Where Do We Go From Here?

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Second Amendment Activist Protest Activism Take Action

Across America – -(AmmoLand.com)- Second Amendment supporters are looking at the Biden-Harris regime’s first days in office with very understandable trepidation. After all, Chuck Schumer is demanding an end to the legislative filibuster, opening the door to court-packing, campaign “reform” that silences our voices, and other assaults on our freedoms.

So, what do we do next?

There’s a lot to do in order to be ready to put pro-Second Amendment leadership in control of the 118th Congress, which will be elected next year. But this is a task that can be accomplished, and in many ways, is more along the path to being accomplished than you might realize.

Let’s take a look at what’s happened to two nominally pro-Second Amendment elected officials who recently wobbled (to put it mildly) on a non-related issue. In Wyoming, Liz Cheney was rebuked unanimously by the Wyoming Republican Party for her vote to impeach President Trump. She is also facing an effort to remove her from her leadership position that is supported by over half the House GOP. While it remains to be seen what the outcome will be, it has to be an encouraging sign.

Similarly, in Kentucky, Mitch McConnell is facing a similar backlash over his comments. Local Republican party officials have rebuked him, and the state Republican party plans to debate a censure resolution on January 23.

Involvement in a political party that is supportive of the Second Amendment – whether at the precinct, county, or even state level – can have an outsized impact for the numbers of people involved. With the political party comes infrastructure and institutional power that can be maximized for defending our rights.

It also never hurts to make sure that all of your friends and family are registered to vote – and that their registrations are up to date. With the proliferation of mail-in balloting (which will not go away any time soon), you would not want your vote – or those of your friends and family – to be floating out there. Your county and state board of elections are other places to get involved.

One thing that has to be done is to disabuse all Second Amendment supporters that our effort to restore our rights will be a short, victorious campaign that settles the matter once and for all. Anti-Second Amendment extremists didn’t give up after the Heller ruling, they haven’t given up with the confirmation of judges likely to uphold our rights, and they won’t give up if we thwart the Biden-Harris regime.

Second Amendment supporters need to act, politely engaging with their fellow Americans, preparing to work inside political parties at the precinct, local,, and state levels, and support the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action and Political Victory Fund to prepare for the next election battles.


About Harold Hutchison

Writer Harold Hutchison has more than a dozen years of experience covering military affairs, international events, U.S. politics and Second Amendment issues. Harold was consulting senior editor at Soldier of Fortune magazine and is the author of the novel Strike Group Reagan. He has also written for the Daily Caller, National Review, Patriot Post, Strategypage.com, and other national websites.

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Some guy
Some guy
2 months ago

None of this matters anymore. They count the votes, not us. Like Stalin said, I don’t care about who votes, as long as I count the votes.

Pa John
Pa John
2 months ago

A DuckDuckGo search for “what does U.S. Constitution say about state elections” will quickly get you this: The term “Elections Clause” refers to Art. 1, § 4, cl. 1, of the United States Constitution that reads as follows: “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but Congress may at any time make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of chusing Senators.” (Emphasis added.) Only state LEGISLATURES may write / change election law. NOT the courts, NOT state executive branch individuals elected or otherwise,… Read more »

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 months ago

“the 118th Congress… will be elected next year”?? Have you lost your mind? NOBODY will be “elected.” All political leaders will be APPOINTED by the DemocRat Party! In November, the Socialists got away (scot-free) with outright fraud [creating mythical ballots, and counting each ballot multiple times, until they had enough votes to ensure a win], and they are giddy as schoolboys in anticipation of future elections. Until they are forcibly stopped, they will indeed get away with it again, and again, and again, and… you get the picture? THERE is the problem – a lack of federal control of any… Read more »

Some guy
Some guy
2 months ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

They shoved it up America’s ass, and America said thank you master. There will NEVER be another free election in this nation. And by next year, when owning a gun, or even support for someone owning a gun will put you in a boxcar headed to the camps…….

