Time for Changes at National Rifle Association

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Time for Changes at National Rifle Association

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- Bloomberg's propaganda mill The Trace, and Mother Jones magazine, have been working overtime together to investigate NRA's activities, digging up as much dirt as they can find, and doing their best to keep the media rumor mill abuzz with negative National Rifle Association news.

Obviously both of these “news” outlets are extremely anti-rights and anti-NRA, and they are painting everything they can find in the worst possible light, but unfortunately, this is not “fake news.” The smoke our enemies have been pointing at is coming from real fires within the organization, and it's getting worse.

The financial woes have prompted an austerity campaign on Waples Mill Road, laying off a number of employees, cutting back programs, and even doing away with coffee service for the staff. Meanwhile, the guy wielding the hatchet, and the rest of the NRA executive staff, are taking home exorbitant paychecks of a half-million to almost a million-and-a-half dollars a year, and crony parasites are sucking out tens of millions more, while the organization is operating millions of dollars in the red.

The basic financial problems will probably be rectified in the short-term by the insatiable avarice of the new Democrat-controlled House of Representatives. Now that Nancy Pelosi and her anti-rights zealots have actively begun pushing new gun control legislation, Bob and Sally Gunowner will again be digging into their pockets to send in another twenty bucks to the NRA, and the organization's finances will soon appear to be back on reasonably solid ground. But the core problems won't go away so easily.

An organization that depends on $20 contributions from hard-working members, should be extremely scrupulous about how they raise and spend those dollars, but the leadership of NRA has demonstrated a serious lack of concern about such things, paying executives exorbitant salaries, and signing blank checks to outside vendors like advertising agency, Ackerman McQueen. At the same time, leadership has made serious blunders in a variety of directions, from the heavy-handed roll-out of their CCW training/insurance program – NRA Carry Guard – to seriously questionable practices in the areas of fundraising and political contributions, and downright foolish and unprincipled positions taken on bump-stocks, Extreme Risk Protection Orders, and other critical, core mission matters. They've even managed to alienate the competitive shooters who have been a mainstay of the organization since it was founded in 1871.

The NRA Board of Directors came within just a few votes of the 2/3 majority needed to fire Wayne LaPierre back in 1996 when similar financial and philosophical problems boiled over. The problems then were serious but didn't hold a candle to the problems we're seeing today. At that time, one of the major bones of contention was the undue influence of the NRA's outside PR company, Ackerman McQueen. Directors were upset about the fundraising tactics Ack-Mac was employing, and the base fees of over a quarter-million dollars a year being paid out to them with no accountability.

With Ack-Mac's help, LaPierre survived that challenge and thrived. They helped him push Neal Knox and the other Directors who had pushed for accountability, off the Board. From there, payments to Ack-Mac skyrocketed, and LaPierre's personal compensation doubled, then doubled again, going from $250,000 per year to almost $1.5 million. Ack-Mac was listed on NRA's most recent IRS filing as receiving over $20 million that year in direct compensation.

The current Board of Directors has allowed this situation to get where it is today. They've failed in their fiduciary responsibility to safeguard the members' resources and to keep the association focused on their core missions. While there are many good people on the Board, they have demonstrated a serious lack of gumption and integrity. That's why we have consistently worked to bring new blood into the group, and why we are again endorsing Adam Kraut for election to the Board. We're also endorsing Anthony Colandro from New Jersey this year and might find one or two others we'll ask you to vote for as we learn more about the candidates.

We are well past the point where the current leadership can be expected to correct the situation from within. Wayne LaPierre has got to go, along with the entirety of the executive staff, and all support contracts need to be reevaluated and either dropped or seriously renegotiated.

This leaves the question, if not Wayne, then who?

Unfortunately, I don't have the answer to that question. The NRA needs a new CEO who is 100% dedicated to the principles of the Second Amendment, and who has the management skills to completely revamp a multimillion dollar organization from top to bottom. That's a tall order, especially when you enter in the political complications of trying to bring in someone like a former governor or others with close government and/or party ties. Perhaps the best option would be an interim candidate, someone like a retired CEO or former General like James “Mad Dog” Mattis, who would serve for a year or two, wield the bloody hatchet, then step down to turn the reins over to a more permanent executive to take the revamped and streamlined organization forward.

This is a discussion that we need to have, and when I say “we,” I mean you too. Do you know, or know of someone who fits the bill? Please leave a comment, and let's get this discussion going. The Democrats in Congress will probably help the NRA to recover from their immediate financial woes by triggering a boost in donations, but more money isn't going to solve the real problems, only a major overhaul will accomplish that – if it can be done at all.

Meanwhile, we at The Firearms Coalition will continue fighting the good fight and keeping you posted on what's going on at Waples Mill Road and in Washington DC, so please consider supporting our efforts by subscribing to our newsletter, sending contributions, and sharing these articles on social media.


