ATF Raids & Force Reset Triggers, Additional Info, Updates & Corrections

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ATF Raids & Force Reset Triggers, Additional Info, Updates & Corrections

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- AmmoLand News and I recently reported that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) went to, (“Raided”), Big Daddy Unlimited (BDU), and Rare Breed Triggers and seized their stock of forced reset triggers.

That report was not correct, the ATF never went to Rare Breed manufaturing.

The ATF did go to Big Daddy Unlimited and seized their Wide Open Trigger inventory as confirmed by BDU employees to AmmoLand News and independently to Youtuber Gun & Gadgets, but they did NOT go to Rare Breed as was initially reported.

The visit by ATF to Big Daddy came just as Rare Triggers won a preliminary injunction against Wide Open Enterprises for patent infringement stopping the Big Daddy Enterprise’s subsidiary from selling its popular forced reset triggers known as the Wide Open Trigger.  Rare Breed argued to the courts that Big Daddy Enterprises infringed on the patent of its FRT-15 trigger. The preliminary injunction said that only Rare Breed could produce a forced reset trigger because they were the only other company to make one. The judge was mistaken on that fact. There are other companies that produce forced reset triggers.

Background

In July of last year, 2021, the ATF served Rare Breed Triggers with a cease and desist order ordering the company to stop selling its popular FRT-15 trigger. The company refused to comply with the ATF’s demands and filed a lawsuit in federal court against the ATF. The state tried to block Rare Breed Trigger’s evidence by arguing that the administrative record was closed because of the lawsuit. The ATF did re-open the record twice to add videos and other things after the suit was filed. That case was dismissed after Rare Breed Trigger and the government missed a filing deadline. A judge also denied Rare Breed Trigger’s initial preliminary injunction against the ATF and the Department of Justice.

In that initial order, ATF claimed that force reset triggers are machine guns. The ATF used its own discretion to determine that the FRT-15 is a machine gun. A forced reset trigger works by the bolt pushing the trigger forward, thus resetting the trigger. This arbitrary ruling by ATF is very similar to how the ATF determined that bump stocks were machine guns.

Force reset trigger popped up on the radar when an ATF employee, working in the Washington, DC office, noticed a YouTube video showing a rifle with Rare Breed’s FRT-15 installed firing. That employee contacted the ATF’s Technical Branch to see if Rare Breed had obtained an opinion letter from the ATF.

Rare Breed based its opinion on the legality of the trigger based on outside experts’ opinions and not an internal determination by the ATF’s Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division’s (FATD).

FATD informed the ATF employee that they had not examined the trigger, but it most likely would be considered a machine gun. Months went by without further action, but the ATF employee would not be undeterred. He would reach out to the local ATF field office in Florida to push for an examination of the FRT-15 trigger.

The ATF’s FATD examination was further delayed by the public demand for the FRT-15 trigger, ATF could not get their hands on one to test. The Bureau was forced to use Gun Broker to purchase two triggers to test. Sources report that ATF tested the trigger by using a zip tie to secure the trigger back. The trigger continued to fire. Some in the gun community point out that plastic is flexible, so it was actually pulling the trigger multiple times.

Important to Note: Current Owners of Forced Reset Triggers are NOT Violating the law at this time.

The ATF has not released any letters to the public about the legal status of owning a forced reset trigger, although there is insider speculation those letters may be forthcoming.

On the same day as I reported on the site visits by ATF, we also received another document from alternate sources within the ATF marked “LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE,” dated January 13, 2022. (embedded below) That document is what the ATF will send out to all police departments in the country. The ATF again calls all force reset triggers machine-gun-conversion devices in that document.

The document further states that forced reset triggers are machine guns under federal law. The ATF once more says that the shooter does not need to release the trigger to fire another round after the first round is fired. The Bureau says the firearm will automatically cycle.

The ATF document reads:

“FRTs are generally marketed as replacement triggers for AR-type or other semiautomatic firearms. Unlike traditional triggers and binary triggers (sometimes also referred to as FRTs), the subject FRTs do not require shooters to pull and then subsequently release the trigger to fire a second projectile. Instead, these FRTs utilize the automatic firing cycle inherent in the trigger design to eliminate the need for the shooter to release the trigger before a second round may be fired.”

The document gives two examples, with photos. of the triggers that the ATF is telling law enforcement are machine guns. The first trigger image is the Rare Breed FRT-15 trigger. The second example trigger is the competing Wide Open Trigger sold by Big Daddy Unlimited.

Note the document is dated the exact date that the ATF showed up to Big Daddy Unlimited.

In AmmoLand News’ correspondence with Rare Breed Owner, Kevin Maxwell, he stated the company sent a letter to the ATF to add its evidence to the administrative record on November 2, 2021, since the lawsuit was dismissed.  The ATF responded on November 15, 2021, that it received Rare Breed’s request. Rare Breed Triggers requested an update on December 12, 2021.  The ATF did not respond.



Maxwell believes the newly revealed document apparently being sent to law enforcement will be the only response that Rare Breed Triggers will receive.  The company is preparing to file another lawsuit against the ATF.

“A new lawsuit against the ATF is being prepared and will be filed shortly. RBT is not backing down,” Maxwell told AmmoLand News. “We feel the ATF is overreaching its legal authority by its intentional misclassification of the FRT-15.”

AmmoLand News would like to repeat that mistakes were made in the initial reporting and Rare Breed had NO visits by ATF.

We will provide additional updates as the story develops.

