ATF Careerist Turned Giffords Spokesflack Proposes Evisceration of 2nd Amendment

If ATF retiree-turned-gungrabber flack David Chipman would mislead us on the types of guns he had access to, what else does he say that merits a closer look? (ATF Week in Photos 12 February 2016)

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- “David Chipman, a retired Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) agent, on Monday said AR-15 rifles should be regulated like machine guns,” The Hill recounted Monday in an advocacy piece exploiting the Tree of Life synagogue murders, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas and Parkland, all dressed up like “news.”

“What I support is treating them just like machine guns,” Chipman asserted. “To me, if you want to have a weapon of war, the same gun that was issued to me as a member of [the] ATF SWAT team, it makes sense that you would have to pass a background check, the gun would have to be in your name, and there would be a picture and fingerprints on file.”

ATF SRT has select fire capabilities, but this is an old deceptive tactic that goes back to the Violence Policy Center’s Josh Sugarmann, who noted in 1988:

“The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these guns.”

There would also be more required by such a new Intolerable Act than Chipman admits to. There would be a transfer tax and registration in the notoriously unreliable National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. There’s no reason to believe that bans on guns manufactured after a certain date (like the post-1986 machine gun ban) would not also be imposed. With the Trump administration’s proposed “bump stock” ban, gun-grabbers will have all the precedent they need to order gun owners to dispose of their property. And if government can mandate all that for semiautomatic rifles, why would functionally identical semiautomatic pistols be exempted?

After all, they didn’t used to call the Brady Campaign Handgun Control, Inc. and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence the National Campaign to Ban Handguns for nothing.

That, of course, is another piece of what Chipman and the gun-grabbers he works for want, as does the supportive DSM. They’re hoping by couching plans for bans in terms of “reasonable commonsense gun safety laws” that enough ignorant Americans will allow themselves to be swindled out of their rights.

Weapons of war” were precisely what the Founders intended the militia, comprised from “the whole people,” to have when they showed up for muster to become “well regulated” as a coordinated body able to stand and prevail against professional soldiers. The right to keep and bear such arms is what they declared “shall not be infringed,” meaning prior restraints, permissions and bans are supposed to be off the table.

“Like, I don't think you should be able to anonymously purchase 20 AR-15s at one time, and the government shouldn't know,” Chipman added to his list of infringements, as if someone caught doing that wouldn’t face unlicensed dealer and/or trafficking charges.

It’s no surprise he’d supplement his pension working for Gungrabby Gabby as a “senior policy advisor.” Prior to that Chipman was a spokesflack for Michael Bloomberg, and also did a stint for ShotSpotter, a great way for cities to spend tax plunder on something that “produces few tangible results” but makes it look like the political class is “doing something” about “gun violence.”

Chipman is also the guy who, several years back, had one of the more ludicrous and over-the-top objections to the Tracking Point rifle system, “a new rifle-scope combo that uses laser range-finding, environmental and motion sensors, and a sophisticated computer system” to facilitate precision long-range shots. Here's what he wanted people to believe:

“This technology potentially enables any two bit criminal to operate with the skills of a highly trained sniper.”

Right. Any “two bit criminal” can get his hands on $17K for bolt action systems and from $7K to $16K for semiautomatic systems. That these products have been available for years since and that there has not been one instance of a “two bit criminal” even having one, let alone using one, is a pretty good indicator of the shameless hyperbole Chipman employs.

So it’s not surprising that there were other ATF careerists who viewed him as a self-serving opportunist (at best).

CleanUpATF is a website that provides a forum for disaffected current and former ATF employees concerned with agency waste, abuse, corruption and fraud. My colleague the late Mike Vanderboegh and I had been monitoring it for years, and in 2009 we tried to get the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform to hold hearings on their allegations, to determine if they were just the gripes of disgruntled employees or if they were legitimate concerns being raised by the guys in the field about top-level corruption and incompetence.

I wish Oversight had listened, because an investigation may have precluded the post from December, 2010, picked up by Mike, and that was a thread we pulled to unravel  the deadly and cynical Operation Fast and Furious “gunwalking” criminal enterprise. If the committee had done its job and that had been uncovered in time, there’s a good chance we’d not know the name Brian Terry, at least in relation to being a murder victim with a family still desperately looking for accountability and justice.

