Keep Buying Guns And Ammo, Wherever You Find Them

Opinion by Alan J Chwick & Joanne D Eisen

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Keep Buying Guns And Ammo, Wherever You Find Them

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- The US Congress and Vice-President Pence, on January 6, 2021, willfully, almost joyfully, permitted the theft of our country by socialists. The great majority of elected officials, the Main Street Media, the Judicial Branch, the President’s assistants and confidants – all caved without shame to the thieves.

US House Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats, having won the election by throwing decency to the wind, are proceeding to impeach President Trump a second time. Such a unifying act..right?

In other times, and countries, where the socialist revolution has occurred, we know their policies have caused massive and damaging changes to society. We know that counter-revolutionary struggles are inevitable and that nothing is ever the same again.

But the USA is not the same as other countries. Socialists may have political ownership of the country, but that ownership was achieved through theft. The Democrats turned our sense of fair play & morality into weakness and beat us into the ground with our own decency.

Our enemies do not understand that what they interpret as weaknesses are our strengths. Without a doubt, counter-revolution will be ours.

Our problem is that the violence necessary to salvage the Constitution will damage the Constitution. Our Constitution was never expected to withstand the amount of criminal violence brought against it and we cannot foresee or understand the inevitable changes.

Yet, our Constitution was written in the cause of Freedom, so very valuable that the very concept infuses our love for our Country and gifts us with the unity of purpose we require for a victory.

Our enemies, despite all their tendrils of power appearing to block our now feeble legal steps forward, do not understand that they are backing us into a corner where we would have no choice but to respond, and no other response than violence.

Our enemies have not been able to affect the balance of power between civilians and government as has occurred in other socialist-led countries. Their policies have made US citizens so uncomfortable that conservatives, as well as other who were just Americans just get on with life, are all now literally armed to the teeth.

As Rush Limbaugh recently said, Democrats, fear the 75 million Trump supporters.

These supporters own more firearms than there are citizens in the USA and roughly 12-15 trillion rounds of ammunition. And they possess the knowledge to use them to the best advantage. But we would prefer not to use that path.

But WE WILL protect this country and the Freedom for which it stands.

For having forced this duty upon us, we feel intense anger at the Democrats and what they have done to this country.

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, after months of attacks on the First Amendment using cancel culture tactics, the nation awoke to news that ‘big tech’ had taken unprecedented steps to silence conservatives and our President.

Our First Amendment is in tatters. We must deal with the expectation that our government, fully controlled by Democrats who have already told us their negative views about civilian weapons possession, will very soon take steps to functionally destroy the Second Amendment.

Since the false flag ‘conservative attack‘ on the Capital, the use of force has been roundly condemned. Of course, it should be condemned. And lawlessness has been repeatedly bashed. And YES, that too should be condemned.

Condemnation has now developed a hysterical tone, both from the Right and the Left. And conservatives have been given the blame. This condemnation is fueled by hypocritical liars. Did these thoughts leaders condemn the Portland riots? Or any other Democratic approved riots aka: “peaceful protest”? NOPE NOT ONCE!

Shall we fall for another round of lies designed to steal the power that THEY cannot win by legal means? Are THEY trying to cow us into passive acceptance and inaction that would lead more quickly to the destruction of the concept of Freedom?

WE know that the election has been stolen by the Democrats? Was that theft lawful? Do THEY realize that under such circumstances, obedience to such a regime becomes questionable? Would it be moral to obey slave laws? Is it moral to obey laws designed to destroy Freedom? Is it moral to teach our children to become peaceful and obedient slaves to an illegitimate regime?

In America, the answer is a resounding NO.

Is it lawful to FALSELY impeach a President, even if he may be out of office? Is it SANE to want to create more national division by attempting impeachment a second time? And what laws are WE conservative gun owners breaking by asking questions and seeking answers about the election?

What can we expect from the Biden-Haris regime? WE can expect a flurry of new laws to attempt to make us powerless. We can expect universal NICS checks with retention of NICS data to help create firearms owner lists so we can be more easily disarmed. We can expect a permanent ban on semi-automatic, so called, ‘assault weapons.’ We can expect Federal Red Flag Laws. We can expect no hearing protection laws regarding suppressors. We can expect no Federal Concealed Carry Reciprocity laws. We can expect that there will be some ATF raids on FFLs, and some FFL zoning issues to close down more of them. We can expect bogus science studies from the CDC.

We Can Expect Anything That Their Small Minds Can Imagine.

For It Will Happen.

However, it is not yet time to take harsh action. We are not at the end game yet.

Keep Loading In Supplies, Buying Guns And Ammo, Wherever You Find Them!

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About The Authors

Alan J Chwick has been involved with firearms much of his life and is the Retired Managing Coach of the Freeport NY Junior Marksmanship Club. He has escaped from New York State to South Carolina and is an SC FFL (Everything22andMore.com). [email protected] | TWITTER: @iNCNF

Joanne D Eisen, DDS (Ret.) practiced dentistry on Long Island, NY. She has collaborated and written on firearm politics for the past 30+ years. She has also escaped New York State, but to Virginia. [email protected]

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Quatermain

Do THEY realize that under such circumstances, obedience to such a regime becomes questionable?” Correction; any obedience to such a regime becomes complicity.

ras52

That lady told rat face shumer where the bear craps in the woods. Too bad the republicans in the house and senate don’t have the guts to do so! Bravo to her!

