Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing

Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing
Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- An Illinois technocrat has demonstrated the Progressive attitude about the Constitution and the Second Amendment. Representative Bill Foster has a PhD in Physics from Harvard. He was raised and earned his Bachelor degree in ultra-liberal Madison, Wisconsin.  In his view, the Constitution is a document that can be re-interpreted to mean different things every few years. That is true in a sense. Amendments to the Constitution can be put forward and passed any time. It is clear a constitutional amendment is not what Representative Foster is talking about. From chicagotribune.com:

Flanked by two area high school students, a pediatrician and the mother of a gun violence victim, U.S. Rep. Bill Foster told a community forum audience Monday the Second Amendment should be up for reinterpretation as new generations come into power.

“It always has been up for reinterpretation,” Foster, D-Naperville, said during an event focused on gun violence. “The technology changes, and the weapons thought to be too dangerous to be in private hands change. A civil war cannon is frankly much less dangerous than weapons we are allowed to carry on the streets in many of the states and cities in our country today. This is something where technology changes and public attitude changes and both are important in each of the generations.”

What does “reinterpretation” mean? It means you take the same words in the Constitution, and apply a different meaning to them. If you can do that, the Constitution only means what you want it to mean, when you want it to mean it. If Representative Foster means that legislators, such as himself, should change the meaning of the Constitution when they wish it, then Constitutional limits on government power mean nothing. Much of the purpose of the Constitution was to limit government power, to provide stability, to prevent rapid, radical change in the laws.

The Representative mentions technology changes and public attitudes. But technology changes apply to the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, and most of the Bill of rights. Should we give the legislature the power to change most of the Bill of Rights at will?

The Constitution is designed as a structure of government to moderate and delay change so as to prevent hurried legislation in response to emotional public reactions.

In short, Representative Foster is talking about scrapping the Constitution and ruling by legislative fiat. That has always been the Progressive way.  From heritage.org, a quote from Charles Merriam, an early, leading Progressive political scientist:

The individualistic ideas of the “natural right” school of political theory, endorsed in the Revolution, are discredited and repudiated…. The origin of the state is regarded, not as the result of a deliberate agreement among men, but as the result of historical development, instinctive rather than conscious; and rights are considered to have their source not in nature, but in law.

Progressives believe that experts should rule society, that the “average man” is incapable of knowing their own best interest. Progressives believe there is no absolute right and wrong. Right and wrong are defined by Progressives and their experts at any particular time.

Progressives see the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as obstacles to be overcome, not pillars of American society that must be defended.

Progressives generally view the State as god, or at least the manifestation of God on earth. Right is anything that advances Progressivism. Wrong is anything that hinders the Progressive agenda.

President Wilson, one of the political foundational Progressives, is attributed as believing that “limits on government power should be abolished”

Representative Foster is an iconic technocrat. After working as a government scientist for his career, he was able to win a seat in the House of Representatives. He does not believe in natural law. He does not take his oath of office seriously. No Progressive does. To Progressives, oaths, natural law, the Constitution, are all outdated concepts to be placed in the dustbin of history in order to achieve power. Setting aside the Constitutional questions, Foster ignores facts, and lies to advance his agenda.

Foster is a scientist. He understands how to lie with statistics. His prowess at doing so is shown below:

“I doubt that’s the most effective way to control gun violence,” Foster said. “The most accurate predictor of the rate of gun homicides, if you look at the statistics, is actually the number of guns per person in the state or in the community.”

That is an irrelevant conclusion. “Gun violence” is a propaganda term. It is not germane to the argument about the effectiveness of legislation.  It does not matter to a victim if they die from a gunshot, or because they did not have a gun to defend themselves. If they die from a club, or a knife, or a bombing, they are still dead. If a country institutes restrictive gun legislation, and the homicide rate increases, the legislation is a failure for its stated purpose. It is irrelevant if the number deaths inflicted with guns goes down. It is the total, unjustified homicide rate that matters. John Lott says that every country that instituted gun bans saw increases in the homicide rate. From crimeresearch.org:

One thing gun control advocates such as Vox would never mention is that every single time that guns are banned — either all guns or all handguns — homicide/murder rates rise. This is a remarkable fact.

It would be unsurprising that if there are more guns, there are more gun homicides. If there are more cars, there are more car accidents. If there are more hospitals, more people die in hospitals.

What is surprising is that as the number of guns has increased in the United States over the last 30 years, the rate of gun homicides and gun accidents has decreased dramatically. Foster may not know this. Progressives are notoriously good at ignoring facts. As a scientist, he should know it. As a Progressive, it is “crimethink” as described in the novel, 1984. That fact contradicts his assertions, even about “gun homicides”.