Since the original CUATF lead and subsequent information provided by whistleblowers was borne out, it would behoove us all, and especially House Oversight, to at least look into what was alleged about Chipman before he retired:

“When it was brought to the Bureaus attention that Chipman had tried to grease the skids for former ASAC Stankoweicz(sp), the 5th floor was outraged and tanked the contract offer for someone who had so blatantly and publicly disgraced the Bureau. That did not prevent him from sliding into some other non Bureau contracted position. The problem is, that Chipman has been manipulating the Bureau sponsored contractor to pad the BQL with friends. The net effect is that the truly qualified people are not being considered for the positions. It has also been stated that Chipman has delivered HIS version of the BQLs for these contract positions, demanding his buddies be placed at the top of the list. Yep fraud. That simple. Yep the 5th floor knows.”

That's a strong word. And just to clarify, that’s where the Director’s Suite 500 is located.

I don’t pretend to fully understand the details, and I'm assuming “BQL” as used here refers to a “Best Qualified List.” An ancillary discussion suggests the reference is to showing favoritism, including for an executive colleague said in that conversation to have been at the center of a sexual harassment settlement. A “Professionalism in ATF” thread at CUATF offers a further claim into who Chipman is alleged to have “tried to grease the skids for”:

“Stankiewicz literally got caught trying to pull down his pants on Intel GS [name redacted here] during the Coatesville Serial Arson case [the same case which made national headlines].”

Especially in light of recent #MeToo developments where it’s insisted that such past actions have present relevance, it would be appropriate for Oversight to determine the truth of all allegations. It would also be appropriate – now that the gun-grab groups have advanced him as their resident expert and the media (based on Google News feed hits), consider Chipman a go-to-guy for quotes – for “real reporters” to look into this. Realistically, based on past experience, that seems unlikely.

What has Oversight got to lose by at least looking into the CUATF allegations?


About David Codrea:David Codrea
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.
In addition to being a field editor/columnist at GUNS Magazine and a contributor to Firearms News, he blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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    willy d
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    @ExGob; You are totally correct about The Gun Grabbers, all they want to do is to take away our right to defend ourselves as granted by the Second Amendment, they could care less about the criminal factor, besides most of them don’t even have a High School Education, which makes them super scholars, as you are right, they just have to sit back and wait for the gun grabbers to pass enough laws to take our guns away, then the criminal factors just move in and we have no way to defend or protect ourselves, brings to mind Biden’s remark… Read more »

    ExGob
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    ExGob

    When, if ever, will the anti-gunners come to the realization that every law and every word against gun ownership and/or possession is an asset to every criminal and every potential criminal? Gun restrictions apply only to the law abiding because criminals don’t give a damn about the law. But they are concerned about resistance from their victims and they love it when that ability to resist is lessened by laws and other gun restrictions. Obviously the criminal is smarter than the anti-gunner.

    JLA
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    JLA

    And he took an oath to defend the Constitution. Need lose his retirement for this, besides the tax payers paid his salary.

    txfella
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    txfella

    Just another federal pensionist fool who remembered everything and learned nothing. The “F” in atf expressly violates the 2nd amendment, and this individual is advocating even more of it.

    beau
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    beau

    ATF Careerist = Tyrant’s apparatchik. NOTHING that leaves the mouth of this individual should be believed.

    Mott
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    Mott

    IDIOTS! The AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war nor is it a “Machine Gun” and this Idiot knows better

    Jerry The Geek
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    Jerry The Geek

    I own a 1911 pistol which, by its serial number, was manufactured in 1918 … during or at the end of WWI. Is this a semi-automatic weapon of war which needs to be treated as a threat to society?

    There’s a problem when ignorant people start assigning labels to objects. They don’t know what they’re talking about, and they sweep too widely to be taken seriously.

    Screw the Optics
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    Screw the Optics

    When reporting about handgun crimes, mainstream state media now refers to them as “semi automatic” handguns.
    Without question, the talking heads have received the current memo of sophistry propaganda.
    It’s the same word game that morphed ‘illegal aliens’ to
    ‘undocumented immigrants’, to ‘migrants’, to ‘undocumented citizens’.

