Bulletproof Poster More Like Logicproof Poseurs

By David Codrea

David Codrea in his natural habitat.

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- “Since existing gun laws aren't strong enough to protect us, we created something that is,” Gabby and Mark Giffords' Americans for Responsible Solutions claims in a slick new video designed to sway the emotional and the uninformed.

Talk about apt group name initials. And talk about multiple false premises: That stumping for disarmament is either American, responsible or a solution, and that there are “gun laws strong enough to protect us.”

But the ARSheads opened this door. Now let's see them walk us through it. They make claims. Now require them to show their proofs.

In the absence of reason, they instead resort to slickly-produced (but nonetheless stupid) emotion-manipulating propaganda stunts. As usual. And non-sequiturs.

The anti-rifleman…

For instance, if their poster will stop a .44 magnum, why does their first drone talk about “high-powered rifles,” what does he mean by that, and how much mayhem and murder with those by 14-year-olds are we talking about, especially since:

“According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.”

And that's all rifles. Limiting the initial round of bans to what the gun-grabbers call “assault rifles” narrows things down considerably further.

Going all mental…

Thing 2 assures us there are no mental health records. ARS really ought to get their story straight with Bloomberg's The Trace, which says:

“Disqualifying mental health records form the second largest body of records held by NICS. Simply receiving a diagnosis of a severe mental illness like schizophrenia is not enough to put an individual in this category — a judge must legally declare a person mentally unfit to own a gun or involuntarily commit him or her to a mental institution.”

Pesky existing due process laws … which still, by the way, ought to provide the equivalent protections of a jury trial when you're talking about the state denying a fundamental right to a citizen. But to tyrannophiles, civil rights are obstacles blocking their agenda that must be gotten around or gone through.

A lawyer AND he plays one on TV…

Then there's the ignorant lawyer who somehow got his J.D. and passed the bar, and thinks rights are “given”…?

What's an outrage is how many of his peers (and judges) would agree.

“The people that legally can't have a firearm shouldn't have a firearm,” the next “spokesman” maintains.

Think he'll run it by MS-13?

True dat. Then again, anyone who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian, because they really shouldn't have access to anything outside of a closely controlled environment. And what Mr. Clean here doesn't elaborate on is his grand plan for disarming dangerous gangs as opposed to just coming up with the data needed to compile a registration list of people like you and me.

What? He doesn't have one?

A “gun owner” with a big “but”…

“I'll tell ya, I'm a gun owner and I know about guns, and that's a pretty strong statement you're making,” a grinning kapo assuming the role of obligatory “reasonable gun owner” concedes. “If I gotta fill out my paperwork to buy a gun, then everyone else should.”

Well, I don't know, pal — I guess that depends on where you are.  In this case, you're standing in front of the Civic Opera House in Chicago. So what you're telling us is if we impose an end to private sales everywhere and adopt Chicago-style gun purchase requirements we can all look forward to the same results nationwide?

When you don't actually have an argument, just resort to stunts, deception, and manipulation. (Americans for Responsible Soluitions “Bulletproof Poster” screen capture)

About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

In addition to being a field editor/columnist at GUNS Magazine and associate editor for Oath Keepers, he blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

  • 27 thoughts on “Bulletproof Poster More Like Logicproof Poseurs

    1. “I as a retired LE officer must go through an annual qualification test to have expanded CC rights. The costs add up quickly and cause me to have 5 times the costs of the general public to have a CCW permit.”
      Save yourself some money and have diminished CC rights like the rest of us. Sound appealing? I did not think so.
      Let’s look at what the U.S. Constitution states on this issue:
      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
      Hmmm. Nothing on expanded or diminished CC rights or rights varying based on occupation, levels of permission by local government, levels of training, open or concealed carry, caliber, capacity, barrel length, sound suppression, who you know, how much income you have, education level, or many other topics that get bantered about. That should tell you something. Your rights and the rights of many others are infringed. What is the resolution to correct this? A solution exists in 18 U.S. Code § 242 – Deprivation of rights under color of law:

      “Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.”

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

      Let us have the Federal government enforce this, now.

    2. Food for thought….If a person is not deemed to be a danger to themselves or others, then how can a judge (or anyone else) say that they cannot own, possess or carry a gun. Merely having a mental condition should never be a reason to take away one’s constitutional right. The threshold has always been “a danger to themselves or others”. If I were bad in math or susceptible to being defrauded, should that be cause to take away a constitutionally guaranteed right. Show me where that is permissible in the 2nd amendment. For a convicted felon, it is part of the penalties in his judgment. I believe the SCOTUS should be pushed to make a declaration on this and outlaw all laws that in any way infringe on the 2nd amendment rights. I as a retired LE officer must go through an annual qualification test to have expanded CC rights. The costs add up quickly and cause me to have 5 times the costs of the general public to have a CCW permit. Folks don’t pay fees for freedom of speech, the right to remain silent, the right to vote, the right in your pursuit of happiness or any other constitutionally guaranteed rights. I hope Trump and the SCOTUS brings this nonsense to an end.

    3. Someone who lives near these signs needs to go put a rebuttal up on each one.. tape it nail it glue it on so they can’t remove it.

      1. Wayne if you do post the 2A anywhere, take a page from Mike Vanderboegh’s playbook: carry a can of condensed milk in a large ziplock/plastic bag with a sponge or a brush, and wet the paper down with it on whatever window or glass is handy. Mike said once it dried it was almost impossible to remove, or at least took a great amount of effort. If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing right 🙂

    4. What does the freakin’ poster say ? A transcription would have been interesting. Is it made from ballistic resistant materials ?
      Or, is it just a sarcastic comment ?