Montana454Casull

I would have to say that gal hit the nail right on the head . Schumer and the Democrats are using Hitler’s play book to destroy America . Civil war is on the horizon as many Americans are pissed and won’t sit back and just watch it happen . Lock and load we are in for rought times in America . The tree of Liberty will be refreshed soon !

JSNMGC

Posted a video of a woman confronting Schumer, but it’s “Awaiting for approval.” People are pissed.

AOC and company have pushed Schumer and Pelosi into accelerating the whole game plan and the frog has jumped out of the pot. You can’t turn the heat up that quickly.

SEMPAI

Overreach will come quickly to those that voted against trump and they too will soon be enemies now that they have been used and lied to by their party to gain control, they will have no need for them as well, Can’t wait to see their faces.Those are the neighbors that ask hey can you sell me a gun and some ammo?

JSNMGC

Maybe the video will pop up soon. Security tries to put their hands on her and she brushes them off and tells them not to touch her and they back off. Schumer stands there looking weak and finally asks “Can we remove her?” This is on a city street. The security says “no” and she keeps giving Schumer a piece of her mind.

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SEMPAI

Like Mitt the rhino on a plane last week being called a traitor by everyone on the plane and lindsey “fencewalker Graham ” who is worried about sexual orientation shit in Pakistan so he’s okay with sending them 25 billion for research? While people in S.C. are losing their homes , hate that guy I email him regularly.

JSNMGC

I agree – those two are both horrible.

I think Schumer is even more taken back than Graham and Mitt – she really let him have it.

RoyD

There is a reason Schumer acts the way he does.

Miserable Wretch

The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.

Ruger1

That’s Because He’s a Pedophile and Likes Little Black Girls!!!! It’s a Fact and There is Proof!!!!

Laddyboy

@R1: Links!! Other wise you are spreading rumors.

Country Boy

yes there is. he’s a dam coward when he doesn’t have “the power and control”
Compare the look on his face in that woman bitching him out video compared to the look in his eyes when he has “the wild eyed look of a villian who wants to control the world in a James Bond movie” in his “First Georgia! Then the WORLD!” What did you say Chuck? uh , uh uh uh First Georgia ! Then America! video on utube. LOOK INTO HIS EYES on that one.

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RoyD

I agree 100%.

Laddyboy

I do not hate these DemoKKKrats or the DemoKKKrats with a “R” behind their WIDE YELLOW STIPED BACKS!! I HATE AND DESPISE their LIES and ACTIONS AGAINST American Citizens!!!!!!!

Country Boy

Agreed. She deserves a medal of honor for it too IMHO. (big grin on my face)

RoyD

I saw it and those security guys were put in a bad position by the Senator. They looked like clowns trying to “protect” him in that situation.

JSNMGC

The security guys seemed to know the limits of what they can do and it was awkward for them to have to tell a U.S. Senator that he is not king.

It looked like the lady was just following the advice of Maxine Waters:

Deg4u

I hate that bitch, she’s the devil in disguise, and I want say anymore.

JSNMGC

I posted this response with a link to a video, but it also was put on hold (not sure if there is a system filter that causes youtube links to get put on hold for review – the same thing happened to that Reservoir Dogs link):

The security guys seemed to know the limits of what they can do and it was awkward for them to have to tell a U.S. Senator that he is not king.

It looked like the lady was just following the advice of Maxine Waters:
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RoyD

Speaking of protecting politicians. New metal detectors piss off Congress.
Congresswoman Lauren Boebert ‘was in stand-off on Capitol Hill after refusing bag search’ | The Independent

Dubi Loo

I guess they never heard of the Fourth Amendment. It can be found in the Constitution. The same Constitution those officers swore a holy oath to protect, preserve, and defend, against all enemies foreign AND domestic.

Where are the consequences?

RoyD

“The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind
The answer is blowin’ in the wind.”

RoyD

Just because:

Dubi Loo

Exactly my point, and exactly the problem.

RoyD

Here you go:

JSNMGC

That’s it – thanks. Different angle than the one I saw.

hippybiker

Learn to reload! While you still can!

SEMPAI

“Keep buying guns and ammo where you find them”
Picked up another nice Sig Sauer and 300 Rds of .556 just this weekend, didnt need the Sig but what the hell.

Country Boy

what model sig? Have a P365 and M17 I love them both. And I wasn’t a plastic fantastic fan before I got them either. M17 mainly because military uses it and it’ll go well with my M1917 Colt Army revolver (.45acp/.45autorim) The P365 is accurate as hell too. both are.

Ansel Hazen

“However, it is not yet time to take harsh action. We are not at the end game yet.”

Well then just exactly when is it? How many more do they get to shoot and kill when we are exercising the 1st amendment right of free speech and to peaceably assemble?

RoyD

Have you seen this yet?

