U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)-– The Dane County Sheriff’s Office will be holding a gun “buyback” on August 13, 2022, in Madison, Wisconsin, at the Alliant Energy Center. “Buyback” is an Orwellian term. The guns which will be turned in to the police and sheriff deputies at the event were never owned by the government, so they cannot be “bought back”.
The Alliant Energy Center is part of the Madison Coliseum complex, at 1919 Alliant Energy Center Way. There are large parking lots with little roadside parking. The event is to start at 10 a.m. and end at 2 p.m. $50,000 dollars has been allocated for the event. About $12,000 of the money will be used for overtime of the police and deputies.
The resolution provides $50,000 for the program – $12,000 for staff
overtime costs for the Sheriff’s Office and the Madison Police
Department, and the remaining amount will be used towards the purchase
of fuel and grocery gift cards, facility use fees and supplies.
The Dane County Sheriff’s department announced the following amounts will be exchanged in gift cards:
- $250 for “assault rifles”
- $250 for “ghost guns”
- $100 for rifles, shotguns, and pistols
- $50 for revolvers
- $10-20 for facsimiles, BB guns, and air guns.
No walk-ups will be accepted. Guns are to be in the cargo compartments of vehicles. The firearms are to be unloaded. Ammunition that participants desire to turn in is asked to be kept in the passenger compartment of the vehicle. A maximum of four guns will be accepted per person.
No soliciting (private sales) will be allowed at the Alliant Energy Center. This presents a challenge to private purchasers of firearms.
This correspondent spoke with Elise of the Dane County Sheriff’s office. She agreed the definitions of the above firearms were fluid, and considerable officer discretion in payments for particular firearms was necessary.
The Sheriff’s Office reserves the right to close the event early if the gift cards run out.
This is a strong possibility. When gift cards run out at these events, people often still show up and are willing to sell firearms to private purchasers.
Madison, Wisconsin, is in the heart of deer and pheasant hunting country. The area has a strong tradition of shooting sports. Many of the people turning in guns at these events inherited the guns and have little or no knowledge of how much they are worth.
It is likely many sporting shotguns and rifles worth hundreds of dollars will be turned in for $100 worth of gift cards. The sleeper here is revolvers. Only $50 is offered for revolvers.
Revolver prices have kept pace with inflation. Decent revolvers cost several hundred dollars. It is likely there will be significant numbers of Smith & Wesson, Ruger, and Colt revolvers turned in at the event for a few percent of what they are worth on the market.
Private buyers at these events have been resilient, persistent, and inventive. They may set up tables at the entrances to the Alliant Energy Center, for example. The private purchase of firearms is legal in Wisconsin. Madison banned the sale of handguns for a few years, but the state legislature passed a preemption bill forbidding local governments from doing so. From a Madison police legal update in 2011:
This is an interesting excert on how the Madison police department viewed 66.0409 in Spring of 2011. It came from the Madison police department web site titled Legal Update. It apparently is done under authority of Captain Victor Whal. [ … ] So, while these ordinances remain on the books, most of them (prohibiting the sale of firearms, prohibiting the possession of short-barreled handguns, prohibiting the possession of assault weapons, etc) are unenforceable.
Officers should not take enforcement action for these ordinances. The emphasis is mine.
It appears deputies and police will prevent soliciting on the Alliant Energy property, but not outside of it.
Madison has not had a gun turn-in event in many years. Elise at the Sheriff’s department said she could not remember one in the eighteen years she had been there. In 2014, there was a similar event in Milwaukee. Some nice guns were purchased by private buyers.
Eighteen years of inherited guns may yield large numbers of good guns to be turned in to be destroyed.
About Dean Weingarten:
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
Since a “ghost gun” is a home made firearm without any traceable serial number it seems a piece of pipe taped to a 2×4 “stock” and a spring loaded nail passing through a rear cap for a firing pin would qualify. Should be able to buy enough pieces at Home Depot to make the limit of four guns for about $20, for a return of investment of $780. Road trip!