    GregTorchia
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    GregTorchia

    Even as both the Gifford’s exercise their Second Amendment rights now and Carry Kimber 1911’s they are still gun grabbers that want ours ,,but They gonna keep their’s/Pray for Florida that the Commies don’t get IN. 1776

    willy d
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    willy d

    @RoyD Hitler, Stalin, Mao’s, Hillary! @TionicoRight on about the 10/22’s what about al of the other Semi-Autos out there? @JonR; Waco don’t forget Ruby Ridge! @JeffMason; Right about brain damage making serious decisions affecting large populous of people, think about this; Spencer, Kennedy, and McCain, spent so much time in office that they died of Brain Cancer? Was it really that or was it BRAIN ROT or just plain didn’t want to give up that power??? Very sorry about Gillford getting shot same as Brady, but still trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment! @DAVECADWELL; Great History Lesson to… Read more »

    Alan
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    Alan

    While respecting firearms enforcement, there probably are some honorable men and women agents who are plainly pissed at the antics of their agency, there are altogether to many at operational and management levels who, putting it in plain English, are not worth the matches it would take to set them alight. Same applies unfortunately to Department of Justice, which seemingly has adopted the ATF.

    DG
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    DG

    I say cut his mic

    Alan
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    Alan

    How about removing his reproductive capabilities.

    DAVE CALDWELL
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    DAVE CALDWELL

    A few quotes from the Framers and other individuals of note, read and head: “A Government that does not trust its law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms, is itself, unworthy of trust.” –James Madison, chief wordsmith of the Constitution “Any government that would attempt to disarm its people is despotic; and any people that would submit to it deserve to be slaves.”- Stephen F. Austin, 1835 “The historical reality of the Second Amendments protection of the right to keep and bear arms is not that it protects the right to shoot deer. It protects the right to shoot… Read more »

    truckeral
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    truckeral

    Another outright liar, POS, SOB.

    Randolph W Lievertz
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    Randolph W Lievertz

    … shall not be infringed, unless you tick the wrong box on your tax forms & get a felony, or fail to complete your pilots license renewal form correctly & get a felony, or as a physician do any one of a thousand things wrong in completing Medicare or Medicaid claim forms or filings & get a felony. Why are all felonies reasons to infringe on your #2A rights ? Why are all Federal errors felonies rather than misdemeanors or civil infractions ? ANSWER: So the government can create another group whose Rights shall be infringed and citizens disarmed.

    Steve
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    Steve

    Amen brother,

    Ameriproud
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    Ameriproud

    Chapman is part of the DEMORATIC MACHINE TO OVER THROW OUR DEMOCRATIC FREE SOCIETY. PEOLE INCLUDING LIBERALS AND ALL DEMORATUC POLITICIANS NEED TO BE EXILED IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE CHANCE OF DESTROYING OUR GREAT SOCIETY!!
    VOTE REPUBLICAN VOTE REPUBLICAN VOTE REPUBLICAN VOTE REPUBLICAN VOTE REPUBLICAN VOTE REPUBLICAN
    TRUMP2020 TRUMP2020 TRUMP2020 TRUMP2020 TRUMP2020 TRUMP2020 TRUMP2020

    willy d
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    willy d

    He probably shot himself in the foot that severely damaged his brain, thus giving his support for Giffords mindset!!!!!!!

    Jeff Mason
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    Jeff Mason

    I don’t want to be unkind, but Giffords was shot in the head and has a mental defect. And I do not want someone with a mental defect making my liberty decisions for me.

    If she wants to be the “poster child” for preventing insane liberals from buying guns, that would be more reasonable than what the anti-gunners are using her for today.

    Kendall Miner
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    Kendall Miner

    Chiman is just anothe Demo-COMMUNIST!!.
    DE OPPRESSO LIBER!!.

    Tod Knuth
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    Tod Knuth

    The ATF should be a convenience store, not a government bureau

    Joseph M Owens
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    Joseph M Owens

    Love It my brother, carry on.

    Docduracoat
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    Docduracoat

    The jack booted thugs at ATF always shoot your dog when they assault your house.
    Abolish ATF to save the puppers!

    Mark Epperson
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    Mark Epperson

    They come to.my house and shoot my dogs.
    THERE WILL BE BLOOD RUNNING IN THE STREETS.
    And It Won’t be Mine.

