Editorial Says Govt. Would Defeat Armed Rebellion by Making Major Cities Disappear

By David Codrea

Nuclear War
Goodbye, Dallas. You’re next, Atlanta. Armed resistance to demonic monsters who would do this is futile, so why even try? Right?
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USA – -(Ammoland.com)- “The idea of ‘armed rebellion’ in the U.S. is ludicrous,” opinion column writer Gregg Littell declares in The Union.

His stated intent is to debunk Ben Carson’s claim that “America will never suffer under tyranny because the people are armed.”

The reason, according to “gun owner and target shooter” Littell, is because unlike in Revolutionary War times, “the arms disparity between a ‘tyrannical government’ and citizens is so huge that the idea of ‘armed rebellion’ is ludicrous.

He keeps using that word.  After reading the rest of his insane rant, an Inigo Montoya line comes to mind. Because in the past, when subjected to “Resistance is futile” Borg declarations from “progressive” keyboard commandos pointing out the government, after all, has nukes, I’ve noted none of them ever seem to go beyond that platitude and flesh out the full scenario for us.

Refreshingly, Littell has no problem going full totalitarian:

Assuming the military was part of the tyranny (which it would have to be for tyranny to have any meaning), any rebelling national band of “patriots” would be told something like, “you either lay down your arms or the entire city of Dallas, Texas will disappear. You have one hour. If you continue, the next city to disappear will be Atlanta, Georgia.”

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look back upon the Act depriving the whole nation of arms as the blackest."
“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look back upon the Act depriving the whole nation of arms as the blackest.”

No, Littell pontificates, the only thing that will save us from such ruthless tyranny would be to employ Gandhi’s tactics, as if totalitarians who would wipe out city after city in order to bend all to their will would suddenly be thwarted by peaceful refusals to report to work. That not only brings to mind Gandhi’s sentiments on government depriving people of arms, but also evokes a truism from colleague Mike Vanderboegh on his Sipsey Street Irregulars blog:

Had the Japanese got as far as India, Gandhi’s theories of “passive resistance” would have floated down the Ganges River with his bayoneted, beheaded carcass.

Still, Littell went to the trouble of outlining his “final solution” (how come those always seem, to involve mass exterminations?), so instead of just dismissing it outright, why not examine it?

I don’t know what makes him think the hotbed of militia activity is either Dallas or Atlanta. It seems the nuanced decentralized and distributed nature of modern resistance options vs. infantry squares escapes him, but if he thinks he’s going to wipe out opposition by vaporizing cities that respectively voted overwhelmingly for Obama and that both belong to Bloomberg’s Mayors Against (Your) Guns, he may want to reexamine his premises.

While he’s at it, he may also wish to explain to The Union readers why his grand plan for demanding obedience disproportionately kills minorities in comparison to demographics for the general population: Per 2010 race and ethnicity stats, non-Hispanic whites make up 63.7% of the U.S. population. In Dallas, they comprise and 50.7%, and in Atlanta, 41.8%. That’s a lot of black and brown people Littell envisions incinerated in order to force presumably white “patriots” to toe his line. A lot of Democrats, too, and a lot of politicians, police, teachers, doctors, firefighters, union members, children, elderly…

If that type of directed “collateral damage” doesn’t qualify as genocide/war crimes, then the concepts are meaningless. The U.S. government has come up with war justifications by accusing Saddam Hussein and Bashar al-Assad of much smaller extermination efforts against “their own people.” What American wouldn’t take up arms against such monsters doing that on a huge scale here? Aside from traitors and despicable cowards?

And since Littell brought up the subject of the military carrying out his deranged little genocide fantasy, perhaps he could also address how the Uniform Code of Military Justice only requires obeying lawful commands, and how “I was just following orders” hasn’t worked since Nuremberg. Maybe, since he’s been so right about everything else, he could give us a credible estimate of how many would obey orders to level Dallas and Atlanta and more, as opposed to placing the crazy Commander in Chief proposing such insanity under arrest.