Jeff Knox
Jeff Knox

About Jeff Knox:

Jeff Knox is a second-generation political activist and director of The Firearms Coalition. His father Neal Knox led many of the early gun rights battles for your right to keep and bear arms. Read Neal Knox – The Gun Rights War.

The Firearms Coalition is a loose-knit coalition of individual Second Amendment activists, clubs and civil rights organizations. Founded by Neal Knox in 1984, the organization provides support to grassroots activists in the form of education, analysis of current issues, and with a historical perspective of the gun rights movement. The Firearms Coalition has offices in Buckeye, Arizona and Manassas, VA. Visit: www.FirearmsCoalition.org.

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People, There much being said on this feed about money and how it is being spent. Yes, I agree that Wayne has got to leave, but not in this manner… It is my opinion that severe pay cuts are in order, along with severing ties with high priced service companies. This should free up needed funds for the fight.. let’s call it what it is…a war. What we are facing is a “cultural” War being waged via the “media”. This onslaught of propaganda, and the spike of shootings in carefully selected locations, are giving us a mountain of bad press.… Read more »

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Mark Are

There are a lot of comments here, so I might be being redundant when I say…MAYBE, just maybe this is all be design. What a better way to destroy the NRA then to get folks into it that are against what the NRA stands for. And this may have been going on since the 1930’s. Because the NRA has been compromising at least since then. If I had looked into their practices back when I had become a life member, I wouldn’t have done so. Currently I place ALL of my support behind Gun Owners of America. They DON’T compromise.… Read more »

Terry
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Terry

They may all get indicted in the probe of the Russian spy who worked with the NRA and the funneling of money from the Russian government to the GOP.

Mack The Knife
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Mack The Knife

The real story is how the community is feeding on itself making the gun grabbers job very easy. It won’t be the gun grabbers taking our guns it will be us handing them over

The Revelator
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The Revelator

@Mack the Knife. Then stop feeding the grabbers… Stop defending those in the NRA who have created these problems. Help those of us who are trying to fix it instead of helping the corrupt entrench themselves. Sorry, Wayne must go. The leadership must be replaced with principled people who will stand and defend. Those of us who have watched the NRA betray its membership will not budge on this. If you want to watch the NRA die a slow death by its own hand as it burns on a pyre of cronyism, greed, and obstinance then by all means, continue… Read more »

Francis Affolter
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Francis Affolter

what about Oliver North, whats he doing with the NRA.

Todd Chelnik
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Todd Chelnik

Nothing good.

Kal
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Kal

Well, so many comments & opinions! Let’s remember the original article is also listed as “opinion.” So the NRA has drifted in a number of ways. Separating truth from fiction seems to be a daunting task. Hopefully everyone involved directly or indirectly keeps their emotions in check. Yes I know when it comes to the only document/words (on earth) that is focused solely on true freedom, it’s hard not to get emotional. With the people we have today posing as the govt of the US (and we know 90% are total socialist) it is more important than ever that we… Read more »

Charlie Foxtrot
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Charlie Foxtrot

“Separating truth from fiction seems to be a daunting task.” How so? As I posted in this thread, the NRA executive salaries, the NRA’s expenditures, and the NRA’s close to non-existing spending on lawsuits is a matter of public record in IRS filings! The bump stock ban and the NRA leadership’s role in it is a fact! The NRA leadership’s support for red flag laws is a fact! That the NRA Carry Guard insurance is crap, is a fact! That the NRA threw the USCCA out of the NRA Annual Meeting is a fact! That the NRA Carry Guard training… Read more »

Oldmarine
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Oldmarine

Oldmariine >>> Charlie Foxtrot I agree. I am a member and just received my 2019 card. The NRA is changing into a controlling organization leading the members astray with “rope a dope”. I wold like to see them be more open with the members by listening to what the members say. The only way they will change is if the members really put pressure on the executives. How I don’t know but time will tell. The best I can think of is follow the money.. I know that many members are frustrated with The NRA and for good reason. If… Read more »

The Revelator
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The Revelator

@Oldmariine

That was a well reasoned and worded argument. Good job.

Kal
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Kal

Well Charlie Foxtrot, it would seem you have all the facts! and most if not all the answers. Why don’t you take Wayne’s place and become the new face of the NRA? I was NOT questioning you or anyone else as though it’s all a lie or wrong information. Quite simply I for one like to verify fact from opinion when im able so I can accurately educate myself. Is that a problem? A fool takes everything at face value without verifying. That is a fact! Considering the subject matter of the NRA going wayward, having been “the one voice”… Read more »

Marvin Cox
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Marvin Cox

Trey gowdy

Michael Maynard
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Michael Maynard

I couldn’t agree more.

