Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing

Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing
Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- An Illinois technocrat has demonstrated the Progressive attitude about the Constitution and the Second Amendment. Representative Bill Foster has a PhD in Physics from Harvard. He was raised and earned his Bachelor degree in ultra-liberal Madison, Wisconsin.  In his view, the Constitution is a document that can be re-interpreted to mean different things every few years. That is true in a sense. Amendments to the Constitution can be put forward and passed any time. It is clear a constitutional amendment is not what Representative Foster is talking about. From chicagotribune.com:

Flanked by two area high school students, a pediatrician and the mother of a gun violence victim, U.S. Rep. Bill Foster told a community forum audience Monday the Second Amendment should be up for reinterpretation as new generations come into power.

“It always has been up for reinterpretation,” Foster, D-Naperville, said during an event focused on gun violence. “The technology changes, and the weapons thought to be too dangerous to be in private hands change. A civil war cannon is frankly much less dangerous than weapons we are allowed to carry on the streets in many of the states and cities in our country today. This is something where technology changes and public attitude changes and both are important in each of the generations.”

What does “reinterpretation” mean? It means you take the same words in the Constitution, and apply a different meaning to them. If you can do that, the Constitution only means what you want it to mean, when you want it to mean it. If Representative Foster means that legislators, such as himself, should change the meaning of the Constitution when they wish it, then Constitutional limits on government power mean nothing. Much of the purpose of the Constitution was to limit government power, to provide stability, to prevent rapid, radical change in the laws.

The Representative mentions technology changes and public attitudes. But technology changes apply to the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, and most of the Bill of rights. Should we give the legislature the power to change most of the Bill of Rights at will?

The Constitution is designed as a structure of government to moderate and delay change so as to prevent hurried legislation in response to emotional public reactions.

In short, Representative Foster is talking about scrapping the Constitution and ruling by legislative fiat. That has always been the Progressive way.  From heritage.org, a quote from Charles Merriam, an early, leading Progressive political scientist:

The individualistic ideas of the “natural right” school of political theory, endorsed in the Revolution, are discredited and repudiated…. The origin of the state is regarded, not as the result of a deliberate agreement among men, but as the result of historical development, instinctive rather than conscious; and rights are considered to have their source not in nature, but in law.

Progressives believe that experts should rule society, that the “average man” is incapable of knowing their own best interest. Progressives believe there is no absolute right and wrong. Right and wrong are defined by Progressives and their experts at any particular time.

Progressives see the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as obstacles to be overcome, not pillars of American society that must be defended.

Progressives generally view the State as god, or at least the manifestation of God on earth. Right is anything that advances Progressivism. Wrong is anything that hinders the Progressive agenda.

President Wilson, one of the political foundational Progressives, is attributed as believing that “limits on government power should be abolished”

Representative Foster is an iconic technocrat. After working as a government scientist for his career, he was able to win a seat in the House of Representatives. He does not believe in natural law. He does not take his oath of office seriously. No Progressive does. To Progressives, oaths, natural law, the Constitution, are all outdated concepts to be placed in the dustbin of history in order to achieve power. Setting aside the Constitutional questions, Foster ignores facts, and lies to advance his agenda.

Foster is a scientist. He understands how to lie with statistics. His prowess at doing so is shown below:

“I doubt that's the most effective way to control gun violence,” Foster said. “The most accurate predictor of the rate of gun homicides, if you look at the statistics, is actually the number of guns per person in the state or in the community.”

That is an irrelevant conclusion. “Gun violence” is a propaganda term. It is not germane to the argument about the effectiveness of legislation.  It does not matter to a victim if they die from a gunshot, or because they did not have a gun to defend themselves. If they die from a club, or a knife, or a bombing, they are still dead. If a country institutes restrictive gun legislation, and the homicide rate increases, the legislation is a failure for its stated purpose. It is irrelevant if the number deaths inflicted with guns goes down. It is the total, unjustified homicide rate that matters. John Lott says that every country that instituted gun bans saw increases in the homicide rate. From crimeresearch.org:

One thing gun control advocates such as Vox would never mention is that every single time that guns are banned — either all guns or all handguns — homicide/murder rates rise. This is a remarkable fact.

