Sentinel Colorado Editor Dave Perry Can’t Understand Why Guns Save Lives ~ VIDEO

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Sentinel Colorado Editor Dave Perry Can't Understand Why Guns Save Lives

Colorado – -( Dave Perry from the Aurora Sentinel and Laura Carno from FASTER Colorado give two sides of the debate surrounding whether teachers and staff should be armed and trained to help stop school shootings.

Aurora (CO) Sentinel Dave Perry wrote an opinion piece about how bad he thinks the policy of armed school staff is. He slammed the Faster school shooting program and was very disrespectful to those who carry to defend their kids in class.

Laura Carno challenged him (below) to a debate. Jon Caldara asked them to debate it on his show. Mr Perry made a fool of himself.

Watch the entire debate and leave your comments below.


  • 32 thoughts on “Sentinel Colorado Editor Dave Perry Can’t Understand Why Guns Save Lives ~ VIDEO

    1. Laura Carno should have mentioned that the AMA is bias and not an authority on the subject. She akso should have mentioned the two recent cases where an RSO stopped an active shooter and haveq him refute that.

    2. Where guns are regulated, like Chicago, crime is high, especially gun crime. Where guns are not regulated, crime, especially gun crime is low. This is because the criminals know they will eventually have to face a citizen with a gun in an area where guns are easily owned and carried. The evidence for this is overwhelming. So why does this logic hold outside schools, but doesn’t apply inside schools according to Dave Perry.
      Dave Perry is mistaken, deeply mistaken, and if he succeeds at keeping guns out of schools, HE will be responsible for getting kids killed.

      1. Crime and causes have been researched by John Lott and others and the mathematics are well known. I will list the factors as I understand, but I’m not quoting Dr. Lott just my gut feeling.
        Crime has to do with the age and mobility of the population. A frontier town or a town with lots of transient population will have more crime than a demographic which has settled and developed strong ties to the location.
        Where arms are not regulated away from the population those settled people will know that their neighbors are armed as well as being settled and law abiding.
        The Gang and drug crime is transient, gangs move to new territory, from SoCal eastward and in those cities where crime has always been a factor, NYC, Chicago, Kansas City. These were the cities were gangsters were a big factor in government since 1880 and through Prohibition and the the drug trade. Detroit was also a crime center because of alcohol traffic from Canada into the USA.
        The urban centers adopted a gun control mode of operation. This may have been genuine or it could have been a knowing lie.
        The NY Sullivan gun law was authored by Tim Sullivan who was a leader of the Irish Five Points gang. The may issue permit system allowed Tim to issue permits to his gang and associates while denying rivals.
        Whether crime control was intended or easier crime against the public is hard to prove. But it became the pattern “for safety” as politicians swallowed the easy solution.
        Arming police is OK because police are the mayor’s private army and under orders. But allowing private citizens and school teachers to be armed is not PC. It doesn’t matter how many object lessons of killings being stopped by the good guy with a gun, politicians just won’t accept the facts.

    3. I’m a teacher and former LEO. I’m trained in ASR. Give ME the tools I need to protect my students, my colleagues, and myself. The decision should be MINE.

    4. This guy is predictable I almost say his response for him ,they all use the same play book ,its getting kinda old maybe we should update it for them . There’s always an excuse for not having the means to protect yourself with these people but I bet they all have security…..uh

    5. This debate makes an assumption that Law Enforcement Officers (LEO’s) are all equally competent and that the training they, and all LEO’s, receive produces an extremely high level of competence. This is a fallacious assumption. The argument that police firearm discharges result in from 10-30% hit ratios is more useful in predicting how armed and trained teachers will be able to react. And incidentally, although I am not comfortable with the general level of firearms proficiency in the LEO community, I do recognize that these ratios are achieved under high stress situations.
      The public in this country needs to stop wishing for a situation (no guns, knives, propane tanks, vehicles) that will never exist and begin dealing with the situation that does exist. As an armed citizen I do not leave my house on a particular day expecting an armed confrontation, and neither would a teacher. But I do leave my house understanding that the possibility does exist, however remote, that such a confrontation could happen. Persons living or working in soft target environments must be prepared to deal with that remote, but real, possibility that they will have to confront evil, and that they should be entitled to choose to be aware and prepared rather than hopeless and helpless. I suspect that the person not in favor of being armed would change his position when offered a weapon to defend himself when faced with that evil person intending to kill him.
      There are lots of issues that need to be addressed before arming teachers, but they do need to be addressed. It’s time for the American citizenry to pull their heads from the sand and look reality in the eye.

