Former ATF Agent Mocks New Gun Owners, Compares them to Tiger King

Screenshot from C-Span video, cropped and scaled by Dean Weingarten

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- David Chipman is a former ATF agent. He found a new gig as a spokesman for those who want the population disarmed. David Chipman’s latest attempt at scaring Americans away from exercising their Second Amendment rights seems rather ham-handed. From cheddar.com:

David Chipman, Senior Policy Advisor at the Giffords organization said hopelessness, anxiety and fear might cause people to try to use firearms to control some aspect of their lives as they are inundated with concerning news about COVID-19, “but there are risks to that choice.”

“They might think that they’re die-hard, ready to go, but unfortunately they’re more like Tiger King and they’re putting themselves and their family in danger,” he said, referencing the popular new Netflix series and its central figure’s love of guns. Particularly without proper gun training, Chipman worries new gun owners are putting people at risk. Unintentional shootings makeup 1.3 percent of gun deaths and 18 percent of gun injuries.

He suggested first-time gun owners secure unloaded firearms. “Hide it behind the cans of tuna and beef jerky that you’ve stored in the cabinet,” he said.

(snip)

Chipman said he’s concerned about an increase in domestic violence cases and the possibility of a gun becoming part of that equation. Experts have warned quarantine may lead to more domestic violence incidents sprung from anxiety, loss of jobs and more time at home.

Fortunately, there is no evidence of a national spike in domestic violence. The Hill.com has some numbers from some cities.

Dallas showed an increase of 21% of calls from February to March; Los Angeles reported a 12.4% decrease, then a 7.6% increase of calls; and New York showed a 15% decline in calls from last year. There is no good evidence the lockdown is increasing or decreasing domestic violence. Those who make an industry of domestic abuse find a way to conflate any reporting with an increase. For example, a sociology professor speculated that lower reporting might be because of higher abuse rates.

Domestic violence may increase; it may not. It is difficult to know. It is difficult to know if an increase in reporting means an increase in violence or not. It is hard to believe having more gun owners means having more domestic violence.

Comparing the new gun owners to convicted criminals and bizarre adrenaline and meth addicts in the Netflicks docudrama “true crime” series, Tiger King, won’t win points with the new gun owners.  Very few new gun owners will be polyandrous gay men who obsess with and own tigers and lions.

Missing from the Cheddar article is a call for the new gun owners to get trained up. Instead, Chipman advises them to store guns in such a way as to render them unusable for immediate defense of self and family.

People seldom purchase firearms as an impulse buy. They are not offered next to the checkout at your local convenience store, along with the candy.

What seems like an impulse buy is usually a long-simmering and considered desire, set off by events which crystallize the decision to be prepared.

Trying to shame these new gun owners into giving up the guns they just paid top dollar for, is not a way to endear yourself to them.

Those who are attempting to push the national population into disarmament, have convinced themselves they are smarter than the people they are attempting to disarm. They have had success, because they have had the Media on their side for 50 years.

Expert is a label that no longer carries much weight. The public has come to know experts can be found for any side of an argument.

To evaluate an expert, people have to consider their arguments and data. When you find an “expert” who resorts to emotional arguments, or who refuses to show you their data, you know to discard that person’s advice.

Nicolo Machiavelli was a political expert on the use of power, who the left has idealized for 500 years.  He wrote that armed people see the world differently than unarmed people.

The famed political philosopher states it well in The Prince:

Because there is nothing proportionate between the armed and the unarmed; and it is not reasonable that he who is armed should yield obedience willingly to him who is unarmed, or that the unarmed man should be secure among armed servants. Because, there being in the one disdain and in the other suspicion, it is not possible for them to work well together.

David Chipman is attempting to convince recently armed people to place themselves back into the category of unarmed people. It is rather like convincing someone to forget what they have seen.

It has not been working. America is better armed today, in spite of the scaremongering and propaganda than it has ever been.

People in the gun culture need to welcome these new members. They need training and support. Put aside past judgments. Many were only believing what “experts” told them. They have much to learn when they are seeing the world through the eyes of an armed citizen.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Rock

Probably Bidens under desk buddy, he will have to change his name from Chapman to CHAPPEDLIPS.

Get Out

Stopped reading the article when I read this part, “David Chipman, Senior Policy Advisor at the Giffords organization”.

IMOA, These anti-gunners are trying to put a tourniquet on the huge numbers of first time gun owners that were originally sitting on the fence. When LE publicly say they’ll curtail their response to 911 calls, criminals are to be released early from jails and prisons and threaten to close gun stores. These clowns still wonder why these new gun owners flocked to the gun store to get a weapon for self protection.