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Some guy

Only if government employees with guns follow any and all orders.

Finnky
Finnky
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Unfortunately some will follow the orders. When the offending officials meet a we’ll deserved fate, other officers are likely to leap to defense of their brothers. Then we end up facing all of them and all their military gear. If we educate the good officers and insure they know what their compatriots are doing, we will stand a better chance of only facing the “bad” officers. If state and local LEO do not back up batfe on raids, and do not pursue citizens for violent-federal crimes (self defense) – batfe will be more circumspect and less successful in their endeavors… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

I used to be more optimistic about what orders government employees with guns would not follow, but I have seen very few comments that support that belief.

The orders that were followed in 2020 were confirmation that a significant percentage of armed government employees will follow orders to do ridiculously authoritarian things to good people and will follow orders to not arrest people who are in the act of committing violent crimes.

Pensions are a powerful motivator.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I did not, but that decision was probably easier than the decision to abandon their own headquarters to mostly violent rioters in MN, stand by and watch the other violence, and then follow orders to go arrest someone for singing in a parking lot.

The decision to break-in the door of some suburban dentist, shoot his golden retriever, scream obscenities at his wife and children and hand cuff him over something he bought legally seems to be on a whole different level.

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

“The orders that were followed in 2020 were confirmation that a significant percentage of armed government employees will follow orders to do ridiculously authoritarian things to good people and will follow orders to not arrest people who are in the act of committing violent crimes.” If my memory serves me correctly, your statement above happened primarily in areas governed by liberals. Under those circumstances one should not be surprised that it occurred. Here in the OKC area the few “demonstrations” were not dealt with in an extrajudicial manner. If anything the first one was not dealt with in the manner… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

I agree – it did happen mainly in areas with a Democrat-led local government. I would expect similar actions regarding new gun laws in those areas (which cover a lot of the population in the U.S.). The LEOs would probably follow orders. The local sheriff made it very clear what he would do if BLM/Antifa came to the county I live in and started committing crimes. He would order the deputies to arrest the violent criminals (and the deputies would probably follow orders). He also put out a public statement that he would not enforce mask orders – so the… Read more »

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

Sadly, Finn… “if” is the biggest word in the English language. [IF the Pilgrims had shot a skunk instead of a turkey… it would have changed the hell out of Thanksgiving!]

But I do agree with you that some way must be found to “separate” or “identify” the ‘good’ LEOs from the ‘bad’ LEOs.

Bill
Bill
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

In America today, where people have been so well taught to look out for Number One instead of cherishing sacred duty and honor, I do have to wonder how many people will stand up for faith, liberty, justice and right, rather than avoid rocking the boat and risking their pay check. I so greatly hope that high ideals remain strong in enough of our citizens, especially those having positions of larger influence.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Bill

I hope you’re right.

When people act like this over a cell phone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRL_FkfCgxU&ab_channel=AudittheAudit

it makes me wonder what they will do if their boss tells them the local dentist has a “weapon of war” and is a “white supremacist, far-right extremist, neo-Nazi”

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Bill

posted youtube link: “Awaiting for approval”

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
2 months ago
Reply to  Some guy

Some guy,

You always have the choice of whether to get into the boxcar. If you are armed, you can back up your NO. They may kill you, but it’s a choice of standing or kneeling.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 months ago

Amen!

Some guy
Some guy
2 months ago

Agreed

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
2 months ago

“There’s a lot to do in order to be ready to put pro-Second Amendment leadership in control of the 118th Congress, which will be elected next year.” AHHH BULLSHIT! You are one of the biggest idiots if you truly believe the tripe you push! “Wait and vote them out of office!” I would like to see that logic applied when we walk up on a man raping a 9 year old girl… “Let’s wait until he rapes 5 more little girls THEN we will REALLY have a case against him and he won’t get out of prison for 7 years!”… Read more »

loveaduck
loveaduck
2 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Who’s he going to tell on this site? He’d be preaching to the choir. He, and the rest of us, do need to inform the people. We also need a renewal of civics classes at all levels in public schools. Are you active in any of this?

