‘Second Amendment Guy’ Ben Stein Should Learn Before Presuming to Teach

There will be a lot more tragedy and a lot fewer survivors if “Second Amendment Guy” Ben Stein’s proposed infringements on the right to keep and bear arms are attempted. (Chad J. McNeeley, U.S. Navy/Public Domain)

U.S.A. –(Ammoland.com)- “Stalin Would Approve,” Ben Stein writes in his regular “Diary” feature at The American Spectator. “The only thing missing so far is the live ammo.”

It’s a perceptive point about the cold civil war manifesting itself in the “progressive” Brett Kavanaugh witch trial.

Stein, for those unfamiliar with his work, is an actor (as well as a writer, lawyer and former speechwriter for Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford) who enjoys Republican approval as a “conservative” commentator. He’s arguably best known for his role in 1986’s “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off,” playing the Economics Teacher who delivered the now-iconic droning and repetitious lines “Anyone, anyone…?” and “Bueller, Bueller…?

It’s instructive that Stein gets that what is playing out on the Democrat side of the aisle is thinly-disguised Stalinism, and that totalitarianism is the goal with genocidal tyranny being the result. It’s not hyperbole if Stein’s observations are allowed to stand:

There is no trial on facts or law any longer. As others have pointed out, we now have “guilt by accusation.”…To stop Donald Trump, the Democrats have tossed out the whole basis of Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence — innocent until proven guilty…Is there no end to it? Stalin would approve. So would Goebbels…

“If this Democrat trick works, there simply is no meaningful legal protection in this country any longer,” Stein quite accurately declares. “This is a defining moment for the Constitution…Republicans…WAKE UP!”

Seeing that Stein appears to grasp the gravity of that, another “Diary” entry contradicts its own subhead:

“The Time for Civilians to Own AR-15s Is Over,” Stein wrote in February. “Let’s have at least a modicum of common sense.”

He’s adopted the goals and even the terminology of the gun-grabbers.

“Now, I’m a Second Amendment guy,” Stein argues, making essentially the same argument Barack Obama did. “I believe Americans who are sane and not criminals and pass a genuine background test should be allowed to own weapons for home protection and for target shooting and for self-defense.”

Prior restraints for “shall not be infringed”? “Allowed”? Perhaps Stein could point to the delegated power in the Constitution he says he recognizes “defining moments” for.

Next, he does what every gun-grabber who professes belief in the Second Amendment always does. He shows everybody his big “but”:

“But for the life of me, I cannot see why any American civilians need an AR-15 or any other military-style semi-automatic rifle.”

An entry over at Urban Dictionary comes to mind (Warning: explicit language/NSFW).

Readers weren’t buying it and took Stein to the woodshed in comments.  Despite instructional feedback, like all with closed minds who presume to teach but don’t even belong in the class without passing some prerequisites, he doubled down on the cognitive dissonance.

“It’s horrifying and yet another example of why no civilian needs an AR-15 or a facsimile. It’s just sickening,” Stein declared in a few months later after a known nutjob who’d had his guns taken away twice before shot up a “gun-free” Waffle House. “I’m a Second Amendment guy, but no one needs a gun that just begs the owner to start shooting people.”

Only delusional lunatics who can’t be trusted without a custodian believe their guns are begging them to do anything. This “conservative thought leader” who would presume to instruct us on the Constitution has embraced the primitive “legal” concept of the deodand, where an inanimate object could be blamed for a death and then seized by the government.

Stalin would approve. And the further danger is Stein, by being presented as a “conservative,” is given a platform to influence Republican thought. We see the dangerous infringements that can arise from that type of “thinking.”

Who knows what the Second Amendment says and why the Founders considered it so fundamental to freedom?

Anyone? Anyone…? Stein? Stein? Stein…?

About David Codrea:David Codrea

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

In addition to being a field editor/columnist at GUNS Magazine and associate editor for Oath Keepers, he blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

  • 48 thoughts on “‘Second Amendment Guy’ Ben Stein Should Learn Before Presuming to Teach

    1. I sort of agree with him. If civilians are to remove a tyrant, they don’t need ARs. They need sniper rifles. The AR, you use that to take out his bodyguards.

      1. Interesting. I’m sure that people are aware that the AR- platform is the most versatile firearm platform that has ever been produced. AR pattern firearms can be found in as small a caliber as a .177 BB or Air Soft guns, .17 and .22 rimfire, pistol calibers such s 9mm and .45 acp, with short and long barrels and produced as pistols, small bore rifle for the military and for varmint control, medium bore that is regularly used for medium game such as deer and sheep, large bore rifle .30 caliber and larger for larger game and long range target shooting, to tremendously large calibers such as .50 Beowolf and .50 BMG for crazy long distance shooting.