It would be unsurprising that if there are more guns, there are more gun homicides. If there are more cars, there are more car accidents. If there are more hospitals, more people die in hospitals.

What is surprising is that as the number of guns has increased in the United States over the last 30 years, the rate of gun homicides and gun accidents has decreased dramatically. Foster may not know this. Progressives are notoriously good at ignoring facts. As a scientist, he should know it. As a Progressive, it is “crimethink” as described in the novel, 1984. That fact contradicts his assertions, even about “gun homicides”.

 That fact contradicts his assertion, even about only "gun homicides".
That fact contradicts his assertion, even about only “gun homicides”.

Anyone can find “experts” to show statistics that agree with their position. That is the foundational weakness of Progressivism. Choose your expert, and you get the policies you want.

Representative Foster does not think you are smart enough to rule yourself. He does not think you will recognize his use of statistics to lie, or he would use other methods.

Improved technological communications allow everyone to contrast competing expert opinions and construct their own. That technology is changing all the Progressive assumptions about their ability to “construct consent” and rule as technological elites.

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Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

  • 157 thoughts on “Progressive Illinois Rep. Declares Constitution Means Nothing

    1. @WB, Nov. 24….what a synchnocristic statement, I just watched “The Mechanic” starring Charles Bronson. We live in a very dangerous world where there are no guarantees. And invisible figures move in the shadows.

      1. And tonight I watched a round table of retired intelligence operatives in an interview, and One said that they need to hire 3 regiments of Samurai for one night to put an end to the problem.

    2. “An unarmed man, is an enslaved man!” “A disarmed man, is a conquered man!’ “I shall not be enslaved or conquered!”
      Sic Semper Tyrannis !

        1. Bill foster most believe that the Bible should also be change because of the changes that man and the court’s have made from marriage to sexuality or simply because its the 21 first century according to Obama, comparing slavery and their freedom to homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

    3. There are many different issues I respectfully disagree with President Trump about. But, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster is a traitor to the U.S.A. for saying our U.S. Constitution means nothing! Bill Foster should be permanently deported to a miserable, terrible country such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Venezuela, or North Korea, so he gets a taste of his own medicine!

      1. I do believe that if you dial up 630-310-6588, a number in Downers Grove, Illinois, you can leave Rep. Foster a voice mail message. He might even answer the phone himself, and you can ask him exactly what he means by that. Maybe he can expound on that statement and let you in on how many others of his Progressive Clique feel that way also. That will give us an idea of how big an enema our government needs.

        1. He takes the oath merely in order to get into office in the first place.

          Remember, he’s a leftist (liberal, socialist, progressive – whatever they call themselves this month). Neither 1) “truthfulness” nor 2) “the ‘character’ necessary to KEEP an oath” is ever a significant factor [or even a minor one] in achieving liberal goals… for publicity/public relations purposes, liberals find it convenient when either of those two factors can, by sheer lucky happenstance/coincidence, occur publicly – but it is never necessary to the socialist agenda.

    4. His comment regarding the Civil War Cannon is rather self-defeating, to his argument. At the time, a 3-inch Cannon was a devastating weapon. Private citizens can own them. The Gatling gun came along in the mid-to-late 19th century. An incredibly devastating weapon for its time. Free to be owned by private citizens.

    5. The goal of the Progressive is to change the government of this country from a Capitalist Representative Republic to a Socialist/Communist Government! A form of government noted for its’ cruelty, no freedom or liberty and a life of misery! This type of government is desired by people who want Power over the People! Like the writer states, they don’t think we are capable of deciding how we live our lives and want to force us to live it their way! Basically they are the Masters and the People are the Slaves! The removal of Freedom will never happen in this country! We have been Free too long! We will fight to keep our Freedom and will defeat those who desire to enslave us!

    6. If one Constitutional Amendment is open for re-interpretation, then they all are. That being the case, I don’t believe anyone, particularly politicians, should have the right to the speak against anything written before their birth. Speaking from a technological perspective, this jack wagon has no idea what was on the framer’s minds since he wasn’t present at the time. His 1st Amendment rights should be limited to only that which has occurred or been written during his lifetime.
      But I’m sure he was talking about re-interpreting only those portions of our government which impede his agenda.