    5. I have a great idea for the bullet proof poster!!! Use the formula to make a “GUN FREE ZONE” poster and put the posters up all over school zones and anywhere they want to protect the citizens there. You will see how effective those bullet proof signs are stopping the bullets, fired from those criminals with ILLEGALLY obtained guns obtained from ILLEGAL GUN RUNNERS or THEFT. 50% of ALL gun sales were WITHOUT background checks? Where did they get those numbers???

    6. RIIIIiiigghtt…. now, about those 14 and 15 year olds with guns…. yes, exactly WHERE and HOW did they get them? SOMEONE is supplying them. And I have one more bombshell question for that clown: WHERE are the Daddies of those 14 and 15 year old kids harming others with the guns they break the existing laws by having in public? Seems mose of them, once they’ve made their little “donation” to the mamas of those kids then take off. Disappear. And a good part of why is that Mama gets more money if she has another kid, and that gravy train wrecks if there is a MAN in the household.

      Guess what? Subsidise something, you will always get more of it. Subsidise females bringing more children into the world on the condition the male donors responsible for those kids is no longer around……. nice system, there….. NOTTTTT!!!!

      One more beef with this truckload of tripe: the dood who insists on “proper training” as a precondition for owning a gun. Sorry, “precondition” or “requirement” are simply synonyms for “infringement”, and there ARE TO BE NONE OF THOSE. Remember?
      Further, WHO gets to decide what training is “adequate” or “proper”, on what basis, and WHO PAYS FOR IT? Once more, WHERE are the FATHERS? They should be teaching their kids about guns before they can walk. My Dad learned about guns and how to use/not use them before he was in grade school. The kids brought their own guns to school, played “murder the tin can” at recess and lunch, hunted rabbits and rattlers on the way back home (supper, you know….. fresh meat was always welcome, better if its free) and when, at 14, he became the school bus driver (by virtue of living the farthest from the school) the kids STILL brought their guns to school. And guess what??!!?? NOTHING bad ever happened.

    7. So, I have an idea, why dont we/you/us/the gun rights people, instead of only preaching to our own, who already know and understand all of this, counter every single one of these stunts in the exact same manner, in the exact same place, as these A-holes put theirs? Seems to me that there is a lot of preaching to the choir going on on our side. These messages and responses seem to all be directed at the wrong people. What are we doing telling the truth to the people who already know it? That makes no sense.
      Go to the place where this poster is put and place your rebuttal there, not here where its not going to reach the people who we need to sway.
      Good Lord, its not rocket surgery or brain science.

      1. Bill, I am literally chuckling (not laughing, cause it’s not funny ha, ha) about your remarks here, because…I was just thinking the exact same thing! I read these stories on Ammoland & other gun sites, peruse through the comments, see the bitterness felt by the stupidity of the anti’s, read a few troll remarks (Gil) & think…this isn’t accomplishing a damn thing! Every once in a while, you’ll see something that makes you give a hell yeah but mostly, the same smh attitudes about the disbelief that some folks have about gun rights & how they can screw us out of them.
        Your idea, hits the primmer with the pin. I’ve even thought about making (or having made) 8″x11″ stickers with the 2A written out in plain English & sticking them on, beside, in front of, no gun zone signs, just to draw attention to the issue. Probably dumb…but so is “preaching to the choir”. But I do think WE are on to something!

        1. Wayne if you do post the 2A anywhere, take a page from Mike Vanderboegh’s playbook: carry a can of condensed milk in a large ziplock/plastic bag with a sponge or a brush, and wet the paper down with it on whatever window or glass is handy. Mike said once it dried it was almost impossible to remove, or at least took a great amount of effort. If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing right 🙂

          1. RegT, that’s good to know cause you know if they don’t just rip it down, they’ll try to deface it. Thanks for the info!

    8. Murder, rape, robbery, and assault are already illegal, and how is that working out for us? Perhaps it’s the lack of “Murder Free Zone” signs. The idea that someone willing to commit those crimes will follow a law restricting the use or possession of a gun is idiotic. Sadly, it seems that concept is too complicated for the anti-gun crowd.

    9. Funny how they don’t mention that the nutjob who shot Giffords and the others that day had passed a background check.

      1. and he had no idea who Gifford is, nor was she his target. So now WE are bearing the results of his rampage by way of having HER and her tainted money making OUR lives miserable. Because she CAN.

        Silly female…. why dontchya take up a REAL cause?

    10. Great read brother David, truly an art of facts versus liberal dribble. God gave us these inalienable rights, our founding fathers just recognized this fact. The liberals act like they gave us these rights since they just make up so called “facts”. I am so glad that there are intelligent writers such as yourself on the “right” side. God bless you!!!

    11. Wow, the video sure knows how to bend the truth to fit their narrative. What is crock of …. They need to just go back to their safe city and leave us alone.

    12. Enforce the gun laws we have and punish the criminals who commit crimes and you we see a reduction in firearm crimes. These idiots don’t want to prosecute those who commit crimes with gun but they attack law abiding citizens rights

      1. Laws don’t stop crimes. Laws can only be useful when they provide justice and restitution to the victims of crime. Making it difficult to obtain a gun will only affect the law-abiding members of society as the criminals will get their weapons of choice regardless of the laws.

        1. Fred – you hit one of the nails on the head: it is NOT law abiding Citizens that are committing crimes with guns (NOTE WELL – there is no such thing as ‘gun crime’ or ‘gun violence’ – those are acts committed by people, regardless of the object used). The hoplophobes are nothing if not masters at obfuscation, and the sheeple gobble up such disingenuous language, I guess because it ‘feels’ right. Or something.

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