    6. Ok,
      Not one person in America should listen to this idiot.

      Planes are not High Schools. Correct. They exponentially more dangerous. A discharge of a firearm on a pressurized plane @ anything over 20,000 Ft could result in the death of everyone on board.

      He wants to trust the science/ Fine.

      When an active shooter is met with an armed response, (RSO or civilian) the avg death rate falls from 10 to 2.

      The CDC completed an extensive and definitive study under Obama. 2,600 time a day in the United States Lawful Firearms in the hands of US citizens stop or prevent crimes. over 2,000,000 times a year.

      A CCW is less likely (by half) to commit a crime than a Police Officer.

    7. There are many teachers who do very well at handling a gun, there are many more that are not capable of even shooting a gun. Why would any teacher not want the means to try and defend themself and their students?
      As far as I am concerned schools need a big fix! A teachers political views should not be taught in public schools,
      but that is another debate.

    8. Both the leftist AMA and appointed police chiefs int.ass.of chiefs of poletzi are against any ownership of guns. The ama gets millions in grants to study how to use medicine /shrinkage to take away our civil rights to avoid poisonous shots for us and our children and to own firearms. Iacp are appointed buttmonkeys parroting the company’s talking points or the mayor removed him. Not a trustworthy group at all. As a former cop, my medical training came from crewing rescue 4 years before changing jobs. I think tactical medical training is a must for anyone. It fits very well in the strategic thinking of fielding armed teachers. Paducah ky, teacher with a gun, pearl Mississippi same.
      Medical training could come in handy in restaurant choking, car accident fire, earthquake, tornado, or God forbid shooting of a child scenario.

      Ama….. let’s just check the amount of victims of nonsocomials and medical misadventures per year, (supposed accidents); amount of deaths due to vehicles, (also supposedly accidents); vs gun deaths and gun death accidents…. well now, I have seen evidence that the first is around 400k per year, but “accepted” rates are no less than 93,000, ninety three thousand, 93k…. these are 93k worth of people, otherwise healthy, in the us that go into a hospital and die as a result of getting a fatal condition from it. Auto accidents kill on average 42 thousand each year in the us. Rumors say this has gone down since teddy Kennedy is now getting anal from satan.

      How about guns? Gun accidents? Hmmmmm….. according to the AMA, you will end up dead from living. According to the buttmonkey parrots, freedom, civil rights, and the right to defend yourself is both wrong and bad, that you should be subservient to your overlords and let them protect you…… funny… my chief was very much in favor of every owning guns, as long as mentally ok and not a bad guy, and my very liberal doctor dont agree on much politically, but we love guns, and believe adamantly in freedom.

    9. There is ONE big problem here. Better than 90% of the teachers ,in the land, vote DEMOCRAT (anti gun in school) How can you protect our kids when the teachers ( not all of them ) will not help?

    10. This Dave Perry fellow seems like a good little slave, willing to take orders about how he should live his life, and cannot understand why others aren’t willing to do the same.

      These types are a plague to our once extremely free republic.

    11. I wish the host of these programs would ask the gun control advocates one question, and that would be “If strict gun laws were passed, How many criminals do they think would turn in their firearms???? That answer if they are truthful would be ZERO.

