Woman Draws Her Gun to Stop Assault on the Street

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U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- We start with this news story out of South Bend, Indiana  reported by the local news station ABC-57.

You are walking down the street. A man rides his bike past you, and then stops and turns around. You are a woman and it is uncomfortable to be approached by homeless men. The stranger asks you for money. You say no and back away. He asks again, but this time he pulls a gun out of his pants and points it at you.

You run away and hide behind a dumpster. You draw your own gun and point it at your attacker. You shout for help and people from across the street see you. Your attacker rides away on his bike. You call 911.

You put your gun away and give a statement to the police. Officers interview the people at the gas station across the street. The police review security video from the gas station. The police arrest a suspect nearby. You identify him as your attacker. He is carrying a BB-gun and is arrested for intimidation.

You are arrested for carrying a firearm without a license. The new permitless-carry law in Indiana does not go into effect for another 60 days. You are released and not charged.

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I couldn’t help but notice the things this armed defender did correctly. She moved away from her attacker which gave her time to react. She chose not to draw her firearm when her attacker already had his gun out and pointed at her. She ran to cover. She presented her firearm either on the run or when she was safely behind cover. She did not face a lethal and immediate threat once she was safely behind cover so she did not shoot her attacker. She called for help which alerted witnesses at the nearby gas station. She kept her gun out until the attacker rode away. The defender holstered her gun and stayed at the scene. She gave a report to the police.

The news report doesn’t give us all the details that we’d like to have. We don’t know the time of day when this attack took place. I read news reports that said the defender ran behind some trash cans while another report said she ducked behind a dumpster. Maybe both are true. We don’t know if the defender was at the gas station or across the street from it.

This defense is ordinary in that the attacker changed his plans when he recognized that his intended victim was armed. The attacker fled the scene rather than pressing his attack. The defender stopped the attack without having to fire her gun. That is what happens most of the time.

There are a number of additional things we’d like to do if we were assaulted on the street. The obvious advice is to avoid a criminal conviction for carrying a firearm without a license. In some states you don’t need a permit. Indiana recently passed permitless carry legislation, but that law hadn’t taken effect yet. Good guys obey the law when they can.

We want to stay inside the law in our state and in states we visit. It would be tragic if this defender were barred from legally carrying a firearm because she had a criminal conviction for carrying without a license. We have to learn the laws and how to carry responsibly. I suggest you take a class. I suggest you take a class even if you’ve carried for years. I learn something new every time I take a class.

The concealed carry class might not be legally necessary.
The information covered in the class remains essential.

Let’s look at one of the bad habits in the self defense community. The old saying used to be that you shouldn’t touch your gun unless you intended to shoot. I think that is wrong. Touching our gun, presenting our gun, pointing our gun at the intended attacker, and pressing the trigger are separate and distinct decisions.

We can touch our gun when we recognize a potentially lethal, immediate, and unavoidable threat of death or serious injury. Getting our firing hand on our concealed firearm cuts our draw time in half. Yes, we have to articulate why we touched our gun. Yes, we have to call the police.

Cover stops bullets, and being behind a metal dumpster is pretty good cover. In this story, the attackers bullets would have to go through at least two layers of metal. That safe position gives us time to draw our firearm.

The attacker who is 50 feet away is probably not an immediate and lethal threat. At that distance, we don’t have to “point in” and put our sights on him, but presenting our firearm to the low-ready position might be appropriate. I say “might” because the story doesn’t tell us what was behind the attacker. I was taught that the low-ready position lets us see the attacker’s hands. We might not want to point our gun that way if the attacker is standing in front of the glass windows at a gas station-convenience store. We have the right to defend ourselves but we don’t have the right to put other innocent individuals at risk.

As another practical matter, we don’t want to frighten potential witnesses by pointing our gun at them.