Mark Are
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Mark Are

The NRA bylaws aren’t even being followed by the NRA. They ignore the first 13 words of the 2nd amendment which if by the way was in force, WOULD be putting the government in fear and respect of the people.

Robert taylor
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Robert taylor

After many years of membership in the NRA 60s 70s ,& buying and owning and collecting guns and rifles I got away from the hobby. During this time the organization has grown beyond my original attraction to the organization. That was group interest in the fields of gun ownership , hunting , and target shooting . Lately I have renewed my interest in arms & self protection forced on me by the times and the ever increasing pressure by politicians and socialist groups attempting to limit my rights to ownership and pursuit of my choices. Recently my two daughter’s and… Read more »

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Quitchurbittichin

Bloomberg is rolling on the floor laughing about how effective his $millions spent in the anti-gun arena is…wake up !!…When Bloomberg pumps $Millions into Ca and pro-gunners only can raise less than One Million, guess who won?? Our sportsmans club and shooting range is under attack from the local EPA and State regulators over lead, and through the California Rifle & Pistol Assn. we have contracted their attorneys and are having some help and success we would not have had otherwise. They are the ones associated with the NRA in Ca. They have dozens of law suits against the state… Read more »

NRA Life Member
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NRA Life Member

Just hope that the NRA is not abandoning you like they did me: https://tennesseefirearms.com/2017/01/nras-lawsuit-against-the-city-of-knoxville-over-chilhowee-park-ban-settled-not-good-for-gun-owners/ https://tennesseefirearms.com/2017/08/lawsuit-over-parks-ban-against-knoxville-to-be-dismissed-as-moot-because-of-new-tennessee-law/ My money goes to the Firearms Policy Coalition, Gun Owners of America, and the Second Amendment Foundation, all of which have done more in the courts that the NRA. I am also a member of the USCCA, you know, the concealed carry insurance organization that got thrown out of the NRA Annual Meeting for competing with the NRA Carry Guard insurance. I was already a USCCA member when that happened and that was the last time I attended the NRA Annual Meeting and spent any… Read more »

sb
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sb

Amen Brother

Mojo Medicine
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Mojo Medicine

I agree that financial accountability needs to be transparent to its members and we should have a say more often. The real problems sliding under the radar is “states rights”, “police state” and the “deep state neo con” manuavers going on. While everyone is focusing on the general bickering in D.C. over our fundamental second amendment rights that should be settled and technically is, the control advocates that are making money to go after our constitution rights should no longer be allowed to continue to stir the pot, something has to be locked down there politically once and for all… Read more »

Joe
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Joe

I have been hearing about huge NRA executives salaries but have yet to see any numbers quoted. Are these salaries a matter of public knowledge? I’d really like to see how much LaPierre and Cox make. Real numbers, not opinions.

Charlie Foxtrot
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Charlie Foxtrot

The NRA’s 990 tax forms with the executive salaries are a matter of public record: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/530116130

In 2016 alone, Wayne LaPierre made $1,422,339, Chris Cox made $997,431, Marion Hammer made $206,000, and Ackerman McQueen Inc. got $21,356,593. In 2015, Wayne LaPierre made $5,110,985, Chris Cox made $1,450,842, Marion Hammer made $172,000, and Ackerman McQueen Inc. got $13,807,643. … and so on and so on and so on …

Compare those to the meager numbers of the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund, which actually does support lawsuits: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/521136665

Jim Hovater
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Jim Hovater

By his own admission, LaPierre isn’t even a gun owner.

Bill
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Bill

Hearsay?
Prove it.

Don McCarty Jr
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Don McCarty Jr

Sheriff David Clarke comes to mind for this job

Charlie Foxtrot
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Charlie Foxtrot

I am not sure if he would not scare away even more gun owners, given his law and order attitude and the recent issues of the NRA of not backing lawful gun owners that got shot by police officers.

It also looks like Sheriff David Clarke went on a six-day trip to Russia in 2015 funded with $6,000 by Maria Butina. I don’t count that as a clean start.

Michael Maynard
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Michael Maynard

Though I like the good sheriff, he comes with a bit of baggage. I don’t think he’d make a good fit at the top.

Someone in an earlier comment had a good suggestion. Trey Gowdy. I can’t think of a more principled 2nd Amendment advocate than Mr. Gowdy.

