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Silence from Gun Prohibitionists After Armed Citizen Stops Mall Shooter

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Once again, gun prohibition lobbying groups are locked in silence after a legally-armed 22-year-old intervened quickly to fatally shoot a would-be mass killer who opened fire at the Greenwood Park Mall in Greenwood, Ind., in an action police are hailing as heroic.

“The real hero of the day is the citizen that was lawfully carrying a firearm in that food court and was able to stop the shooter almost as soon as he began,” Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison told a press briefing Sunday evening.

Reuters quoted Greenwood Mayor Mark Meyers, who said in a prepared statement, “We do know that someone we are calling a ‘Good Samaritan’ was able to shoot the assailant and stop further bloodshed. This person saved lives tonight. I am grateful for his quick action and heroism.”

It is not the first time an armed private citizen has killed a killer. According to the FBI, last year armed citizens stopped six “active shooters.” In four of those cases, the perpetrator was killed. In each case, the gun ban lobby was mum.

CNN noted in its coverage of the shooting, “It’s rare to have an armed bystander attack an active shooter, according to a data analysis published by The New York Times.”

“There were at least 433 active shooter attacks in the US from 2000 to 2021, according to the data analysis,” CNN added. “Active shooter attacks were defined as those in which one or more shooters killed or attempted to kill multiple unrelated people in a populated place.”

“Of those 433 active shooter cases, an armed bystander shot the attacker in 22 of the incidents. In 10 of those, the ‘good guy” was a security guard or an off-duty police officer, the Times reported.”

Three people were killed and two others wounded before the unidentified armed citizen intervened. However, authorities have suggested things could have been much worse if the killer had been able to continue his mayhem.

There is a small bit of irony reported by Reuters, which notes the mall is owned by the Simon Property Group, and they have a “no guns” policy. Here is the mall’s Code of Conduct found online:

While visiting this mall, the following general activities will not be accepted:

  • Violations of the law
  • Any activity that threatens the safety of our guests, tenants and/or employees
  • Any activity that threatens the well-being of the property
  • Any activity that disrupts our pleasant, family-oriented shopping environment
  • Any activity inconsistent with the general purpose of the property, which is shopping, dining, visiting theaters or offices for business purposes
  • Any activity that would disrupt the legitimate business of the property and its tenants

Examples of specific activities that are prohibited include but are not limited to:

  • Disruptive profanity, vulgar or threatening language
  • Unnecessarily blocking walkways, roadways or storefronts
  • Running, horseplay or disorderly conduct of any nature
  • Excessive loitering
  • Operating unauthorized recreational and/or personal transportation devices in the shopping center
  • No firearms or illegal weapons

“The center is a privately owned property. Guests who do not act responsibly may be asked to leave. If they refuse to leave the property, they may be arrested and prosecuted for criminal trespass.”

Clearly, the dead gunman violated virtually all of these rules, while the armed citizen apparently violated only the last tenet.

Greenwood Park Mall posted this statement on its website:

“We grieve for the victims of yesterday’s horrific tragedy at Greenwood Park Mall. Violence has no place in this or any other community. We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect.”

Indiana this year became a “Constitutional Carry” state.

The Sunday mall shooting carries another piece of irony. NPR is reporting, “Nearly 400 law enforcement officials rushed to mass shooting that left 21 people dead at a Uvalde elementary school but ‘systemic failures’ created a chaotic scene that lasted more than an hour before the gunman was finally confronted and killed, according to a report from investigators released Sunday.”

A lone armed citizen accomplished in moments what took all of those lawmen more than an hour.

The Greenwood Mall killer reportedly had several loaded magazines for his rifle, described initially only as a “long rifle.” It was not immediately known how many rounds he was able to fire before being shot dead by the unidentified armed citizen, who is also being variously described in reports as a “Good Samaritan” and “armed bystander.”

According to the most recent report from the Crime Prevention Research Center, Indiana has more than 1.1 million active concealed carry permits, and now there are likely even more people carrying because of the Constitutional Carry law now in effect. That’s more than 15 percent of the adult population, according to a map at the CPRC website.