What makes him confident that service personnel – even those who aren’t active Oath Keepers – would set off nukes in places where many of them have family?

He might also let us know how many military personnel will have to be redeployed domestically from overseas and what will happen to the areas of operation they vacate (along with how that will impact U.S. foreign policy and strategic defense capabilities). It would probably also be a good idea to give a best guess about what opportunistic “competitors” Russia and China will be doing, as well as outright enemies like the Islamic State.

And we can’t forget the economic collapse.

It would be incalculable, enough to bring any administration down simply by the millions suddenly in the streets. And it will directly impact the guys who pull the politicians’ strings.

But the most insane disconnect from reality is that armed citizens wouldn’t stand a chance.  The guy has been wrong about everything else, so we might as well see if he’s finally on to something.

He may also wish to explain to The Union readers why his grand plan for demanding obedience disproportionately kills minorities in comparison to demographics for the general population.
He may also wish to explain to The Union readers why his grand plan for demanding obedience disproportionately kills minorities in comparison to demographics for the general population.

There’s something like 100M gun owners. A growing movement is built around the estimate that Three Percent of the population took to the field in the Revolutionary War, and that was enough to drive out the most powerful empire in the world.  Say that’s high, and let’s cut things back to just one percent.

That’s a million angry guys with guns, and they’re for the most part the serious ones, who have prepared and trained, many with extensive military backgrounds.

With the understanding that such citizens are everywhere, prepared to act on their own initiative on targets at times and places of their choosing, situations for the shot-callers and their functionaries, as well as those providing supplies and services to enable the logistics of a tyranny, suddenly become problematic. They also become personally dangerous, for them and for their protectors. And with up to 20% of cops going AWOL during times of localized trouble like Katrina, imagine how defections would grow if opposition sprang up everywhere, and if they had personal skin in the game.

Wait a minute – am I talking about assassinating politicians all the way to the top, along with bureaucrats, soldiers and police, and even civilian support personnel and facilities?  

Using Bill Clinton’s rules of engagement, we could even include enemy propagandists.

Hey, it’s not my scenario, it’s Littell’s. His hypothetical tyrants are vaporizing innocent human beings and leveling cities. They’re the monsters acting as domestic enemies, outside of the restraints (and the protections) of the Constitution, criminally depriving Americans of life, liberty and property.  Hell yes I’d shoot an evil mandarin or a thug minion doing that, and any politician, bureaucrat, citizen, solider or police officer worth his salt would be joining me.

So what chance would such a resistance stand, despite Littell’s “expert” opinion? Recall that Muhammad and Malvo kept the Beltway region in a panic for weeks, with the head LEO allowing his racial bias to expend resources looking for the wrong profile. Recall that cops in SoCal ended up shooting at newspaper delivery women in their panic, while the shooter they were looking for—one of their own, and a “gun control” advocate and Obama/Hillary admirer at that – eluded them in spite of letting everyone know who he was in a “manifesto.”

Now imagine a million armed Americans with better sense than that, intent on restoring the Constitution and capable of selecting legitimate oppressor, equipment and infrastructure targets supporting the bloodthirsty tyranny Littell envisions. There just aren’t enough bodyguards and sentries.

When I first ran across this “editorial,” I was hoping it was just a satire, and I’d somehow missed the point, but Littell has played “the nuclear card” before when advocating “common sense [gun] reforms” and disparaging armed resistance to tyranny. And what he doesn’t grok is that the line in the sand for those of us who will not comply is mass enforcement of the very edicts he endorses. That would not be possible without a nationwide program to collect the firearms and magazines he maintains would be useless.

No, to anyone contemplating that, including proponents of a nuclear deterrent. We will not comply. Your move.

 

David Codrea in his natural habitat.

