To NRA or Not to NRA


The Board of Directors must step to the plate and deep clean whatever is rotting or step aside and let someone else get it done.

USA – -( Let me get a couple of things off of my chest before I begin getting a few more things off of my chest. I am not a paid shill for the NRA. Never have been. I do not work for the NRA and have never been on their payroll. They do not dictate one word that has ever come out of my mouth on now 10 years of national radio. They have never asked me to say anything or tow the line for any of their positions. I am merely a member of the NRA and have been for many years. I am not a life member. I am an NRA Certified Instructor in three disciplines and have been for over 20 years.

Having said that, let me get a few more things off of my chest. I have disagreed with the NRA many, many times over the years over many issues and no doubt I will in the future. In fact, I nearly tossed my membership a few years back when the NRA here in the state of GA refused to support the effort to remove the 140-year-old ban on carrying firearms at a “public gathering.” This racist law was put in effect during reconstruction years ago following the civil war to keep recently freed blacks disarmed. It was a heinous law that stood for far too long and over the next century and a half since its inception, saw many good GA citizens of all races hassled and arrested. SB 308 fixed this debacle and rather than assist us here with this bill, the NRA abandoned us in favor of their pet bill SB 291 which removed the governor’s emergency powers to cease firearm and ammunition sales during declared emergencies. It also allowed airport carry in the non-sterile areas of the airports, neither of which was a top priority for GA Weapons Permit holders at that time.

Both bills passed. Governor Perdue, at the time, signed SB 308 removing the phony restrictions on carrying at a “public gathering,” whatever the hell that meant, and vetoed the NRA backed SB 291. Georgia Carry would later go on to work with the House and Senate and pass the same reforms that the NRA sought in SB 291 a couple of years later. Needless to say, SB 308 was wildly popular here in Georgia, and the NRA lost many members over their refusal to work with GCO. Needless to say, I and others were not pleased with their position, and well, we fixed it without their help – but it cost them.

Let’s fast forward to today, or better yet a couple of weeks back when the hit pieces began running about the alleged corruption at the head of the NRA. (Funny how that happens just before every NRA annual convention, huh?) I don’t have enough space here to rehash it, but I really don’t need to.

Here’s the deal, in my humble opinion – The NRA obviously needs some house cleaning in the master bedroom.

If the alleged financial corruption can be proven and crimes were committed, people need to pay for that. The current Board of Directors needs to get damn serious about the direction of this organization and take out the trash, whoever or whatever that is determined to be and they need to do it right now, at this annual meeting. They must figure out a way to get back on track and cut the crap when it comes to the endless fundraising and fear mongering. We’re all well aware of the Bloomberg attacks on our freedoms.

Speaking of that, here come a few more things off of my chest. I’ve seen far too many posts on social media, which to me is a joke anyway, from chatroom warriors that are calling for the destruction of the NRA. As I mentioned above, the shenanigans the NRA played here in Georgia back in 2009, and 2010 nearly cost them my membership. Nearly. That was before I gave it more thought. What good would that do, to leave the NRA because I disagreed with them over this issue? I don’t agree with my wife LOTS of times, but I don’t leave her every time we fight about something, no matter how serious it is. I also don’t take my arguments with her to the front lawn for all of the neighbors to witness.

Look, the NRA needs some work, a ton of work. Read the excellent piece from my friend Jeff Knox here at AmmoLand earlier this week, and God forbid, if some of the leftist hit work over the last few days is correct, it can’t happen soon enough. Here’s why – If you think as, a gun owner, that the implosion and subsequent collapse of the National Rifle Association is a good thing, you’re a damn fool. Especially as we approach an election where every lefty kook running and every leader of the Socialist party formerly known as Democrats has embraced New Zealand’s confiscation of guns as their goal for America. Such an event (collapse of NRA) would hand the worst enemies of our right to bear arms this nation has ever seen, the most massive PR coup in recent American history. Bloomberg and every one of his paid freedom-haters, the hateful socialist Democrat party, and the loony Moms Demand Action bunch among many others, will claim a victory which in turn will set the stage for the imminent destruction of our Second Amendment rights within our lifetimes.