The AP reported the hero citizen hails from nearby Bartholomew County. There was no description of his sidearm.


About Dave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms, and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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Larryd

Well, even though this guy is a hero, the main stream media still makes him look bad. It took ten shots to bring this situation to a conclusion, and it is a reminder why the good guys should have high capacity magazines also.

3manfan

If anyone learns the type of handgun & ammo used, pls post.

I’ve heard the distance was approx. 40-ish yards & 10 rounds were fired by the Hero but not the type of gun or ammo he used.

Last edited 25 days ago by 3manfan
Finnky

Anyone know whether he had a red dot or not? Important for us old farts with diminishing eye-sight, probably not so much for healthy 22 year old. Any info as to whether Eli has ever participated in formal competitive shooting (IDPA or others)? Does it really matter which model his pistol was? Sure iron sights on a 26 or 43 would be even more impressive, but those hits cold, fast and under fire are friggin impressive! My biggest concern would be reduced energy from shorter barrels – but having to make eight hits to stop attack is entirely inline with… Read more »

3manfan

They quickly pivoted to “how dare he take someone’s life like that….he had no right to kill”.

Mind-numbing.

Bigfootbob

It’s got a clinical name, cognitive dissonance. I pray to God daily for him saving me from being a dimocRAT, and all the mental anguish that brings to the table.

CourageousLion

My take on the whole mess is this. A governor of a state needs to step up and re-establish a well regulated militia. If there were THOUSANDS of people that were well trained as part of the state militia carrying firearms for self defense and the SECURITY of a free state, these SSRI damaged individuals will not last but a few seconds at any given location and will look like swiss cheese when many armed militia members open up on them. Of course the REASON we no longer have state militias is that the “powers that be” saw them as… Read more »

CourageousLion

It is obvious WHY they don’t report on it. It doesn’t fit their narrative of guns bad, people who have them bad. Because in reality MURDER is bad and to stop murder, especially mass murder you need to be able to SHOOT the bad guy.

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MICHAEL J

It’s as almost the left would prefer more carnage as to the number of potential victims spared. Of course we all know the proper response was a timely armed deterent, but insane people who kill complete strangers are somehow convinced they’ll be none, probably brought about the anti-2nd Amendment loons who would disarm the law-abiding in favor of their sick logic.

Wild Bill

I don’t think that more soft target laws are the answer. Good and timely report, Dave.

CourageousLion

The person who posted that for that group is mentally deranged. He also thinks his life is more valuable than a police officer or soldier. He thinks that they should defend him if he is threatened. He is a pitiful example of a typical boot licking slave. May his chains lay lightly upon him and may posterity never remember who he was.

Coelacanth

Their statement is some serious “blah, blah, blah”. Talk about cognitive dissonance!

Deplorable Bill

The man is a hero, the guilty party died before he could murder or maim others, maybe many others, and the media and social media are tyrannical, not wanting to even post the story because it doesn’t fit their ideals. Things like this, a armed man saving lives happens many, many more times than published. Why is that??? If the numbers of dead actually mattered to the government or the media, the drugs coming over the OPEN BORDERS and the open borders themselves would be a priority. Nothing causes greater loss of life here in America and, maybe, in the… Read more »

CourageousLion

“We are being destroyed by “our” own government and the government is being helped by the media and the Chinese and the cartels and others.” I’m sad to say Bill, that it hasn’t been “our” government ever since the war of Southern independence. It has been a banker run and controlled communist utopia ever since. All 10 planks are in force and effect. “They” think they own us.

Rodoeo

yeah they hate it when an armed citizen ruins their plan…

Agostino

There was a similar example in Virginia in which a woman shot an individual who opened fire from inside a vehicle. He was shooting at a birthday party. He was the only fatality.

nrringlee

The left is not interested in facts. They are interested in propaganda.

CourageousLion

They are interested in having their boots on our face.

james

CNBC had headline ‘mall shooter gunned down by armed shopper’ or something to the effect of.

swmft

this is why shot placement counts, and where practice shows cc guns are for the most part small caliber….and if local anti gun nut is in the shooters sights wait to take your shot …remember they want to be victims

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CourageousLion

I think they should wear T-shirts adverting the fact they are irresposible full grown mentally retarded children who think THEIR lives are more important than police or military.

