update yearly some like florida is quarterly others is almost realtime military almost never

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Ope

I really thought Florida was one of the states that had the NICS b/g check waived with CCW when purchasing firearms.

swmft

no ,and i think it is the reporting issue about half of the states have some licenses that qualify as brady exempt full list is at atf https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart if you read the list it will leave you saying WHAT?

swmft

how sad is it federal government cant even report crimes or violations within their own framework, but we cant be trusted

swmft

nics must have a white list too, I stopped to fill out 4473 with the idea of picking up the gun later in the week ,mine came back before I could get out the door, two ex police I know were there when I arrived and left with my gun, one said he had been waiting about 4 hours the only answer I had was I had 12 sets of 3 fingerprints taken for the job I did someone trusts me, scares the hell out of me they still have all that in a file, hoover set the fbi up… Read more »

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Tionico

some states only. You’d think that wouid be true everywhere, but then you’d once more be thinking wrongly.

Da t’ing iz.. day wants da record of whut ya bought. For sum reesun er uther…..

swmft

many people dont understand that constitutional carry fixes many problems with current laws ,if you can open carry there is no brandishing, under current law if you need to take out your gun you have to shoot or you are guilty of brandishing . most people dont want to shoot anyone but want to be able to send the thugs packing….they could call 911 and the police will send them to icu or morgue when they arrive or carry a gun and be willing to do what is needed

john

Same here in GA keeping ccw

Arny

And the Wild Wild West would be bad in Chicago & other States ? At least they would have a fighting chance. As to being executed by thugs.
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swmft

if the police dont have the will to drive the criminals out the people should be able to

Knute Knute

What should the people do when the police become the criminals, like with the Thugees in what is now India??

swmft

reason I have a 50 no body armor stops api , I worked dea in miami,and south america I have seen bad criminal police and military the zetas of mexico were trained at the us training bases here as counter narcotics …well armed well trained criminals best training in the world .. to be safe you need superior numbers intelligence weapon systems .. or be invisible . I traveled in Colombia and was ignored by farac and the usdfc , I did get shot at to be sure but I am here 50% luck 45% training 5% instinct that little… Read more »

HLB

Yes, 50 BMG and Armor Piercing Incendiary ammunition. Even a small group of people can control whatever type of Putin takes over our streets with these things. Don’t forget the big press, brass, powder, projectiles and primers. I do have some concern over the skull squeezing caused by my muzzle break. I can feel my head returning to normal size after every shot. Os raf on lli stceffe.

BLH

gregs

no, a drivers license is not required to drive a car, anyone can drive a motorized vehicle on private property with the permission of the owner, doesn’t matter if you are drunk, underage, or have had your license revoked.

data/facts/statistics have no relevance to leftists tyrants, they do not care about them, whatever they say is factual. gun-free zones don’t work, gun control laws don’t work.

i don’t remember any prediction by the anti’s/left that have come true when it comes to firearms, or any other subject but at least they are consistent.

hippybiker

Sorry gregs. Not quite true. If you are in your car intoxicated on private property and you have your keys, the NAZI’s can and will bust you for intent. I know, it’s not right but the Scum get away with it!

swmft

you would have to be adjacent to a road or right of way

swmft

it is funny they consider the elimination of the criminal element from society a crime . just goes to show you can only fool someone so long, then they get mad

Ope

Let the gun-grabbing losers continue to whine about CC as it continues to be passed into law in over half the states with many more to come. Who cares what they think ? When those losers are upset I’m happy because that means good thing are happening that they can’t control They love control. I live to piss off liberals with truth and facts.

swmft

they are going nuts over court overturning federal grab of states rights (rowe)

john

The New York Post is no longer considered a conservative newspaper they have fallen hard and fast. NYC is a cesspool of crime hate and violence under democratic control.

swmft

the haters are democrats, there are still nice independents in nyc they are just treated as non people

PMinFl

I suppose you’re right, I no longer go to NYC. I don’t have to since retirement gave me that freedom. I go around NYC to visit family anfd friends still captive in Ct., I don’t even pass through the city.

swmft

I have a beach house on cape cod ,and go through white planes and the merritt parkway to avoid the city roundabout way to go but almost no nj ,have done I90 too but that was from out west , that would be a long trip from florida I 75 to I90 even I81 to I90 only time I go that far north is to visit family in vermont and either cross at rouses point or Ticonderoga have done the northway (i87) IN A WHITEOUT new york police officer was stuck with people at a food/fuel stop ,had to laugh… Read more »

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