New York’s Ammunition Background Check System is a Hot Mess

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If you want to buy a box of shotgun shells or even .22 LR anywhere in New York state, be prepared for a bevy of personal questions, a background check that includes a $2.50 fee, and a long wait.

A new state law went into effect last week, which requires ammunition retailers – who must all be licensed by the state – to conduct background checks through the State Police of all ammunition purchasers. The law also requires retailers to create and maintain a database of the purchasers’ personal information as well as a list of exactly what they bought, to include the number of rounds.

Mike Mayhood, owner of Mayhood’s Sporting Goods in Norwich, New York, said the new system is fraught with problems – procedural and constitutional – and will likely put many ammunition retailers out of business.

“We lose money on every box of ammo we sell because of the time involved,” Mayhood said last week. “I’ve never seen things so difficult. It’s not going to get easier. We’re going to have to raise our prices. We know it’s all intentional.”

It can take Mayhood and his employees up to 15 minutes just to enter the information required by State Police into their computer, and then there are delays. His longest was 22 hours. Some customers become irate, Mayhood said.

“Two guys cancelled their order because of the delays and wanted their information taken off the state registry,” Mayhood said. “I called the State Police, but they said there was no way to remove their info. The customers left mad, but it’s not our fault.”

The information required of the purchaser includes:

  • Name
  • Street Address
  • City
  • State
  • Zip code
  • County/Parish/Borough
  • Reside in city limits?
  • Contact info (confirmed email and primary phone)
  • Country of citizenship
  • Government ID
  • Is the purchaser an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?
  • Social Security Number or UPIN
  • Driver’s license number
  • Place of birth (Country, state and city)
  • Occupation

The information required of the ammunition they purchase includes:

  • Manufacturer
  • Caliber
  • Grain
  • Amount of ammunition being purchased (number of rounds)
  • Ammunition manufacturer’s number (lot number, serial number of other distinguishing number).

That state law also requires State Police to conduct “periodic” onsite inspections of ammunition and firearm retailers.

Mayhood and his customers are under no illusion of the government’s true intent by requiring so much information.

“New York is creating a gun registry,” he said. “And the rumor going around is that the state is going to institute limits on the amount of ammunition you can buy.”

Norwich is prime hunting land, Mayhood said. Deer and turkey abound. He’d like to quit selling ammunition but knows he can’t.

“I’m the only place within hours where you can buy guns and ammo, but I don’t want to sell ammo under these new rules,” he said. “It doesn’t feel right. It feels like a violation of everything.”

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About Lee Williams

Lee Williams, who is also known as “The Gun Writer,” is the chief editor of the Second Amendment Foundation’s Investigative Journalism Project. Until recently, he was also an editor for a daily newspaper in Florida. Before becoming an editor, Lee was an investigative reporter at newspapers in three states and a U.S. Territory. Before becoming a journalist, he worked as a police officer. Before becoming a cop, Lee served in the Army. He’s earned more than a dozen national journalism awards as a reporter, and three medals of valor as a cop. Lee is an avid tactical shooter.

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Darkman

It’s time New Yorker’s stand up and take the Declaration of independence seriously, otherwise…You deserve the Tyrants and Tyranny…You allow.

Montana454Casull

When Montana had only 3.2 % beer my parents drove to Idaho and bought 5 % Coors beer by the pallet . A truck load of ammo from a neighboring state seams to be a viable solution to New Yorks over reaching tyranny.

Alan in NH

Are they going to put a tax stamp on every NY cartridge like they put on a liquor bottle? How will they know where that box of ammo came from? And why does anyone in NY put up with this crap? Of course the answer is that the clowns in NYCity make the rules for all the rest of the state.

Wass

If NYS implements a limit on ammo purchases, it ought to be a last straw. Driving to Pennsylvania is the only immediate remedy.

gregs

who would have thought this ny law would be implemented or functioning well after it went into effect? virtually anyone who is able to think. how many state officers are manning the phones to approve/deny this law? this is par for the course by a state administration that does not think the people have freedom in their state.
hopefully they live near the border and can go to another state that doesn’t have this unconstitutional “law” in its statutes.
just another way to infringe upon law-abiding citizens Second Amendment.

Robert B Young, MD

We’re trying here in NYS, Lee. Wish our law enforcement (State Police up to AG) had the attitude and the stones to act like New Mexico’s.

falcon69

The historical evidence is overwhelming about the consequences of attempting to ban something that people have a strong desire for. The additional side effects are a deepening lack of respect for the law and government, plus developing work-arounds and inevitable black markets tend to pull in other items and activities.

Boz

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson would not have tolerated this garbage. They would know what to do. So would every Patriot.