A gun with the serial number ground off is considered to be a ghost gun too, that is how ATF gets unrealistic numbers for the amount of ghost guns used in crimes.
There are instructions all over the internet. These are some of the simplest, and are in writing.
https://manualzz.com/doc/8624040/the-four-winds-shotgun
Warning: A shotgun has to be at least 26 inches over all length, and the barrel needs to be at least 18 inches long to be legal under NFA requirements.
I received an Email selling used products from LEO . Don’t recall who was selling . Deleted it or I would give better info .What caught my eye was used Rem 870 barrels …14 1/2 inches long with open sights !!! Buyer Beware ! (I could see that being a sting op)
Wouldn’t put anything past batfe being behind it .
Oldvet,you can bank on it.
Oldvet,I’ve said this many times and it just can’t be said too much, ABOLISH ATF,RESCIND NFA !
Oldvet,that sounds just like something them ATF scumbags would try and pull to turn you into a felon. Stay as far away as possible from all federal LE agencies,esp. ATF.
Sweet.
24.4 million! Wow! I am sure therefore, that if the Modern Sporting Rifle was as dangerous as they claim, then there would be no time left for even that pretty weather person to tell me incorrectly what the weather will be like when I step outside. 24.4 million! Perhaps many more too! Wow! It sure would be great if they all voted.
In argument, Madison Wisconsin is the bastion of the Leftist, Marxist, DemoRat regime in the state, not the center of deer hunting, or any legal hunting (except humans) for that matter!
Socialism was started in Madison in this country, of course not wanting to be out done, Chicago is the home base for communist party in the USA. Very familiar with both, exactly why I now reside in Texas
$250 for an Assault Rifle, what about the other $1000-$2000?
If you don’t want your AR anymore, sell it for what it’s worth in a private sale.
The economy sucks right now, will they allow you to right off the thousand dollar loss on the value of the gun? Ridiculous.
Buyback? I don’t ever recall anybody buying any firearm from any sheriff or any government.
Some Sacramento Kommiefornia sheriffs went to jail for selling guns they took from crime scenes that they didn’t report and selling them to felons.
and departments sell their old stuff to buy new
What a F-ing JOKE !!!!
First of all, here are NO “assault rifles” out there.
Second, NO WEAPON should ever be given up to the GOVTHUGS !
Third, $250.00 for an MSR…. NOT !
Good luck bargain shoppers! Hope you get some great pieces and keep them from the smelter.
Double the price offered by the steppers, and save some guns from the junk heap! Get these guns off the streets; ADOPT A GUN TODAY!
The price for “ghost guns” is $200, not $250.
Mea culpa.
That’s cool, so I can take my 50 dollar 22lr, grind out the serial number and it becomes a ghost gun and get 200 bucks for it using their own rules and definitions of a ghost gun against them. LOL
Do not expect them to follow their own “rules” . It was clear, in the conversation with Elise at the Dane County Sheriff Office, officers on the scene will have considerable discretion about the definitions and rules…
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C’mon Man we know slow Joe with his 33% (truth be more to 3%) approval rating will get these Democrats elected again. lol
There is no difference between Republican and Democratic “LEADERSHIP”. They ALL want to be dicktakers.
Yes, RINOs & Dems ARE the Uniparty!
@HB,in my opinion the larger threat to our Republic is the RINO coward scum. They all need their necks stretched.
I’m willing to be an equal-opportunity physical remover to both communists and their quislings. All I lack is a helicopter pilot!!
I’m your huckleberry. Helo pilot here.
You just became my best friend!!!
That’s so sweet! I like the “Dirty War” Short Bus too. Oops. Your static line wasn’t connected. My bad.
Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
Commiecrats DGAF about elections anymore now that they’ve proven they can rig more than the Nov. 2020 election and get away with it. It will ultimately come down to a contest of arms in either a 2nd revolution or civil war (likely both at once). As long as there are RINOs willing to betray We The People to sup at the table with the communists, we will not peacefully be able to restore constitutional governance. I hope I’m wrong, but the available intel suggests otherwise! THIS IS WHY THEY WANT TO TAKE YOUR GUNS!