Nothing positive comes from the collapse of the NRA. I hope they are listening. The Board of Directors must step to the plate and deep clean whatever is rotting or step aside and let someone else get it done.


About Mark WaltersMark Walters

Mark Walters is the host of two nationally syndicated radio broadcasts, Armed American Radio and Armed American Radio’s Daily Defense with Mark Walters. He is the Second Amendment Foundations 2015 Gun Rights Defender of the Year award recipient and co-author of two books, Lessons from Armed America with Kathy Jackson (Whitefeather Press) and Lessons from UnArmed America with Rob Pincus (Whitefeather Press)

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I have been a member of the NRA since Obama was elected, and then stopped. But upon encouragement from a couple of the gun writers whom I respect, I rejoined, a couple years back. And I plan on remaining a member. I also joined the GOA, simply because they are a non compromising group who always seem to be one the front of the issues instead of the back end like the NRA is. But the NRA has a much larger membership, and so I want to add my name to their numbers to allow them to increase the numbers… Read more »

Pipers' Colt

I have been a member of the NRA since 1993 and my renewal is due 2023, if I am still alive. I too am disappointed in the lack of gun rights support from them. Red flag laws should never have seen the light of day had the NRA done its job of protecting and promoting our gun rights. I am also a member of SAF and GOA because they make enough noise to keep a few congressmen on their toes. Sure they lack the influence and fear that is the NRA, but like others have said, their presence is all… Read more »


Mark Walters IS connected because he is an instructor. I am a paying member, but maybe not after August. They have screwed over the membership time an time again and still continue to do so. I am not the only one to feel like it has been shoved in my face and they dance on my dime. Sorry, I never have been a chump or let the bully take my lunch money and I am not going to start now. There are a number of comments on this that mirror what Walters says, that the NRA does more for the… Read more »

The Revelator

@ Mark Walters Let me clear something up for you.. [Quote] “Speaking of that, here come a few more things off of my chest. I’ve seen far too many posts on social media, which to me is a joke anyway, from chatroom warriors that are calling for the destruction of the NRA. As I mentioned above, the shenanigans the NRA played here in Georgia back in 2009, and 2010 nearly cost them my membership. Nearly. That was before I gave it more thought. What good would that do, to leave the NRA because I disagreed with them over this issue?”… Read more »


Nra lost my support few years back,red flag and now bumpstocks,best i remember they kinda begged d.j.trump to bann them.


What the NRA and most people don’t realize is that once LaPierre and his toadies are gone, the membership will see a marked increase. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of gun owners out there who have been alienated by the fiasco that is Wayne LaPierre, and as soon as he and his minions are gone (hopefully without his golden parachute), the NRA can begin to heal and get back on track.

Wild Bill

@JPM, LaPiere, Hammer, et al. have turned the NRA into their personal cash flow machine. They would never have found such high paying jobs, elsewhere. They will not let go of their golden goose until it is dead.
They had eighty years to get repeal the NFA, and did not even try. They have had almost fifty years to repeal the GCA, and have not even tried. The recent gun parts sell out. Need I go on?


The Bump stock ban.. an NRA compromise
The red flag NRA idea

Daniel Wiberg

I know the NRA sees these posts. NRA I stopped supporting you when you started selling out our Second Amendment right a little at a time over the years. Until you start supporting our right and bringing it all back you will not get another penny of support. How can you tell when the NRA sells out? When they support a “Bump Stock Ban” after one MIGHT have been used in a crime they cannot tells why it happened. (FBI WEAPONS STING GONE WRONG) When they cannot prove it was even used to kill anyone and yet NRA supported criminalizing… Read more »


I agree. Myself and both of my sons are life members. I do not believe some wealthy idiot used a bump stock alone in vegas. Probably like kennedy your children will read the true story. The NRA has done a lot of moderate politicking over the years. They have done some good stuff like Eddy the Eagle and training anyone who wanted it but the top seems to be crooked and if the crooks in ny can prove them guilty so be it.

Green Mtn. Boy

I am the NRA however I choose not to give one penny as as long as the current miscreants are running Negotiating Rights Away,Drain the NRA top to bottom.