(U/LES/TAX) Forced Reset Triggers (FRTs) ATF Document Jan 13, 2022


About John Crump

John is an NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.John Crump

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Dubhglas

Stop freaking out for [email protected]$k sake… This is only a case of patent infringement and the lawful seizure of the item thereof. Calm your tits. Asset Forfeiture ATF has the authority to seize and forfeit firearms, ammunition, explosives, alcohol, tobacco and other assets used in criminal activity under the Department of Justice’s Asset Forfeiture authority.  MANAGEMENT OF SEIZED ASSETS AND EVIDENCE BY THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES EXECUTIVE SUMMARY The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) law enforcement functions were transferred on January 24, 2003, from the Department of the Treasury (Treasury) to the Department… Read more »

Rowboat

Ok, I’m all in ! Where’s the rally point, what’s the Rules of Engagement and most importantly, who’s gonna lead ?

Wild Bill

I think that I see your point. Whomever says “I’ll lead. Form up at my house and bring your Militia Standard Rifle!” will be in the U.S. Marshalls’ lock up within 24 hours.
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TStheDeplorable

The real problem is the line of Supreme Court cases that allow the congress to punt significant policy issues to unelected agency employees. Congress should decide if FRTs are legal, not the people who make their livings by arresting people for gun crimes. Basically the congress has said, “It is a felony to do whatever those guys over in that building say is a felony.”

CourageousLion

You may find that they are all incorporated for profit entities too. And talk about profit…making a 200 tax violation into one that they claim they can charge you 250 THOUSAND for…

CourageousLion

What would you expect an agency that lies to say? Liars lie. What a surprise. These “statutory” limitations on our rights to own or possess an object need to be nullified by “lawmakers” or juries. We need to DEMAND our COMMON LAW COURTS back where the only crime you can be tried and convicted of would be one where there is a VICTIM involved. We need to get that through our dense skulls. NO VICTIM NO CRIME. NO CRIME…NOT GUILTY. http://fija.org Seriously, where is a DAMAGED PARTY with the owning or possession of a “machine gun”, a short barrel rifle,… Read more »

Laddyboy

AGREED!

Watch um

I watched the video and the trigger is not make the firearm a machine gun

Watch um

Does not

Wild Bill

That is ok. We knew what you meant.

CourageousLion

Yeah, but doesn’t it make more sense to explain to a new person here how to edit their comment? I may have known what he meant but…

Country Boy

Click on the paper clip in the bottom right hand corner. Edit option appears.

Last edited 2 months ago by Country Boy
CourageousLion

If you hover your cursor over the bottom right of your comment you will see something that looks like a little gear. Click on it and you can edit your post to fix typos and miss spellings. Or add or subtract from your comment.

DIYinSTL

Misspelling (verb), not “miss spellings” used as a noun. Perhaps you should edit your post to fix grammar. I suggest just “spelling” or “spelling errors.”

swmft

all totalitarian and anti american

Samwooly

Need to edit a statement above. It says one pull of trigger for one round is a machine gun. This is absolutely incorrect

Deplorable Bill

A well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state, the RIGHT (not privilege) to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The second amendment, THE law of the land. The batfe and any other government entente has absolutely NO AUTHORITY per the constitution to hamper, delay or deny any free American citizen the right to keep and bear arms and anything else a militia would use. Cannon, aircraft, sea craft, automatic weapons etc. are included in what a militia would use.

Arm up and carry on

Wild Bill

Perfectly stated! Perfectly!!

swmft

tactical nuke and a howitzer

CourageousLion

First off, who could afford either? If we didn’t have the system we have today, no one could and if they could why would they? A howitzer “may” be defensive but a tactical nuke is in no way defensive. It would be for aggression or retaliation from an attacker. It’s like this…when I was in the police academy (yeah, I was one of those guys for about 6 months until they labelled me a “Serpico”, which I proudly claim I was) we were told that if a person had a knife and pulled back to throw it at you you… Read more »

Wild Bill

Re: nukes, in theory yes; financially, no. Re: howitzers, every family should have one!
Execpt apartment dwellers. They will have to put up with SAWs or M60s.

CourageousLion

Yeah, those should be inexpensive and easy to purchase. Maybe in a wet dream.

Wild Bill

I thought that you were the one that wrote, “We the people need to dump the Federal government.”
And we have them, here, in Texas.

Rock

Just a tad bit sarcastic…. I believe we KNOW what was implied.

CourageousLion

Where is the militia? Oh, I know, the DICK ACT did away with it. And we went from COMMON LAW about then to STATUTORY BS TYRANNY!

swmft

in violation of constitution and title 18 protections without a single gooberment criminal jailed

moe mensale

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state, the RIGHT (not privilege) to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The second amendment, THE law of the land.”

Just a minor point. That’s not the 2nd Amendment. Try again, Skippy.

Wild Bill

All this caused by one ATF agent in the Washington, DC office watching U-tube videos! Is watching videos during the duty day in his job description?

swmft

yes ,they have people who do nothing but look around internet, for whatever they are trolls

CourageousLion

Probably. It is also where they keep seeing folks put the “stock” of a “pistol” AR or other weapon to their shoulder.

Arizona

Error. You incorrectly stated, “The definition of a machine gun is one round per trigger pull.” That is a semi-automatic.

As for the FrT, it is a semi-auto, despite the false allegations by the biden aft.

swmft

next president needs to dump atf

CourageousLion

We the people need to dump the Federal government.

PMinFl

The last one didn’t.