 That fact contradicts his assertion, even about only "gun homicides".
That fact contradicts his assertion, even about only “gun homicides”.

Anyone can find “experts” to show statistics that agree with their position. That is the foundational weakness of Progressivism. Choose your expert, and you get the policies you want.

Representative Foster does not think you are smart enough to rule yourself. He does not think you will recognize his use of statistics to lie, or he would use other methods.

Improved technological communications allow everyone to contrast competing expert opinions and construct their own. That technology is changing all the Progressive assumptions about their ability to “construct consent” and rule as technological elites.

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About Dean WeingartenDean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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GoFigure

So this person taking an official position in our government lied when he was sworn in? Common conduct for a Trojan Horse?

Lord-Pi-314

@WB, Nov. 24….what a synchnocristic statement, I just watched “The Mechanic” starring Charles Bronson. We live in a very dangerous world where there are no guarantees. And invisible figures move in the shadows.

Lord-Pi-314

And tonight I watched a round table of retired intelligence operatives in an interview, and One said that they need to hire 3 regiments of Samurai for one night to put an end to the problem.

Paul Simon

“An unarmed man, is an enslaved man!” “A disarmed man, is a conquered man!’ “I shall not be enslaved or conquered!”
Sic Semper Tyrannis !

Donald L. Cline

This is why Robert A. Heinlein observed that a Ph.D. stood for “Piled higher and Deeper.”

Alan

I do not know if the attribution is correct. It is however, very much to and on point.

Michael A. Rosado Jr

Bill foster most believe that the Bible should also be change because of the changes that man and the court’s have made from marriage to sexuality or simply because its the 21 first century according to Obama, comparing slavery and their freedom to homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

Ross Kardon

There are many different issues I respectfully disagree with President Trump about. But, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster is a traitor to the U.S.A. for saying our U.S. Constitution means nothing! Bill Foster should be permanently deported to a miserable, terrible country such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Venezuela, or North Korea, so he gets a taste of his own medicine!

RotaryConnected

I do believe that if you dial up 630-310-6588, a number in Downers Grove, Illinois, you can leave Rep. Foster a voice mail message. He might even answer the phone himself, and you can ask him exactly what he means by that. Maybe he can expound on that statement and let you in on how many others of his Progressive Clique feel that way also. That will give us an idea of how big an enema our government needs.

yogiman

If he doesn’t take the oath seriously, why does he take it?

JoeUSooner

He takes the oath merely in order to get into office in the first place.

Remember, he’s a leftist (liberal, socialist, progressive – whatever they call themselves this month). Neither 1) “truthfulness” nor 2) “the ‘character’ necessary to KEEP an oath” is ever a significant factor [or even a minor one] in achieving liberal goals… for publicity/public relations purposes, liberals find it convenient when either of those two factors can, by sheer lucky happenstance/coincidence, occur publicly – but it is never necessary to the socialist agenda.

Mark Duncan

His comment regarding the Civil War Cannon is rather self-defeating, to his argument. At the time, a 3-inch Cannon was a devastating weapon. Private citizens can own them. The Gatling gun came along in the mid-to-late 19th century. An incredibly devastating weapon for its time. Free to be owned by private citizens.

Ron Martin

The goal of the Progressive is to change the government of this country from a Capitalist Representative Republic to a Socialist/Communist Government! A form of government noted for its’ cruelty, no freedom or liberty and a life of misery! This type of government is desired by people who want Power over the People! Like the writer states, they don’t think we are capable of deciding how we live our lives and want to force us to live it their way! Basically they are the Masters and the People are the Slaves! The removal of Freedom will never happen in this… Read more »

LHTwist

If one Constitutional Amendment is open for re-interpretation, then they all are. That being the case, I don’t believe anyone, particularly politicians, should have the right to the speak against anything written before their birth. Speaking from a technological perspective, this jack wagon has no idea what was on the framer’s minds since he wasn’t present at the time. His 1st Amendment rights should be limited to only that which has occurred or been written during his lifetime.
But I’m sure he was talking about re-interpreting only those portions of our government which impede his agenda.

Jim Macklin

Certainly this slug should not be elected or re-elected. But as for treason, it isn’t. Treason has a particular defoinition.
What he has done is commit perjury or making a false statement under oath.
He should be impeached and forfeit and pension, salary or retirement.
But will the Chicago Democrat Machine allow such action?
Keep it on the public mind and don’t let him get re-elected. That means that he needs to be acurrately described as a slug in the local TV and newspaper.