Ton E

I’m a lifetime member the only reason I haven’t trashed my membership is because I still want have something resembling a voice especially when a board of directors election takes place. But whenever I get a call from the NRA for a survey or to solicit money from me I tell them I’m not giving another red cent until they start to listen to members like myself because I can’t sign off on their recent actions.


Same here. Seems to be the general tone of members. NRA is as bad as our government. They just want the tax without representation.


As a senior citizen, a Marine combat vet, a retired LE Officer who spent 19 of my 30 years as a Use of force and Firearms Instructor, I’m not a stranger to guns or violence. I am neither a Rep. or a Dem. I am pretty much a middle of the road person who is pro 2nd Amendment but not to the point of saying everyone should have anything they want for a weapon. I was appalled when I returned from Vietnam and saw AR-15’s being sold to civilians. These civilians were to me, the ones who wanted to “play”… Read more »


Middle of the road my ass-never-trumper RINO is what I see. I’ve heard a lot of lies ABOUT Trump; what’s HE lied about,. honestly?
Government was corrupt long before he showed up.


This is not a pro or anti-NRA battle. Remember the words of our Founding Fathers, “We might as well hang together for we will surely hang separately”. Once the NRA goes, all the other smaller organizations will be picked off, one by one. As each goes the next will become the anti-gunners new boogeyman. Enough of the infighting over gunners vs. fudds! We must stand together, clean house at the NRA and unite the disparate pro-gun organizations into one voice and political weapon.


” On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823 This is one of our founding fathers as well. But modern politicians don’t see the world the same way. That’s why the NRA needs to stop the “damage control” tactics. These… Read more »

Tom Davis

Well said Mr. Walters. Thanks for clearly stating many of the things that have been on my mind throughout this whole ordeal. Cleaning house is never fun (unless you’re my dear wife) but in is so very necessary to get the dirt taken care of. Let the dust fly and may the best/good men survive and serve this organization with truth, integrity, honor and humility.

Wild Bill

This just in, minutes ago: Wayne LaPierre claims to the NRA Board that NRA President Oliver North is pressuring LaPierre to resign because if LaPierre’s financial improprieties! Could this be the beginning of the end of LaPierre’s lock on the NRA as his personal cash cow?
Could the NRA become the Second Amendment Civil Rights powerhouse that it has the potential to be?

Charlie Foxtrot

Wayne LaPierre’s letter, stating his version of events:


Thanks for linking to that letter. I’m an NRA Benefactor member, and I’m really disturbed by this turn of events. I honestly don’t know whether I should believe Mr. LaPierre, or Col. North. I’d like to see ALL the facts (and even the allegations) come out. Air the dirty laundry. Excise the cancer, and NRA will not only survive but grow, and thereby grow stronger. While I respect both men, no one person is that important in the grand scheme of things. I’m starting to think that Mr. LaPierre has come to look upon his position as a sinecure, and… Read more »

Will Flatt

Yet another NRA apologist heard from. If the NRA cannot clean up its act, it deserves to go away, and GOA will pick up the mantle and carry on as the nation’s preeminent gun rights group. If that should come to pass, everyone who’s NOT a dyed-in-the-wool FUDD will need to man up, join GOA (or FPC) and start donating. Only by working from a position of unity and strength can we beat the gun-haters and undo the many sins of the NRA!

Start NOW by visiting GOA at

Anthony Kueber

Exactly! Defenders of the Second Amendment will choose which gun-rights organization will be successful by their support. I choose Gun Owners of America.

(I renewed my membership there along with a healthy donation yesterday)


Only when they get their straight.


I gave up on the NRA years ago. They’ve been selling us out for decades, starting in the 1930s. I joined GOA!

Jeff C

You should join them. And the Secand Amendment Foundation and the Firearm Policy Coalition and your state’s firearm group and any other state’s (including and especially Calguns). Joining these groups is not mutually exclusive of the NRA.