        There are semi auto versions, versions with automatic and burst operations, there are bolt action versions, and thanks to rules like the NY SAFE Act, there are rifles that lock the bolt back after every press of the trigger making it in all effectiveness a single shot firearm with a detachable magazine.

        The issue for me is all about the people who want to do harm. That is where the concern should lie, not with the tool itself.

    2. Did Rosa Parks “need” the seat at the front of the bus? An armed citizenry will never be unwillingly forced into railroad boxcars at gunpoint.

      1. These LEO’s and Judges who enforce the illegal, Unconstitutional laws, contrary to the SUPREMACY CLAUSE OF THE US CONSTITUTION, don’t “need” their over inflated salaries and pensions either. And the dirtbag legislators who write these unconstitutional laws, although they should know better, don’t “need” their lives, either. They should go hang tgemselves just for being the dirtbag human excrement they are. How dare they expect us to go around this dangerous world with no protection, all the while they make exceptions for themselves and their friends.

    3. Well well Mr Stein. Only what you approve of? Hummm???
      You lost me sir. You’re just a FUDD.

    4. “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.” – Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Program (1875)
      Frankly, I do not need Stein or anybody else (especially someone in government) to question what I or anybody else needs.

    5. The last I knew Stein was a financial wizard that peddled his market ideas on TV. He is a jack of all trades and master of none.

    6. We must cut Ben some slack. He grew up apparently, in an atmosphere/culture where guns were instruments used only
      by others. Basically, he is a decent, traditional conservative (not a RINO), who will come around when he is shown the
      facts of gun ownership in America. Will someone out there invite Ben to a gun club meeting and maybe, take him to
      a range?

      1. Cut him slack? Um, No. He professes to be a conservative and is speaking about the Constitution, yet adds government control/infringement over what type of weapons civilians should have access to. That alone is talking out of both sides of his mouth (a decidedly liberal activity). The Constitution doesn’t change from region to region or time to time, so there goes the handicap for the atmosphere/culture he grew up in. He is acting more like the obama’s and biden’s of the world, who claim allegiance long enough to gain power only to flip and actively work against that which they claimed to support. Can you spell McCain? And like all gun grabbers and anti-2nd Amendment folks, this infringement for firearm choice (the first inch) will undoubtedly grow to ammo selection, number of guns one can own and, yes, government confiscation from those citizens who the government decides should not own any type of weaponry, specific firearms to be determined later (the mile).

      2. Stein is a member of a group, he owes allegience to that group alone. Sure he’s a “2nd Amendment guy”; for them, not for you or me. Don’t be fooled, he is lying and isn’t “coming around”.

      3. @RN, I am not cutting slack for anyone that seeks to cut short my Constitutional Civil Rights, I don’t care how tragically that you portray his up bringing.

    7. “I believe Americans who are sane and not criminals and pass a genuine background test should be allowed to own weapons for home protection and for target shooting and for self-defense.”

      I have read our entire Constitution from 1st word to last word many times over the last 50 (+) years. To date I have not discovered anything that remotely approaches Mr.Stein’s statement. He is another person who, being much smarter than the rest of us, feels it necessary to adjust the wording of OUR Constitution to conform to his own personal opinions. Normally those people do not stop with the 2nd amendment in their attempts to renovate OUR Constitution. It’s not broken,Mr. Stein, leave it the hell alone.

    8. The Second Amendment doesn’t exist for “home protection and for target shooting and for self-defense”. It exists to deter tyrannical government.

    9. Stein is a brilliant apologist, his film Expelled was an incredible piece of research and exposé on the atheistic evolutionists who had been very successful at destroying the careers and lives of anyone who even considered that any intelligent being could possibly have designed and made what we see. He, in the end, exposes their rabid adherence to non-logic and trashing anything running counter to their prepositional assumptions.

      If memory serves aright, he grew up a Jewish boy in New York… and remember, NYC, since the days of Mayor Sullivan, was selectively disarmed by law. Thus kids growing up never were around guns, and they were generally illegal, except for the coppers and their select pals. So guns were always bad, only bad guys and those fighting them could have them. I doubt he ever had any direct contact with them.