Country Boy

Our problem is that the violence necessary to salvage the Constitution will damage the Constitution. I disagree! The Fore Fathers gave We The People the 2nd A for EXACTLY what is happening right now. To fight against TYRANNY and usurpation of our government by corrupt politicians and foreign powers, when We The People have no other recouse. Sounds like yur “End Game” is to surrender to these damned commies that call themselves “Democrat Socialists of America.” We’re where we’re at now because we’ve waited too long to do anything already!. Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

For all of those out there who don’t realize how dangerous the situation is I would urge you to READ THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. Like then, we have petitioned our government for decades. Like then, we have been answered only by repeated injury. Goverenment’s job is to further the RIGHTS and FREEDOMS given to mankind by the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. RIGHTS like life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, self defense, to keep and bear arms, to gather peaceably, freedom OF not FROM religion etc. When government becomes destructive of these ends it is in the RIGHT of the people to alter… Read more »

Country Boy

DAMN WELL STATED DEPLORABLE BILL.AND YOU’RE 110% CORRECT.

THE TIME IS DRAWING NIGH FOR THOSE OF US WHO TAKE THE 2ND A SERIOUSLY , WHO TRULY LOVE OUR COUNTRY , WHO WOULD RATHER DIE ON OUR FEET THAN LIVE ON OUR KNEES TO WATER THAT TREE OF LIBERTY AND TO “MUTUALLY PLEDGE OUR LIVES,OUR FORTUNES AND OUR SACRED HONOR.

AMEN AND AMEN

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KDude

This forum is becoming an ugly mess of division. Sad. I’ll just say only a nut bag would continue buying 5.56 at nearly a buck a round. Frankly, I’ll wait till that standing army is marching our streets to “keep order” and then just take it from them. I paid for it anyway.

Choogie

I’m a pretty good shot at long distance anyway and a damn good shot if you are a hundred yards away so I didn’t shoot up all my ammo practicing and I have plenty. I’m with you KDude. I’m not going to pay that kind of money for a single round. THAT’S JUST DUMB.

Finnky

@Choogie – I would if I could afford a 50bmg or 338 lapua. Unfortunately I’m a crappy shot with long arms, so no point in me having anything like that… $1 per round for 223/556 or worse handgun ammo – is high enough to price people out of the sports. Not too much if you expect to expend those rounds in anger or fear. If I’d had no ammo and lived near downtown Kenosha – I probably would have willingly paid $10/round for a few mags worth. I will be quite sparing with my Tokarev. Recent browsing shows recent advertising… Read more »

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Charlie Foxtrot

So, we should keep buying guns and ammo to keep inventory low and prices high? Right! How about spending that money on training and practice?

Nurph

Agreed, but where are you finding training? I k ow I haven’t seen any that are open/available for a LONG time! Or, that doesn’t cost as much as a new firearm. Not knocking the price for quality training, but if it’s not available then what? Dry fire. Dry fire. Dry fire.

Courageous Lion - Hear Me Roar - Jus Meum Tuebor

I’m sure glad I don’t have to dry fire.

Charlie Foxtrot

Dry fire isn’t training! It’s practice, which is why it is often called dry practice! Training classes are empty right now, because people are complaining that the ammo for a training class costs as much as the training class itself. There are training classes that do not require any ammo, so there is that too. As for the price, as I said: “How about spending that money on training and practice?” It is not that people don ‘t have the money, they just spend it on guns and ammo! You can buy a Glock or a high-quality 2-day training class… Read more »

RoyD

The only “training” that I have had was that provided over a span of 25 years by the Federal Govt while I was employed by it. Well, there has been all those 65 years I have been present on this globe during which I think I have fired almost 300,000 rounds that I paid for. There has been some “living life” training received during that time also. I have fired enough rounds during my 52 years of owning guns that going to the range is mostly just to have fun and confirm POI.

Rob

Of course he lost the election. He denied Covid and then preceded to handle it as poorly as anyone could. With tens of millions of people unemployed he was always going to lose it without more Stimulus in the fall. You all should be angry because he was the People’s choice the first time around. We chose him because we were sick of the corrupt system in DC. Well the People’s choice was hammered his whole time in office with baseless accusations that the press repeated like the parrots to the Deep State they are. Trump did nothing to get… Read more »

Courageous Lion - Hear Me Roar - Jus Meum Tuebor

PEOPLE…the “LAW” Makers need ENFORCERS! We need to work to get the ENFORCERS turned back into PEACE OFFICERS by utilizing the ideas and strategies suggested by thickredline.org! Go to the video link there and watch the videos. IT WOULD WORK if we can get off our duffs and start campaigning for the idea! If we can get this implemented, the POLICE will become a BARRIER against insane “laws” because THEY won’t enforce them. NO VICTIM. NO CRIME. That needs to be our motto.

If LEOs don’t enforce the new laws and just leave people alone, it would certainly prevent a lot of problems. In the past, the military has provided equipment, consumables, training, and advice to federal LEOs when it was requested, sometimes with bad results. I don’t see that changing over the next four years. Overall, about 20% of LEOs are military veterans. The percentage is likely significantly higher in the group of LEOs who would be ordered to enforce the new laws. In the past, it was mostly the criminal element and Totalitarians who disliked LEOs. In 1992 and 1993, a portion… Read more »

Courageous Lion - Hear Me Roar - Jus Meum Tuebor

Now go check out thickredline.org PLEASE!

