Louisiana Governor Bel Edwards Vetoes Constitutional Carry, SB118

LA Looks to Reduce "Gun Free Zones"
Louisiana Senate passed constitutional carry yesterday. IMG iStock-884171322

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Media sources in Louisiana are reporting Governor Bel Edwards has vetoed SB118, the Constitutional Carry bill, as he previously stated he would. From the advertiser.com:

Democratic Gov. John Bel Edwards has vetoed a bill to allow people to carry concealed handguns in Louisiana without a permit or training, which could fuel a growing movement for a veto-override session from the Republican-controlled Legislature.

The bill would restore the right to carry loaded handguns, openly or concealed to Louisiana. Louisiana was one of the first states to deny people the right to carry concealed weapons, in the early 1800s.

Slavery was common in Louisiana before it became a state, or part of U.S. territory with the Louisiana Purchase in 1803.  Slavery continued there until the end of the Civil War. The prohibition on concealed carry was passed on 25 March, 1813, in the second session of the first state legislature.  Kentucky passed a similar law earlier in 1813. The Kentucky law was later ruled to be unconstitutional in Bliss v. Commonwealth, in 1822.

There were no laws against concealed or open carry in the states or federal government before that time. It was not until the Supreme Court ruled the Bill of Rights did not apply to State governments, that bans on concealed carry became common, in the 1830s.

Now that Governor Edwards has vetoed Constitutional Carry, the question becomes whether there will be a veto session from July 20 to as late as July 24.

A veto session is scheduled; however, either house can cancel it by having a majority of legislators declare, in writing, they do not wish a veto session.

No veto session has been held since the 1974 Constitution was put in place. Two vetoes have been overridden, but they occurred when the legislature was in session.

Two-thirds of both houses are needed to override a veto in Louisiana. In the House, 70 votes are needed. In the Senate, 26 are needed.

It is possible that enough independents and Democrats would join with the Republicans to override a veto of Constitutional Carry in the House.

In the Senate, the Republicans should have enough votes. Some legislators are already pushing for the veto session to be held. They have to convince majorities in each house *not* to vote against a veto session.

The Republicans have strong majorities in both houses. If a veto session is rejected, it will be because enough Republicans joined with Democrats to reject it.

Constitutional Carry has been restored in 20 states, with the Texas law to go into effect on 1 September, 2021. Vermont has always had Constitutional Carry, since before it became a state, making 21 states which have a reasonable approximation of the state of law which existed when the Second Amendment was ratified in 1791. Most states with Constitutional Carry laws have small areas where carry is not allowed, such as prisons, parts of law enforcement facilities, some courtrooms, and private property where proper notice is given.

There are some states which prohibit carry without a permit in a small percentage of public areas, such as places that serve alcohol or even, surprisingly, churches!

It is almost certain more than 20 million adult citizens now have carry permits. 21 states have restored the right to carry without a permit in most public areas.

Incremental reforms will continue.


About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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HLB
HLB
1 month ago

My reading of the open carry situation in Louisiana is that you can open carry except where it is prohibited by grandfathered municipal restrictions. The preemption situation is confusing. Does any one know how that applies in Louisiana?

HLB

RJL
RJL
1 month ago

Another Ani-Constitutionalist….

JimmyS
JimmyS
1 month ago

“Constitutional carry” has existed since long before there was a Constitution. Stop asking for permission to exercise your rights. When the People act like children, the government will happily act like parents.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyS

The government trained their sheep well, Lol.

Very good take on reality friend!

Green Mtn. Boy
Green Mtn. Boy
1 month ago

Time for the people of Louisiana to Veto Gov. John Bel Edwards,well bye tyrant.

JohnLloydScharf
JohnLloydScharf
1 month ago
Reply to  Green Mtn. Boy

LA has a very low rate of literacy. I researched the district in NOLA where “Dollar Bill Jefferson” was elected. It compared with Iraq, one of the lowest on the planet.

Grigori
Grigori
1 month ago

Boy, someone went apeshit with the downvote button. I did what I could for you guys.

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Grigori

???

Grigori
Grigori
29 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

When I first came here, everyone but JimmyS below me had been downvoted by someone.