      I’m pretty certain this cultural world is what is at the root of his current hatred of the hardware, and his rabid disapproval of them. He needs to research the history of his people in Europe through the late 19th and early 20th Century, then imagine how different that might have been had THOSE people,many likely his own ancestors, had access to the same weapons the military and governments of those times/places had. Perhaps a long afternoon reading through some of the material at the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Organisation have gathered for just such as he.
      Personally, I have never favoured the modern sporting rifle. I’ve fired them a few times, handled them even more often on the range as RSO, but have little interest in owning one except perhaps precisely BECAUSE they are so “incorrect” in the eyes of so many corrupt power-mongers.
      On the other hand, I DO own a number of other tools which I find quite handy AND capable, to the point of being able to hit a ten inch bright blue round item at ranges up to about a thousand yards…… and am content with those. Oh, and some very capable and handy handguns for shorter ranges. So WHY do I need an AR style rifle? He is right. I do not NEED one. But when opportunity presents I believe I shall obtain at least one such tool, and probably a number of different types/styles, just to thumb my nose at they who say since I do not NEED one, I oughtn’t HAVE one. Never can tell when one might prove itself handy in some situation I do not presently forsee.

      I’ve owned a thirty inch long pipe wrench for quite some time now, and finally had a situation not long ago where that was THE PROPER tool for the task that had presented. I don’t care if that monster sits about in the toolroom for yet another ten years and I never touch it. It has earned its keep. Thus I shall keep it. I also had a tiny four inch pope wrench some years ago, it is hiding somewhere, and I had such strong need of it that, when I could not find it, I went and bought another.

      Tools…. those who do not USE them simply do not understand them. Stein’s paradigm needs expanded. Before his enlightenment is for naught, denied by those who would control him.

      1. Ben Stein, how much money did he get from Michael Bloomberg?
        I’ve had guns for 64 of my 70 years and not one of them has begged me to shoot anyone!
        he is running with the wrong crowd Democrats apparently.
        Bloomberg is on Oct 5 going to launch a massive assault against our Rights with $100,00,000.00 pledged for the effort.
        In June Bloomberg, in Atlanta bragged we have…” the Second Amendment is on the ropes..”
        The President announced he is going to make Bump Stocks illegal, shortly. Does that include rubber bands too?
        He lost a lot of support with that!

    10. So, what other rifles do we not need? SKS? AK-47? Ruger 10-.22? Mini-14? Where does it stop? when do we not “need” “Sniper” rifles, also known as any rifle with a scope? Anyone who thinks this is about need NEEDS to co look at the constitution again. It says Bill of RIGHTS, not Bill of NEEDS. We will keep beating them over the head with this until one of us is dead. Unless and until I do something with my guns to dprive someone else of THEIR rights, my guns, my weapons, my ARMS, are MY BUSINESS. And no one else’s!

    11. It just goes to show how effective the MSM has been in demonizing the most popular gun in the country. The weak minded fools have grabbed on to the terminology and made it a lexicon of the english language. If you were to believe them, the AR-15 platform is the cause of all homicides in the world, when in fact it is a statistical blip.

    12. Re; “no civilian needs an AR-15”

      We don’t have a bill of “needs”, we have a Bill of Rights and the purpose of the Second Amendment is clearly stated in the preamble to the Bill of Rights where it says “The convention of a number of states having at the time of their adopting of the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse, of its powers that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added”. Note that when the Second Amendment was written, every weapon was a weapon of war, there were no restrictions on the private ownership of weapons and the militia was equally matched with the Continental Army. After all, if they weren’t equally matched, it would be pretty hard to deter or prevent a “misconstruction or abuse, of the government’s powers” – so in reality, the citizen militia of today should have the same firearms as the current US military. Unfortunately we are no longer equally matched because we have let our gun rights be eroded by buying into this notion if we just compromise to accommodate the people who – for whatever reason – don’t like guns they will quit trying to take away our gun rights. History has shown that no matter how much we compromise, it’s never enough so we need to stop compromising..

    13. Yeah, used to like Ben Stein until I heard him spout his idiotic views about AR`s during a TV interview several months back.
      Have concluded that he is just another elitist Richard Cranium.

    14. One of the best ways to get your idea to fruition is being that ‘wolf in sheeps clothing’. Infiltrate.
      Stein could very well be that ‘5th column’.

    15. I’ve read a few of Stein’s columns, and he’s overly occupied with his lavish lifestyle. I don’t find him all that conservative.