    Bill
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    Bill

    Anyone, ANYONE who would disarm the public is either uniformed, uncaring or just plain evil. They are no different than the Taliban or any other terrorist organization except for their dress–most of the time. Peoples right to self defense is CLEARLY put forth in the BIBLE and is guaranteed by the second amendment. In order to enslave a nation, the public must be disarmed. First is the registration of people and firearms and sooner or later comes confiscation. All of this being done in small steps so as to not alert the public to the impending danger. The way to… Read more »

    Roy D.
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    Roy D.

    When people bring up Hitler’s actions I wish they would not neglect to mention “Uncle Joe’s” actions. Or Chairman Mao’s actions for that matter. All thanks to peoples thirst for power and the use of socialism/communism to obtain it. Hillary, anyone?

    Kevin
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    Kevin

    Good post Bill but I hope you meant “uninformed” not “uniformed” as those who would deprive us of our firearms. I can’t speak for the Fed level but most local cops are on your side.

    Ky
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    Ky

    Idk about that. I think they give the right answer but would snatch them from us in a hot second. Don’t forget they’re just following orders of there real boss

    Dave churbuck
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    Dave churbuck

    I would like to think that the president feels the same way you do about the Oath as many others, But even the president as supposedly powerful as he is can only rid us of the Political domestic enemies the same way the rest of us can, and that is by the vote, Which in reality only pisses off the losers and makes them more of a threat. No matter which side controls the government the other side is still there paid for life by the people to try and regain control while doing everything they can to destroy,and disrupt… Read more »

    CoosaTotahK9
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    CoosaTotahK9

    ALL firearms laws that throw a “blanket” over all people are unconstitutional! Only the firearms laws that are directly directed a specific acts of criminal behavior are actually legal laws. One has to remember that the statement “The Right … to keep and Bear ARMS Shall Not Be Infringed” was placed in the Bill of Rights to further PROTECT a natural fundamental Right of defense no different than the freedom of speech or the freedom of the press or the freedom to assemble or the Right to worship as we please! The Right to keep and bear ARMS is an… Read more »

    Doug
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    Doug

    I didn’t need to read the rest of the article after the quote “weapons of war”, to know that it’s coming from a shill, a hack, that is only interested in his money/control. Like every democrat that uses this term, it’s the same story and the same character.

    subguy
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    subguy

    Capndad: You are my role model.. Clear, simple, brilliant observation. Carry on!!!

    BOB KOWALCZYK
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    BOB KOWALCZYK

    1776…….21 GUN SALUTE

    Justista
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    Justista

    “it makes sense that you would have to pass a background check, the gun would have to be in your name, and there would be a picture and fingerprints on file.”

    And how would that have helped in the synagogue shooting?

    David
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    David

    So they can come and take it from you later..

    pod
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    pod

    In states where Title I guns are legally required to be registered, there’s numerous cases where the government rolls up and demands the firearms of someone they deem unfit, because reasons. The victims aren’t necessarily violent or unstable, it’s just that the sliding scale of “unfit” kicks in and the government rolls up and decides to try and take the guns. Like I’ve read about some guy in Long Island who had to surrender his guns because he was a member of a motorcycle club where two or three members did something illegal. Or in the case of a veteran… Read more »

    Jon R
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    Jon R

    Sure the ATF knows what they are talking about. They handled Waco so well, and many more problems where they just went in and killed everyone.. It makes me feel so safe knowing that any moment they can come crashing in ,murder you and your family and say sorry when they realize how bad they messed up, it’s heart warming. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The government already has too much say in our lives. It’s time to take away their rights.

    Docduracoat
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    Docduracoat

    Don’t forget that they always shoot your dog. Abolish ATF to save the pups!

    Roy D.
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    Roy D.

    And stomp your kitten.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Seldom mentioned , however I understand that the ATF shot the dogs at Waco and Ruby Ridge. Why do we have an agency mixing alcohol and gunpowder. The AT should be separated form the F. Better yet do away with the F. There all sorts of agencies to handle misuse of firearms. Come to think about it, we have a lot of agencies that can oversee alcohol and tobacco quality and use without SWATs having to shoot people at all.