Bill
Bill
2 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

When an election is stolen as brazenly and visibly as was done in 2020, and the criminals are patted on the back by incestuous politicians, mainstream media, Deep State “law enforcers”, Big Tech, and the “justice” system, all well paid off or warned to stay in their place, and the fraudsters are allowed to get away with it AND gain complete rulership over the country (at least in the “official” sense), by what reasoning does ANYONE imagine that the next election will set anything right?! The citizens are now in the position of being told to shut up, sit down,… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago

who’s taking your guns? (smh)

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

wil,

President Biden appears to be committed to his policy – no wavering or hesitation in his response.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

I really like this young man. He gets it and provides a good program each time I watch and it’s not rinse and repeat, sure what he says sometimes is a repeat of the information but it’s not like listening to Hannity who I also like.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I replied, but it’s a youtube video, so it got delayed by the system.

Dave, sorry to trouble you, but could you shake it loose?

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Thanks.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

obviously Biden and “America” have this fear of “assault weapons” and want to do something. pretty sure more murders happen with handguns, but, is the answer to fight back or offer solutions? prayer vigils do nothing but they are popular anyway!
OUR “micro-culture” has a few rogue individuals that like shooting ar’s at people in public, and that’s not good. so what can we realistically do to stop that kind of stuff besides shoot the place up?

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I was answering your first question – you were scoffing at the notion of someone wanting to take guns. Biden answered the question definitively. Regarding your more recent questions, the solution is so difficult and so fraught with defensiveness and fear (the fear politicians have of being called racists) that most people don’t even want to talk about it. The dysfunctional micro-culture in high crime neighborhoods is dramatically different from the micro-culture in low crime neighborhoods. Improvement (people deciding to make different decisions) needs to come from within, but we have discussed before people who might be able to provide… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

well to stay on topic of what Biden wants to take away has nothing to do with high crime or low crime neighborhoods its more people killing other people with ar’s in public (most if not all of the perpetrators don’t come from those high crime micro-cultures you like to talk about…btw). how do you make a common sense law to combat that? maybe I should invest in a few lowers…lol

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

The justification for taking away AR15s is violent crime. That’s not the real reason of course. The tool has nothing to do with the act of violence and it is unrelated to the real cause of violence. The majority of crime takes place in high-crime neighborhoods. If that crime decreased, there would be less excuses for never ending gun control. I do not like talking about the dysfunctional micro-culture in high crime neighborhoods. I wish that micro-culture improved dramatically to the benefit of all the people who live there. In a country with a population of almost 330 million, there… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

there is a reason that we have more people that attempt to solve their problems with an ar, because it doesn’t happen like that everywhere. like people thrown in the mud you are accustomed to it, you almost imply you are making excuses for it, whereas someone from Sweden would more likely be horrified.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I make no excuses whatsoever for people who murder. It doesn’t matter to me whether they use fertilizer, gasoline, a knife, an AR15, or a Highpoint.

Last edited 2 months ago by JSNMGC
wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

but…what you are doing is making a difference in why a “micro-culture” may be more violent ie impulse control lack of a father etc. and why this country has more assaults with assault weapons that result in a lot of people being dead. a kindergarten all shot up looks really bad on tv. you seem to glance right over the fact, a lot if not all of those people don’t fit your micro culture hypothesis. I say that to point out there might be a flaw.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I’m simply doing a pareto analysis. I don’t glance over any of the murders. The single most effective thing that can be done is to make improvements in the dysfunctional micro-culture of high crime neighborhoods. When people use a semiautomatic rifle to murder numerous people it gets a lot of attention from the media and politicians (as compared to the 4,174 people who were shot in Chicago in 2020). There is a reason for that disparity in news coverage and political conversation. Going down the pareto list, I’ve discussed before that mentally ill people who have been adjudicated as violent… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

so, you manage to lower crime in high crime neighborhoods, will stop other people from using ar’s in totally unrelated crimes and neighborhoods, shooting lots of folks to solve their issue?
im using the Scooby doo “the facts are” method…lol

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

wil,that probably feels perfectly normal for you. LOL!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Not at all. How did you arrive at that comment?