Lord-Pi-314

The Constitutional definition of TREASON has to do with “waging war” against theUS. “War” does not necessarily mean picking up a gun and shooting at soldiers. We have the “War on Poverty” and “The War on Drugs” that have both been going on for decades, and no shots have been fired. What they are doing is a “War on the 2A” and a “War On The Constitution”. The more they are successful, the more danger they expose US citizens to. Imagine if they manage to get America disarmed, and future caravans continue to flood our nation, similar to what happened… Read more »

david amato

Not that far away

Lord-Pi-314

For the record, I do not condone violence in any way, shape, or form. But in some cases you would be hard pressed to see any tears fall from my eyes. And all executions for TREASON must come only after a fair and speedy trial, a proper tar and feathering, and a bumpy rail ride down to the hanging tree. Afterwards, we shall all pray for their immortal soul, just in case there is the slightest chance to save them.

Wild Bill

@LP314, Well, said, but outlines a lot of work. Just for the record that any federal agency might be keeping, I do not condone auto accidents, where corrupt betrayers of the Constitution and American people are run over by innocent motorists! Of course that requires careful intel gathering.

Ron Adams

He needs to be removed from office as a traitor

Richard Arnone.

We are a nation of laws and our Constitution codifies the ideals and the laws that our Founders, representatives from each State, agreed to, in order to form a Union. In their wisdom, they knew the future would bring changes they could not foresee so they set up the amendment process codifying how changes could be made with the majority of States agreeing to the changes. Mr. Foster, who has a hidden agenda, would like to throw away the whole process with its checks and balances and its slow process necessary for major change because that’s the only way his… Read more »

Tom Ford

It’s called Anti-Social Narcissism; he’s an example of what Jung meant by people born without a moral compass; I want – I want – I want, and nothing else matters.

Donald L. Cline

People like him are also the very reason the Constitution recognizes our inherent right to keep and bear arms.

Alan

Given the lack of attention from constituents thatis seemingly involved here, people get what they deserve might be a most appropriate observation.

George Murphy

He took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. He obviously lied to the US Congress and should be prosecuted and sent to jail. What the hell is going on in this country to let these charlatans walk the streets as free men.

Mark

Wizz on you progressive booger eating morons.

Mark Farrell

.
Send him to prison for breaking his oath.
It’s treasonous to say the least.

Senate and Congressional members are sworn to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same”

This bastard is a liar and a fraud.
This man is a criminal.
Treat him as such.

Ed Miller

we wish you an aneurysm
we wish you an aneurysm
we wish you an aneurysm
and a slow re-cov-ree!

Lord-Pi-314

We wish him a necktie
After his fair trial.
May it ever fit so snugly
And the rest of us will smile.

mepiii

More dangerous than a Civil War cannon? I think the the Representative needs to reread his civil war history. Oh that’s – right history is open to reinterpretation every few years as well

Ric Smith

The perfesser can have his choice of handgun and I’ll use a 12 pounder with a double charge of canister – at 100 yards and on the count of 3 we’ll shoot it out. A true test that theory on how much more dangerous that modern weapon is in comparison to a civil war cannon.

(Would it be bad form to take a mega insurance policy out on him?)

Lord-Pi-314

@Ric Beal….You seem to be from the Pepsi generation since you got fizzzzz for brains. If you don’t know what the definition of “is” is, it is because you got fizzzzyyy mush for brains, and the same goes for the word “infringe”. Furthermore, what any SCOTUS says about anything in their “Judicial Review” is merely their opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. My bet to you sir, is that the 2A as it “is” and has been for all these hundreds of years, will still “be” long after any SCOTUS has departed this realm. And to insure… Read more »

hello imbeciles

You’re already on a list, rectum. And before too long, you’ll be neighbors with your Fuhrer, in federal prison. Maybe you can shake his tiny hand. You don’t frighten anyone. You are a joke, a laughing stock. A national embarrassment. Is there a mole on your labia, little girl?

Ric Beal

You make it sound like it is sacred, like the Quran. Are you with ISIS/Daesh? Or just al-Qaeda? You are just too stupid to be more than an annoyance.

Lord-Pi-314

Oh gosh, we have a real sicko trolling us here now. Better take your meds, RB.

Ric Beal

Whatever you say, Gaylord.

Lord-Pi-314

Why don’t you go away until you get older. It has dawned on me that you are a sophomoric freshman, probably from a foreign country, still very wet behind the ears. Besides, anyone in favor of depriving Americans of their Second Ammendment Rights, and then calls for their incarceration for being patriots in a Federal Prison, can only be a half baked whelp who listens to their Marxist parents & teachers. Like the coached kid, Hogg.