FORD Will

Just another “PUD” with ears WE taxpayers pay for. THESE “DICKS” need to be unemployed and HUNGRY!

Joepr

He wasn’t even a productive ATF agent. Ask him how many people he arrested in his career.

TheRevelator


Now where did he say anywhere he was voting for Biden? Just because someone isn’t going to vote for Trump, for whatever reason, doesn’t automatically lump them in on the DNC voter list.

TheRevelator

To see the full context for this comment, Scroll down to a comment made by @udomann.

There, a coward who lashed out over what @udomann wrote but has since removed or hidden his comment, but didn’t actually show how anything @udomann wrote was factually wrong. I have since written a thorough reply explaining what was said in detail.

Since the comment disappeared just before I replied to it, it placed it here at the top of the page.

TheRevelator

Well, that’s at least two or three people who were too cowardly to comment publicly…. You may disagree with what I said, you may not like was pointed out about certain politicians, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is the truth as proven by evidence and your “Feelings” don’t change facts. The original idiot whose comment is no longer visible turns into a snowflake anytime someone points out the truth about Donald Trump. I could explain more but since none of the downvoters appear to have a set, at least to comment instead of cowering in their closets,… Read more »

gunnerdd517

Yo, Chepman, The only thing gun owners have to fear the most, is politicians that want to take their guns away. Buzz off, punk !

StLPro2A

David Chipman, Senior Policy Advisor at the Giffords organization….” Enough said. His opinion isn’t worth shit. Moving on.

gunnerdd517

I agree , his opinion dont count,BUT, it does to the crowd hes playing to. The Giffords Org. website should be flooded w/e-mails,comments.Their switchboard should be jammed w/ protests, their postal mailbox should be filled w/complaints. Dont let these people get away with crap like this. Thats how things have gotten so far. Complacency,fear,let the other guy do something. If there are any men, they need to RISE UP !

Firewagon

ATF, ATFE, CIA, NIS, FBI, etc., ad nauseam. All ‘alphabet’ agencies run amok through misguided laws or misguided people! This clucking ‘former,’ thank God and Greyhound, ATF ‘clerk(?)’ is joined at the hip with the likes of ‘The Brady anti-gun crowd,’ the Gifford cause, and any others he can bring some semblance of ‘government thoughtfulness’ to. It is WRONG!, The chip by chip by ever ‘infringing’ chip regarding our “unalienable Rights,” not from governments, from God, should be shut down, or these wags are not gonna like what ‘will be’ coming!

Wild Bill

@wagon, Misguided “Code of Federal Regulations”. The Code of Federal Regulations (CFRs) are written by the agencies supposedly to flesh out how a Congressional Act (found in the 50 titles of the United States Code) will be enforced. Supposedly.
The CFRs are written by the agencies, and supposedly have the “force and effect of law.” Congress lets all this happen so the agencies are hated by the voters, and so no Congressperson can be blamed.
In effect, Congress has given away its sole authority to legislate to the agencies. FDR thought up this scheme.

Deplorable Bill

I served in the Army. I was stationed in Germany in the 80’s. The atfe truly is a bunch of jack booted thugs just like the stazi on the east side of the Berlin wall. If there were any other lower life communist party thugs worse than the stazi, I would have used them to compare with the atfe. The atfe IS RESPONSIBLE for ALL of the murders at Waco (mostly women and children and infants). The atfe IS RESPONSIBLE for the murders ar Ruby ridge. The atfe IS RESPONSIBLE for beatings and thefts of property. I did not HEAR… Read more »

Wild Bill

@DB, Thank you for your service.

Idaho Bob

A
Thug
Forever

Finnky

@Idaho – Nice – simple, accurate and memorable.

Wild Bill

Gentlemen, Bastards Always Taking Firearms Enthusiastically

RJL

Just another Nazi, Anti-Constitutionalist’s=Anti-Americans=Enemies of the United States…

a.x. perez

BATFE has a history of corruption, overreach, and tyranny from scams to steal and sell guns on the black-market back in the Nixon years to behavior so blatant that liberals were ready to break up the Bureau back in the early Eighties, through Operation Fast and Furious. Somehow the opinions of one of their agents against private gun ownership does not impress me.
He is right that many new gun-owners are deficient in safety training and gun handling skills. We gun owners need to offer our help in acquiring these skills.