Protect defend serve

Sad the left leaning media call a hero a criminal or a killer. Not surprised though as it doesn’t fit their narrative to do otherwise. One of the nut jobs went so far as to say with so many guns in America we should be the safest place on earth. We would be IF we citizens were allowed to carry everywhere and teach by our children safe gun handling. BUT it’s hard to protect anyone when you can’t. It’s kinda like owning a car and not being allowed to drive it because someone says to have to ride public transportation… Read more »

Terry

The Karens are already attacking. They say he’s not a “Good Samaritan” because he murdered the poor misunderstood Mall shooter. You can’t make s#$t like this up.

J Gibbons

The poor misunderstood young adult with multiple weapons, multiple magazines for each and who spent an hour in the men’s room planning before starting his spree. Good riddance. Proud to stand beside the fellow Hoosier who saw a problem and was prepared to deal with the problem before it became worse.

Bigfootbob

As a Hoosier at birth, I stand with you too. Even though I only lived the first 17 years of my life in Evansville, at 68 I still consider myself a Hoosier and am damn thankful my first 17 years were in Indiana rather than my adopted state of Washington. It set me up for life.

totbs

It’s good to have that sane background in place before coming to WA ST. One sure needs it to deal with the crap here. I got my background in IL way before people like Light-in-the-loafers were around.

Terry

I just hope he had enough time left to die screaming.

macdog

Beggin for his mama

Jonesy

Yup. And one of the first anus lickers was Shannon Watts.

swmft

publish names of these people and home addresses they obviously want to be victims , give there car type and color with tag number ,then they can have the fun of being carjacked too

Ral3312

You don’t understand – the left is comprised of Marxists, they will never stop until……..it’s what they do. They want to be the only armed people in the population- NOT GONNA HAPPEN

Laddyboy

The FIRST RESPONDER HERO is said to be charged with a crime. This FIRST RESPONDER had a LEGAL concealed gun on his person. THIS IS WHY Legal Law Abiding American Citizens MUST have QUALIFIED IMMUNITY, JUST as the Police do IF, or WHEN they are FORCED to DEFEND themselves or other INNOCENT Citizens! American Citizens are not blessed to have the Police or PRIVATE SECURITY stand guard around them as the “politicians, judges or executive office holders” have. MOST American Citizens are not RICH in money nor FORCE the American Public to PAY for their SECURITY GUARDS!

J Gibbons

Based on the local information available, I do not believe he has been charged. Thankfully, this did not occur in Indianapolis or Marion County, where he would likely be charged and then ultimately exonerated.

Griff

Don’t you realize it’s impossible for an armed citizen to stop a mass shooting? If you shoot the perpetrator before the minimum number of people are shot, it wasn’t a mass shooting. If you shoot after the minimum number of people are shot, you didn’t stop it! Catch 22!!! Where’s the barf smiley when you really need it?

Wild Bill

True, but an armed citizen can stop a “planned mass shooting”. If the media wanted to they could analyze what the perp brought with him and conclude that he intended to shoot more than one.

MICHAEL J

“It’s rare to have an armed bystander attack an active shooter, according to a data analysis published by The New York Times.”

It’s rare to have a report published by the left telling the truth.

Oldvet

MICHAEL…It may be rarely reported , by intent .
Remember we didn’t hear about every shooting until the brandon admin started this anti gun push . I still think they have a list of people who can be as that kid said ” amped up” when gun control needs a shooting .

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Russn8r

NY Slimes telling the truth is surely far more rare than armed bystanders attacking active shooters.

Laddyboy

TRUE!

BenV

Mainly because most active shooting take place in gun free zones where law abiding citizens are prohibited from carrying.

swmft

not just this, but they count the gang shootings in the mass shootings but the shooter that stops the killing is another gang member ,so it is treated as different killing. all very convoluted

linkman

We did get statements from Kris Brown from Brady called it “vigilante” and “good guy with a gun” is a myth and Shannon Watts from Moms Demand Action tried to tie it to the new constitutional carry law there.