Like CourageousLion said go check out thickredline.org.

I have. I’m addressing asset forfeiture through legislative efforts with state representatives and state senators. For the area I live in, I believe that is the best way to address that issue. It was a topic on a debate. Many of the local LEOs are open to discussing the coming gun control laws and what should be done – either through legislation or through non-enforcement. They do not like what Biden has proposed. Knowing some of the people in local LE, and knowing the community I live in, much of the rest of the Thick Red Line agenda would be… Read more »

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Deg4u

Like CourageousLion go check out thickredline.org.

JSNMGC

See above.

RoyD

When the one guy touches her to check for weapons that technically was an assault.

Chuck

Winston Churchill once said “Fear is a reaction, Courage is a decision.” Right now, fear and anxiety are demonstrably high on both sides of the political divide in America, though the Left is emboldened by what they see as successes. Still there’s a level of heightened fear on the Left, or 25,000 National Guard troops wouldn’t be in DC for a “virtual” Inauguration. The Gun Community is indeed fearful of what’s to come from the most Anti 2A (and 1A as well) Administration in US history. Much discussion about what’s to come, how will we react, individually and as a… Read more »

Country Boy

ALSO I’VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ALL THESE UTUBE VIDEOS, VOCAROO RECORDINGS, AND TONS OF WRITTEN ARTICLES ALL TELLING US TO BE PATIENT,THAT THE MIL INTELLIGENCE IS ARRESTING 192,000 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE STOLEN ELECTION CONSPRIRACY, LAYOUTS OF HOW FBI CIA/MILITARY GOT IT COVERED, ARMY GOT VOTE SERVERS IN GERMANY GUARDED BY CIA… ARE ALL TOTAL BS POSTED/UPLOADED BY DEM OPERATIVES WHO THINK WE’RE GULLIBLE ENOUGH TO BUY INTO IT SO WE’LL ALL WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO SAVE US, WHEN NO ONE IS GOING TO. FOR THE PURPOSE OF SO WE’LL SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING.BECAUSE NONE OF… Read more »

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RoyD

Country Boy: Would you like to know how you go about getting no one to read what you write. Well, one way is to write it all in capital letters. There are other ways too but that one seemed appropriate given your contribution to the site this evening.

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Knute

As do I. Sometimes I even vote it down without even scanning it. It’s terribly annoying, but some miscreants just cannot seem to help themselves.
Perhaps they will learn someday… but I’m not holding my breath.

Big George

MAYBE he’s pissed as we all SHOULD be!! Stop whining about writing in CAPS and focus on saving your sorry asses from whats coming!!!

Dave in Fairfax

BG,

He may be PO’d but he routinely writes in all caps.

ANYONE who has been on the Net for very long knows that it’s yelling and considered rude.
I don’t know how long you’ve been using computers, you’ve been here under a couple of names for a couple of years, but you might want to look up Netiquette.
Doing something that is sure to make people ignore what you have to say is just a waste of bandwidth.

Papa J

Actually with my 20/100 vision a person using all caps makes it easier for me to read. I realize I’m in a minority on that but……

Dave in Fairfax

Papa J,

Sorry about your disability. I recommend looking at the accessibility settings on your computer and possibly getting a magnifying screen for your monitor. Your disability, however, in no way excuses his behavior.

Knute

If you’re on a windows machine you could also try an included app called: “magnifier”. It creates a small magnifying glass that moves around with the cursor.
It should be in the control panel under ease of access, or under magnifier in the search bar.

Finnky

If you have mouse with wheel between the buttons, an holding down the control key while rolling the wheel will zoom in or out depending on direction. Have been know to use this to zoom in on a single word in order to determine what it is in a grainy pdf.

Country Boy

Have been since that fake prez obama voter frauded his way into the whitehouse

JSNMGC

The video to the Columbus LEOs arresting the BATFE agent is now available. I posted it, but it is “Awaiting for approval”

RoyD

The BATFE was always considered the bottom of the heap.

JSNMGC

I was waiting for him to say “these aren’t my pants!”

He did indicate his wife was pregnant – apparently the local LEOs did not believe that was sufficient reason to not cuff and stuff.

A federal agent with the same name got into trouble for stealing alcohol from a grocery store. Something about switching price tags and going through the self check-out.

After the encounter with the local LEOs, the BATFE agent filed a lawsuit claiming excessive force and claimed he suffered both physical and psychological injuries.
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2020/12/10/atf-agent-accuses-columbus-police-officers-excessive-force/6505667002/

JSNMGC

Thanks, I have never seen that before.

“Am I being detained”

“You are being uncooperative”

Flexing their authority back and forth on each other.

I wonder if either of them realize they sound like the people they criticize.

Then the FBI agent goes full drama llama.

