Democratic Debate Groupthink Drinks From Same Frozen Ideas

Opinion By Larry Keane

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USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- Call it gun control brain freeze. The Democratic presidential candidates pained themselves into contortions on the New Hampshire debate stage last week in what was clearly symptomatic of sucking on the straw of the same ice-cold talking point concoctions.

It hurts the head just thinking about it.

Democratic candidates were finally forced to take questions on their plans for gun control. None of the answers were original and offered only ignorance of facts, vilification and double-speak. It would have been preferable to have a carnival barker at the far end of the stage shouting out the answers for them. Except they did it themselves, harping for a ban on modern sporting rifles, continuing to conflate the semiautomatic rifle with the military’s M-16.

Sen. Sanders Changing Views on Rights

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) took the first question about how he was once pro- but is now anti-gun and how did he reconcile his conversion. Sen. Sanders’ answer was simple.

“The world has changed,” he said.

Sen. Sanders explained that law-abiding Americans should be forced to surrender fundamental rights over crimes committed by individuals. Sen. Sanders argued that since he and other gun control advocates can’t bring themselves to hold the actual criminals responsible for the crimes they commit, then the rights of all Americans aren’t worthy of Constitutional protections. They should be altered, chipped away and rewritten to match popular moods. This, of course, doesn’t make them rights at all, but privileges granted by a ruling mob, only to be yanked when the winds shift and the group thinks differently.

On Sen. Sanders’ list of changes, he said he’d end the “straw man provision.” Sen. Sanders should already know that lying on a background check form by stating the firearm is for you when it is really for someone else is already a felony punishable with a $250,000 fine and 10 years in prison. The National Shooting Sports Foundation has partnered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) for 20 years to educate retailers and warn the public of this danger through the Don’t Lie for the Other GuyTM program.

Former VP Biden: Sue the Industry

Former Vice President Joe Biden tried to burnish his credentials as being a “middle ground” guy by saying he was from a “major gun-owning state,” without clarifying if that was Pennsylvania, where Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf is calling for more gun control even as he slashes budgets for school security, or Delaware, where the former vice president was once a senator and from which he proudly laid claim to authoring the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.

His answer to confronting criminal misuse of firearms, though, was as predictable as it is wrong. It’s hardly surprising since he previously called the firearms industry “the enemy.” He again attacked the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

“First thing I’ll do as President is work to get rid of that,” said the former vice president. “We ought to be able to sue the gun industry.” By that logic, GM and Ford should get ready to defend themselves against lawsuits for drunk driving crimes.

Sen. Warren: More Gun Control to Fix Failed Gun Control

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) admitted that every other attempt at gun control failed and what’s really needed is more gun control.

“We need to think of this problem not as one and done or three things and done,” Sen. Warren explained. “We just keep coming back. We treat it like the public health emergency that it is.”

Sen. Sanders agreed. He said reinstating the failed ban on semiautomatic rifles was just the start.

“We make certain that we end the sale and distribution of assault weapons in this country, and we go further,” he said. “We go further, but at the bottom line is I will not be intimidated by the NRA.”

Except there are two immediate problems with those arguments. First, it admits that every gun control law shoved down the throats of law-abiding Americans is a failure. That would suggest each candidate is only offering a circular path and leading to unending calls for more gun control until confiscation happens. Second, it ignores the fact crime fell even after the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban expired and sales of the most popular centerfire rifle climbed to more than 17.7 million in circulation today. The FBI just reported the 2019 preliminary reports showed crime continues to fall. Violent crimes fell 3.1 percent while property crimes fell 5.6 percent. Those aren’t off years. Those are continuing trends over several years of falling crime rates.

Mayor Pete: Go After Criminals, Except Not for Guns

But Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former mayor for South Bend, Ind., accidentally made sense. Except he didn’t know it and won’t admit it. Buttigieg was defending against accusations his policies on drug enforcement were racially imbalanced. He countered that South Bend law enforcement focused “cases where there was a connection to the most violent group or gang connected to a murder.”

So, Mayor Pete would go after those who commit the crimes in the name of drug enforcement, but when it comes to guns, the law-abiding must surrender their guns and their rights.

That’s gun control brain freeze. It’s what happens when you drink up the gun control too quickly. None of it makes sense and it just hurts.


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WhiteRose
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WhiteRose

Oy Ve!!! Gasp………..it is so so sad, such limited understanding of life as lived by the citizenry. They pontificate as one might in a graduate class on ‘Societal Regulation’, where we will regulate systems overseeing poverty; education; healthcare; etc; always with the ‘common sence rule’ from some central government, and as ‘times’ have changed so to are our Rights, which should find the ‘common sence rule’ applied

PMinFl
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PMinFl

Would rather that they drank frozen cocktails, maybe they would make more sense.