Both agents are wrong. Watts is diverting from the issue and attempting to confuse people — the bad guy would have brought guns there regardless of the law and the good guy was actually aided by the new law.

Russn8r

Need more “vigilantes”.

Laddyboy

Good “vigilantes” who are the GOOD GUY WITH THE GUN !

macdog

Agreed, a 22 year old with the where with all to carry inspite of the soft target regulations and effectively eliminating the POS. POS got an immediate death sentence as should any other wanna be mass killers, no matter what weapon they may choose.

Wild Bill

“Soft Target Regulations” is an excellent turn of a phrase. All gun control laws turn us into soft targets. I suggest that we use take control of the national conversation by calling all gun control, red flag, and permit schemes … Soft Target Regulations.
Let’s take the initiative away from the gun grabbers. And a big thank you to macdog for a brilliant turn of a phrase!

Bigfootbob

You are exactly right. We need to work SOFT TARGET REGULATIONS into our lexicons, make the libtards spend energy mitigating the language like conservatives have to.

Wild Bill

Yes, we have to be as clever, tough, and ruthless as our enemies.

macdog

Thank you. Best term i could up with. But unfortunately too true throughout our the once great republic. Thanks creepy, treasonous joe and company

Wild Bill

I like the way you think! If you come up with any more, don’t be afraid to share.

macdog

I have my moments every now and then

Ral3312

I’m 76 – I carry everywhere. In todays environment, I believe you’re a fool if you don’t

macdog

Remember Wakisha. That POS is still breathing. WHY? A quote I once heard, you want to get a man’s attention, set them on fire.

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Ope

Dave,another really good article. Thanks.

Wild Bill

Hey Dave,
Did you see macdog’s terrific phrase “soft target regulations”.Gun control turns us into soft targets. Governments intentionally turn us into soft targets. Gun control = soft targets. As a national author, you could be helpful in taking the language initiative.

DDS

I was once told that “vigilante justice” is a lot like bad breath.

Better than no breath at all.

xtphreak

MSN reports “…Police say the 22-year-old from Bartholomew County had a legal gun permit. However, according to mall policy, the man should not have been carrying his handgun in the mall in the first place….”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/armed-good-samaritan-stopped-indiana-mall-shooting-broke-mall-rules/ar-AAZHvm8

My CCW app (Dave Workman’s app) says “…No laws found to enforce ‘no guns’ signs…”.

So yeah, IF they knew he was carrying, they’d ask him to leave.

Gun Free Zones are where only the law abiding are disarmed.

Ope

Maybe the mall will re-evaluate its position on firearms after this incident. The fact that he had his firearm saved lives. Like you said, GFZ’s disarm the law-abiding and are magnets to criminals intent on murdering as many innocent people as possible without any civilian interference.

J Gibbons

They won’t. The Simon family is a very left leaning family that buys into many of the progressive idiocies of the day.

Russn8r

Thanks for being the key vote to destroy the NRA. What was the quid pro quo, by the way?

BenV

The mall posted on its website:

“We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect.”

Dubi Loo

I guess the “Simon Group” would prefer the good guy followed their STUPID rule and had more dead people? Dead people with families who should rightfully sue the “Simon Group.”

Green Mtn. Boy

Marxist/civilian disarmament proponents have to further the agenda, no matter how insane it is.

Russn8r

Silence from Workman on how his swing vote put LaPew’s “Winning Team” grifter coup d’etat over the top to destroy the NRA.

Never Forget Betrayal.

Never Forgive someone who won’t even admit he made a mistake.

Patriot Solutions

My new distributer cap cracked the other day after 750 miles while on a 500 mile trip through rural Cabalarado and because I had tools, electricity and a hot glue gun with me I was able to repair it enough to make it to the next town about 40 miles ahead where I bought a new one and replaced the cracked one. I also carry an impact gun for changing tires. Guns are handy tools never leave home without them.

Laddyboy

Correct! Tools are inanimate objects which take up space and have weight. They are useless — till the time they are CORRECTLY used!

rbdjr

Yes CORRECT, How many people own a fire Extinguisher, not because they want to put their own house fire out but it could happen.