Big George

FBI aren’t LEO by any stretch of the imagination! I worked next to some good ones when I was in LE, but they had been an LEO before becoming a Fed. For the most part, FBI are mainly armed bean counters!

Country Boy

i TOO HAVE A POST “AWAITING APPROVAL” DOES FACEBOOK/ TWITTER/AMAZON SERVERS HAVE CONTROL OVER AMMOLAND COMMENTS?

Country Boy

THAT HAS BEEN ON UTUBE FOR A WHILE NOW MAN

JSNMGC

My mistake then, I just saw it.

JSNMGC

I posted this story awhile ago. The video just became available:

Funniest video I’ve ever seen:
Local LEOs: “Get on the ground!”
BATFE Agent: “You’re making a big mistake!”
Local LEOs: “Get on the ground!”

Finally, BATFE agent gets on the ground

Local LEOs: “Stop resisting!”
BATFE agent: “I have a medical condition. I’m hyperventilating!”

The follow-up to the event is even more humorous.

Bill

So, even Federal agent doesn’t know any better than to act like a drugged-up thug. That says a lot about where this country is.

JSNMGC

There were some similarities:

  • Failure to follow commands
  • Saying something to indicate special status
  • Resisting arrest
  • Claiming breathing problems
  • Ranting while locked alone in the squad car
  • Filing a lawsuit afterwards claiming excessive force
Finnky

I’ve only managed to watch the first several seconds as the video won’t load. However what I saw was cop get out of his car and start yelling at someone. After yelling “show me your hands” he says “I need to see some ID” while pulling his pistol and pointing at his subject who is holding his hands out as visible as he can. Would you reach into your pocket to retrieve ID at this point? If so, cop would assume you are pulling a gun and shoot you. It is refreshing to see batfe get their comeuppance, but barring… Read more »

Finnky

OK – So looked to me like first cop escalated too fast – however they were responding to call about someone impersonating a police officer. I’d think that is a situation with more risk subject is armed and willing to use it.

After initial contact – cops acted appropriately and batfe did not.

JSNMGC

Certainly we don’t know all the facts, but based on what the lady in the house said, it seems the BATFE agent was trying to intimidate her and he wouldn’t take no for an answer. She refused to let him in and called 911. The LEOs probably rolled-up believing there was an armed man who may or may not be a federal LEO. Maybe the LEOs who are reading this thread will chime in, but I believe it is normal protocol for Federal LEOs to give local LEOs a heads-up before they make contact with someone. If the Federal LEO… Read more »

RoyD

A BATFE agent acting like a bitch, color me surprised. LOL!

Country Boy

THAT’S BECAUSE BATFE AGENTS ARE RECRUITED BY THE TWO DEMOCRAT LEADERS OF THE BATFE THAT DEM POLIS PLACED IN CHARGE. IMO THEY MUST BE RECRUITING ANTIFA AND BLM MEMBERS AND OTHER ANTI 2 A SNOWFLAKES BECAUSE THEY SOUND ALIKE….. DON’T THEY?

JSNMGC

They do seem to have a peculiar sense of priorities.

I’d be ok if they transferred their 5 best bomb guys to the FBI, kept a customer service organization under the leadership of someone with a career in the private sector, and shut the rest of it down.

gunnerdd517

laughed so hard got tears. Thank you !

gooder12

I mainly skim a lot of the stuff on these sights as I already know what they are gonna say. They will say whatever makes em money, much like Trump, who I had Hope for, but gave up on him about 3.5 years ago. I have been protesting mainly Government stuff since the mid 60s, my draft number to Nam was 252, and I have never joined A Party as I have a Free Mind. I am sure some of what was said in this article makes sense, but the agenda doesn’t fit with my Free Mind, which has never… Read more »

JSNMGC

You forgot to mention 3.2 beer.

BTW, you never explained why Noem is not a real South Dakotan “in the true meaning of the words.”

pureamericana

Have faith in the US military. 1/2 maybe more will never ever take orders to go against their family or city they call home. Est. 460 million firearms said to be in private hands is more then a handful for anyone to go up against .

Dave in Fairfax

PA,

I’d like to believe that, but Obozo replaced a lot of the command structure with his sycophants and I’ve met a number of enlisted who would just follow orders. Being products of our public school system, they have no idea what ideas the country is founded on.

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JSNMGC

Obama did make some bad changes and Trump didn’t make many improvements. The social justice programs in the military got worse under Trump.

Military co-operation with federal law enforcement began well before the Obama administration.

Country Boy

Maybe you should google all legislation Trump has passed? Most was never shown nor talked about on the CNN and other stations/media. Lots of really good things. Quit relying on the TV MSM. Read it with your own eyes.

JSNMGC

I was replying to comments about the military.

I’m well aware of the good things Trump did and have posted about it before.

Why do you think I rely on the media and why do you think I don’t read about legislation?

Country Boy

Most of that SJ crap wasn’t done by trump, but rather by the m miitary. leaderspreviously appointed by obama. Please get the facts straight.

JSNMGC

Trump did a lot of good things while in office. However, making excuses for the things he did wrong sometimes looks like cult worship.

He was the Commander in Chief.

He nominated Mattis as Secretary of Defense.