What I said, was there are things that can be done to address the largest component of violent crime.

I said there are other things that can be done to address the much, much smaller component of violent crime.

I asked you for your suggestion, because maybe you have an idea that has not been discussed by politicians or the media.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

its all b/s as far as outlawing anything, the optics of mass killings look horrific and “something must be done” (never mind the 4k+ murders you mention).
my larger point is, its not so easy to pull yourself out of the mud. we are all born blank slates and adjust to what we know as we know it.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I agree that it is difficult.

The consequences of it are so devastating that it makes the lack of effort by people who might be able to lead some improvements all the more disappointing.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

in that they victimize the law abiding user, but they satisfy the voter. its the absolute on either side where the stalemate is (obviously).

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I’m not sure I understand.

Are you describing the people on opposite sides of the gun control debate?

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

pretty much…”gun control” can be done and with the possibility to own a bazooka too. our culture as a whole seems to accept being in the mud

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Put me firmly in the camp of:

There is already too much gun control

I thought all along that was your view as well.

Based on all three discussions we have had, it seems the most significant points of disagreement are:

  • The degree historical events have impacted behaviors in high-crime neighborhoods;
  • The degree to which people have free will;
  • The degree to which intelligent, influential people could have helped; and
  • The efficacy and morality of ever-growing forced redistribution of wealth by the government.
wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

you gotta weigh that with the fact that I would love to own a fully functional m3 with a fully functioning 25mm to go with it. if im not a criminal I should be able to do that. if laws would help keep guns out of the hands of any person that shouldn’t have a gun then im for it. if you take away the right then it had better be a legit reason. historical events absolutely play a part future behaviors of any society ie 1776 people have free will, but to what degree of life are they basing… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

m3 Bradley fighting vehicle…a frankensteined put together armored vehicle with a kickass 25mm and tow missiles…the ultimate in property protection on a shoestring budget. an m1 would be expensive to shoot…lol

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

how many clips does your m3 hold.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

this its like 600 in the turret and another 2-3k in the racks. an m3 is a personnel carrier with a big gun on top not a gun like a rifle.

Some guy
Some guy
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Why do you continue to engage this liberal POS? He’s just going to spew word salad forever, like his beloved president *…….

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Some guy

I explained that – see my post to RoyD (two posts below).

Finnky
Finnky
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Does that 4,174 number include suicide and justified? If just homicide, it would be about 50% of all homicides committed using a firearm across the entire nation! I keep reading about “bad weekends” in which ~50 are killed in that city. If they average 50 per week – they’d still be at 2600 homicides per year or ~30% of nation figures.
@wil seems to be suggesting that attacking AR ownership is in someway supposedly to problems in Chicago where people are killing each other with handguns.

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

wil, your ignorance is on full display today. Not that it isn’t generally but you are really putting forth a special effort today it seems.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

RoyD, You obviously understand what Will does not. Will, the conversation between wil and I is interesting, but more importantly, it is a vehicle. It’s a vehicle to provide information to the voters who politicians spend an incredible amount of money on to get their votes. They don’t care about the votes of rural white men or urban black women – those are the most reliable voting blocks. They care about suburban white women because a large percentage of that voting demographic vacillate back and forth between parties. Suburban white women have been lied to over and over again in… Read more »

Some guy
Some guy
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Information to voters? Why? After what you saw in November? There’s NO more free elections, ever. They aren’t going to allow it, they installed a Chinese sock puppet, right in front of your eyes, or maybe you were on vacation and missed it. Go ahead, waste your time, I’m out.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Some guy