I also do not agree with everything the NRA does. Nevertheless, I support them with my membership and have it set up for auto-renew. I support them from time to time with other donations. I have NRA decals on my vehicles. I wear NRA hats and T shirts. The big guy on the block will always attract descent but I will tell you the others could not do any better and there would be complaints loud and strong against them also.

Will Flatt

It’s precisely that sort of thinking that keeps the NRA picking your pockets with your consent, not having to produce results! One should NOT be joining a GUN RIGHTS group for the swag, the periodical, or the apparel. A gun rights organization’s FIRST PRIORITY should be the EFFECTIVE and COST-EFFICIENT defense of the 2nd Amendment! If GOA ends up becoming the next big boy on the block, I can guaran-damn-tee that they will not be like the NRA, they will not Negotiate our Rights Away but rather Guarantee Our 2A. GOA is not a gaggle of fudds! GOA will not… Read more »


SPOT ON as usual Mark.

Comrade X

“Nothing positive comes from the collapse of the NRA. I hope they are listening. The Board of Directors must step to the plate and deep clean whatever is rotting or step aside and let someone else get it done.



Jack Mac

You are right. We do not need members on the board that is working against us.


The NRA is no longer about Firearms Rights it is now a “Conservative Advocacy Orginization; Unless it returns to its core mission then it is about promoting poltical ideology and not defnding our Constituional Right!


Selling ” FEAR ” of anti-gunners or the collapse of N.R.A. will not work to keep members. Those who say ” Keep Supporting N.R.A. ” after countless times they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory are ” DAMMED FOOLS ” .
Corrupt and compromised from within is no way to go through life son.

They CAN be replaced !
They SHOULD be replaced !
They WILL be replaced !

Jack Mac



Talk about a circular firing squad! When the NRA goes under so does the 2nd Amendment. David (Camera) Hogg & his merry band of gun haters don’t even have the GOA on there radar. The MSM and the Democrat Swamp Donkeys also have no concern about any other 2A organization besides the NRA. I agree that they (NRA) have problem & are by no means the fighters I want them to be but when those who need them the most can’t understand the greater good the outlook becomes very bleak indeed for our cherished freedom. I’ve held my nose many… Read more »

The Revelator

@Tyler “We should do everything we can to fix what is wrong but if you own a gun & aren’t a NRA member, then you are an enemy of the 2A because that is what they’ve been working on for many, many years.” So the people you are trying to claim as enemies of the Second Amendment, the people who are actually saying “I will not pay the NRA to continually compromise and try to trade my liberties away”, the people who are far more knowledgeable and principled on defending the Second Amendment than you, those are the people you… Read more »

Jack Mac

I agree with what you say except the part about gun owning non-members being the enemy. I would like for you to re-think that.

The Revelator

@laughing Jack Mac You may want to re read my comment, and that of the original poster. I specifically stated that gun owning non members are not enemies.. That is if you are replying to me. It was the original poster, Tyler, who made the claim that those of us who have left the NRA or wont join because of the NRA’s hijinks to pass watered down gun control efforts in the name of “Compromise” are Enemies, a claim which I threw back at him for the nonsense that it is. Please read comments carefully before responding, or make sure… Read more »


Hey thanks for the tip terrorist. Now GOA is in my radar. N.R.A. first, GOA next. I hope when you fat, old white idiots die off, these fund raising organizations die off with you. Y’all doing a great job of making yourselves irrelevant anyway.

Good job lining Ollie North’s pockets, suckers.


I’m an NRA Voting Life member, and I’m not a bandwagon fan. LaPiere and Others have run NRA into the red: that needs to change. Salaries need to realistic and no one should have that much influence and power over the NRA. All the NRA members are what makes NRA great. Lets make NRA great again! If you’re not an NRA voting member, you probably don’t have much to say in this matter: because you’re not voting???. So dole out life membership dues and feel free to chime in. I see a lot of people who are not voting members,… Read more »


Anybody making 5 mill a year on my dime makes me wonder. I think some changes are in order. I have been a life member for over 50 years and have seen and heard many arguments over the years. Let’s get our sh-t together for America’s and freedom’s sake and stop this name calling crap. There is NO reason anyone, including pro athletes, should make this kind of money.

