‘Restrictive’ New Zealand Gun Laws Useless at Stopping Mosque Massacres

New Zealand Police Commissioner Mike Bush holds a press conference on the Christchurch Mosque shootings. (New Zealand Police video screen capture)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “LIVESTREAM TERROR New Zealand mosque shootings – White supremacist gunman videos live murder of 49 at two Christchurch mosques,” The Sun headline declares. “Shocking GoPro footage – too graphic to publish – shows a shooter executing Muslim worshippers at point blank range with automatic weapons.”

“New Zealand mosques' attack suspect praised Trump in manifesto,” Al-Jazeera followed up. “A suspected gunman behind the Christchurch attacks has dubbed the US president as ‘a symbol of renewed white identity'.”

The press has got all the usual suspects rounded up and ready to blame, right down to indicting Trump, white males, and guns while championing Islamic migrants. In the frenzied and hate-fueled mob-inciting, the politicization, and the media scramble to get scoops before all the facts are in, it would be helpful to introduce some known information into the mix.

“New Zealand gun laws face scrutiny after Christchurch attack,” The Guardian claims. “Unlike UK and Australia there is no ban on semi-automatic military-style weapons.” Disregarding for a moment that The Sun subhead claimed the weapons were “automatic,” reflecting the admitted intent of the Violence Policy Center to sow public confusion, the go-to authority consulted here is Philip Alpers, founding director of GunPolicy.org.

It’s instructive to consult what that organization has to say about New Zealand gun law and to note what the “mainstream” media is deliberately not telling us. Because per Alpers’ website, “The regulation of guns in New Zealand is categorised as restrictive … In New Zealand, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law.”

It’s true, as is being claimed, that there is no ban, per se, on semi-autos.  Instead:

“In New Zealand, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is restricted to police-approved licensed gun owners with a Military-Style Semi Automatic (MSSA) licence endorsement. Each MSSA must be registered to its owner and securely stored when not in use.”

Of relevance:

“In New Zealand, private possession of fully automatic weapons is restricted to police-approved licensed gun owners with a ‘collector' licence endorsement. Each automatic or restricted weapon must be registered to its owner, and disabled when not in use.

“In New Zealand, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is restricted to police-approved licensed gun owners with a ‘pistol’ licence endorsement. Each handgun must be registered to its owner and securely stored.”

Special license endorsement firearms require a “genuine reason” for possession, “including sports shooting, hunting, and collection. Owning a firearm for self-defence is specifically excluded, and prohibited.”

New Zealand requires criminal and mental health checks with third-party character references. It has licensing and registration “of individual civilians licensed to acquire, possess, sell or transfer a firearm or ammunition.” It has domestic violence prohibitions.  Compare that to the “Universal Background Check” and “Red Flag/ERPO” edicts demanded for the U.S. as “common sense.” Private sales require a license, and “The buyer of a firearm in a private sale in New Zealand is obliged to pass official background checks before taking possession.”

Yet still, it is not enough, which tracks with experience here. What’s left is a total ban, something “common sense gun safety law” proponents dismiss as NRA propaganda, but which the less restrained in the citizen disarmament movement have demanded on too many occasions to ignore.

Follow updates to this unfolding story from the New Zealand Commissioner of Police.

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David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

  • 47 thoughts on “‘Restrictive’ New Zealand Gun Laws Useless at Stopping Mosque Massacres

    1. When the islamists murder catholics in their churches in Africa nobody gives a shit, when one white man does the same in return they call him a murderer and a major uproar arises all over the World…what’s fucking wrong with you people???

      1. Honestly, I have no clue. Perhaps on their Scale of Oppression, they whites as the most oppressive, and Muslims as the oppressed, so they have to screech. They have divided everyone into classes with a sliding scale of justice.