I understand your point of view. I’m going to continue my efforts to host debates and Q&A events with state legislators and provide information to people who are willing to listen to information that is contrary to what they hear from the media, politicians, and late night comedians. A number of people were successful at getting information to voters that led to the defeat (during the primary) of a phony “Pro 2nd Amendment” state legislator and a number of other “big government” state legislators – all Republicans. At the national level, it wouldn’t have taken many vote changes from Biden… Read more »

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

The flaw is democrats are allowed to have guns. Let’s try Switzerland. 8.2 million people 2.8 million guns of which there are a lot of semi and full auto. How many mass shootings are there on a yearly basis?
Your theory doesn’t hold water. It’s a mental thing not a gun thing.

Some guy
Some guy
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Maybe you should move to Sweden then, commie.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Some guy

less likely to be killed in a mass shooting there. this is my country too, I would never tell you to leave regardless of your politics.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Ok, you want to get rid of the AR because you think they cause to many deaths! Start with who pulls the trigger. Read up on how many of them are demonrats and you will see it is demonrats that cause the mass killings. So according to your theory, we need to get rid of all demonrats because they are the ones doing the shooting. Using your own form of logic, this should make total sense to you. Now that is common sense.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

uh…no…I’m all for ar’s for fun or for protection. I am against killing anything unless its to eat it and its done respectfully. I don’t think gun ownership is a party issue in reality, that’s more the narrative they feed us. (in not saying what party I belong too here, apparently you don’t like democrats), but im not your enemy!

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Your reference to an AR as an assault weapon shows who you really AR. There is no auto function. One pull, one shot, it is a semi automatic. It’s the word automatic that screws the whole thing up because people don’t want to hear or understand semi. It’s kinda like biannual. People only understand annual and get lost on the bi.
Using the left’s narrative and word usage is just as good as being the left.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

people believe the “A” in ar stands for assault or automatic, it doesn’t. you can’t tell people what facts are if they don’t want to hear. people think banning guns will solve the issue, it will only better arm the criminal.

Finnky
Finnky
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

@wil – Not sure whether gun control would “better arm” existing criminals – but it certainly would create a huge number of new criminals. Those newly outlawed persons would include all the most heavily armed, and more importantly skilled, people in the country. Not a battle anyone with sense would choose.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

if you take away guns from law abiding citizens then the criminal would be better armed as an effect.
no doubt this better armed “newly outlawed” person would be able to cause plenty of carnage for a few days weeks or maybe months. but in the end you can’t take out an a-10 with an ar.

Considerthis
Considerthis
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Gun Ownership is a party issue, although it should not be. Both parties should recognize and respect the Rights of American Citizens. I have to assume you are a young person with little knowledge or understanding of a struggle that goes back too many years over Second Amendment Rights. I assume you are young because you do not seem to be aware of what the present Infringements on the 2nd Amend. are. You can have all that awesome firepower you dream of, if you have enough money, but every round of 25mm is a NFA ” destructive device ” each… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Considerthis

maybe HE rounds but why would sabot or training rounds need to be an NFA item they don’t explode…more stupid laws that do nothing to address any actual issue. imagine how mad you would be if you found out your kid brother or nephew or someone took it to the local bank to rob the place shot a few rounds to let them know they were serious.
so, when did these gun prohibition laws start anyway?

Considerthis
Considerthis
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

You have taken a step in the right direction. You have asked a question rather than spurting out an opinion. There are a number of books on the subject of gun control available that will answer your question,and questions you never thought of. No matter what you seek to express to other people, learning more will make you more effective in supporting your cause , whatever it is. There is a danger in doing research and learning more though., you can find out that you didn’t know as much as you thought you did. There is also the danger of… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Considerthis

well, (and I hate the people say this) “to be honest” (implies everything else you say is going to be a lie, right?), I usually know the answers to questions I post. if you are looking for generic gun law history I would agree with you timeline. but its deeper than that and goes back further.
only law abiding citizens make efforts to abide by laws. its not like they don’t know that, their approach is solely about what’s good for them republican or democrat.