About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and also posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Paul

I have to laugh whenever anyone uses the “arms disparity” argument. All one has to do is look at the U.S. military experiences in VietNam, Iraq and Afghanistan to know that technological superiority is no match for a population dedicated to defeating an oppressor with whatever weapons are available. The whole purpose of guerrilla warfare is to harass and demoralize an opponent and then disappear into the cover of a normal seeming life. Guerrilla warriors in America could tie up a regular army with all its blockbuster bombs,cruise missiles, drones, Humvees and other paraphernalia as easily as the simple people… Read more »

John de Nugent

Unfortunately, I must disagree with the author and agree with Littell, whose Jewish ethnicity is by the way not being even mentioned. The bolsheviks rounded up wives and children of resistance fighters as hostages and shot them. The British did the same with Boer women and civilians, and 10,000 starved to death in what the British called “concentration camps” (their neologism). Eventually the Boer fighters came out, pitying their wives, sisters, mothers and kids, and laid their weapons down. As for military compliance, 1) our top ranks are now full of practicing satanists, pedophiles and homosexual militants ( I am… Read more »

rev_dave

What an idiot. I’ll bet he lives in a big city, but not Dallas or Atlanta. So all we’d have to do is to give the impression that the ‘resistance’ is active in DC, New York and Chicago. The more cities are destroyed, the less economy there is to support the tyrants, less friendly territory for them, less to rule and less safety. And it will turn everyone left against the government so that the tyrants and their minions and propagandists will be the only supporters surviving – but only until we find them.

Son of Liberty

Like so many genuinely hardcore, true-believer collectivists trumpeting this scenatio, he considers the lives of others – including the employees of the government, many of who live in cities – expendable for HIS cause. He is a mental masturbator at best. A coward at worst.

Cargosquid

They keep forgetting that the Constitution is there to protect the politicians. It’s the only thing that makes their actions legitimate. Otherwise, they are merely tyrants seeking control.

LarryArnold

It’s an interesting game. I’ve noticed that folks I’ve seen make this argument tend to be Democrats considering a Democratic takeover, for the good of the People. But; Suppose the political winds shift, and Republicans win big, to the point they gain a super majority in both houses of Congress, and the White House. Suppose that leads to a very conservative majority on the Supreme Court. And suppose religious conservatives take over the Republican Party; Suppose after a couple of election cycles Congress decides that, since they are writing laws based on the Ten Commandments, God doesn’t want them to… Read more »

Carl Gulledge

For this idiot that wants to destroy America, please let him begin. It is unthinkable that anyone in his right mind would even dream of these thi8ngs. I wonder if he thinks the gun owners of this wonderful country of ours will sit or stand by and let some asshole destroy that which so many brave military people have sacrificed their lives for. I served in the U.S. Army for 12 years before I received a medical discharge. I promise that I WILL NOT STAND BY AND LET THIS DIRT BAG RUN ROUGH SHOD OVER THE COUNTRY THAT I FOUGHT… Read more »

Rob M

if the govt destroyed cities. theyd only be hurting their corporate friends – not anyone who is willing to die for freedom anyway….lmao

Will

I’m saying that destroying the big cities, i.e. LA, Chicago, Detroit would dramatically decrease gun violence. Thus, allowing the rest of us decent to live in relative peace.

Unclezip

Although I agree with most of what you write (although you forget that brevity is your friend), you forget the base rule: Don’t give them credence. Don’t acknowledge them. Ignore them.

Brent Bushardt

Mr. Codrea damn well said sir! I wish that I could write as you do, but I cannot. I am a simple man that served in the Army and one who has read a little about the unique character of the American Republic that I swore an Oath to defend. I am one of that 3% and I will proudly add my name to that list.

SGT Chas

All here might find it interesting that the destruction that will happen here was fortold long ago. You might enjoy this:
https://thewatchmansbiblestudy.blogspot.com/2013/11/america-in-prophecy-new-world-order.html

Henry

It doesn’t matter whether they threaten to level Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, or Manhattan — every CITY they destroy just reduces America’s socialist quotient. Cities are easy, dipwads. Come out to where America’s spirit of resistance resides, and see how well you do there.