    16. Stein has an impressive resume on paper. He has not one skill that would aid him in 95 percent of this country. Stein knows little of the lives of rural Americans, thus he can not understand why one would need a modern sporting rifle. Stein then falls into the trap of substituting his judgement for our judgement.
      Stein sees Stalinism clearly when it applies to him. Stein sees not, when he applies his own Stalinism to others.

      1. WB, as is normally the case, I see pretty much eye to eye with you & this is no different….except for the “modern sporting rifle” description.
        IMHO, an AR or AK are NOT modern sporting rifles. Modern, yes…but to designate them as “sporting rifles” is a misnomer. They are a tool with many designations, such as, hunting, target, critter dispatching, self defense & yes in obscure cases, crime. There is nothing that boxes them in with the exception of them being a firearm. It’s totally the individual using them that gives them any kind of descriptive nomenclature. To a hunter, they are a hunting rifle. To a three gun competitor, they are a sporting rifle, to a homeowner that just has one handy, they’re more than likely a defensive device.
        I realize I’m spouting semantics here but duty specific descriptions are one of the things the left uses to make these “scary looking war machines” into something other than they are & I don’t want anyone to misunderstand their use. They are what we use them FOR, not what they represent. Not wanting to offend you in any way, just pointing out something that caught my eye. Respect brother!!!!

        On a different note, the statement, “I’m a second amendment guy but….” has to be the most idiotic statement I have ever heard from anyone’s mouth that truly (or thinks they do) believes in our Constitutional rights. The only THING begging for people to shoot others, are the mouths of the ones trying to take our rights away…& I’m not making threats (for any BIG BROTHER keeping tabs) but giving the meaning behind…MOLAN LABE. In other words, don’t start nothing, there won’t be nothing.

        1. The term MSR is preferable to AR which uninformed non gun owners think stands for ‘assault rifle’. All of the uses you describe other than self defense and crime should fall under the shooting sports category so it would be accurate to describe the platform as such. And how should we describe them, shootin’ tool?
          That’ll never fly. Don’t give the gun grabbers an inch, use the least offensive name you can come up with.

      2. Hello Wild Bill, You are on target, especially when it comes to individual perspectives of rights vs. need. Those of us who live in a rural/country setting, need different kinds of firearms for particular uses. My conversation with those I”m not familiar with only involves the 2nd Amendment and that people should have the kind of firearm they choose.

        1. @Don Bailey, good to hear from you, and thank you very much.
          @joefoam, Yep, I just use the term modern sporting rifle to keep it palatable for the fence sitters.
          @Wayne Clark, Not to worry. Modern sporting rifle is just code for those who know, and euphemism for those that don’t

      3. Perhaps if he had let someone win enough of his money, he would have had to go out and actually work for a living and might have learned enough of real life lessons that he would NOT be a ‘butter’. He certainly has no business lecturing us 95% types about what we do or do not “need”.

      4. @WB… What mystifies me is what do the Hollywood types see as their future? If the shtf what is left for them except becoming targets for those who have lost everything? Sort of like that show (which I don’t watch) where they are always trying to keep the undead outside the fence.

        1. @OV, Hey, long time no hear from! That mystifies me also. Every once and a while, some dangerous lunatic, recent X- friend and part time sex partner, unbalanced stalker, or similar colleague invades their artificially safe little world, and then they scream, and run around in circles, but never seem to learn from it. This also applies to actresses.

            1. @WB…But more correct than most realize . Sorry been out and gone for several days. had to go back thru last couple days of Ammoland .

      1. Feinstein, Bloomberg, Wineberg, Lautenberg, Nadler, Soros, etc, etc, etc.,. seems like they gots an agenda, like any fifth column would. And I hate to say it because I voted for him, but look who Trump is surrounded by, hidden in the shadows and laying low. Probably blackmailing him with some secret dirt, no doubt. Well, I’ll be, it’s the Bolsheviks !!! With their dreams of the perfect Kalergi type society that they can rule over. Just Us for all !!!

        1. @Boys & Girls… It is time we stop letting them define terms again . The Dem party is not the same party it was in the days of JFK . They are Socialist concerned only with destroying this country.
          We should start calling a shovel a shovel and label them as socialist .

    17. Have I Been Asleep for 100 Yrs.???
      Since When Do Guns Speak ???
      Is Something New ??? (Voice Active Firearms )
      Did I Miss The Newest Production Models ???
      STIEN Needs a Muzzel ( for his mouth)

      1. @Mark DV, My shooting platform (rifle and scope) talks to me occasionally. They join in the accusation, “We did our part, so what happened”. Damn, I hate it when they are right!

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