Dennis Hannick

The NRA-ILA has become arrogant in its mission to defend the 2nd Amendment. It sees itself as the “only one” and will not even acknowledge that other organizations are in the fight, lest they siphon off some of the funds that the NRA believes is their due. The NRA will tell us what laws are best and we are to sit there and cheer them on. Mostly when the NRA gets involved in the state or local level, it rarely does so in cooperation with the state gun organizations. When it does, it rides rough-shod telling the yokels what is… Read more »


I am a NRA member. I support and believe in the mission of other gun rights organizations, and want to see them grow into mature associations which can and will apply pressure, and vehemently defend the inalienable rights of law-abiding gun owners; the Constitution of the United States of America; the 1st and 2nd Amendments (especially); and to exercise legal juris prudence to stop those who would do harm and act in disregard to the above mentioned. With that being said, I recognize that, despite the malignancies and corruption that exist within the NRA, it. is the ONLY organization/association in… Read more »


NRA is #1 protector of our 2A rights. The rest are all wanna bees with zero record of effective and deliberate advocacy. No NRA is not perfect, but it is heads and shoulders above any other civil rights org on earth, bar none.


TOE the line


Most of our fellow citizens are clueless. They think a “homophone” is a communication line at a gay bar.

Ken C.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. PERIOD

I’m a NRA Member but being behind enemy lines in Kommieforniastan, I support CalGuns Foundation, they actually do something for this state and Firearms Policy Coalition.


I am Life member of the NRA. Sadly they have lost their way and what they are supposed to be fighting for. In the early 2000’s the NRA abandoned NJ, and the NJARPC became its afiliate. I’m not trashing the NJARPC. Why that was done, don’t know. In that time early 2000’s and on the only mail I had received from the NRA was for upgrading my membership, nothing about what was happening in NJ with anti gun bills. They have lost their way and it’s hurting them. Wayne Lapierre, Chris Cox and others need to go. Need people on… Read more »

James Brigham (Bigg) Bunyon

I’ve been an NRA member off and on for decades; continuous for the last 15 years. I’ve given memberships to my wife, kids and grand kids. But there comes a time when I have to ask myrself is what I’m paying to support the best use of my money. And I’ve slowly and begrudgingly come to the conclusion I no longer feel the NRA is acting in my best interest or using my money wisely. When NRA memberships I’ve paid for time out in a couple of years, there will be no renewals from me unless things change drastically within… Read more »


Your a continuous member for 15 years and you drop your membership, you void you rights and eliminate your participation in reforming the organization.

James Brigham (Bigg) Bunyon

So? What’s your point? I’m doing so because I believe the NRA is a lost cause not worth “reforming”. As a matter of free choice, I choose to support those whom I feel better support me. If you want to go down with the ship because of some false sense of right and wrong … have at it.

Gas Block in WA

The NRA is dead to us. They will never get another penny after screwing over its members for so long.

Robert Koehler

That’s exactly the sorry attitude and foolish actions Mark Walters is speaking out against.


How many large corporations have as big a board of directors as the NRA? Zero. By having a huge board, the leaders can dilute the effectiveness of anyone who wants to make changes. Plus, how many members actually study the profiles? Many folks just don’t vote, or vote for the ‘recommended” candidates. The net effect is that all power is concentrated in the NRA leadership, with little to no interference by the BOD. Therefore, the shortfalls ride squarely on the shoulders of its leadership. There are a lot of problems to be resolved, particularly the sweetheart deals for retirement for… Read more »


Have to agree that the leadership needs an overhaul. They have become the FUDDS themselves. I have hedged my bets with joining the SAF & GOA.


NRA upper deck have, by their own doings, lost the confidence of the membership. The BOD equally has failed the membership. Any organization which believes it is to big to fail no matter what it does will get a stark reminder, lose the confidence of your membership, watch your cash cow dwindle. As a member, someone who has experience in running an organization of this size and who believe the 2nd Amendment tolerates no infringement, needs to be brought in and clean house of those who brought this mess upon the membership, all the while padding their pockets. Shameful! If… Read more »

Mike OHare

I don’t think the board actually has a function since it appears they do actually do any work. The heads of the NRA are almost as toxic as the Politicians they work with. At this point the NRA needs a deep cleaning from the Top down. No one getting a salary should be earning more than 170k per year. Donations and membership dues are better spent towards policy fights and education that’s Pro 2A. Right now all I see is waste. I’m a life member in case you don’t like my opinion. I believe in the good that could come… Read more »


Did you mean to write, “I don’t think the board actually has a function since it appears they do NOT actually do any work”?