    12. I commented on this editorial at the Sentinel:
      Let’s do the impossible – change society into the kinder, gentler, benign population we just know they oughta be! Oh, and no guns! – instead of facing reality: there are people among us that want to do harm to the rest of us, and some of them will go into our schools and kill our children if we don’t start protecting them. Yep, that’s the ticket! Wishful thinking instead of taking action!
      We lost our “innocence” when it comes to school violence a long time ago, but we’ve stubbornly refused to acknowledge what needs to be done and as a result, we’ve had shooting after shooting in schools across the country. The left focuses on the armed teacher controversy, but they won’t admit that’s only part of the story. There are plenty of other steps that can be taken that don’t involve guns, and the left stands in the way of those, too. It’s a damn shame that small-town editors seek to make a joke of earnest efforts to implement proven methods of protecting “valuables” – in this case, our children – instead of supporting programs that will save lives.

    13. I wouldn’t worry about what these county Sentinel rags have to say about the 2nd Amendment. Their readers are mostly busy-bodies who love to read how the papers (I still remember the Jefferson County Sentinel) inflame situations even more by combining reporting with acerbic editorializing in the articles they write. For some reason, Leftists LOVE this kind of reporting. I also remember another writer in another place I lived, Carl Hiaasen, who left you no doubt he had a profound hatred for fellow Miamians, especially Cuban-Americans. Ever since a protest at Fort Chafee, AR spoiled Bill Clinton’s chances at an election, the Clintons & their followers have had a virulent hatred for Cuban-Americans, most of whom vote Conservative. They are angry, anal-retentive control freaks that love politicians & a government that controls every single aspect of one’s life, provided it is their view of how one’s life should be. In this case, following the keep them poor & disarmed philosophy

    14. Perry is an insult to my intelligence. I taught school for 20 years and have a Masters degree. I’m also a good shot and have no trouble knowing where the Pointy end of the gun is. Many of my teaching coharts we’re ex military and wouldn’t hesitate to defend themselves and their students. But we weren’t allowed to have a firearm. If I were teaching today I would be armed just keep keep my mouth shut. Those who are willing to be trained should absolutely be allowed to be armed. If even one person had been armed in these last shooting incidents we would have fewer deaths and the government wold not have the expense of prosecuting the perp.

    15. We always cherish the AWOWA SENTINEL in these parts. It is so full of BS that it works well shredded as worm compost and the worms grow at a phenomenal rate. Dave appears to be of a worm-like stature in the flesh via the picture. Not too much shape shifting required!!!!!

    16. Dave Perry is stuck at the Aurora Sentinel due to the Peter Principle. He also wrote an editorial telling everyone to get off the highways on the weekends so HE could go skiing. Clueless and self centered in every way, shape and form describes him. I refuse to read his rag even though I have lived in Aurora for decades.

    17. Dave Perry is a deceitful snake. The 300 guns gone missing was a great fairy tail but its the facts about the claim of missing guns that should reveal that this so-called journalist is deliberately trying to craft a narrative that gun owners are not responsible enough to possess guns. The real facts about the 300 guns, well first this incident goes way back to 2003 & 2004 when the FFDO program was just put into place and government rules required that airline pilots off duty must store their firearms in locked containers in their luggage. And it was found that baggage handlers “lost” the guns. Not the actual airline pilots but baggage handlers. So a combination of Dave the Snake Perry leaving out the fact that it was government regulation that required the pilots to put their guns in luggage and then the baggage handlers losing the guns that caused this insane statistic. Shame on you Dave have you no moral compass? This is why you never take your news from a trash bucket mainstream media dump like the Denver Sentinal. :,8599,592772,00.html

      Carry on Laura Carno with your rational thought and keep beating down the liberal liars from mainstream media.


      1. BTW, did the boat sink? A Ferry is a boat, a fairy tale is a fiction.
        Airline pilots were sworn in as federal law officers BUT were not allowed to carry their gun. They were not allowed to even load their gun and have it in the cockpit while on the ground.
        The FAA rules required pilots to stow their gun during the descent for landing. A high stress time in the cockpit which resulted in several airliners with bullet holes going out near the pilots seats.
        AS far as I know, pilots did carry their gun in their flight bag and could carry it passed the TSA checkpoint. BUT airline pilots routinely “dead head” as passengers when travel is required to get to a departure point where that pilot will actual fly. The rules then required that their flight bag be checked as luggage and not stowed in the cockpit or as carry-on in the cabin.

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