Transgender programs and women in combat roles went full steam ahead during the Trump administration.

RoyD

I caught hell for bringing up his directing the banishment of bump stocks and I have never possessed one much less owned one. It was just not right. Didn’t stop people here from deriding me for my disapproval. Oh well, “little people” are everywhere.

JSNMGC

I received the same responses about bump stocks and the comments typically involved a lot of all caps words and multiple exclamation points. Being able to form policy opinions without being affected, is a rational approach to politics. I don’t own a bump stock, a braced pistol, or an 80% pistol frame, but I support the rights of other people to own them. When someone starts with a person to whom they are emotionally attached and then form all their political opinions based on supporting that person, they find themselves going through all sorts of contortions while they rationalize their… Read more »

Country Boy

have to agree with you on that one…sad to say.

Country Boy

AGAIN DUE TO THE BRASS IN MILITARY THAT OBAMA APPOINTED. Look it up. the brass ignored trump like the dems they are. Look at mattis now……he’s anti trumper too.

JSNMGC

I have – a long time ago. Obama shaped military policy to conform to his ideology. Trump could have done the same thing. Why do you insist on thinking Obama had the authority to instill his views into the military, but Trump did not? Trump was the Commander in Chief – they had to follow his orders as long as they were legal. Nominating Mattis was a really bad move – as were numerous other Trump appointees, including William Barr and Chuck Canterbury. Canterbury was so bad, the Senate made it known they wouldn’t confirm him (thankfully) and Trump was… Read more »

RoyD

Just look at some of the things that have occurred at the Academies over the last four years and some of the things the heads of those Academies have said about “social justice” topics during that time.

Nosh Itsherlock

Simply untrue. Go back to Katrina. The military happily confiscated every firearm they could find, and that’s what they were looking for.

Courageous Lion - Hear Me Roar - Jus Meum Tuebor

This time it won’t go so well for them. if there is a this time. Folks were caught way off guard after Katrina. It was like living in a dystopia nightmare. They couldn’t believe what was happening. If they try it, they will encounter THE WAR OF THE FLEA.

JSNMGC

I’m not aware of any requests from federal law enforcement being denied by the U.S. military in the past. If you haven’t already researched it, take a look at the equipment, consumables, training, and advice the military provided federal LEOs at Waco.

They had to kill the children to save them.

The bigger the show, the bigger the budget increase – it’s Showtime.

RoyD

I was occupationally connected to the aftermath of Waco and am still psychologically connected to “Waco” as a whole. I will carry that to my grave. Don’t even get me started on the bombing in OKC and its aftermath.

JSNMGC

RoyD, you have made comments before about Ruby Ridge. I can’t express how appreciative I am given the glimpse of your background you have shared. America would be a better place if more LEOs, especially Federal LEOs (either active or former), spoke up like you have. Dave Koresh had issues, but the way that whole thing went down was despicable. Not just the completely unnecessary loss of life, including women and children, but the lies that were told during and after. The “heroes” taking pictures of themselves in ashes of the aftermath just illustrated how tone deaf they are. Ruby… Read more »

Country Boy

you mean like the 6200 NG at the state capitol bldg right now?
Imagine that. THe dems (and repubs) have deployed more NG at the bldg than soldiers in the middle east. There’s something wrong about in my eyes. it tells me our polis are more scared of us than middle east terrorists. I don’t see that as a positive thing.

JSNMGC

Getting spicy:

Nurph

I’m REALLY surprised she wasn’t taken down. I mean REALLY surprised! That part is coming folks! Speak against them, you get tackled. It’s coming.

Steve

Gawd, I love that woman! what I wouldn’t give to be able to think on my feet and speak out like that…

Country Boy

maybe we ought to “gofundme” hrer just because? LOL

Deg4u

They couldn’t bother her cause she was telling the truth and if they put their hands on her they backed off real quick. She would put them in their place making them shake in their shoes.

Country Boy

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned………

PistolGrip44

Shared to my https://usa.life/Pagunowners page.

CeltDad

“We Can Expect Anything That Their Small Minds Can Imagine. For It Will Happen. However, it is not yet time to take harsh action. We are not at the end game yet.” Uhm okay. So what does the endgame look like? Is it people being hauled off in cattle cars for relocation? Just curious. I never was an officer nor did attend one of the academies. Never went to war college either. But, it seems to me that if you wait and let the enemy get good and entrenched, you get well World War 1. Trench warfare. Long. Bloody. Brutal.… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax

CeltDad,

The endgame is the restoration of a constitutional government. I don’t think that is the word that you meant to use. Boxcars aren’t even their endgame, they’d be an interim point.

I suspect you were asking what the tipping point is. If that’s correct you might want to look at the 3%er principles, specifically #3.
3. No First Use of Force – “Don’t fire unless fired upon”. We are not the aggressor nor antagonist. We are purely defensive and only as a last resort.

If you want to read some more:
https://www.thethreepercenters.org/about-us
is a starting point.