I suggest that we set the maximum annual compensation for any NRA board member to be equal to the salary of a United States Senator – currently a very generous $174,000.


I’m a life member, have been since 1972, and until now a supporter of whatever came down the street. But that has ended and I will not give them one more Lincoln until this fiasco is cleared up and and the org gets back Kroger supporting the 2A instead of supporting themselves. They think they can be “union mob bosses” but what they forgot is that dues are not mandatory or automatically paid. Clean up your house NRA.

H Dean Hendricks

I am an NRA member and will always remain one. Our 2A rights would be gone already if they weren’t out there fighting. We need to elect men & women that put God first in their lives. If they don’t follow the basic rules God has laid down for us then how do you expect them to follow the rules of this corrupt world? Drain the swamp.

Concerned NRA Life Member

I totally agree. I hope the BOD takes action.


I am a Annual Member of GOA, and a Life Member of the NRA (since `78). I upgraded a couple of years ago to Patron Life. I wish now I would have used that $350 towards a Life Membership to the GOA.


don’t worry the NRA has too many good members to not drag the sinking boat on the beach.

Dave T

I would prefer to see NRA fix itself. In the mean time I think SAF and GPC will see my extra money


And since you refused to ditch them they endorsed an avowed gun grabber for governor of Georgia, because he punished someone for taking money from the NRA once, over actual 2A supporter Kemp.

Yeah, I think plenty good can come from the NRA’s collapse

Charlie Foxtrot

Agreed!!! Let’s hope that the NRA Board of Directors listens.

Mr. Walkker

Good article. Thought provoking. Tools in the Box. Change must be brought forward at the Board level, in order to steer the NRA ship and pump the bilges. It appears as if the NRA is taking on “WATER” . Obvious and apparent, yes they do have issues like most large organizations. Considering all dynamics before us,we try to envision a Nation without the NRA, and what we see looks very dismal. GOA is an effective organization as well as others. We tend to view them all, as a TOOL of sorts. The NRA is made of people and most good… Read more »

Dubi Loo

Well said Mark!


I will be genuinely shocked if anything happens. Let alone anything positive happens that would lead the NRA to actually care and fight to protect more than their fudd base. The people in the high tower are too corrupt to let go and the people who should have the power to put a stop to it are either powerless or complicit.


There is a choice for gun owners. Sure NRA has done some stupid things but looking at the big picture, it is still a major force that not only fights for gun ownership but also is instrumental in continuing programs that introduce new shooters, young and old to the sport. They assist in training our LE and military. SO many things that the other gun groups can’t and don’t do. These latest efforts by those who call for the demise of the NRA can only be explained by again, not seeing the big picture or perhaps those who mask themselves… Read more »

Mark K

I’ve gone to 3 of the last 5 Conventions. That said, I’m not going this year. Instead I’m going to work the weekend and make more money to help support the NRA. Bitch all you want, but they’re the best we got. GOA has turned out to be a disappointment and I’m not sending them any more money. The real question is….how many of you get off your opinions on this thread and other anti NRA threads and contact your Senators and Representatives and let them know that they must take their oath of office seriously? How many of you… Read more »


Well said


I hear you, but my Senators are Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell.
The chances of inducing any form of sanity in those two is effectively zero. Actually, less than zero because even the attempt would likely put me some list of troublemakers who must be subjected to additional scrutiny.


Maybe the NRA can make some of that money back by selling ” Take the guns first and follow due process later” Trump 2020 re-election bumper stickers, to the Trump sheep?


Who you gonna vote for ? Kamala Harris?


Certainly not for a pro police state anti Constitution gun grabber,


just don’t vote and see how that goes for you