George Murphy

Where do you live Ricky? Such a big mouth and so brave! You are just another liberal pussy!

Ric Beal

Your opinions, and those of anyone and everyone else, on any subject, including legal or otherwise, are opinions. Shit. When a majority opinion is handed down after adjudication of the issue before the Supreme Court, it becomes law. Case Law, and precedent, if legal precedent is made by the disposition of the instant case. There is Res judicata and collateral estoppel to be considered that preventing a matter being relitigated to death. In point of fact, your melodramatic and ominous boasts about what you’ll do at the “big showdown” are lines from a really bad movie script with Dolph Lundgren.… Read more »

Ric BeallHello morons

Dean Weingarten is a dead ringer for Wade Gustafson. The clown Steve Buscemi gutshot on the roof of the parking garage in Fargo. What he probably doesn’t understand, nor any other imbecile opening his or her mouth to demonstrate how ignant he or she is, the concept of Judicial Review. The constitution says whatever the SCOTUS says it says.They have the sole power of Judicial Review. What you idiots, (and that now includes Trump, according to Gen Kelly), will never realize or understand is how that came to be. It’s not in the constitution, a document that is vague and… Read more »

Newsflash for the Ric BeallHello morons: The SCOTUS does not enjoy the status of All Supreme Leader, and like all other government agencies, it is bound by the plain English text of the United States Constitution. And contrary to your ignorant and asinine screed, the SCOTUS does not have “the sole power of Judicial Review.” The sovereign nation-States that created the federal government, including the SCOTUS, and gave it the only lawful authority it has, has a superior power of Judicial Review over any ruling not Pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution is not vague and ambiguous by… Read more »

George Murphy

He is a traitor to the oath he took. He should pay the highest price that the law allows. Why the Hell don’t we hear that the US Justice Dept. is bringing indictments against him? Maybe it is time for Henry Bowman to come out of retirement.

Alan

Just curious as to the following. The gentleman took an oath to “support, uphold and defend the constitution” which he later discerned “means nothing”. Were those his thoughts at the time he took the above referenced oath? If they were, what sort of cheap liar does that make him? Clarification sought.

JoeUSooner

“Liar” is perfectly applicable, but he is never cheap… he has been highly paid (bribed) for every lying word that comes out of his worthless mouth.

“Cheap” is a real-time descriptor of his conduct, his morals, his ethics, and his very soul… he is a total waste of human skin.

In a just world, he would already have been tried as a “domestic enemy” of this Constitutional Republic, convicted, and permanently removed from the human gene pool.

WTF

I can’t seem to find where Foster says the constitution “means nothing.” Does anyone else have this problem? Maybe Weingarten is “reinterpreting” Foster’s words. Or just putting words in his mouth.

George Murphy

I think what you are trying to say is that the people in his district should get this fool out of office as soon as possible by any lawful means necessary. If there ever was an elected official that needed to be made an example of by being held accountable for his words and actions, it is this guy! His place is not among free men!

Ozark Muleskinner

Rust, rot and evil never sleep. Stay strong and vigilant; the tree of Liberty will need to be refreshed yet again, it’s not a question of if…just when.

James Higginbotham

I AGREE.
and it’s LONG OVER DUE.

Ric BeallWTF

Some guy named Jefferson once wrote: “I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace… Read more »

Sean Will Gary Beller

I am inclined to believe the constitutional government created through the founding fathers would have been successful if it had one rule, only unanimous change, with all 13 amendments including “Titles” of “Nobility and Honor”! intact! Titles of nobility and honor is a tool used to make: 1. People unequal exempting rulers/government from accountability for damages 2. An arch treasurer! President Lincoln was the worst kind of tyrant America has ever had in a position of authority! “Titles” of “Nobility and Honor” was ratified it only needed 12 states to ratify at the time it was sent to the states… Read more »

Jim Macklin

Very imaginative. What planet do you come from.. I’ve looked and can’t find any “right to slavery.” Can you try writing sentences and citing some sources?

Wild Bill

, I have five buck that says you will never straighten out SWGB.

George Murphy

Representative Foster should be escorted to the Mexican border and instructed to never return to the United States. His failure to uphold the Constitution should have consequences. He is a traitor. Mamas don’t let your babies grow up to go to Harvard!!

Alan

How about voting this clown out of office.

Fred Marsico

Need to restore the Constitution to original intent and enforce it.

http://www.unitedwestand2017.com/2012/11/restore-the-title-of-nobility-amendment/

Charlie

Amen!

Constitutionalist

Ric

You are a monarchist, not a republican, not that you understand what either term means. Nor are you ever to be a member of the nobility you seem to want to disinter.