Stan

The government will threaten us with nuking major population centers?
Isn’t that akin to Japan in WWII threatening the US with the declaration that we be compliant or they would wipe out Germany?

d

A target rich environment..and GOD will not save those that are in the cross hairs…for they are the evil that must be cleansed….imho

Jeff

Lets say that there are some out here that have amassed billions of “Dollars”. Now destroy the middle class and the economy, the “Dollar” now has no value, so if you are holding “Dollars”, what do you have? Nada, nothing, unless you are holding Gold. Then you better have it in your hand, not in some fund, or group holding it for you. Americans will not be slaves for someone who wants to be special. Individuals provide the food and electric grid, fuel, water. Try to get it on your own without help from the “little” people. Let me die… Read more »

A.B Prosper

Dude there is way out of touch with political reality. Not even the USSR or The Chi-Coms would consider using nukes on their own soil and they were more bat-spit crazy than the anyone. . No one would since you can’t rule over a radioactive wasteland. And they can’t use germ warfare either simply because it would kill mostly people they want to rule over. Some use of gas is possible I suppose but as Assad found out , it doesn’t help, most of and it guarantees at best extermination if caught. Also as for passive non violent resistance, that… Read more »

A. Patriot

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DrDog09

Littell ought to examine the demographics of the cities he nukes. Democrat power comes from the blue cities. Nuke them and for the most part the Democrat power base vaporizes — literally. Unless of course they can use the dead again. I say, launch on MFer, its your own political demise you advocate.

Travis Lee

While it is tempting to simply dismiss the ravings of this Littell man, It must be remembered that as a member of the Fifth Column, Fourth Estate class, he is either parroting what his cocktail party friends in government mumble after three martinis, or he is trying to toady up to them by advancing their agenda. For decades the gun grabbers/gun banners have denied any desire to confiscate privately owned guns, and have claimed that only paranoiacs could possibly believe that our government could turn tyrannical and genocidal. Litrell’s ravings indicate very clearly what the collectivists would LIKE to do,… Read more »

David McElroy

Even in the face of certain defeat, many of us will firmly grip our guns to the very end, hoping to make the bastards pay with their lives as often as possible before we go down! Never go quietly. Never surrender your guns!

Arizona

I would suggest YOU START LISTENING TO GODS PROPHETS,you call your selves christians??yet you don’t listen to his prophets,BOMB the cities,YES,OUR FATHER says they WILL bomb 30 cities with nukes,and thats the TIP OF THE ICEBURG that they have planned,military driving through neighborhoods at 4 o’clock in the morning,tossing out cyainide canisters of poison gas,KILLING entire areas,spraying poison gas from planes on out laying areas, 120 CANADIAN sniper teams READY to attack on orders,ALL farmers and ranchers…….DO ANY OF YOU LISTEN TO GODS WARNINGS???or you can’t pull your head out of your ass long enough???YOU HAVE 20,000,000 foreign troops here,from… Read more »

Rick Harville

The Party of Peace, strikes again.

Phelps

Meant to say that Raytheon has a major center at Texas Instruments, which is based here in Dallas.

Phelps

This clown doesn’t even know how the weapons he wants to use are made. The electronics come from Raytheon and Texas Instruments. Raytheon, General Dynamics, and tons of others have operations in Atlanta.

The liberal plan is to nuke the places that make your nukes. BRILLIANT!

Paul Bonneau

Actually, we should keep both tools – violent resistance, and nonviolent resistance – in our toolbox. And Mike Vanderboegh is simply wrong with his truism. Even totalitarian governments require support of the people. Nonviolent resistance has been used even against the Nazis, if you look into it.

https://strike-the-root.com/why-split-between-non-violent-and-violent-resistance

Harry

How would you even begin to disarm the public? One forgets that quite a few of our LEO’s and military personnel are indeed armed and voting citizens. A friend of mine once theorized, when the idea of total banning of firearms like in some European nations arose, that it would take units of the military moving door to door collecting arms from citizens. We were both in the military at the time, and the prospect chilled me to the bone. Many of my friends, family, and neighbors are gun owners and supporters of the Constitution. Telling me to confront them,… Read more »