Old Marine
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Old Marine

Oldmarine >>> Commenters I have found at least 8 different opinions and a few personal insults on this subject. Many have an interesting outlook but all of them forget where all the Anti-Constitutional BS comes from. Where ? you say, well follow it back to the very source and you will find it comes from Politicians pushing their own power hungry agendas. Every one of them has acted as a traitor to this country with acts of Perjury of their “Oath of Office” and fraudulent acts against the people. “Government by the people for the people” is not up held… Read more »

MICHAEL J FALCONE
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MICHAEL J FALCONE

I am a Life member and been an active supporter for many years. There is some very disconcerting truth to this article. For starters the Wall Street Journal published an Article Dec.1-2 issue stating the NRA mis-managed it funds and favored insiders with huge payments. To date there has been no published rebuttal by the NRA to my knowledge. With all the advertising and PR fees that are paid out no ongoing attempt to rebut this or put a different spin on it has been done. I know most of the hard working membership does not read the WSJ but… Read more »

Margo
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Margo

There are NO common sense gun laws….only the loss of gun rights. To cave in on anything is too give up rights to which we are entitled too. It is my belief that as long as we hold on to our guns, and that means to not surrender them up to any law passed saying that this gun is now illegal or that attachment is no longer legal to own. The Second amendment is the reason why we are still a free people. If the only way we can protect and keep the second amendment is to fight for it,… Read more »

Mark Are
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Mark Are

We’re a free people?SERIOUSLY? Taxing our very labor is the definition of SLAVERY. The use of fiat currency for all of our needs, with no recourse is SLAVERY. Paying rent (ie property taxes) on our own homes ever year even if we pay off the mortgage is the definition of SLAVERY. Being forced at gun point to buy health insurance is the definition of SLAVERY. Are you living in the USA or some other country? We are nothing but pissed off armed slaves which is why the slave masters want us disarmed. They issue us serial numbers at birth now… Read more »

Vlad
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Vlad

Agreed. It’s that common delusion that “we are the good ole USA – we are free and brave…” Nonsense. Nothing more than delusional propaganda. We are being held down in a choke hold and we are losing consciousness quickly. If we go out, we are done. For good. Done.

Tony A.
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Tony A.

We need a new spokesperson. Dana Loesch comes across as a mean angry woman who is not doing us any favors.

Joe
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Joe

Boy, do I agree. I wonder how she got to be a spokesperson for me much less 5 million NRA members. First she was not there, and then she was. Like magic! Or like something else.

Mott
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Mott

“NRA executive staff, are taking home exorbitant paychecks of a half-million to almost a million-and-a-half dollars a year,” If this is true (and I do not doubt it) The board needs to step in to cut the pay (I have NEVER gotten that much) or start making heads roll. Looks like they would rather sit back and draw a pay check and do nothing much to help.SMH

Charlie Foxtrot
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Charlie Foxtrot

The way I understand the structure of the NRA, the NRA Board of Directors actually has to approve those salaries. Also, the members of the NRA Board of Directors do not automatically get a paycheck. The NRA’s 990 tax forms with the executive salaries are a matter of public record: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/530116130. Look under Part VII. In 2016 alone, Wayne LaPierre made $1,422,339, Chris Cox made $997,431, Marion Hammer made $206,000, and Ackerman McQueen Inc. got $21,356,593. In 2015, Wayne LaPierre made $5,110,985, Chris Cox made $1,450,842, Marion Hammer made $172,000, and Ackerman McQueen Inc. got $13,807,643. … and so on… Read more »

Jason
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Jason

Look at the list above. Influential members of the board – like Marion Hammer – are also receiving huge salaries. Board members should not be paid by the organization they’re supposed to be governing.

Some of the “executives” not only get huge salaries but get huge housing allowances. Change is needed.

rich z
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rich z

Someone asked if the N.R.A. has done anything about the NYS safe act.? Better ask yourself, has ANY of the pro -gun groups , except the NYSRPA, done anything to help your answer would be NOT MUCH. HAY AMMOLAND NEWS This is true , NO HELP.

rich z
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rich z

Someone asked if the N.R.A. has done anything about the NYS safe act.? Better ask yourself, has ANY of the pro -gun groups , except the NYSRPA, done anything to help your answer would be NOT MUCH.

Joseph P Martin
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Joseph P Martin

The facts stated in the article were clear and precise, regardless of how people want to spin them. You may not like the author, but you cannot argue against the truth.

durabo
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durabo

I am a Life Member of the NRA. I WAS a certified Firearms Instructor for over three decades, but when the NRA changed the training programs to online study and direct payment, this action put many instructors out of business. I refuse to have a student who has taken the course inline without being observed and constantly evacuated by the instructor. There is no way to assess who took the online course, and the student may continue his unsafe gun-handling practices, inasmuch as he may continue his activity uncorrected. I refused to renew my instructor certification in 2018. I plan… Read more »

sick_of_the_lies
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sick_of_the_lies

There are obvious and blatant defects in the NRA, without doubt. Capitulation to anti-gunners; squandering precious financial resources: supporting bump stock bans and “Red Flag” legislation, among other issues. Even so, there is no organization that exists, or has ever existed, that carries the collective clout and political influence of the NRA. With 5+ million members; 147 years of experience defending gun rights and gun owners; an on-demand media network presence (NRA TV); high-profile personalities like Col. Oliver North out in front of the organization, only the NRA is positioned to fend off the anti-gun liberal left, and the coffers… Read more »

Lou
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Lou

sick_of_the_lies

The NRA was not a civil rights organization until the coup of ’77 with Neal Knox. Prior to that the NRA supported the 1968 Gun Control Act, the 1934 National Firearms Act, and numerous state level laws. It was primarily a sports shooting organization.