Knute

We are in the end game. The minor pieces are all gone, and the major pieces still left to both sides are all set up. We are currently maneuvering to avoid loss, and our opponent is trying to set up his knockout blow (complete injection of the entire population), thereby trapping everyone left alive.
This is what the endgame looks like. We are deeply in it, but the game is not yet over. We are still in play.

Qui Bono?

The 14 characteristics of fascism are: Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats… Read more »

JSNMGC

“Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.” That is a trait of all totalitarian societies (including the various flavors of communism) in modern history. A large percentage of people are against: Never-ending gun control; A huge, powerful government that increasingly redistributes wealth, and creates more and more laws restricting the freedoms of non-government employees; and Open borders Many of these same… Read more »

chocopot

Fascism and Communism are first cousins. Their differences are far outnumbered by their similarities. Neither one belongs in our nation. The Democrats represent both.

JSNMGC

I agree – that is why I usually just refer to the problem as totalitarianism.

The Democrat platform contains many of the elements of totalitarianism and many Democrat politicians work diligently to implement those policies.

The Republican platform contains many elements of a free civilization. Unfortunately, many Republican politicians do not work diligently to implement those policies.

chocopot

Agree 100%. Thank you for saying it so clearly.

Bill

The claim that nationalism is fascism is a total fraud. To say that people cannot be proud and protective of their nation without adopting an all-intrusive, centralized, lock-step government with control of approved thought is the greatest of lies, and America has proven that for over 200 years. Go away, liar. What you are pushing is fascism, while accusing patriots of being the ones doing so. You are an unscrupulous devil.

RoyD

“approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.” And you know what, under the right circumstances, there isn’t anything wrong with any of that.

Country Boy

YES, THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND JOE BIDEN TO A “TEE”

Get Out

Trump had support from the GOP-controlled Senate, Trump spent the past four years focused on filling judicial openings with his allies, but it didn’t help to produce an election win for him.
All of Trump’s lawsuits have failed, over 60 cases since Election Day in key battleground states, cases were even dropped by the Trump campaign without judicial action amid questions about their merits or venues.
If there were any real proof of fraud or a stolen election
he and his lawyers should have been able to prove it by now.

Papa J

You can’t show proof in court, if the Judge will not let you in the door. Most of those cases you claim failed, where never given a hearing by the respective courts. The steal is real. The judges in those swing, or battle ground states refused to hear the cases. That is not the same thing as losing a case.

Get Out

Trump and his lawyers couldn’t show any proof in court when they presented their case.
Trump’s lawyers failed to produce any evidence of vote-by-mail fraud in Pennsylvania even after the federal judge ordered it do so, according to a 524-page court documents.
Giuliani couldn’t even produce any legitimate evidence of fraud.

Jsauerii

Yeah, do that, they will pick them up with the rest of them when they come to get them in a few months. We don’t need them anyways, everyone is afraid to use them.

SEMPAI

LOL

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Dave in Fairfax

Jsauerii, What is this, the 3rd name that you’ve used here? I have a word for you to look up; poltroon. I also have a charge for you to look up; pusillanimous behavior in the face of the enemy. You’ll find it covered by UCMJ Art 99. THEY may be handed your weapons when they come to pick them up, but don’t assume that everyone else is of the same mind. If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels… Read more »

pureamericana

Perhaps one of the best quotes of the Founders.

AZ Lefty

KEEP PANIC BUYING!!!!!!!!!

Get Out

Missouri is the show me state, I’m not from Missouri, but show me
anyway.
IMOA, Trump’s baseless claims of a stolen election over “voter fraud”
has failed 50+ times in courts across seven states.
If there were real proof of fraud or a stolen election
he and his lawyers should have been able to prove it by now.

Bill

“Get Out”, nothing has failed in court. The courts have declined to look at the evidence and give any sort of fair hearing. Trump has simply been escorted off the stage, and his objections simply ignored, while the people are told that there is no merit to the accusation. No serious audit has been allowed, and very little effort to preserve evidence given any attention. There will always be liars, and, even worse, there will always be people like you who eagerly believe the lies. The all-powerful state is happy to have allies like you, rushing to trust them without… Read more »

Country Boy

THE COURTS REFUSED TO ADMIT THE EVIDENCE, CLAIMING HE WAS TO SUBMIT BEFORE THE ELECTION. WHICH IS TOTAL LEGAL JARGON BS. IT’S THE DEMS WAY OF GETTING AWAY WITH THE STEAL. THE REPUBS DON’T WANT AN EXPOTUS TRUMP AROUND THAT STANDS FOR WE THE PEOPLE AND AMERICA FIRST. IT’LL MESS UP THEIR PLANS TO HELP THE DEMS WRITE THE FINAL CHAPTER OF THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR COUNTRY. WAKE UP!

Qui Bono?

You people are seditious nuts. Yes, there are some dangerous socialists, communists, and anarchists out there. There are also some dangerous fascists, neo-Nazis, and white nationalists out there. I draw no distinctions between the radical left and the radical right – they are all enemies of our country. Thankfully, they are all also in the minority. We are a liberal democracy, a republic of elected representatives with separation of powers and respect for diversity of opinion. Your fellow Americans who may differ with you on any given policy issue are not your “enemies.” They are your own family members, neighbors,… Read more »

David

You seem to be lost. The meeting of the Communist Party USA is two doors down on the left. And don’t come back. I do appreciate it when domestic enemies identify themselves.