Considerthis
Considerthis
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

I am not looking for generic gun law history, your question about when did all this gun control start implied a lack of knowledge. I offered a simplistic reply hitting a few high points, easy to understand. Your reply infers that your knowledge is far greater and so I ask you to educate me. Prior to the time that Thompson sub-machine guns were created ( too late for World War One ) and available in hardware stores, and marketed to farmers as a pest control device,.. what were the existing gun control laws ? What did they control ? What… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Considerthis

well I could tell ya’ but I find the information gained through personal research usually is better absorbed and less confrontational if it goes against previously believed information. me asking questions is more about stirring the conversation up a lil.
they and theirs is explained in the same sentence politicians are the ones with all the actual control.

Considerthis
Considerthis
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

The National Firearms Act was the first Federal Gun Control Law. Up until it’s enactment there were only state or municipal laws. Powers not vested to the Federal Government in the constitution were relegated to the individual states. So, yes there were gun control laws in existence prior to the passage of the National Firearms Act. That required no research on this end. If you knew that, you could have said so. I questioned you to get a feel for how much you actually know. Instead you offered a childish excuse that you know but you ain’t tellin’. Very lame.… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Considerthis

well…lemme paraphrase george takei- “oh my”. ..seems to have struck a nerve. but, was that my intention or was i just slightly playing to a stereotype given the circumlocutory nature of your first post. you know the one where i had to be young and unaware of the danger these 2nd Amendment infringements may pose. anyone with two working brain cells can tell you laws are only respected by law abiding citizens. so what’s really at stake, (yes i have an opinion here, but would like to know yours, it’s how these chat rooms work)? so a bay leaf before… Read more »

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  Considerthis

“I questioned you to get a feel for how much you actually know.
Instead you offered a childish excuse that you know but you ain’t tellin’. Very lame.”

Just like when I asked him about some of the particulars regarding his “military service.” He is a troll.

Finnky
Finnky
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

@wil – Don’t have reference in front of me, but analysis of mass shootings shows no significant racial correlation. There is strong correlation to gender, though not all are male. There is also some correlation to age. Don’t take everything in the media at face value – they hype up white males with ARs to point one could be (briefly) forgiven for thinking that that is the only problem. If a PoC woman shoots up a place with a pump shotgun and a revolver – media will either not cover the story, or portray it as a white male with… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

I don’t think statistically mass shootings make up a large portion of the gun deaths by far, they just look more horrific on tv.
but don’t make excuses for why its happening by saying it isn’t just a white male thing. the point I was making was part of a larger conversation, not just about the racial makeup.

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

wil: Maybe in “YOUR” micro-culture you might have “a few rogue individuals that like shooting ar’s at people in public.” Nobody in my “micro-culture” has done so as far as I know.



wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

just so you are up to speed the “micr-culture” in context of my statement is the USA. so the exact micro culture you deny is in fact not true.

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

And once again you try the flim-flam technique to worm your way out of the hole you have burrowed into. You are mildly entertaining but nothing more.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

some things are in fact, facts. can’t help the facts you are presented with equate to a flim-flam. your micro culture is easily mislead!

Knute
Knute
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

I think Wil’s micro-culture requires pinning the blame for their crimes onto their victims. I think he’s been watching a few too many children’s cartoons. Lost his touch with reality.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Only the government has assault weapons and people who paid for the tax stamp who can afford 20,000.00 dollars for an old used one because you cannot buy an new one. We the People have AR 15 etc. Single shot, single pull, there is no assault weapon switch.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

in the military, they tell you not to use “automatic” fire unless you are being over-run. its all fodder for the voters when it comes to bans. what’s to keep people from putting their weapons in trusts so they never have to be turned in. we need ways to address the issue and not the optics.