Our attacker demonstrated that he was a threat when he pointed his gun at us. We’re now safely behind cover and at a distance. We can present to the low-ready and call for help. Our situation can change in the blink of an eye and become a lethal attack if the attacker moves toward us. That is when we are justified in putting our sights on target and pressing the trigger. In contrast, pointing our gun at our attacker who is across the street might get us charged with aggravated assault. Those details matter.

You’ll include details like that in the report your lawyer helps you file, and in your brief statement to the police. The witnesses that turned when you shouted for help can report where your gun was pointed.

Shouting for help is important. It helps create ear witnesses and eye witnesses. In one case the ear witnesses can report that you shouted for the attacker to stop before he closed the distance and you had to shoot. In another case, the eye witnesses can testify that you presented your gun to the low-ready position and didn’t shoot as the attacker ran away.

The firearms community tends to focus on the gun and on marksmanship skills, but defensive skills should include when to run away. I was in a hand-to-hand class where the scenario showed a drunk dropping his gun on the floor in a shopping mall. In that scenario, I chose to walk out the back door and call the police rather than disarm a drunk in the middle of a mall.

Try to get classes that let you practice a full range of responses. That is important from the very start when we learn to present our firearm. We can change our mind at any time. We might present our firearm, aim at the attacker and touch the trigger, and then decide not to shoot. That is why we want to include presenting and not shooting as we practice our draw. We want to program both actions so we have them when we need them.

That gun handling practice lets us perform reliably when we are under stress. The witnesses from across the street would see us lower our gun as the attacker runs away. They see us stand up and look around. They see us slowly and safely holster our firearm now that the threat is gone. That controlled and practiced response leaves an impression. We are a trained defender.

As vague as those details of gun-handling sound, they can be critical. We’ve had reports of armed defenders and police seeing a person with a gun after an attack at a shopping mall. The defenders didn’t shoot the other armed individual because they recognized he was standing with his firearm at the close-contact-sul position so he didn’t look like a gang member or a terrorist. He looked like a trained defender.

We only get one chance to make a first impression. Then we call our lawyer to fill out a complete report.

-Rob Morse highlights the latest self-defense and other shootings of the week. See what went wrong, what went right, and what we can learn from real-life self-defense with a gun. Even the most justified self-defense shooting can go wrong, especially after the shot. Get the education, the training, and the liability coverage you and your family deserve.


About Rob Morse

Rob writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, at Second Call Defense, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob was an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.Rob Morse

 

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FJB

Maybe take out a $5 and ask him for $3 bucks back in change. Tell him you really need it while you have your hand on your “lifesupport partner”. It’s his move now! Chances are – he isn’t going to have change;) ALWAYS stay COOL!

Russn8r

Great article. Question: “Individual”? Why not “person”, “man”, “woman” etc, none of which need be distinguished from a collective?

john

Constitutional carry or permitless carry has been on the rise in the last 20 years. Alaska was the first state to pass it in 2003. This was followed by Arizona and Wyoming (2010); Kansas, Maine, and Mississippi (2015); Idaho, Missouri, and West Virginia (2016); New Hampshire and North Dakota (2017); Arkansas (2018); Kentucky, Oklahoma and South Dakota (2019); Iowa, Tennessee, Texas, Montana, Utah, and Wyoming (2021); and Alabama, Ohio, Indiana and Georgia (2022). Vermont has been a constitutional carry state since 1793, with it written in its constitution. Nineteen of the 25 states (or 76 percent) have adopted constitutional carry or… Read more »

Pa John

You are arrested for carrying a firearm without a license. The new permitless-carry law in Indiana does not go into effect for another 60 days. You are released and not charged. So on the one hand, they apparently did not charge her for carrying concealed without a permit before the new “constitutional carry” law comes into effect. That seems appropriate to me. But on the other hand, it is a virtual certainty that the police kept her firearm since it was at least technically carried illegally. The article doesn’t say for sure, but police ALWAYS seem to collect the law… Read more »

swmft

cop that arrested her was a dick wad and should be fired , a good leo would have explained the pending status of the law and let it go

JayWPB

I teach that you never touch your weapon unless you’re PREPARED to shoot, and that you never aim your weapon at a person unless you INTEND to shoot.

