TSA finds 2 Magazines in stuffed Toy, the Week Before Thanksgiving

TSA finds 2 Magazines in stuffed Toy, the Week Before Thanksgiving
TSA finds 2 Magazines in stuffed Toy, the Week Before Thanksgiving

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- During the week of November 4-15, The Transportation Security Administration found two magazines in a stuffed toy which was being handled as a carry-on, at Orlando International Airport.

The magazines did not have any ammunition associated with them. They fell under the ban on “gun parts” in carry-on luggage.

TSA reports local police were called and confiscated the magazines. It is not clear that is what happened.

USAtoday.com reports the Orlando Police Department sent them an email saying no police action was taken, as no crime was committed.

The theory behind “no gun parts” is probably the potential for guns to be disassembled, carried piecemeal by confederates, then reassembled once beyond the security checkpoint.

The motivation for the magazines in the stuffed toy may have been simple economics.  It is not clear what model of magazines are in the picture. They probably have a retail price of $20-$30 each. Many airlines charge extra for checked luggage. It is common to see charges of $25 for each leg of the trip, sometimes for each airline, both going to a destination and returning. $50-$100 extra for a piece of checked luggage are charged regularly.

People routinely attempt to avoid the charges by taking the largest carryon bags they can get away with.

The owner of the magazines may have thought it cheaper take them on board, and risk confiscation, than pay the extra charges for a checked bag.

In the same week, TSA found 205 firearms in checked bags. Of those, 176 had loaded magazines and/or loaded chambers. 72 had a round in the chamber.

During the same period, 31.7 million passengers were screened. The TSA found one firearm in checked baggage for every 154 thousand passengers.

When you consider that over 7% of adults in the United States have carry permits, you realize how amazingly law abiding, or simply prudent, airline passengers in the United States are.

Nearly all of the guns discovered in carryon baggage are simple errors made by passengers who are in a hurry, did not check the bag carefully before going on the trip, or where someone else made an error. Do something often enough; have enough people do it, and errors will be made.

I once carried a full box of .22 rimfire ammunition through security and on to the next destination, before discovering that it had been in a computer bag. Humans make errors. The only people who do not make errors are those who never do anything.

One of the rare exceptions was a woman who TSA found had a firearm concealed “in her chest area”. It was shown as a Berreta model 21. There was no round chambered, and the cartridges were reported to have been loaded into the magazine backwards.

As bearing arms is a right protected by the Constitution of the United States, and as the federal government forbids the carry of arms on commercial aircraft, except in checked baggage; the government has a responsibility not to chill the exercise of Second Amendment rights.

The charge of additional fees for checked bags directly chills the exercise of Second Amendment rights.

Perhaps the regulations should be changed, to forbid the charge of extra fees if the checked bag contains arms protected by the Second Amendment.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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American Patriot
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American Patriot

I guess that could be Murder by magazine……and not playboy!
Damn the plastics industry!

Finnky
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Finnky

@Dean – Have you looked at statistics on how many of those firearms which TSA finds are on connecting or return flights? My understanding is that majority of firearms found were on passengers who were either going through security between connecting flights or on flights returning from somewhere they had previously flown to. For return trips it is possible that the passengers had checked firearms on outbound leg, but forgot on return, however I suspect that the majority had gotten through security on with that same firearm on outbound legs. For connecting flights it is extremely unlikely that someone retrieved… Read more »

Tionico
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Tionico

MAGAZINES are not GUN PARTS they are ACCESSORIES. It is a nuisance but I can fire my guns with no magazine in them. I can draw the slide, feed another round, and fire again. A magazine is NOT a disabling part of a gun. Not like a barrel, slide, trigger, spring….. My guess is that the guy had them, wanted to have them at destination, onl had carry on, slid them into something and figured he’d taken care of the problem. No lawbreaking intended. WE who know guns relaise that an empty mag is not even as useful as a… Read more »

tomcat1483
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tomcat1483

One magazine is a gun part. Additional magazines are accessories. You really think people should load bullets into the chamber one at a time?

Tionico
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Tionico

Great point about chcked bag fees for we who bring our arms. Wanting to be able to make use of my personal protetion device after I arrive at my destination, I am often forced into checking a bag. I would not otherwise. It would be an investment in the system, but I’ve often thought that a method of using a secure metal container, for which I would have a key as well as the airine, at checkin I would simply remove my holstered handgun, and spare bags., backup ammunition, place them in any condition I wish into that safe, which… Read more »

MikeRoss
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MikeRoss

Empty magazines? So what? Some TSA goon stole a couple mags is what happened.