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Well, wil, I wasn’t aware of your time spent in the Armed Forces of the United States of America. Please tell us the basics. You know, when, where, doing what, for how long. any interesting stories you might care to share. You know, sort of like I have done here on the site in the past. I am waiting with bated breath.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

my time was boring, but time spent nonetheless. are you asking because you don’t believe me, and if proven true would that garner a modicum of respect for me as a person?

RoyD
RoyD
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Oh. Ok.

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

doesn’t answer the question?

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  wil

Put your weapon in a trust. I am not sure what you mean by that. If you mean let the gun dealer lock them up for you and you have to check out your own gun to use it then you are barking up the wrong tree. This is America not Europe. Correction to your statement about what the military says about automatic fire. First off, we are never over run, only out numbered and full auto is used for suppressive fire to move the troops forward at least from a Marine Corps point of view. In addition it takes… Read more »

wil
wil
2 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

a trust is a legal entity in itself that is controlled by the trustee (you). you can designate new trustees/pass them to whoever.
I always shot pop-up targets within a round or two when we shot any kind of suppressive fire training and saved my rounds for the inevitable “free shoot” at the end.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago

Hi Amy we are not going to log onto your unsecured web site, go somewhere else and push your stuff, we don’t want it our you.

Ansel Hazen
Ansel Hazen
2 months ago

Harold and others like him who still can’t see that the left have no intention of working with us at all are the reason we are where we are today. The left put on a good show for as long as they needed to in order to incrementally gain ground for their agenda but now no longer even need to pretend. People like Harold wringing their hands and saying stuff like we need to be polite and work within the system are giving the left just exactly what they want. It buys them time to become even more of a… Read more »

AZ Lefty
AZ Lefty
2 months ago

AW butthurt T-Rumpkins all upset that their Constitution hating Cult leader lost a FAIR election
Grow the hell up! .

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
2 months ago
Reply to  AZ Lefty

AZL,

Thanks for proving everybody’s point that the Right is polite as long as possible and the Left isn’t. Calling names is so Alinsky. So is lying.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  AZ Lefty

Hey wait a minute. You are the left, you don’t know what the constitution is, to you it’s just a word that you want to erase. Just like your leaders. Swear to uphold the constitution while saying they are going to take guns away. If you do that, you don’t support the constitution and if you want to kill babies, you don’ t support Gods law but it takes logic, reasoning and common sense to realize that which is just a few things that democrats are lacking.

Arny
Arny
2 months ago
Reply to  AZ Lefty

It just might be your candidate next time. Or possibly already has been, Bernie Bro, Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Chan, etc ? And you’re to ignorant to see it. Or maybe you’re brainwashed by the corrupt media (CEYEA). If you supported Biden knowing of his corruption (China & Ukrane) than you’re just as criminal as he is. You don’t see crackhead Hunter as a national security risk ? Maybe take the time to watch the video. It’s out there for the world to see. You may regret your comment soon enough. When people don’t have jobs how are you going to… Read more »

Mike Moto
Mike Moto
2 months ago
Reply to  AZ Lefty

another chicom paid troll living with mommy and mommy

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 months ago
Reply to  AZ Lefty

AZLefty, you need to “grow up!”

You have one god-awful definition of “FAIR.” Nor do you have the sloggiest [for your feeble brain, that’s halfway between “slightest” and “foggiest”] understanding of the term butthurt… although you desperately need it to be demonstrated to you, at the first opportunity.

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ras52
ras52
2 months ago

We are to be polite to democrats who are some of the rudest, most hateful liars on earth? I don`t think so! Give to them twice what they give to us!

Grim
Grim
2 months ago
Reply to  ras52

I will be polite right up to the time someone shows up at my front door to confiscate my firearms.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago

“Second Amendment supporters need to act, politely engaging with their fellow Americans, preparing to work inside political parties at the precinct, local,, and state levels, and support the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action and Political Victory Fund to prepare for the next election battles.”