WTF

You are already on a list. Keep talking. U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2383 18 U.S. Code § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection US Code Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L.… Read more »

Alan

The Constitution is a contract an agreement between the people and the government. There is a stated proceedure for making changes, it’s called amending, that proceedure has been successful 26 or 27 times. If one wishes to change the constitution, follow the established proceedure. As to the gentleman’s idea, essentially disregard the constitution, how about the following. He is an elected official who undertook an oath to uphold, support and defend the constitution. He seemingly doesn’t take his oath of office especially seriously. Re that, I wonder as to the following. How might he react to the stopping of his… Read more »

Wild Bill

, Actually the founders, most lawyers, talked in trust law terms. I believe that they intended more of a trust than a contract. Note that the sovereign authority that is in the people is allowed to the government, not for the government’s benefit, but rather for the government to act in the best interest of the people. Other than that minor point, I can not disagree with you.

snuffyTN

The second amendment also included “protection from an oppressive government”. Come and take ’em.

Ric

Where in the Second Amendment is that? I can’t seem to find it and shame on President Washington for crushing two rebellions, personally. At the head of the militia. Shays and the Whiskey Rebellion. Learn some history. That’s an order, militia man.

JoeUSooner

@Ric, YOU read some history!

Our founding fathers explicitly explained a great deal in the Federalist Papers… including their specific thoughts and intentions regarding the 2nd Amendment.

WTF

Really? My Ph. D. says I have. Any schoolboy has read The Federalist Papers. Get back to me when you’ve spent 30 years poring over Madison’s notes on the convention and every single piece of personal correspondence the framers and founders wrote and received from each other, and others, until their deaths.

George Murphy

If Universities gave post graduate degrees in arrogance, I can understand where you got yours. WTF side are you on by the way and why should I care?

JoeUSooner

Nice try… (won’t work, but it WAS a nice try!)

Is that the “Politically honed Diatribe” one? Or the “Piled high and Deep” one? I have both… and neither is worth a tinker’s damn out here in the Newtonian Universe (the “real world”) where humans actually exist.

Hello, morons

You guys keep cracking me up. Newtonian universe? Really? The Newtonian model was discarded over 100 years ago. It did outlive Newton. No wonder physicists confuse you. Do you wear grass skirts and loincloths or have you graduated to pantaloons yet. Say hello to the witch doctor for me. You’re all going to meekly submit or hang in any case.

Jennifer

These politicians seem to forget they work for the PEOPLE! They also seem to forget they took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and that includes the 2nd Amendment! These traitors to our rights need to be booted!

Laddyboy

This is why We the People MUST get out and beat-the-bush to get Constitutionalists out to vote for Representatives who will HONOR their OATH of OFFICE.

Wild Bill

@Jenn and Laddyb, You are both correct. This next election will be critical to draining the swamp and breaking the strangle hold on We the People. The dnc wants to impeach Trump out of office, but can not do it unless they win big in November. Our part of draining the swamp will be voting out socialists, party hacks, and anti-Second Amendment politicians. Bring your whole family to vote, and tell them in no uncertain terms who to vote for.

Alan

The fact that the same politicians get reelected does not remind the politicians you mention of the errors of f their ways.

Jim Macklin

Paul Ryan retiring and maybe 2 dozen other Republicans. Hopefully they are the RINOS and te voters will be smart enough to elect staunch conservative, Republican to the House and Senate and we can finally get something done.
I look forward the chuckie schumer being in a powerless minority, unable to block pro Second Amendment judges and Justices, legislation and tax cuts and pro USA bills of all sorts.

WE need to start campaigning now, only 6 months to save America and the Constitution./

Wild Bill

@JM, On target again! I think that it is 41 repub seats and 34 dnc seats. And I can not think of any previous president that ever gave me a cut in federal income taxes.

Walter Myers

We must do more than campaign. We must campaign for a person that is honest, knowledgeable and blessed with integrity. We must begin by thoroughly vetting the candidate. This questionnaire might help. Dear candidate/Representative/Senator ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬______________________________. Do you agree: 1 The purpose of government is to secure people’s unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty and an opportunity for Happiness as stated in the Declaration of Independence? Yes no 2 To be lawful government must comply with the principles and policies set forth in our Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights when interpreted in the spirit of providing American’s life, liberty,… Read more »

LHTwist

“I doubt that’s the most effective way to control gun violence,” Foster said. “The most accurate predictor of the rate of gun homicides, if you look at the statistics, is actually the number of guns per person in the state or in the community.”

