Bill to Allow Gun Destruction Advances in Washington State

Washington State Capitol building, Olympia.

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- 27 years ago, Washington state passed a bill requiring the Washington State Police to sell valuable firearms rather than destroying them. Provisions were made for the destruction of firearms which could not be legally owned.

For political reasons, local law enforcement agencies were not included. In some of those jurisdictions, such as the Yakima Police Department and Vancouver Police department, all guns are destroyed for political reasons.

A bill to allow the State Police to destroy legal guns passed the House in the Washington state legislature on 23 January 2020.

Selling or not selling the guns has no effect on the availability of guns because the guns are sold through licensed dealers.  They are simply another gun in a dealer's stock.  Destroying guns that have ended up in police hands simply means the money goes to a gun manufacturer to produce another gun, instead of to the police.

The Bill, HB1010, passed in the House 56 to 42, on a partisan vote. From columbian.com:

The House passed the bill along party lines Jan. 23, with Democrats voting in favor and Republicans against. Its next stop is the Senate Rules Committee and then a floor vote.

Rep. Sharon Wylie, D-Vancouver, cosponsored the bill. Wylie said it seems like an oversight that state patrol is unable to destroy firearms, and it makes sense to change the law to have consistency.

The Washington State Patrol wants the bill to pass, and its intended changes are needed, communications director Chris Loftis said.

“Current law allows other law enforcement agencies the option to destroy but is strict with WSP, stating that we must keep them for agency use or auction/trade with licensed dealers, who then will sell them to the public,” Loftis said in an email.

About a dozen states have passed legislation requiring police to sell legal guns rather than destroy valuable assets.

Opponents of police selling guns do not have a logical reason for the police to destroy guns rather than sell them. They acknowledge very few guns sold by police end up being used in a crime.

The arguments to destroy the guns are all emotional. Some police say they would feel bad if they sold a gun and it were used in a crime. The most egregious use of a gun sold by police, in a widely distributed AP article, was by a prohibited possessor who purchased a pistol in a private sale, years after it was sold by police to a dealer. The prohibited possessor used it to commit suicide.

The arguments are all about the legitimacy of gun ownership. If guns are legitimate to own, selling guns surplus to police use makes perfect sense.

If you believe guns are bad, selling them is an immoral act.

The point of destroying valuable guns is one of making a moral statement, of proclaiming to the world that guns are evil and should be destroyed.

If you do not own guns and despise those people who do, this is a way of telling the world you have won a victory. It does not matter if the gun companies increase their profits through your actions.

Destroying valuable guns is political theater, designed to teach people that guns are bad.

Emotional political theater is seldom a good policy.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Arny
Arny
4 months ago

What amazes me is how these same people will sell weapons around the world that kill millions From their proxy wars. So shouldn’t we insist on our Govt. quit selling these weapons of MASS destruction, weapons of war ? Why are they allowed to sell all the firearms & nukes they wish ? Do these people not work for us ? After all just SAVING one life is worth it, we’re told. I for one didn’t give them permission to sell anything around the world. I’m curious as to why we have let this go on so long ? But… Read more »

mgkdrgn
4 months ago

“Destroying guns that have ended up in police hands simply means the money goes to a gun manufacturer to produce another gun, instead of to the police.”

Um, what? Who pays S&W when a 686 is destroyed?

OneEyeOpen
OneEyeOpen
4 months ago

There’s more coming down the pike. Today in WA., it gets voted to reduce the magazine capacity to 15 rounds, with some type of buy-back for the larger magazines. Good luck with that. If it becomes illegal to have larger than a 15 round magazine, than they will create thousands of “NEW CRIMINALS” out of law abiding, salt-of -the-earth folks. If you want 30 rounds, just get another weapon and 2-15 rounds makes a 30 round. Do the math. If a pistol has the same round count as a rifle and you want more, is it not easier to just… Read more »

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  OneEyeOpen

There are a couple of reasons gun owners don’t unite. Many don’t vote at all. Most elections are about more than one thing and they have to decide based not just on firearms.

PMinFl
PMinFl
4 months ago

I think you’re nuts, USA, all of your posts reveal your instability.

OneEyeOpen
OneEyeOpen
4 months ago

Why were the infected moved to different areas around the US? 4 were sent to Spokane, WA and not Seattle, WHY? To make sure this “new virus” gets distributed evenly. Have they found an easier way to decrease the surface population? Seeing how over 7 billion people are using up the resources, faster than they can be replenished. Good luck to you younger kids who have cared less about the problems facing our every day lives and had more concern for their IPhone battery running dead. . ..

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago
Reply to  OneEyeOpen

@OEO, It has to do with the type of care available at the hospital. Ordinary hospital care is insufficient.
If our government wanted to spread the virus, the government would have just released them all to the street.

Whatzit
Whatzit
4 months ago

Sure the guns are destroyed.. Right. All of them – minus any cool ones that “law enforcement” skims off for their personal collections, that is.

StWayne
StWayne
4 months ago

The problem with America is that there is too much bureaucracy. Every time a little group of snivelers get together to complain about this or that, and some politician says to him or herself that coddling them is a sure way to keep them in office by garnering their votes, well, welcome to the beginnings of too much bureaucracy. Instill term limits by guaranteeing those running for office to 12 years of service once elected (so long as they don’t get impeached for other types of crimes or misdemeanors,) and all this goes away because you have changed the rules… Read more »

Tionico
Tionico
4 months ago

Yacov, you are SO igggerunt….. the guns in question are not things the police go out looking for. They are the ones that, thorugh any of several means, come into the costucy of police. An armed robber earns his toe tag, and his piece is picked up by the locals. First thing they do, ALWAYS is to run the S/N to see if it is stolen. Yes, they DO have lists of numbers of guns reported stolen. If so, once they are done with it for use as evidenc,e etc, they will return it to the rigthful owner if he… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

OV, Yackoff will not be around long because the medical supply chain for STD drugs from China has been interrupted. His survival essential drugs are not coming.

Deusvult
Deusvult
4 months ago

A lot of LEO’S I associate with at times add that confiscated weapon to their own collection if it’s nice enough.
Destroying it serves zero purpose other than feel good BS..
Keep it or sell it to help fund your department….

Jeffersonian
4 months ago

“Law enforcement supports the Second Amendment”?

Rock
Rock
4 months ago

Keep the guns, destroy the leftists….

gregs
gregs
4 months ago

leftists who always want more money, don’t want the money from the sale of firearms in leo’s possession. this is another example that leftists are mentally unstable and should not be able to hold office and make decisions that affect law-abiding citizens.

Superman
Superman
4 months ago

You want the police defunded until YOU hear a bump in the night and your fat azz can’t reach the phone fast enough to call 911. Typical punk.

Deusvult
Deusvult
4 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Wow, how mature of you…Hard to respect anyone with comments like that!

Superman
Superman
4 months ago

Do you wear you tinfoil hat with the shiny side inside or outside?

Superman
Superman
4 months ago

That belief is total fiction. But thanks for playing.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago

@OV, Anywhere that people group up and one of them sneezes!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago

@OV, Viral.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago

@USA, What makes you think that the government is buying up more food than usual?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago

@USA, What part of the US government? Why would the US government send infected people to major cities to spread the virus? Since when have major retailers cooperated with government? Did you confirm any of this with personal contacts?
The MSM hates the Trump administration. If any of that were true the MSM would be screaming bloody murder?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
3 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

@OV, Raining like Noah’s own flood, here. Gas $1.69. No TP at Brookshires. People still courteous in the Texas tradition. How about your neck of the woods?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago

@USA, Funny that you would say, “Avoid them LIKE the plague.” It is a plague!