ALberto

Quite frankly it all comes down to will the US military attack its own citizens? I’m a veteran and I know I wouldn’t. The military goes on and on about its all volunteer force. Know why the military is all volunteer? Seems that in Nam draftees would rather shoot their officers rather than risk their lives in the name of corporate profit. Are the PTB planning and counting on Mexican illegals to do the job? As Russia is proving in the middle east the on the ground reality is blood and steel not some trumped up ideo-reality authored by bed… Read more »

JAQUE BAUER

Of the 100 million gun owners, I would hazard a guess that less than 10% would resist say, a nullification of the 2nd Amendment and forced surrender of their arms. That leaves 100,000 gun owners who would refuse to comply. Of those 100,000, perhaps 10% of them would resist with deadly force, or other forms of civil insurrection. Unless these 10,000 hard core resistors and their families can hide out in the hills with an infinite supply of medicine, food, fuel, ammunition and water they will need to obtain these resources from the population centers, where they will be vulnerable… Read more »

F Riehl, Editor in Chief

Jaque You have a math error 10% of 100,000,000 is 10,000,000 (ten million)

Anthony

Dallas and Atlanta just happen to be both close to the 33rd parallel.

As are Baghdad, Tripoli (Libya), Roswell New Mexico.

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Mark H.

I love engaging the “resistance is futile” morons. There are, by conservative estimates, at LEAST 3 or 4 million of us who feel strongly enough to fight the government if need arises. I guarantee our ranks would at least double that after the first couple of victories over tyranny. You will NOT be able to ignore that many armed, determined guerrilla fighters. The left likes to think of us forming up (like for a parade) and marching to our deaths, but we have NO intention of doing it like that. As ugly as it sounds, we will set fires, pick… Read more »

evoval

Well I’m shocked. You mean to tell me the United States Government would not back, arm and supply the rebels fighting to remove their tyrannical dictators like they do everywhere else in the world?
That’s just a hypocritical double standard. WTF!

DDS

You’ve seen the map with the red states and blue states. You’ve maybe even seen the maps with some purple states. But if you look at the right maps, with detail down to the congressional district or voting precinct you see a vast red sea with some blue blobs. Those blue blobs are the cities Littell’s nukes would target? Assuming for a moment that the civil war Littel wrote about is one between an off the rails progressive government and a libertarian OpFor, why in the world would the central government nuke it’s own support base, those blue blobs that… Read more »

SuperG

If you’ve watched the Zeitgeist series, you know the monetary collapse is coming. At that point, when paper money becomes worthless, the citizens will seek change. If they seek it with armed confrontation then they will lose. No sitting government wants to lose its power and will respond in kind, with better tactics and weapons. But if it started out unarmed, the government’s troops, made up of Americans, would find it real hard to murder unarmed civilians seeking change. Get the Army on your side before the uprising, and the government would be dethroned before the conflict even started. But… Read more »

SJ Yokel

Who would be protecting these politicians who’ve just nuked an American city. Ya know, the secret service, the marines, the army, navy, and air force all have wives, sons, daughters, mothers and fathers. Many of whom probably lived in or near the newly formed pile of radioactive rubble. There would be nowhere for any politician to hide, I mean come on! The fatal mistake many of these anti gun- anti freedom so called experts make is, the vast majority of the people who protect us, police, armed forces, fire fighters are extremely pro gun, pro freedom. They would be the… Read more »

Shinmen Takezo

These are just the blatherings of a leftist/communist/retard. But let’s just humor this moron, shall we?! Let’s say that there was secession and armed resistance to a tyrannical government in this country. And let’s say that the leftist/retards in DC decided it would be a “good thing” to teach these rebels a lesson they will never forget–and let’s say they set off a 500 kiloton city buster in Atlanta Georgia…. let’s go with that for a moment. What would happen? First off–that alleged 3% of people taking up arms would swell to 15% in a matter of hours. That would… Read more »