If you aim a firearm at me, I will assume that you intend to kill me, and I will do anything and everything I can to prevent that from happening.

swmft

florida ccw is worded in such a way ,only time you present you have to fire brandishing rules kind of stupid when most perps will run , there are all kinds of people with jungle mentality I am bigger I take what I want a small armed female is supposed to shoot all of them ? constitutional carry fixes that

Green Mtn. Boy

As a citizen the only permit needed is covered in the 2 nd. amendment.

Ope

The 2A says it all. No expiration date either. The easiest to understand 27 words I’ve ever read.

WeWereWarned

”I am just following orders”. The 5 words that older conservatives says trumps the 2nd Amendment. “Officer safety”. The 2 words conservatives says makes it okay for a socialist enforcer to murder one of us Citizens, because we are exercising our rights by being armed. If the cop was a coward or wanted the adrenaline rush of pressing their trigger.

WeWereWarned

The author of this article here at ammoland doesn’t agree with your correct view on the 2nd Amendment, nor do older conservatives. Since they are the ones, who made it to where a socialist enforcer can murder us Citizens our harm our Liberty, over us exercising our 2nd Amendment, like the article is an example of. The author is blaming the victim for not getting government permission to defend her life. That scenario, is what the 2nd Amendment is meant to say no to with violence. Her arresting officer has the same vile contempt of Liberty as the British enforcers,… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

No Sir, she did NOT do this correctly. You can’t out run a bullet. You wait for the opportune moment such as your attacker points his gun somewhere else or takes his eyes off you etc. That’s when you draw and shoot. If you are armed with only an edged weapon this is when you rapidly close the distance and disarm him or inflict enough damage to disable or down your attacker before he can do the same to you. You MUST assume your attacker means business and WILL SHOOT/KILL you. To think otherwise is death. If you are armed… Read more »

Wild Bill

I always carry a second wallet that only has a couple of ones and business cards that I am not interested in. By dropping the wallet it creates the “eyes off me” opportune moment that you describe.

john

If armed and confronted by another with a weapon who wants to do you dirty do not blink do not speak do not try to discuss the issue . Be first to shoot and first to walk away.

Life is not a movie with just one more take.

Deplorable Bill

Good Idea Sir!

Arm up and carry on

WeWereWarned

No,it isn’t. Carry an extra gun over the wallet. Drop your real wallet and smoke the threat. It is to get a distraction on a drawn gun since action beats reaction. John above you is correct. The fact the threat did not press the trigger and rifle the corpse, like real dangerous threats do, was the threat hesitating to press the trigger. That needs to be capitalized on by the Citizen.

swmft

money clip with ones wrapped around cards same effect and they see what looks like a lot of money , friend has some of the advertising fake money ,i would be afraid i would be charged for having counterfit money

WeWereWarned

Sir, a woman has to keep distance or they get hurt. That is television nonsense where a woman takes down a man, who knows violence. It is why female cops are dangerous, since they can only place a man in cuffs, if that man was raised to not hurt women or is dead. I will teach my daughter to shoot, and situational awareness. She should have been prepared to draw and pull the trigger, when she saw the guy coming towards her. It is a homeless drunk/junkie, that is not a normal person to project normal values upon. The instant… Read more »

john

On a bike dumpster homeless man with a gun this tale is way out their brother. It is a good thing this did not take place in NYC or LA they would have given the homeless guy a free hotel room with a meal and a bottle of whiskey no charges filed. The women on the other hand is rich big money CEO of a large company the DA press charges fines her tens of thousands of dollars for pointing a handgun at a unarmed man with a BB gun. She has to do 20 weeks of community service where… Read more »