    7. Certainly this slug should not be elected or re-elected. But as for treason, it isn’t. Treason has a particular defoinition.
      What he has done is commit perjury or making a false statement under oath.
      He should be impeached and forfeit and pension, salary or retirement.
      But will the Chicago Democrat Machine allow such action?
      Keep it on the public mind and don’t let him get re-elected. That means that he needs to be acurrately described as a slug in the local TV and newspaper.

      1. The Constitutional definition of TREASON has to do with “waging war” against theUS. “War” does not necessarily mean picking up a gun and shooting at soldiers. We have the “War on Poverty” and “The War on Drugs” that have both been going on for decades, and no shots have been fired. What they are doing is a “War on the 2A” and a “War On The Constitution”. The more they are successful, the more danger they expose US citizens to. Imagine if they manage to get America disarmed, and future caravans continue to flood our nation, similar to what happened in Europe. Now, how much danger will US citizens be in if not only caches of food and water are available to these caravans along their journeys, but caches of fully automatic weapons were waiting for them when they crossed the border into the US ? Make no mistake, these globalist are waging war against the 2A and the Constitution in a concerted manner. “Progressive” is just a code word for TRAITOR ! It is their tool of waging war on our Bill of Rights. And where is Superman or Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him ?

          1. For the record, I do not condone violence in any way, shape, or form. But in some cases you would be hard pressed to see any tears fall from my eyes. And all executions for TREASON must come only after a fair and speedy trial, a proper tar and feathering, and a bumpy rail ride down to the hanging tree. Afterwards, we shall all pray for their immortal soul, just in case there is the slightest chance to save them.

            1. @LP314, Well, said, but outlines a lot of work. Just for the record that any federal agency might be keeping, I do not condone auto accidents, where corrupt betrayers of the Constitution and American people are run over by innocent motorists! Of course that requires careful intel gathering.

    8. We are a nation of laws and our Constitution codifies the ideals and the
      laws that our Founders, representatives from each State, agreed to, in order to form a Union. In their wisdom, they knew the future would bring changes they could not foresee so they set up the amendment process codifying how changes could be made with the majority of States agreeing to the changes. Mr. Foster, who has a hidden agenda, would like to throw away the whole process with its checks and balances and its slow process necessary for major change because that’s the only way his hidden agenda could ever be realized. He and his fellow Progressives and Globalists think they are so much smarter than the Founders and , of course, smarter than the rest of us. People like him are the very reason the Constitution makes the change process one that would be slow and deliberate and require the agreement of most of the citizens.

      1. It’s called Anti-Social Narcissism; he’s an example of what Jung meant by people born without a moral compass; I want – I want – I want, and nothing else matters.

    9. Given the lack of attention from constituents thatis seemingly involved here, people get what they deserve might be a most appropriate observation.

      1. He took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. He obviously lied to the US Congress and should be prosecuted and sent to jail. What the hell is going on in this country to let these charlatans walk the streets as free men.

    10. .
      Send him to prison for breaking his oath.
      It’s treasonous to say the least.

      Senate and Congressional members are sworn to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same”

      This bastard is a liar and a fraud.
      This man is a criminal.
      Treat him as such.

    11. More dangerous than a Civil War cannon? I think the the Representative needs to reread his civil war history. Oh that’s – right history is open to reinterpretation every few years as well

      1. The perfesser can have his choice of handgun and I’ll use a 12 pounder with a double charge of canister – at 100 yards and on the count of 3 we’ll shoot it out. A true test that theory on how much more dangerous that modern weapon is in comparison to a civil war cannon.

        (Would it be bad form to take a mega insurance policy out on him?)