    2. This incident couldn’t have been scripted any better by the Deep State, to distract from the important stuff going on in DC and reinforce the Left-wing MSM narrative. You know the Deep State is behind this because it follows their playbook to a T:
      1) False flag incident to distract the masses and change the news cycle – race and/or religion motivated https://qmap.pub/themes/read/23
      2) Pin blame on Trump, no matter how tenuous and ludicrous the claim is
      3) Advance the gun control agenda: disarm all Americans (even when a shooting happens in a FOREIGN country) https://qmap.pub/themes/read/32
      4) Coordinate talking points with the MSM through SecureDrop in time for the 4am news cycle https://qmap.pub/themes/read/73

    3. The muzzies have infiltrated the whole world and every place they go trouble comes up. They are a waring bunch bent on converting everyone to Islam or killing those who don’t. The infiltration of our congress is just wrong because they do not know or want to know our Constitution or semulate into our society. They are hell bent on changing our society. Yes, I am politically incorrect, but it matters to our United States of America if we adopt these off the wall foreign ideas or stick to our principles and rule of law. Australia, even if I do not agree with many of their laws, use to require immigrants to assemble, learn the language and customs or feel free to leave. What happened to that concept here?

    4. I’ve shot automatic weapons before & I saw the video……I’m pretty sure about 110% they were not full auto!!

    5. A spiritual tapestry indeed!

      A weaving of: intolerance, hate, white supremacist, racist, anti-1A, or 2A.. ?,
      What’s in a name? ..LOOK at the names that they wrote on their weapons!, the names of every person shot, the names of the shooters, the names of reporters, and LE, etc.. etc…
      All-in for: the cause of anarchy, chaos, to steal/kill/destroy, take the rights of other people… ISIS, Jihad..?, anti-freedom/liberty… Using Trump as a chump/mentor target too..

      If you want to get to the MO, get to the root of the problem.
      It’s a spiritual problem. The Gov./LE keep looking at the surface manifestations.
      Satan is behind it.. These people are blinded, slaves/pawns/puppets.. they don’t know what they’re doing!
      The true targets of this kind of violence are the Believers/Freedom/Liberty/Constitutionalists’..

      The only way we can stop this is, by asking the Lord to make our enemies to be at peace with us. “If our ways” are “displeasing to the Lord”, “He may not hear” us until “we” “repent of our sin”…
      Are “we” dissatisfied with our leadership? Are you praying for them? ..Instead of cursing/complaining against them….

      …Liberty, or Death!

    6. Any bets on how many new gun control laws will be introduced in the near future? You can bet there will be plenty and they will be as ineffectual as the ones already on the books. People will never learn or admit it’s the person not the weapon.

      1. Oh, “people” (at least, sane ones) do understand and freely state that it is indeed the “person,” not the “weapon” that counts!

        It is the idiotic liberals and the Democrat leadership – whose qualifications as “people” are seriously debatable – who never learn that, when it comes to firearms, the one and ONLY (single, solitary) important element is who’s wielding that firearm and why.

        With abject apologies to Gamaliel, “All else is commentary.”

    7. I am a self-professed “American Nationalist.” I believe in American sovereignty and culture, and am quite happy with how the Trump Administration is doing. Especially when it comes to erasing the legacy of the occupant for the previous 8 years. America’s interests should be first on EVERY American’s agenda, they certainly are on mine. For illegals: Build the goddamn Wall, and Deport Them All. You want to come here; wait your turn, follow the laws and procedures, LEARN ENGLISH, and become an American. Certainly, don’t forget your cultural heritage, but become an English speaking American, not a foreign national living in an enclave of others like you. Never forget or apologize for the past, it’s what helps to make us greater. I refuse to be ashamed of being an armed, white, male and of European descent. No ethnicity is better or worse than another.

      Why do I say all this? Because I am sick and tired of having the Nationalist mentality be equated with racism. The media whores in this country spew this garbage, and the uneducated masses gobble it up. The more they cry “RACISM”, they less effect the label actually has. But it is working for them, for now.