Tionico

Particularly without proper gun training, Chipman worries new gun owners are putting people at risk.

This in the face of many states closing outdooor spaces, to include firing ranges, and prohibiting precisely the sort of “social interaction” (“insuffient distancing”) that is key to firearms training.

This guy is a control freak, and an elitist into the bargain. He is part of an elite club, and YOU AIN”T IN IT BABY. Stuffed heads like this one need to be taken out behind the woodshed to receive some education.

Gordinho

But we are always safer when the “only ones” are armed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw

Or not.

Tionico

Precisely the incident that popped into my mind when I read this ATF goon’s wtupid comments.

Sisu

, thanks for sharing; I had not seen that demonstration of why only LEOs should be armed. Here’s the follow-up – his employment was terminated: https://www.foxnews.com/us/agent-loses-appeal-over-accidental-shooting-video

Rattlerjake

Yeah, but now he is a cop in some city!

ChiptheBarber

These elitists make me want to regurgitate. Even IF someone is a brand new irresponsible gun owner, it’s still NOT HIS CALL TO MAKE. This is America, if only for a little longer. If you’re old enough to buy a gun and WANT to buy a gun, then by all means, buy a gun. If you can’t get adequate training right now, then ask around. Everybody knows someone who would be more than happy to share their knowledge with someone trying to learn. This is like Comey and his ilk knowing better than the American people what’s right and who’s… Read more »

Vern

To be a “boy wonder,” like this guy, you only have to be willing to believe the lies of the left and kiss up to them.

Laddyboy

Reading the TITLE, I was thinking; This must be talking about the sperm donor of ‘david hogg’. I was not aware there were other IDIOTS who swore an OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION FROM ENEMIES; both DOMESTIC and FOREIGN. I am S T I L L learning that SOME beings STILL LIE!!!!!!!!!

MikeRoss

What an elitist, arrogant, POS Chipman is. At least he’s out of the BATF.

Luv2shoot

Wasn’t it the ATF and Obama that allowed guns to be sold to Mexican drug cartels even though the dealers initially denied them. Then one of those guns was used to kill a federal agent. I wonder what role Chipman played in that.

Laddyboy

@Luv2shoot and Will; 1000^ votes!!!!!!!!!

udomann

Hate to say it but it started under Bush and Cheney and not Obama. Obama added 2 pro gun laws and signed not even one anti gun law. Let that sink in for a moment. Red flag laws are everywhere now and gun confiscations are on the rise because of it. It was Trump who said take the guns first. Don’t put your freedom in the hands of the UNIPARTY. https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Uniparty&action=edit

TheRevelator

In Response to the missing response to @udomann Ok, No one who has downvoted him so far has shown any evidence or pointed to anything that he said that was “Wrong”. I doubt they will either. The response, which only minutes ago was visible but is now no longer, stated that he should vote for Biden….. Now where did he say at anytime he is voting for Joe Biden in his comment? Just because someone isn’t voting for Trump doesn’t automatically lump them in on the DNC voter list. To claim that it does is a weak and pathetic attempt… Read more »

Tionico

and then some districts of ATF began to prosecute the gun dealers who refused to sell to ATF’s Gunrunners. The Reese, or Reece, family of New Mexico come to mind. Family and business destroyed, for REFUSING to complete some sales to ATF mules, “it just smelled funny so we denied”. But ATF did not like being snubbed.
Justice for this family is still sorely wanting. WHEN?

joefoam

Good to know that a bureaucrat from the ATF thinks we normal citizens shouldn’t own weapons. Gives an insight as to the rules are written.

Laddyboy

; The BIGGEST problem is CON-gress has ILLEGALLY delegated the authority to these UNELECTED “bureaucrats”.
ALSO; The “atf” bureaucracy was set up ILLEGALLY by the “irs”.

Wild Bill

@Laddy, That is exactly correct. And that is BATFE’s weakness. The BATFE was created by a memo of the IRS director. Thus, BATFE can be gotten rid of by another memo.