Tom
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Tom

There are other more “grassroots” organizations out there such as Second Amendment Foundation and it’s sister organization CCRKBA (Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms). GOA (Gun Owners of America) is also one. Look into local and state organizations as well. I am also a NRA member and have always had concerns over some of their policies and actions. As gun owners we need to stay together with common goals to put an end to the liberal BS that is coming.

NRA Life Member
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NRA Life Member

Out of curiosity, how do you know that the NRA has 5+ million members? There has been no reliable reporting on that by the NRA. There was once a news article stating that 40 million people associate themselves with the NRA. What does that even mean? In contrast, how many members that stopped paying dues is the NRA still counting as members? Col. Oliver North certainly knows something about running guns. His appointment was made to appeal to a small segment of society that is still willing to donate to the NRA. Do you think Col. Oliver North appeals to… Read more »

Tom
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Tom

I`ve been a proud NRA member since `75 (Life since `78). I`ve seen a lot of changes over the years, and I believe the NRA needs a re-do. Crazy salaries, too many stupid sweepstakes, mailings, high priced stuff in their catalog, etc. I don`t even read 90% of the stuff they send me anymore. Just chuck it in the burn barrel-all they do is ask for money. I`ve upgraded my Life Membership twice, but don`t donate very much anymore. Can`t afford what they want. I do belong to the GOA, and will probably join the Buckeye Firearms Association. They keep… Read more »

Gary Munn
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Gary Munn

I would like to suggest sheriff David Clark for the position of C.E.O. of the N.R.A.,if he be in agreement. A man of great integrity, willing to do what is necessary to preserve Liberty in this great nation.
G.M.

StormCloud
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StormCloud

Don’t argue.This ain’t no English class.United we stand…you know the rest of that. And you know what they say about opinions.Fact-go by GOD’S law,beware of man’s law. Check out the Ten Comandments.Go by them and all will be OK. The Bill of Rights is not a bill of needs or opinions. Storm Cloud said this,it’s my Right.

Donbmcd
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Donbmcd

This whole article is nothing but an ad for your group???!!! What a phony.

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

@ Donbmcd

Seriously it’s about the ills over time and correcting them of the NRA ,not a company,product or person.

Link
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Link

@donbmcd

So the payments to the PR company don’t bother you ?? As well as the other issues ??
Either your a anti-gun troll or stupid, the NRA needs to change and they need to do so a few years ago.

Vanns40
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Vanns40

Donbmcd: Nothing I enjoy more than calling out a phony commenter and “Donbmcb” you are one. You toss out that accusation against Jeff, whom I’ve known since he was a kid, with nothing to back it up, no further comments or facts. Jeff has worked tirelessly in the RKBA community, fighting for Second Amendment Rights his entire life for next to nothing. That’s all he does. What have you done except be a keyboard warrior with a big mouth? Every FACT Jeff presented is exactly that, fact, and there is so much more it would fill volumes. Jeff, his brother… Read more »

Tim Delamarter
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Tim Delamarter

Question: has the NRA done ANYTHING to challenge/change New York’s “SAFE” Act?? Which was FORCED in the middle of one night??

Charles Nichols
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Charles Nichols

Jeff Knox opposes Open Carry. In July of 2011, he attacked me and my lawsuit to overturn California’s Open Carry ban. We do not need to replace Wayne LaPierre, who has been funding lawsuits against Open Carry since at least April of 2010 (Peruta v. San Diego) with someone who likewise opposes Open Carry.

Jeff Knox
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Jeff Knox

I usually try to avoid participating in the Comment section, reserving this area for our readers, but Charles has made assertions that I can’t leave unchallenged. I strongly support Open Carry, and personally practice it on a frequent basis. For many years, it was the only form of carry legally available to us in Arizona and for several years it was my daily practice. I did not attack Charles or his lawsuit. I, along with attorneys I consulted, found the lawsuit lacking, and considered it to be dangerously risky. Bad lawsuits result in bad precedents, and bad precedents make winning… Read more »

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

Adam Kraut or yourself are two that come to mind,right off the top.

Charles Nichols
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Charles Nichols

Jeff Knox is a liar. Why would you want to replace Wayne LaPierre with a liar?

Leonard Embody
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Leonard Embody

You criticized Charle’s lawsuit before he filed it. You would fit right in with the current Nra leadership.