      1. you really don’t know much about American history or the immigration it is founded on. stay over at stormfront, dickhead.

        1. Apparently, just like all LIBTARDS, the word “ILLEGAL” in front of immigration escapes your eyes, or you don’t understand the definition. My, my….what other crimes must you be regularly committing, all the while believing it to be perfectly legal to perpetrate?
          My entire existence in this country is owed to immigration….LEGAL immigration. All my great-grandparents were immigrants, that assimilated into proud, English speaking Americans. Three sets came from Quebec, and one from Auschwitz, Poland.

          Now who’s the “dickhead”?

        2. Actually, he does. Every immigrant who arrived on thses shores by sea assimilated. Even the most nationalistic of these cultures, te Chinese assimilate. They take western names. Granted they live in their enclaves and some don’t bother to learn English but a majority do. It is those that come by land and the Muslims that refuse to assimilate. They will accept all the benefits but do nothing to add to our culture but they will readily tear it apart.

          I am an immigrant. Outside my house i am an American. I am not ( insert nationality here )- American. When I took that oath, I became AMERICAN. But in my home, i keep the culture of my ancestors alive. I cannot say that for these illegals.

      2. Yeah, look at many countries in Europe today. Totally over run by foreigners and everyone was afraid to say anything for fear of being labeled a “rascist”. A few years ago on New Years Eve, it was known as the “Night of a Thousand Rapes”. The cops were too scared to arrest the perps because they would be labeled “Rascists”. I wonder if the NZ shooters knew any of the dead ones, personally ? Exactly what was their reason and motivation for murdering all those Muslims ? Nobody does such a thing without a reason, usually. Were the shooters Israeli Mossad operatives, as some think ? I guess we will have to wait for the whole story, as things get sorted out. But don’t expect the truth from CNN. In the meantime, here in the states, and according to a Feb. 27 Fox News article, MS-13 is busy trying to find out the home addresses of any and all NY cops. It seems they are planning on attacking them and their families at home. And I don’t think they are interested in following the restrictive gun laws in NY, NJ, Conn., RI, or anywhere else for that matter. And if left unchecked, this will spread to the cops in the neighboring states, and then to the citizens. Meanwhile, armies of thousands of fighting age men are amassing at the border, ready and willing to invade, and the domestic enemies that our founders warned us about, are busy writing laws all over the country that are aimed at disarming “Mr. and Mrs. America turn them all in”. What we need is 3am military tribunals to cut the head off of the snake. The rest of the maroons will soon shut up after that.

    8. David Codrea’s articles are always well formulated, informative and factual. What a contrast with Harold Hutchinson’s drivel.

    9. Let them go full blown gun ban, look at France, their laws did not stop terrorists with rifles or box trucks.

      Laws are like a lock, they work for honest people.

    10. Not being politically correct I’ll go ahead and state what most of us are thinking, “It’s about time”. Those in the politically correct media, both liberal and conservative, cry outrage at the act, and it is truly terrible, but as one of the New Zealand Parliament members stated, “They brought it upon themselves”. Hundreds of thousands of Christians, Jews, Buddhists and other innocent people have died at the hands of Muslims over the past few decades (and even more over the centuries), but for some unknown (presumably politically correct) reason, the tables have never been turned in recent times at home, where they strike. To the contrary, even after being attacked, governments and liberals protect, excuse and promote Islam over their own religions and people and even make excuses for their terrorism, and in Obama’s case refused to even call it terrorism. The only way to deal with these people is not to placate them, that’s what they want. To quote a line from Sean Connery, “He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue!” “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Groups that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms.” – Robert Heinlein. With the acceptance and support of the Feminist agenda in America, we have become a more feminine nation (the pussification of America) and shy away from violence even when it is needed.

      1. Well stated JPM. If only more people looked at history, Winston Churchill had the Muslims pegged 100 years ago. He forsaw what was happening in Germany with the Nazis, but no one listened to him about that until it was too late. It’s now time to pay attention !