So we’re to believe that the pull to commit murder increases with each firearm purchased within any given community? How did we ever make it through the months immediately before a obama took office?

JoeUSooner

Hmmmm… technically, while this cuckoo-clock’s conclusion is not accurate, his data may be. By analogy, the most accurate predictor of the rate of automobile accidents really IS the number of cars in the community. Obviously, there are far more accidents in a large city than in a small rural town… because that’s where cars ARE. No car accidents occur on isolated farmland, where there are no cars in the first place. Similarly, most drowning accidents occur where bodies of water exist… drownings are uncommon in the middle of a desert. And hurricanes destroy coastlines, because that is where hurricanes ARE…… Read more »

2WarAbnVet

How can it be that firearms are “most prevalent” in urban areas? These are the very places where gun ownership is most closely regulated.
(tongue firmly in cheek)

JoeUSooner

Good post!! I laughed so hard I actually BIT my tongue LOL

WTF

Population density. Demographics, even businessmen can grasp this.

vab

The difference between cars and guns is that cars are being operated continually, as when someone is driving and operating the vehicle 100% of the time–hands on the wheel (we hope!) and feet on one pedal or another. Guns, however, are not being operated 100% of the time, even when being carried. The only time the gun is operated is when it’s in the hand. When in the holster, safe, door, glove box, etc, it is not being operated. Hence the reason why the number of cars pretty much tracks with the number of car crashes, but the number of… Read more »

gary

your comparison between use of a gun and car is absolutely ridiculous. car %100 of the time but a gun is not. so you are saying if I am sitting in car parked in the driveway is 100% yet a gun holstered is not?? do you not see the fallacy of your logic??

vab

Use a little common sense. How many people sit in their cars for hours while the car is parked with the engine shut off? Most intelligent people understand that the vast majority of the time, like 99.9% of the time, when drivers are in their car, they are actively operating the vehicle (or you can say “machine”). Not so with guns. The vast majority of the time, the hands are not on the weapon, therefore they are not actively operating the weapon (machine).

G

Time to reinstate dueling as a legal means of draining the swamp.

revjen45

Second the motion.
Start 100 yds with handguns and may the best man win.

Ric

What’s really ironic, to the point of self-parody, is that you both think code duello ever ended or needs to be brought back.

George Murphy

Ricky, you run along now ….. hear?

Ric

Weak as expected from the complete imbeciles on parade here.

kal

I must ask the ever so basic question. Is there really such a thing as “gun violence”? I’m so sick and tired of this stupid illogical catch phrase! It was invented by anti 2a socialists to demonize firearms. It has caught on so much that even pro 2a organizations use it! Please stop using this redundant phrase people. Use terms like shooting(s) because its the ACT of shooting people that is bad (non defensive), NOT the gun! PEOPLE ARE VIOLENT, not guns. Obviously in today’s world, common sense and logic will not be tolerated. Carry on and carry always.

Wild Bill

@kal, the first use of the term was by Joesef Goebbels, to pave the way for Hitler’s disarmament of the German people. I think, that alone, explains a lot.

kal

Wow Wild Bill, it’s wonderful people in our country have not forgotten this phrase in that many elected govt’ official’s and other money powerful people keep it going. (and many Americans keep voting for them…) I assume this fantastic sentiment is being “taught” (indoctrinated) in most all tax payer funded schools, at least from what it appears lately!

Michael Spivey

That is of course WHY one takes a solemn oath to support and defend it, because it means nothing.

Dave Smith

Since this clown is speaking about technological changes lets use that logic to question his premise. if technological advances are a reason to reinterpret the 2nd Amendment, then should the Internet, 24/7 media access and thousands of other technological advances in communication be a reason to reinterpret the 1st Amendment? New surveillance technology could be considered a good reason to reinterpret the 4th Amendment. This could go on and on but it will always be an exercise in futility because the Bill of Rights were created for all men for all time, no exceptions for technological advances or any other… Read more »

Henry

More to the point, where does this guy live? Because I know a guy with a Civil War cannon, and I loves me a teaching moment.

Susan Whitten

Sadly, he lives in my hometown. We are a mostly affluent suburb of Chicago. There is little crime here, and we used to be a conservative area. Due to fantastic city planning, we became a great place to raise a family. As usually happens the leftists, wanting to escape the agendas they have instituted in the city, move to the suburbs and start to impose their leftism on wherever they live. The original residents become “the others” as they tear down the houses and build their McMansions shoved up next to each other. Last year they tried to make us… Read more »

Alan

Susan:

Have you tried the following “dumb question” addressed to the leftists you mentioned. Given that the situations you all played a role in the creation of are do great, they are, aren’t they, how come you all abandoned the vibrant city of Chicago, opting for the dull dreariness of the conservative suburbs? Might it be that the songs you all sing don’t quite ring true when applied to yourselves, or might it simply be a case of Do As We Say, Not As We Do?