Jeff Knox
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Jeff Knox

After Charles sent me his filing documents and briefs to review, and spent hours on the phone explaining the case to me, I suggested that I, and several very good attorneys that I trust, and who also reviewed the documents, felt that the lawsuit was overambitious and not well structured,. I tried to convince Charles not to file it, because I felt it was not winnable, and could result in a bad precedent. I then reported that conclusion in a column, again urging him not to file the case. But Charles is convinced that he understands the law and the… Read more »

Charles Nichols
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Charles Nichols

Jeff Knox, you are a liar. I am not stating an opinion, that is a statement of fact. So sue me. You will, of course, be required to produce the documents/emails you claim I sent to you as well as your phone logs as to when I spoke with you and your notes of the conversation. But since I never spoke with you on the phone and I never sent you any documents, you won’t be able to produce them but it will prove you to be the liar that you are. You condemned my lawsuit months before I had… Read more »

Charles Nichols
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Charles Nichols

Jeff Knox is a liar. He can, of course now sue me and I, of course, can prove he is a liar whereas he cannot prove that he is telling the truth.

Greg K
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Greg K

Jeff, not knowing the specifics of this case, I’m a bit hesitant to comment, but believe it’s warranted. As you stated you support “Open Carry,” as we all should. In fact, it’s sewn directly into the spirit of the 2nd Amendment. Anything past that we are asking for Permission (Permitting), and that is why we fight those cases. I certainly understand how bad precedence can affect further cases, but right now Gottlieb is winning Unwinnable cases. People are adapting a “not one more step back” mentality, as they should. What they believe they were paying for is an advocacy that… Read more »

Charles Nichols
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Charles Nichols

Jeff Knox is a liar. He can, of course now sue me and I, of course, can prove he is a liar whereas he cannot prove that he is telling the truth.

Craig
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Craig

I believe that back when OUR Constitution was written the the muskets of that time would have been consider a “assault weapon”. Everything has changed since that time, however; we are (or should be) a free nation BECAUSE of our founding fathers, of THAT TIME, recognized the need of the CITIZENS of this great country to be able to not only defend themselves but also defend OUR nation & OUR way of life. Oh, AND, while I’m thinking about it – if you don’t like living here, in the U.S.A., under OUR Christian based laws – PLEASE, feel FREE to… Read more »

Mike
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Mike

Just saying as an American your duty is to be disobedient and understand that laws can’t scorn your right nor anyone else’s to. E free. The place were at in the American political landscape an be likened to taxation without representation (taxation ofcourse unless voluntary is theft) and instead of backing the thin red (blue) line back then we shot those who would uphold oppressive mandates and laws.

BARNACLE BILL
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BARNACLE BILL

Mike: I watch a lot of James Freemans audits and I would suggest that the “thin blue liners” take heed to words like yours. I agree with you. Try reading “First Freedom” by David Harsanyi.

AGP
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AGP

When Gov Malloy and Democrats pushed their “Assault Rifle” ban here in Connecticut, the NRA was conspicuously ABSENT. No help at all. They didn;t even send a representative from HQ to the large rallies we held at Hartford. The poor local lady who was “NRA State Rep” was left to flounder alone. It was CCDL, a grassroots state group, that led the opposition as best we could. NRA lost support and respect from CT that year. If not for requirements for co-NRA membership in local range clubs, they would have no one. Yes, it indeed is past time for a… Read more »

sb
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sb

As to no rep in CT from the NRA Grassroot rep was there Christen Ragosta

Sho Rembo
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Sho Rembo

That’s probably who AGP was talking about when he said “The poor local lady who was “NRA State Rep” was left to flounder alone.”

Thomas Totten
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Thomas Totten

NRA is strangely silent on the bump stock ban. I am very disappointed with the infringement and my NRA being silent on it.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

They advocated for bump stocks being regulated.

Wayne Clark
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Wayne Clark

They said all they needed to say when they put the bug in Trump’s ear about opposing bump stocks. The article mentioned how influential the NRA is about our rights. If this is the influence they push, I don’t want any part of them.

Robert Pollard
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Robert Pollard

Unfortunately, I believe they have been infiltrated with Communists that are trying to suck it dry and tender it useless. That’s how Communists (Democrats) work. I’m done with them. Voting is useless as they rig the system to put in who they want. Sound familiar???

Robert Pollard
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Robert Pollard

Render, not tender. Stupid spell correction.

Steve T Lynch
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Steve T Lynch

I pay over 200 a week in federal taxes, do I wonder where it goes? Compare that to my $25 a year ?, name me a business that doesn’t make a profit ? And I will put my calendar out and show you what day it folds And the NRA has been Under New Management for a while, Oliver North is the president now, oh and by the way, this is fake news, we’re doing just fine and there are plenty of Democrats backing the NRA also.

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

@ Steve T Lynch

“the NRA has been Under New Management for a while, Oliver North is the president now”

The NRA presidency is a honorary title ,the president has no real control of the organization,that falls to the 1 st. executive vice presidents position,currently held by Wayne “chamberlin” La Pierre .