    TheHolyCrow
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    TheHolyCrow

    It’s a shame what they allow to be put into tobacco and sold to an addicted population. It’s like they want them to die before they get old enough to collect from Social Security. Last I heard there was about 200 chemical compounds in cigarettes that aren’t very good for you. It seems they (the ATF) only condone the slow kill.

    Roy D.
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    Roy D.

    When I worked for the DOJ it was a given that those that were with the ATF were there only because they couldn’t get on at any other DOJ Agency. So there is that. But then, I don’t have much love for the FBI either. I watched diversity destroy much of the DOJ.

    Roger Messerly
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    Roger Messerly

    The ATF and many of the alphabet bet agencies should remember who pays their salaries and should be dissolved!

    Larry
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    Larry

    I guess he also supports 223/556, 62 grain ammo as armor piercing green tip.

    Gregory Romeu
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    Gregory Romeu

    Want our AR’s? Come and get them. Semper Fidelis.

    James Andrews
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    James Andrews

    Exactly…….Molon Labe!

    Bob Carpenter
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    Bob Carpenter

    OOH RAH

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Greg R, And after that we are going to use our to go get theirs. First stop will be the nearest BATFE offices where they already have a bunch of things that they think that we ought not have.

    Capndad
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    Capndad

    The fear in government bureaucrats that the AR instills is proof that the AR fulfills a need citizens have in order to keep their government in line.

    GregTorchia
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    GregTorchia

    Bingo /capndad -we have a winner sports fans- winner winner chicken dinner the second amendment securesThe other amendments1776

    Joe Davis
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    Joe Davis

    When the government fears the people, you have liberty.
    When the people fear the government, you have tyranny !
    – Thomas Jefferson

    William McAtee
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    William McAtee

    That’s a great comment! I never thought of it like that.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Capndad, but our government is not in line. Our government is corrupt from the Congressional level down to the GS 13 level. If, God forbid, an armed revolt ever became necessary, then the AR is what would get us M16s, SAWs, tracked vehicles, A10s, and all the logistical support. The more that I think on it, the more I hope that we can drain the swamp with our vote, rather than our rope

    Geary Mcdevitt
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    Geary Mcdevitt

    The gun grabber media loves to trot out these swamp creature, “experts” as if their opinion is more important than yours or mine.

    Trumped
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    Trumped

    Excellent info. Not exactly surprising that a career atf bureaucrat is lying about some very basic firearm info to achieve his goals, or he is crooked and engaged in helping out a creepy perv who sexually harassed women.

    Rock
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    Rock

    Another lying, paid off media whore… The FACT is that an AR (Armalite Rifle) is NOT an assault rifle, it is a semi automatic, one bullet per trigger pull, rifle. They do NOT have the select fir (full auto/semi auto/safe) switch that an actual assault rifle has.In reality, they are no different that the THOUSANDS of semi auto rifles produced before and used for hunting/recreation. The black aluminum/steel and plastic rifle designed by Stoner, “looks” SCARY to the Dem/lib BOOBS of the world, their parents should be proud, NOT ! Obviously they haven’t looked at the faces of the women… Read more »

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    There is a citizens ballot initiative in Washington State that WILL define things like the ubiquitous Ruger 10/.22 as an”assault weapon” that will be required to be registered. The “definition” of assault rifle” is so broad as to include these. How many millions are in the hands of the general public since they first came out back in, when, the 1960’s?

    Chuckbone56
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    Chuckbone56

    @Rock. Why is it that all the socialist women politicians are homely? Food for thought!

    GregTorchia
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    GregTorchia

    Keep ICE Dump the ATF bring them in under the FBI

    James Andrews
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    James Andrews

    Exactly…….

    Dave in Fairfax
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    Dave in Fairfax

    The FBI? Really? Their motto: We always get our woman. It’s been an M.O. since the beginning.
    Here’s the link you might be looking for.
    http://cleanupatf.org/

    GregTorchia
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    GregTorchia

    Would be easier to clean up when they’re all in the same house,, just saying,,,Undoubtably DOJ and FBINSACIA they’re all compromised and we need to take the trash out before we can build again /Against all enemies foreign and domestic

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    And, but the FBI back to investigating agency from a military force.