StWayne
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StWayne

You can take the socialist politician out of their state, but you can’t take “the state” out of the socialistic politician.

Frank
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Frank

The good thing is that they are now out in the open, no longer ‘liberals’ or ‘progressives’ but ‘SOCIALISTS’… I will share with all of you what I was taught (INDOCTRINATED) as I grew up in Communist Cuba sixty some years ago. “Socialism is the PATH TO COMMUNISM…” If you doubt this just check out what “U.S.S.R.” stood for… “Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics” The COMRADES in the Socialist bloc of nations all considered themselves to be SOCIALISTS with the pinnacle of their political aspirations being to be accepted in the COMMUNIST PARTY, always was a very small minority of… Read more »

Knute
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Knute

Also, let us not forget, the “German SOCIALIST Worker’s Party”…. better known as the Nazis!

Wass
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Wass

Until American gun owners rights are finally secured, I will keep saying: In the field of political/social discourse there is no greater example of the arrogance of ignorance than that displayed by advocates for civilian gun control.

Stuck in Commie Ct
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Stuck in Commie Ct

I don’t have cable tv, just internet and quite often I watch an app called Plutotv it’s free internet tv that nobody would pay for. Anyway for the last two weeks Bloomberg has been running his political ads there a million times a day. In the ads Obama is backing Bloomberg saying what a great guy he is. It’s strange that I haven’t seen a single ad on regular tv or anywhere else with Obama in it. Has anyone seen any ads with Bloomberg and Obama out there?

PMinFl
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PMinFl

Yea, I was hoping that I left that crap when I left Ct, but it’s everywhere here in Tampa bay area, bloomberg ads run on Every Channel even off or “cable” channels. This guy is trying to buy his way into the white house. Sorry that you’re stuck.

Stuck in Commie Ct
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Stuck in Commie Ct

I have been planning on selling my house and moving to a 2A friendly state but as soon as I started finding land I liked the Dems took over every state I was looking at. So I’m not sure what the plan is at the moment. Thanks for answering my question, I just thought it was strange that his ads with Obama weren’t on cable tv up here, just on the Free streaming tv apps.

JIAZ
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JIAZ

“I have been planning on selling my house and moving to a 2A friendly state”

Top 10 – Best Gun-Friendly States
1. Arizona
2. Idaho
3. Alaska
4. Kansas
5. Oklahoma
6. Kentucky
7. Utah
8. Wyoming
9. Montana
10. Texas
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/best-states-for-gun-owners/369075

Will
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Will

Jiaz,TEXAS should be #2 only behind Arizona!

JIAZ
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JIAZ

@Will
The top ten are all pretty close as far as being “gun-friendly.”
For me personally, if I wasn’t already in rural AZ, rural TX would be “my” next choice.

Will
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Will

@Jiaz,I’m in very rural TEXAS too. If I could only move to one state other than TEXAS,it would be Arizona without a second thought! If you do decide to move TEXAS welcomes you! I have had an active AZ non-resident CWP for the last 10 years too,along with my TEXAS LTC.

Mike11C
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Mike11C

I don’t know about that. Austin, Houston, and Dallas are all infested with liberal d-bags. Didn’t you see that a-hole, “Beto”, almost win Ted Cruz’s Senate seat in 2018? It was too close for comfort.

Stuck in Commie Ct
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Stuck in Commie Ct

Thanks for the info, I’ll start checking out land in a couple of those.

Mike11C
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Mike11C

Yes, I’ve seen it on a local Houston TV station. They also run one of Judge Judy endorsing that sleaze bag.

Degforyou
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Degforyou

I can’t believe JJ done that.

Degforyou
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Degforyou

Yep, I have and bet Obuma didn’t give consent to use in campaigning.

nrringlee
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nrringlee

And here is the take away. The Democratic Party started playing footsie with communists and socialists over 100 years ago. With the culmination of progressive thought co-opted in to progressive new left thought in the late 1960’s the democrat party was essentially taken over by radical leftists. Liberals were purged and leftists rule. There are no liberals left in the party and very few left in our polity as a whole. What you are now seeing is the foundational ideology of the democrat party, New Left Progressivism, collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions. That is why all of… Read more »

hoss
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hoss

Sanders; Commie Rat Bastard.
Biden; A fool , and a thief, been stealing from the tax payers for decades.
Warren; A pathological liar who will say or do anything to get her way.
Buttigieg; A pervert that couldn’t even run a small town in Ind. Besides , what happens if someone should say; Hey your Pres. is a corksucker, so we answer them; yeah well okay.
NO THANK YOU!

Stripeseven
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Stripeseven

The Founding Fathers framed the U.S. Constitution so as to protect Americans from the tyranny of democracy and to protect individual liberty. Serve not Rule..