Link
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Link

It’s quite obvious that you dont know jack about the NRA, makes it doubtful you have ever been a member and possibly a anti-gun troll.

Charlie Foxtrot
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Charlie Foxtrot

Col. Oliver North is a figurehead for fund raising. The President of the NRA has no powers. The past President, Pete Brownell, found that out the hard way and left that job disgusted after serving only one out of his two year term. The NRA executive salaries are a matter of public record (https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/530116130). Wayne LaPierre, the Chief Executive of this NONPROFIT organization, usually makes over $1,000,000 a year and has made over $5,000,000 in 2015. No one here will prevent you from donating to the NRA, but know this, the NRA spends about 10% of its revenue on lobbying… Read more »

Charles K. West
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Charles K. West

Totally agree

Todd J Lang
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Todd J Lang

All you gun boys do is whine everything changes, when they wrote the second amendment they were shotting ball and powder, now you have 10 to 100 round magazines. Guns that shoot rounds per second, not rounds per minutes if they were lucky.

Chris
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Chris

By that logic we should do away with the 1st amendment too since so much has changed with our ability to communicate.

E.HAUBER
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E.HAUBER

Research the reason for the 2nd amend…THEN COMMENT.

Marvin Cox
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Marvin Cox

It’s to guarantee states rights what do you think that means

Steve
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Steve

Your statement is factually inaccurate. I urge you to look into the technology of the day, instead of believing what you’re told by people who don’t care if they directly lie to you, if it means you’ll support their agenda. Research, research, research. It’s not a suggestion, it’s a civic requirement if you’re going to engage in a discussion where you’re advocating for your own rights, protected explicitly by the Bill of Rights, to be curtailed or even removed. Despite the rhetoric you hear on TV, this isn’t just another political wedge issue. This is actually important. Please, research.

Link
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Link

And what’s your point ??
They did not have electronics back then either, so should we regress back 200 plus years with your stupidity ??

Rick
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Rick

Perhaps modern medicine should revert to blood letting and leeches.

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

Rick, in certain circumstances, they do use leeches, and even maggots, and I am not talking about Leftist politicians, but “modern” medicine. @Todd, muskets actually could be fired at about 3 rounds per minute, and there were other technologies, that could fire more, examples being multi-ball sequential firing out one musket barrel, multiple barrels, and the famous Girandoni air rifle that had a tube magazine that held 22 .46 caliber lead balls, with muzzle energy comparable to the musket. Lewis and Clark attributed their safety on their famous expedition to demonstrating it to every Indian tribe they met. It was… Read more »

Sho Rembo
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Sho Rembo

Todd J Lang, write that down on parchment paper with quill and ink and send that to us via man on horse.

Charlie Foxtrot
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Charlie Foxtrot

Todd J Lang, your post is about to get deleted and you will get charged with a federal felony, facing a 10-year jail time, as you violated federal guidelines on Internet speech. You see, the Internet wasn’t around when the 1st Amendment was written, so the government can and will censor your Internet content and incarcerate you for violating its arbitrary Internet speech rules. Nobody needs the Internet anyway. We all survived without it before it even existed.

G. S.
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G. S.

Lt Col Allen West

John D Otto
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John D Otto

Perhaps if the NRA hadn’t gotten caught moving $40 million with a Russian spy you wouldn’t be whining about investigations?
The bias in your ‘reporting’ shows as clearly as the motivation for such

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

@ John D Otto My problem with the NRA as a member has nothing to do with that subject but rather their historical betrayal of Americans/members rights since 1934. Continuing to today,perhaps this time line of infringements acceptable to the NRA will cause thought of whether there should be change to protect Americans/member natural 2 A right or continue capitulating them away one by one. History 1791: The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified. The amendment reads: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and… Read more »

Crotalus Maxximus
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Crotalus Maxximus

None of your links are working properly.

Daniel Fruechting
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Daniel Fruechting

Since you mentioned those two Civil War veterans, what was the original stated purpose of the NRA?

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

Daniel, they formed the NRA to train civilian marksmanship and firearm safety, due to the poor shooting skills of Union soldiers.

Marvin Cox
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Marvin Cox

Lol never heard that one

Jay B. Terclinger
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Jay B. Terclinger

They weren’t caught “moving $40 million with a Russian spy”, take your Mueller Comey BS and BIOYA.

eugene hauber
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eugene hauber

You stole those two words right outa my mouth……excelente llent choice.

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

Rather beyond time for change,if Negotiating Rights Away’s true goal is protecting Americans/members second amendment natural rights from infringements.