No, Harold, Second Amendment supporters do not need to support the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action and Political Victory Fund. If we do, we will end up with more people like Cornyn:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/president-trump-calls-comprehensive-gun-bill

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Ronnie
Ronnie
2 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Watching that video – makes me so mad – cant Believe they are NOT LISTENING TO THEMSELVES — Its the INDIVIDUALS that ARE THE PROBLEM ! They are Mentally UNFIT !- You can Ban EVERYTHING YOU WANT – It would NOT STOP A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON FROM KILLING OTHERS ! They Will Find A WAY TO DO IT = Whether its A”BUMPSTOCK” or A “SILENCER’ ( its All B.S.) These POLITICAINS Are going around OUR CONSTITIUTION ! And Little By Little TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHTS !!!!And DJT Fkd Up Doing this BUMP-STOCK Ban ! Its a P.O.S.! IT DOES NOT… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  Ronnie

Ronnie are you now truly pissed off enough to get directly involved in the battles? Immediately removing these cretins from office by way of grand jury indictment for violations of their oath of office, rather than waiting to vote them out of office like most if the ignorant and uninformed dumbasses do?

Last edited 2 months ago by USMC0351Grunt
JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

USMC0351Grunt,
Like giving money to the NRA or telling “civilians” they should not be allowed to have body armor?

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
2 months ago
Reply to  Ronnie

All of the gun control laws proposed in that meeting and the ones described on Biden’s campaign website are based on lies. Neither Cornyn (rated “A” by the NRA) or Rubio (rated A+ by the NRA) made any argument during the meeting explaining why the laws being proposed won’t work. They did, however, recommend anti-2nd Amendment laws of their own. The next time they run for office they will, again, say they are “Pro 2nd Amendment” and the NRA (if it is able to convince people to give them enough money to keep going) will support them. Even Boebert, who… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
2 months ago

– We are quickly getting past point of politely engaging th3 political opposition. We are instead approaching the point where the 40+ central states politely disengage from the controlling coasts. Call it secession, divorce, disengagement, exitUS or whatever you want. Name doesn’t matter, but being pushed past limits does and action will likely be required.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

Oh, please, please, please put the nail in it and get it over with so I know where to move. A lot of people say Idaho but there is a bunch of commies from kommiefornia moving to Boise as we speak. We know how the big cities rule the remaining republican counties in all of the states that have demoncrap rule. I wish the states that are tired of this B.S. would get together and make a pact that says we are not going to give up our AR and we will not enforce your B.S. laws.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Review the Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution. If you understand it correctly you’ll realize that if Congress doesn’t pass a law, (Meaning the process that takes place because apathetic Americans don’t get off their dead ass and stop bad legislation from occurring) is left up to the states or We the People meaning, WE THE PEOPLE are the bottom line to make any and ALL decisions that’s going to directly affect our lives and our personal sovereignty or dictate the direction of this country. The British tried to take our guns and you saw what happened there, do… Read more »

Grim
Grim
2 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Nope! 500 million civilian owned firearms in this country, the citizens have voted. “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”
Want my guns? Bring your lunch.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

i am supprised you refer to the 10th amendment with all the crap that has been going on. We don’t need the tenth anymore because the president can sign almost anything he wants in with the stroke of a pen, if he/she is the demonrat president he can sign everything he wants in with the stroke of a pen and demonrat judges don’t stop but support it. DACA for instance. We stopped owning the government years ago and they now own us and they make rules that we don’t want on a daily basis that is how we got to… Read more »

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Thanks to whoever straightened out the order of paragraphs.. Oh, I forgot to mention, kommiefornia and Oregone are perfect examples of the government in charge. I am pretty sure you don’t live on either coast. When kommiefornia voted that you cannot have a driver license unless you are a documented citizen or in the state/country legally, the government decided that the people were wrong and did not let the law take effect. What the people voted for. In Oregone we had the same dam thing happen here but the people stood up and won so then the governor did an… Read more »

Last edited 2 months ago by musicman44mag