Tionico

Not to mention that any mention of FedGov authority over any of those three letters, A, T, or F, is distinctly MISSING from our Supreme Law of the Land. That means, since FedGov are not clearly and specifically assigned to meddle in a given area, they are PROHIBITED that area. A, T, and F are none of them assigned, thus they are ALL denied,

Wild Bill

@Tio, No. The keeping and bearing of firearms are acknowledged pre political Rights. Alcohol and tobacco are just part of commerce. Congress has authority over interstate commerce. Thus the way alcohol and tobacco participate in interstate commerce can be regulated or entirely excluded from interstate commerce. Congress, however, can not use any of its powers or authorities to regulate or exclude that which is a pre political Right. Thus Congress can not regulate anything about firearms. Finally, the pre political Right to keep and bear arms also applies to the states. Thus state statutes infringing on firearms are Unconstitutional. That… Read more »

George

If you don’t have data, make up numbers. If you can’t do that, then pretend you are some sort of expert on psychology and hypothesize about that people might do…..

Vanns40

Chipman is simply one in a long line of talking head hacks who has betrayed the oath he took to defend the Constitution (that oath never expires by the way) and disgraced the badge he formerly wore all for a few bucks and a lingering spotlight. He should be shunned and ridiculed by all at every available opportunity.

Doszap

Here’s a doozy, come to find out the US Govt HELPED FUND CHINA in developing the shit because it’s illegal HERE.

Sisu

@Doszap there is little doubt that US funding and technology was employed in Wuhan Lab; I expect in part because same research cannot legally be accomplished in the US, but likely also to keep tabs on what the Chinese were learning and because there has been university exchange programs for decades. (See this recent speech by Secretary Pompeo: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/12/the-list-interesting-and-quietly-overlooked-remarks-by-secretary-pompeo/) French designed and began building the Wuhan lab before Chinese Communist Party pushed them out. British Columbia lab where the base virus was taken from was staffed with Chinese “guest scientists” (arrested) as was Harvard’s chemistry and bio engineering labs (head… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Dos, Pres. Jimmy Carter signed a Presidential Directive ordering each and every agency of the federal government to have a aid agreement with China. Many of those agreements are science and technology sharing agreements some are funding agreements. President Trump could simply rescind that Presidential Directive.

Wild Bill

, Maybe he had a contract to sell peanuts to the Chinese! But it was not legislation. Just a presidential order to the agencies in the executive branch of government.

Wild Bill

, If I know about it, then someone on his staff also knows. The Chinese government has been making a fortune of of forced labor, since Nixon. They have been buying political power, world wide; building their military; and using their intelligence apparatus with their profits ever since.

Doszap

One more reason why I have grown to hate all ABC Agencies, all are gestapo dicks.
Like the fictional James Bond License to Kill.
I would like to bitch slap his smarmy ass.

Tionico

Dos, you are TOO KIND by half…….

Jonesy

legend in his own mind.

JW

His experience as a former ATF agent gives him as much clout as my military service gives me the capability to dictate current national security protocol. This dude is a pawn.

HawkThoo

Wow, thanks for posting those links. He obviously envisions himself as a ‘super citizen’ with rights superior to us that pay his salary.

TheRevelator

Rights Vs Saving Lives By TheRevelator It’s amazing, to think we almost had a time when the ATF would be disbanded only a few short years ago which would have prevented the training and creation of idiots who would later be able to parlay said creation as a “Credible” background for experience on things which they know nothing about. Typically, the stupidity which afflicts base born human nincompoops shows up when they have lost an argument of facts and instead try to justify their moronic beliefs with an emotional sentiment. I’m sure you have heard it before. “If it saves… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Rev, the distain for the American people drips from Chipman’s lips because he is a power hungry libtard wolf.

TheRevelator

@Wild Bill It’s not just limited to people like Chimman though, or libtards for that matter. Bill Barr testifying to congress for his confirmation hearings was asked about the second amendment, and his response was along the lines of “Well it is a right but it needs proper control and limitations set by government.” Ammoland documented it before his confirmation. The distain for the American people is present on both the right and the left in Washington, not just one side only. The few individuals like Trey Hollingsworth who are starting to stand up and say “The American people need… Read more »

TheRevelator

@Wild Bill

Well sir, looks like the coward is back. It never ceases to cause me to chuckle when I see him, or those like them, who know its the truth but hate it so much because they cannot argue against the evidence that they can only downvote.

Kind of like what the libtards when evidence disproves their arguments. 🙂

Hope things are going well for you in Texas my friend. Wish we had your Governor up here.

TR

Grigori

I can picture David Chipman easily being a live person that ATF characters in Matthew Bracken’s “Enemies Foreign And Domestic” book was based on.

HawkThoo

Good way to put it. Same here.

usaimages

Former ATF – that should tell you everything you need to know. This SOB thinks it’s 1984, and he wants to be important.

JIAZ

“Senior Policy Advisor at the Giffords organization”

Translation, democratic-socialist.