Greg K
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Greg K

I remember back in the early-mid 90s, CNN, C-span, and other 24 hour news agencies were propagating. Wayne was at the forefront of Congressional Hearings on Gun Rights. One day he was testifying about “Assault Weapons Bans.” During that testimony, Schumer held up an AR in Congress (breaking the law), and Biden was losing the Narrative until after Wayne’s first half of testimony they had a break. Upon coming back from the break, before Wayne could continue, Biden called Wayne out with, “during the break we have it from someone that said, you said, I’m going to get that guy.”… Read more »

Mr. Walkker
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Mr. Walkker

Bingo…we have a winner. Your comments are spot on. The massive mind meld injected into society by Gun Grabbers has been a huge success, Case in point. In WA State, after repeated attempts to destroy the 2nd by the so called “local elected representatives”, starting back in 2013, and then 3 years later when WA. Open Carry (Armed Patriots) went to the Olympia the State Capitol in 2016, serving a cease and desist demand to politicians “To Back Off” of the Gun Grab. That granted Gun Owners a temporary reprieve from the madness. So what did these Gun Grabbing Progressive… Read more »

Greg K
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Greg K

Great comment Mr. W…Here’s one everyone forgot; in the 90s, one of the very first Bills put to Referendum, was the Car Tabs/ Tax flat charge Bill. Gregoire was instrumental in fabricating this interesting piece of legislature. If we would have voted to keep the habitual dithering yearly Tax on car values, then there would have been no change in gun laws. However, in the Flat Tax option there was a Dept. of Licensing Handgun Registry created. Amazingly, if you ask someone that recently bought a Handgun, they probably don’t know their name is associated with it in this state.… Read more »

Grigori
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Grigori

Glad to read something commonsense about the NRA for a change, rather than the poof pieces by that guy who looks like him and David Hogg could be best buds.

I appreciate Mr Knox’s suggestions for replacing LaPierre, something that must be done, but am uneasy about putting a Deep State neocon warmonger like Mattis in there. I know good choices are out there, sonewhere.

Ryan
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Ryan

Fuck NRA we need GOA to take their spot. They have sold us out way too many times to be worthy of respect.

Charles west
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Charles west

This comment is ridiculously funny

Your Worst Nightmare
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Your Worst Nightmare

GOA member numbers are to small to matter to politicians, we need to rehab the NRA mission and leadership.

Thomas Totten
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Thomas Totten

Amen!

Joseph Bowers
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Joseph Bowers

Merge the two organizations. I’m a member of both. I’m only a member of the NRA to belong to my gun range.
GOA has the vision and the balls to get it done

durabo
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durabo

Add JPFO to the merger.

NEVER AGAIN!!!!

Eugene Hauber
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Eugene Hauber

GOA is my go to org.

JMR
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JMR

Burn the NRA to the ground and let the smoldering ashes remind other organizations what happens when they start pushing for gun control.

Your Worst Nightmare
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Your Worst Nightmare

Dum_ fucks like you would rather have us destroy the most powerful civil rights organization to ever exist. Go back to watching MSNBC and let us handle MAGA.

Shaw Eberhardt
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Shaw Eberhardt

The most powerful civil rights organization?

Looks like our rights are screwed then.

Josh
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Josh

If you are going to call someone a dumb fuck, could you manage to spell dumb correctly?

Spartacus
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Spartacus

They WERE the most powerful civil rights org ever. Now they’re sellouts. The facts hurt. Your loyalty is admirable, we’ll talk about it at your funeral.

JMR
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JMR

I would be careful what you call people when you seem to be unable to even spell it.

It is a curious matter when someone who pushes for more freedom and calls out an organization for advocating for less freedom, is called the issue.

You sure are making America great again with NRA backed Red Flag laws, Bumpstock Bans, and now BiPartisan universal background check laws.

Your Worst Nightmare
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Your Worst Nightmare

Time to start purging AmmoLand of all these “second amendment supporters” advocating for the destruction of the NRA. That makes you the enemy. You are just dead wrong and stupid if you think the GOA or SAF, as good a those orgs are, can replace the membership numbers of the NRA. Time to rehab the NRA, not destroy it and give antis what they dream of achieving.

Cabezon Hueca
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Cabezon Hueca

Ironically the NRA has given the antis everything.
Without the NRA we’d will have automatics.

Big Jim
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Big Jim

The NRA ship has been topedoed, will she stay afloat? I think not, too many betrayals. Need new blood desperatley.
Meaner, grittier playing offensively instead of defensively.

JMR
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JMR

Do you think those members, at least the ones who actually care, just go away? Can you not think as an individual? Or do you only care about what the NRA tells you to care about? You were probably excited they got a new overpriced cooler to sell you, while they called for red flag laws and did nothing to stop the bump stock ban. The NRA and the Republicans accomplished more Anti-Gun measures in 3 years then Obama did in 8. Hell under Obama we actually gained rights back, but put in the driver seat the NRA and Tepublicans… Read more »