Tom Mix

Whoever decided to call these leftists “progressives” must be the same guy who named “near beer”… he was a poor judge of distance.
To apply the term progressive to the fascist left is a gross misnomer. There is nothing about there agenda that results in progress. Rather it promotes regression on every front by restricting the rights of individuals, restricting free speech so that only the speech from the left is heard, and by imposing increasingly restrictive laws.
This congressman is an idiot.

Mike

It is amazing that somebody who is clearly very intelligent in some respects can be so wholly and completely stupid. THIS is the disease that is liberalism. It is also an inherent weakness with our system. It is far too difficult to remove the truly corrupt, the truly incompetent, and those that clearly demonstrate an unwillingness to uphold and defend the Constitution. This man should be removed from office immediately…and tarred and feathered.

Miles

He’s not stupid Mike. He’s a progressive spouting his propaganda, knowing that ignorant, ill-educated people will suck up the progressive agenda like a dry sponge.

bill knight

I’m ready to re-interpretate The Second Amendment as originally written and intended. The People shall Keep(own) and Bear(carry) arms commensurate with existing militaries, so as to prevent usurpation of our Rights by either Foreign or Domestic Enemies of our Liberties!

Denton Marken

This jerk is either dishonest or never read Samuel Adams’ quote “THE CONSTITUTION SHALL NEVER BE CONSTRUED TO PREVENT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES WHO ARE PEACEABLE CITIZENS FROM KEEPING THEIR OWN ARMS” – SAMUEL ADAMS, 1788

eaglesnester

U get the government U deserve

Bill in IL

No, I don’t. Stop posting that stupid, insipid, worn out phrase.

JoeUSooner

We get the government that the MAJORITY of (actual) voters demand. The quality of that government is determined by whether that specific voting majority is liberal or conservative. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.

JoeUSooner

Quite true! As I recall, Comrade Stalin appreciated that line of thinking.

Chuck Schulte

(We get the government that the MAJORITY of actual voters demand.) THAT IS WHY THE FOUNDING FATHERS ESTABLISHED THIS COUNTRY AS A REPUBLIC – In a republic, a constitution or charter of rights protects certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government, even if it has been elected by a majority of voters – BUT- In a “pure democracy,” the majority is not restrained in this way and can impose its will on the minority. It can strip the minority of any rights that the democracy thinks are not allowed. They do not have to follow the… Read more »

REM1875

We have long been at war with the left including shots fired (usually by them) ….and we are not winning. The war of words and the chipping away of our rights……. think of what buying a gun was like before 1990 ….compare that to today…. their allies in the media………my mistakes …. their allies THE media …. still have a lot of power and they have a narrative to spin ……

James Higginbotham

here is the THING. our Constitution was WRITTEN IN STONE. and the FIRST 10 BILLS OF RIGHTS, WERE TELLING THE FEDERAL GOVT THOSE WERE NOT TO BE INFRINGED UPON, BECAUSE THEY ARE BASIC UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, MEANING COMING FROM GOD. AND ARE TO BE PROTECTED BUT THE CONSTITUTION. AND ALL REPRESENTATIVES HAVE TO TAKE AN OATH TO SAID CONSTITUTION,SO IF THEY VIOLATE THAT OATH, THEN IT’S THEY WHO ARE THE CRIMINAL AND TRAITOR NOT WE THE PEOPLE. AND IF THEY TRY AND PASS ANY LAW TO BAN THE, THAT’S CALLED AN EX POST FACTO LAW, AND OF ITSELF IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND… Read more »

Steven, Wasilla, Alaska

It’s our responsibility as American Citizens to insure that those who are elected to positions of power respect and uphold the Laws, Rules, Regulations, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The over whelming forces of the left and their media cabal have a very large advantage over the average American Citizen. The onslaught of lies and dishonest left actions, and talking points leveled daily at the American Citizens are relentless. Supported by turn coat politicians, violating their Oath of Office, constantly promoting the left agenda by undermining the Rule of Law, our Constitution, supporting unconstitutional practices and policies with… Read more »

OldNHGuy

You have my Vote , my Patriotic Friend.

KUETSA

The Second Amendment is a BALANCE OF POWER!

E. Bryan Hoover

Oldvet said: “@EBH…You sir are incorrect . As of 4/5/18 news comes out that death by gun violence is now higher in London than New York City .”