Vinny

The establishment believes that a toe to toe fight with patriot American armed resistance would be futile! Over half of the U.S. Armed Forces would side with civilians no matter what their commands ordered them to do. Also, Patriots would go after the support system for Armed Forces. 99% of the support system for Armed Forces are civilian component and would be gone, no more ammo, food, fuel, weapons. Patriots would go after families of Armed Forces that do follow command directives. Actions by Patriots would force Military into defensive positions and them becoming targets susceptible to constant bombardment and… Read more »

TimeHasCome

I grew up in the late 1960s and in 1968 I was 12 years old . On any given Friday night our city was ablaze with fires and shootings and bombings . All in protest of the Viet Nam War . But it was Lefties pulling the triggers and doing the arsons so it was OK . Not a word was said when there were over 20,000 college bombings with enormous loss of life and property. Now the Liberals have total charge and now they want the guns so history cannot be repeated against them . The ever present school… Read more »

Tim

Another thing this idiot is failing to consider is that “We are the Military” It is our finger on that button. We drive those tanks. We fly those jets. We The people are the military, just because some fool gives an illegal order does not mean anyone will follow it. We took an oath to defend our country and the constitution, not the administration.

Matt Bracken

Brilliant, perhaps your best ever, and that is saying a LOT.

RM Molon Labe

One of the greatest evils are those who take an oath to govern by “delegated powers” but use it to take from others what they keep for themselves. “A Government that does not trust its law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms, is itself, unworthy of trust.” –James Madison, chief wordsmith of the Constitution “Any government that would attempt to disarm its people is despotic; and any people that would submit to it deserve to be slaves.”– Stephen F. Austin, 1835 “The historical reality of the Second Amendments protection of the right to keep and bear arms is not… Read more »

ceefive

During the Revolutionary War, those not in agreement with the Sons of Liberty were known as Tories . History shows us that Bad Things happened to those Tories.

GF

The Brits in 1775 and the Americans in Viet Nam learned that a powerful military is not enough to counteract a determined populace, and conventional warfare gets trumped by urban guerrilla warfare. BTW how many U.S. military will go along with a tyranical government and fight their own people?

Nam Marine

No one will miss the Cities. If they were to do this they would be hunted down like the rabid animals they are !

Roger

If his were true, then how did a bunch of non-military farmers with unregistered guns beat the snot out of the largest & greatest weaponized army in the world? Our Revolutionary War.

David Holmes

The nuclear missile test,sure looked to me, like a show of force to the American people, not Russia or China

nighthawk

Ever notice it is always the south that gets punished. Why not drop a nuke on Chicago or Detroit? Maybe even Los Angeles ? Why are the northern elite still attempting to destroy the southern people and culture?

BTRUTH

I’m a realist optimist, so I’ll hold nothing back. It is our right & duty to oppose all luciferian forces! That being said, ALL nations are under God’s judgement. We can not solve a SPIRITUAL problem, with a POLITICAL solution. The Powers That Be, have at their disposal, scalar weaponry. Which allows for control of weather, mind & matter. They can simply “beam” an emotion, virus or specific ailment etc. into a targeted individual or an entire nation! They can redirect the jet stream to super freeze anywhere in the USAcorp! Not to mention the advanced bio-weapons! That are both… Read more »

David

…….The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights and all that those two precious documents entail are as worthy of a reason to die as any that I can imagine. We can, as a society, debate it all day long, but that is essentially what it comes down to. Historically the gun grab is very messy. I don’t understand what history knows that the uber left can’t understand. If I did not even own a firearm I will be out in the streets doing battle (with a steaming hot “grits cannon”)for the preservation of the 2A. In a heartbeat.

Louis Bongiorno

Littel has some good points, but you guys are looking at it from a logical, law abiding point of view. Littel is right in saying Dallas, Atlanta, et al. Will disappear-FROM THE INSIDE! The welfare army will rise and rape, pillage, and plunder it’s own nests! The non U.S. members of the military, such as the 82nd, will have no problem killing Americans. The unAmerican minorities in law enforcement will jump up on the tables with the minority AUSA’s, and proclaim- hell yeah, we’ll crap in our own nest! Lets follow the orders of soetero’s brown shirts and shoot the… Read more »