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

I was inclined to say “SO WHAT”? Referring to the column title. LOL!

Cruiser
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Cruiser

I only fly if I absolutely have to. I won’t take a firearm with me, simply because I don’t trust baggage handlers. From what I’ve seen, some TSA’s are heavy badged mall cops.

Finnky
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Finnky

@Cruiser – Some? Looks to me like the vast majority. My understanding is that they have no law enforcement authority (arrest!) – only have power to convey denial of entry to the airport. If one were to push past them, it is trespassing and police will be called to arrest you but TSA cannot legally detain you. That does not stop them, as they have placed a friend of mine in shackles before calling police – who freed him and became customers of his for transfers (FFL). Have to wonder whether he could have sued them for wrongful imprisonment, but… Read more »

JPM
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JPM

That is about maximum for the efforts of TSA in the last 10 years. Over 400 TSA agents have been arrested and prosecuted for theft of property since their creation and not one single terrorist has been stopped by them in their entire history. They are responsible for flight delays, missed flights, physical abuse of passengers, false charges, failed purpose and a waste of taxpayers’ money with NO positive results for the costs.

Tom Claycomb
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JPM-totally agree and anyone that flies frequently will too.

rotten-ron
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rotten-ron

A waste of time, waste of man-hours standing in line, and waste of taxpayer’s money. Who says the 9-11 terrorists didn’t win?

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

And forget about that TSA-Pre, my wife or I get an “enhanced” screening about half the time. Prior to getting Pre, that rarely happened. Paid extra just to get a more, literally, hands-on screening process.

BigJim
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BigJim

Obviously a prank job designed to cause problems by an anti-freedom activist.

MICHAEL J
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MICHAEL J

After 911 the question was “Are you willing to sacrifice some rights to be safe?” But like typical government, their ability to manage anything well has it’s ramifications. A gun without ammunition or ammunition without a gun makes no difference to TSA since it’s a zero tolerance zone. Hollywood has created the illusion that when it comes to sneaking anything past security, anything is possible. Airport security has done a remarkable job making air travel safer but traveling by air is a restriction in itself. If you have anything firearms related it’s best to think for yourself than to have… Read more »

Will Flatt
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ALL gun laws are INFRINGEMENTS!!

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

They don’t CARE! We don’t do anything and that makes it worse.

USA
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USA

The communist courts agree and yet they continue to violate rights because Americans are stupid enough to challenge individual rules instead of every rule in lump sum at the same time. Attorneys have us fooled into continuing to pad their pocket books while they sell us out every day in court. Why else would we continue attempting to purchase new rulings when we already have them and fail to enforce them. Why get knew rulings if we discard them once we have them. Marbury vs Madison (1803) : “All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.”… Read more »

jack mac
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jack mac

Gun laws are more than infringements, they are acts of oppression.

USA
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USA

Jack, Infringing upon ones self defense is crimes against humanity.

Will
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Will

Dean says,..paraphrasing,.I once carried a full box .22 LR Ammo through secure airport accidentally,…..humans make errors,….Theres not a damn thing wrong with what Dean described intentionally or by accident ! Total bullshit !!

USA
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USA

Ive seen those before, they are PEZ dispensers and perfectly legal.

jack mac
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jack mac

I guess that is why the caliber and make was not reported.

USA
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USA

jack, That would be Green, Yellow, Red, 32 cal victory flavored PEZ dispensers.

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

Alternatively, given the ability of TSA to pass its own tests for finding contraband, perhaps TSA, BATFE and a number of other agencies should be disbanded and the laws pertaining to weapons of any sort should be scrapped. THAT would comply with Marbury v Madison.

USA
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USA

“that a law repugnant to the constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.”
https://www.britannica.com/event/Marbury-v-Madison/Impact

Vanns40
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Vanns40

However, that would also require common sense and a willingness to acknowledge individual’s inherent Rights, something Liberals are loathe to do.

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

Stop calling COMMUNISTS liberals!

USA
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USA

CL, It’s the Kool-Aid, it has a death grip on far too many posters.