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago

It’s misleading to call such bills Constitutional Carry until “gun free” zones are abolished, including for businesses open to the public.  In 1789 there were few if any “gun free” zones, which are where nearly all shooting sprees happen. Killers do not respect the “right” of “private” property owners to leave victims defenseless in places open to the public. indeed, they seek out such zones.  There’s no unqualified right to risk public safety. Café owners have no right to serve rat crap, insects & rancid grease. Homeowners have no unqualified right to breed mosquitoes or dump raw sewage on front lawns. Too… Read more »

JohnLloydScharf
JohnLloydScharf
1 month ago

Slaves are not allowed to vote on the issues or carry a firearm.

JimmyS
JimmyS
1 month ago

Votes are for suckers. Sovereigns issue declarations. You seem to declare that you’re a sucker.

JohnLloydScharf
JohnLloydScharf
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyS

You are a troll. Informed consent is for individuals. You seem to celebrate the fact you are a slave.

Russn8r
Russn8r
25 days ago

Yet you have a slave mentality, preaching that it’s our “Christian” duty to OBEY tyrannical orders. You’re far guiltier than slaves who think those orders are righteous.

JohnLloydScharf
JohnLloydScharf
25 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

WRONG. I see the slave REALITY. I am guilty of being truthful. AGAIN; LIAR, I cited Romans 13 to deny you have any rights given by GOD, Liar. I did not claim Christians are to obey unrighteous orders, you liar. You are deluded as well as a liar. You gullible free range slaves, who Congress can conscript at any point pretend you are free. I cite history from Washington murdering Sergeants whose enlistment ended to when Gen. Dwight Eisenhower endorsed the finding of a court-martial in the case of Eddie Slovik, who was tried for desertion, and authorizes his execution,… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
25 days ago

You’re scharting out of both sides as usual. You repeatedly said it’s our duty to OBEY, and folks who revolt against tyranny are not Christians. Don’t be coy, slave boy.

Last edited 25 days ago by Russn8r
Cam
Cam
1 month ago

A friend use to say “It’s hard to soar like an eagle when your surrounded by turkeys” I think it should be changed to “it’s hard to be free when your surrounded by communists!”

JohnLloydScharf
JohnLloydScharf
1 month ago
Reply to  Cam

You live in a republic where you are misrepresented by candidates your party picked for you to vote for. You support that republican form of government with no vote. You ARE the turkey on a free range turkey farm where you pay for a cage that attracts predators because the farmer in charge baits those invaders at the border. Republics are a pack of wolves who put mutton and lamb on the menu. You are the sheep and your unborn or children are the lambs. There is no history of freedom in the US; just the delusion. The Constitution empowered… Read more »

JohnLloydScharf
JohnLloydScharf
1 month ago

Pathetic downvotes with no argument I count as a declaration of the validity of my irrefutable arguments. Thank you.
“The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.” Selwyn Duke May 6, 2009 on Radio Host Mikchael Savage being banned from UK for “extreme views.” 

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
1 month ago

In response to: “It was not until the Supreme Court ruled the Bill of Rights did not apply to State governments” Colorado Supreme Court says they have never once considered the moving target of federal jurisprudence in a gun case which raises an obvious question as to why in the hell have attorneys never enforced 2A in Colorado. All of the whining about unconstitutional gun control in Colorado and yet not a single 2A case and the Colorado Supreme Court is on record saying that under 2A all gun control is unconstitutional. With these facts laid out a complete dumb… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Patriot Solutions
musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago

It’s wrong to deny an entire state the right to carry constitutionally because of a bad city or cities. It’s a right that should never have been taken away in the first place. The people back in the 1830’s should have nipped it in the bud back then.

I am tired of having my freedom’s removed because of the few bad apples that mess it up for the majority. We have to get off of that type of thinking. That type of thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place.

From portland, the shithole of OreGONEIANS>

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
1 month ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

People have long accepted that rights be criminalized through their actions in the jury box. When the government sets loose Chippy on them we will hear the victims screaming that they have rights, well, at least the ones who are still alive will scream. Bad Apples are one thing but in listening, reading and watching federal 2A cases it is obvious that their powers according to them are unlimited and without any restraint whatsoever but to at least some degree Trump produced EO’s that are going into affect to help get the train back on the tracks of which can… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Patriot Solutions