Oldvet, I am willing to be educated — where is the article from 4/5/2018 showing statistics of a more significant rise in gun caused deaths — if you can not — or will not – provide them — well talk is cheap…

E. Bryan Hoover

JoeUSooner

@EBH The numbers OldVet referenced were for TOTAL murders (regardless of weapon) in each city. Both cities have approximately 8-1/2 million populaton. London did indeed have more actual murders than NYC, in both 2016 and 2017. England (population 30 million) has a per-capita rate of 9.1 murders, and 990 violent crimes, per 100,000 citizens. The US (population 330,000,000) has a per-capita rate of 2.8 murders, and 220 violent crimes, per 100,000 citizens. From the average citizen’s viewpoint, England is four (4) times as dangerous overall than the US. *Those numbers for the US are from the FBI, the CDC, and… Read more »

David Bump
Resistence is futile

Progressives would like to return us to a time before recognition by government of our god given rights. They would rule as undisputed kings or dictators ordering us to do what they think is right and overriding our thoughts. We would not have any rights under progressive rule that they do not give us at their whim. What they do not understand is that humans are different so their one thought philosphy will not work.

Wild Bill

@Rif, Some how they all think that they would be in the ruling class. They do not realize that when their usefulness is over, they would be let go, one way or another. And here is another possibility that the progressive/socialist/libtards have not considered… they might lose.

Resistence is futile

Reading this article it appears that he would like to return us to a monarchy at best or a dictatorship at worse. His philosphy of following his orders because he knows better is anathema to our way of life and the beliefs of the founding fathers.

revjen45

It is obvious that he is mighty impressed with himself, what with a PhD (piled higher and deeper) degree and all. He thinks that We the Peons need the enlightened guidance of the Egghead Caste to live our lives correctly.

Henry

The guy needs to take a one way trip to Caracas Venezuela.

George Murphy

He would make a great toy for the general population in any US prison. That is the absolute best of the options for treason …. and he doesn’t deserve that!

CJ

Write your screed out with a quill pen & inkwell on goat parchment then have it hand delivered by pony express. The Constitution DOES NOT EXPIRE—SAME AS MY OATH TO PROTECT IT.

MOLON LABE

Toxichobo

What I find amazing time and time again is that these people swear an oath to uphold and protect the constitution while being sworn into office. It appears this is a formality for these misguided power hungry individuals and they wont and never intend to honor the oath of office. Yet people still vote them in. Then we just sit back and complain while we reelect these people term after term. Bogles the mind. Someone should remind Bill that there is a way to change the constitution not by ignoring it or twisting it to fit your views, but through… Read more »

Tom Ford

This guy is very smart and likely a Mensa member. Having been told all his life how smart he is, he believes he is smarter than those dumb old “Founders,” and knows better how to make society and government work – so he and his “peers” should be in charge, and the Constitution is just some old document to be brushed aside when it gets in the way – Obama said as much. When I first got out of the Army, I was in Mensa a few years, and found some great folks, but kept running into too many people… Read more »

2WarAbnVet

For some reason (perhaps ignorance) people believe the “Bill of Rights” is a gift from government that can be withdrawn by repeal.
The Founders believed that the rights enumerated therein were natural rights conferred by God. They were only included in the Constitution to remind government – in the future – of that fact because their experience told them that governments were untrustworthy.

Laddyboy

2WarAbnVet: AGREED!!!!!!!!!!! The Amendments were written to make sure future “politicians” would be reminded that there were RIGHTS that existed BEFORE the Constitution was put to “paper”.

Wild Bill

Go Airborne! And how do all these politicians, judges, and bureaucrats think that they can diminish what God has given?

45n90W

Born & raised in a left wing environment, college educated in a left wing school. No wonder he can’t talk straight: he’s only got a left wing, leading him to only circle back to the same lies time and again. And the people of the Chicago area, brain-washed as they are, can’t make any other choices. On the other hand, John Lott did actual research that proves that more guns equals fewer homicides and less crime over all.

carl mason

Civil War is coming! In Feb 1969 I was recruited by Mass Gov.Frank Sargent from Civil Defense to infiltrate Communist student groups. My Dad was a policeman and I had knowledge of explosives from a family owned quarry business.SDS was about to spawn the Weathermen who inspired about 2500 domestic bombings during the next two years. In those days dynamite could be purchased by the case at a farm in Keene NH.like a loaf of bread.We were told to never use marijuana because it can ‘turn you red’. Anyway it was an eye opener to see that these fellow travelers… Read more »

WTF

This is either stellar parody or you’re off your meds again.
Either way, Bravo!