    12. @Ric Beal….You seem to be from the Pepsi generation since you got fizzzzz for brains. If you don’t know what the definition of “is” is, it is because you got fizzzzyyy mush for brains, and the same goes for the word “infringe”. Furthermore, what any SCOTUS says about anything in their “Judicial Review” is merely their opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. My bet to you sir, is that the 2A as it “is” and has been for all these hundreds of years, will still “be” long after any SCOTUS has departed this realm. And to insure that, we shall be commencing to identify all the TRAITORS and domestic enemies we have become infested with and put them on “The List” to be dealt with accordingly. The Constitution is still the Supreme Law of the land, and people take an oath to it. To attempt to trash it the way they have been doing “is” a crime in itself that does and will have consequences. Stick around Sonny, you will see.

      1. You’re already on a list, rectum. And before too long, you’ll be neighbors with your Fuhrer, in federal prison. Maybe you can shake his tiny hand. You don’t frighten anyone. You are a joke, a laughing stock. A national embarrassment. Is there a mole on your labia, little girl?

      2. You make it sound like it is sacred, like the Quran. Are you with ISIS/Daesh? Or just al-Qaeda? You are just too stupid to be more than an annoyance.

            1. Why don’t you go away until you get older. It has dawned on me that you are a sophomoric freshman, probably from a foreign country, still very wet behind the ears. Besides, anyone in favor of depriving Americans of their Second Ammendment Rights, and then calls for their incarceration for being patriots in a Federal Prison, can only be a half baked whelp who listens to their Marxist parents & teachers. Like the coached kid, Hogg.

          1. Your opinions, and those of anyone and everyone else, on any subject, including legal or otherwise, are opinions. Shit. When a majority opinion is handed down after adjudication of the issue before the Supreme Court, it becomes law. Case Law, and precedent, if legal precedent is made by the disposition of the instant case. There is Res judicata and collateral estoppel to be considered that preventing a matter being relitigated to death. In point of fact, your melodramatic and ominous boasts about what you’ll do at the “big showdown” are lines from a really bad movie script with Dolph Lundgren. You’ll go to your grave having absolutely no idea what you died for. It sure isn’t the constitution you haven’t read.

            Judicial Review
            Judicial review is the idea, fundamental to the US system of government, that the actions of the executive and legislative branches of government are subject to review and possible invalidation by the judiciary. Judicial review allows the Supreme Court to take an active role in ensuring that the other branches of government abide by the constitution. Judicial review of the government was established in the landmark decision of Marbury v. Madison, with the famous line from Chief Justice John Marshall: “It is emphatically the duty of the Judicial Department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases must, of necessity, expound and interpret the rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the Court must decide on the operation of each.”

    13. Dean Weingarten is a dead ringer for Wade Gustafson. The clown Steve Buscemi gutshot on the roof of the parking garage in Fargo. What he probably doesn’t understand, nor any other imbecile opening his or her mouth to demonstrate how ignant he or she is, the concept of Judicial Review. The constitution says whatever the SCOTUS says it says.They have the sole power of Judicial Review. What you idiots, (and that now includes Trump, according to Gen Kelly), will never realize or understand is how that came to be. It’s not in the constitution, a document that is vague and ambiguous by design. Marbury v Madison (1803). Check it out. Foster is the constitutionalist here. The rest of you are tin foil hat wearing lunatics.

      http://landmarkcases.c-span.org/Case/1/Marbury-V-Madison
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/5/137
      https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/5us137

      1. Newsflash for the Ric BeallHello morons: The SCOTUS does not enjoy the status of All Supreme Leader, and like all other government agencies, it is bound by the plain English text of the United States Constitution. And contrary to your ignorant and asinine screed, the SCOTUS does not have “the sole power of Judicial Review.” The sovereign nation-States that created the federal government, including the SCOTUS, and gave it the only lawful authority it has, has a superior power of Judicial Review over any ruling not Pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution is not vague and ambiguous by design, and your inability to understand it does not make it so. It is, indeed, very specific as to the powers delegated and as to the powers denied, and Marbury v. Madison established in law the principle of Judicial Review that was already the legal standard among the colonists. But the SCOTUS may be overruled by the States, and ultimately by the people, when its rulings are not Pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. To the extent the federal government fails to abide by the constraints of the Constitution in its activities, it abdicates its lawful authority to govern and becomes a rogue occupation government without a shred of lawful authority.

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