Qui Bono?

If you are advocating the violent overthrow of the legitimately elected government of this nation, then you are the domestic enemy. Period. I have no more patience for your extremist rhetoric. If you would suppress the voices of anyone and everyone who disagrees with you, THAT is tyranny. I don’t want a fascist state any more than I want a communist state, and I will oppose BOTH with equal resolve. If you don’t know the difference then read:

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html
and: https://simplicable.com/new/communism

Country Boy

But Biden was not ligitimately elected. He was elected through massive voter fraud.SO WAS OBAMA.
Anyone who says otherwisE is lying to you. Which the dem polis believe/think they are so good at lying they assume evey American will be believe them.

BUT WE DON’T.

Dave in Fairfax

QB, That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. You are not entitled to your own facts. There has been documented proof of election fraud as well as calls by elected officials to attack their fellow Americans. Party initial has nothing to do with the behavior of the individual, there are people in office who act unconstitutionally on both sides, having them agree/conspire proves nothing. Perhaps you missed who OBiden is nominating for his posts, and what their histories are, if so, educate yourself. True Liberalism hasn’t existed in this country for more than 1/2 a century, the… Read more »

Qui Bono?

There is no “documented proof” of widespread election fraud in the last election. Period. That is not my opinion, that is the conclusion of every official investigation conducted to date, from local courts to the Supreme Court and Trump’s own Justice Department. Not a single person has been able to show me a single concrete, unequivocal piece of evidence demonstrating widespread fraud. You’re living in an alternate reality.

Dave in Fairfax

QB, If you actually believe that the DOJ is Trump’s, or any other part of the gov is, for that matter, then you are the one living in an alternate reality. I’m not surprised that “Not a single person has been able to show me a single concrete, unequivocal piece of evidence demonstrating widespread fraud.” A very simple one is people who are supposed to be observing the ballot counting being made to stand so far back that they cannot observe the process. If you’d like another, observers being removed from the room and then the ballot counting continuing in… Read more »

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Choogie

If you didn’t have your head so far up your ash bucket you would have seen and know that there is plenty of evidence and it’s all over the Real News. Not the FAKE NEWS. How do you suppose it got here? Why are you here??? Go to Roku Channel and check out on Real Americas Voice. There is plenty of evidence to be seen there. You read what the people here have to say and I guess you think that everyone here just makes this stuff up !!! So tell me, Why are you here? If you don’t want… Read more »

Country Boy

The dems are lying to you. The dems have always lied to you.The dems have sewn up most of important state courts with their lockstep, goosestepping chrony judges. There are some on the repub side too. We call them RINOS. If you don’t believe me you’ll believe your own eyes in around 6 months to a year into the “Joey and Kammy Show”. Hide and watch.

SEMPAI

Good thing were not fukbook you sir would not be allowed to post opposing views or speak your mind. But that’s not how Republicans/ Conservatives roll that would be the party that your in love with. Your rights, now after you have done your diligent duties will be under attack next Because your President will get bored quickly when nothing he says to the 78million that need Cleansing and Re Education ( Your parties words ) comes to fruition.Enjoy your lockdowns hope you have some 401k left. Take your shot , wear your mask and stay home be a good… Read more »

Qui Bono?

I’m not a Democrat, I’m a Libertarian. I resigned from the GOP after 42 years when they gave Trump the nomination. Trump is a snake-oil salesman who inherited his wealth, skirted the law to maintain his wealth, evaded the draft, defrauded working class subcontractors so he could walk away from failed development projects with millions in his pocket. And that was all before he became president. Look it up! And yet you think he cares about you, and you believe his lies. None of you can give me any evidence of voter fraud – all you can do is splutter… Read more »

SEMPAI

He is definitely a shady character and so is biden anyone in politics is. The fact that you say your libertarian says it all, your used to losing you have never had a voice ( that’s your choice) good thing the first amendment is alive and well here. History teacher? Not with your comments to dave who might I add SCHOOLED YOU WELL on a time line of socialism you must have been asleep while you were getting your teachers degree in community college. I went to college too I’m a Registered Land Surveyor.Mt. Rushmore heard of it? 3 Surveyors… Read more »

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Papa J

There it is! A teacher for 30 years. Almost all teachers I know, and I have known a lot of them are fully indoctrinate with Socialist Propaganda. This is to include my mother and all her teacher friends that i met growing up. I was not sleeping in the back of the class, I was to busy having to listen to all the BS these people were spreading.

Country Boy

You might want to remember what you’re preaching when the Democrat Socialists of America get in power come Jan 20th 2021 & start their plan to lock up anyone they deem seditionists/threats to their plans/domestic terrorists. Former CIA head Brennan posted that he considers Trump supporters “a malignancy in the US” and AOC just announced she wants to control what is deemed “the truth” by “reining in the media” (her words not mine) just last night and again this very morning. Speaking of burning houses, did you miss Antifa and BLM burning down the downtown areas of city after city… Read more »

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