      2. So if we apply that to the Progressive Ilk in this country, is it still OK? What about that one scummy, disillusioned family member that we hope to sway someday?

        All of your post has truth sewn into it, but sometimes there’s the “Truth” and sometimes there’s “The TRUTH.” Tough row to hoe.

    11. This all boils down to exactly what the Demo-Rats and Rhino’s want total registration which will make it easier to led to total confiscation, of all guns and ammo and destroying the Second Amendment along without a doubt the total Constitution, people it is well past the point of being blind to what these mush heads want!!!!!!!! They want to enslave all to bow to their demands, why do you think the big push to getting voting rights back to convicted felons, illegals, they can’t get this done if we the people are armed and have freedom of speech, they can’t silence as long as we are armed and can speak freely, this is why they can say what they say, but they only want it their way and we would be removed totally removed from any conversation or protecting ourselves, from their slavery ideas!!!! The biggest draw back is that they took all of them alive, afraid to put animals like them down, this is a major problem with our society, we have to keep them alive to try to find out why they do this, but never even get close to any reason, would be ended with a well placed bullet and prove to to the criminals that it is not going to be peaches and cream, it would be a finally that will end abruptly as it started!!!!!!!

    12. Another gun control win. As usual, the bad guy hoses down a bunch of innocent people. He had to reload several times. He was engaged by a good guy while exiting the crime scene. Not engaged by the cops. It was all over in just a few min. He was gone before the cops arrived. Any of this sound familiar?

      Gun control only controls the “law abiding citizen”. Someone who has evildoings on his mind has little care or worry he will be breaking a gun control law. Gun control laws only add to the ease of killing non retaliatory targets. Gun control laws are what makes this kind of attack possible and certainly more effective for the bad guy. When the good guys are disarmed, the only hope for safety is the government. There are at least 49 more people who would wish they at least had a fighting chance to survive. I an certain their relatives and friends would also have something to say about being able to defend oneself. The simple fact is the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Simple, effective, common sense. WE are the first responders. The cops simply can’t be everywhere at once so, most of the time, they show up for clean up duty, they rarely actually engage the bad guy. Would you REALLY want the cops on every corner anyway? Here in the states you can find cameras on just about every intersection and there are very few real time situations for the cops to access. Most of it is gathering proof for a trial, long after the situation has ended.

      Tactics. Should you find yourself in such a situation, I would hope that you are armed and willing to stop the threat. If not armed your choices are few. You can run, hide and maybe call your loved ones before you get murdered. You can’t outrun a bullet. Something of note here is the bad guy reloaded several times. During those times of reloading is a golden opportunity to attack the threat. Think about it. Even if you loose, you will not have lost anymore that you were going to loose in the first place. If you manage to stop the bad guy, you will have saved lives. A definite win. Just like passengers of a terrorist controlled aircraft, you have nothing to loose and everything to gain by fighting back. That is one of the lessons of 911. If you don’t stand up and take control of someone who is hell bent of destroying lives you and a lot of other people are going to die. You MUST fight back, there is no other option.

      Next, the gun control proponents are going to want to blame the tool the guy used. I submit that he could have used explosives, a vehicle or even chemicals to accomplish his goals. All of those tools are readily accessible, makeable to anyone who has access to car keys and/or the internet. It is not the tool that is evil, it’s the person using the tool. Common sense unless you are a member of the gun control lobby, a treasonous politician, a treasonous judge, a treasonous enforcement official or an accident/incident chasing lawyer.

      The answer. The ONLY true answer to a situation like this is to be armed, aware of your surroundings and willing to stop the bad guy by any means necessary. Cops, judges, lawyers and the media come later. If you are not armed, you should be. If you do not carry, you should do so, if you are not trained as to how and when to deal with a situation, get that done asap. Practice. I don’t just mean target practice, join a combat, competition league. This will grow skills you may need to survive. It will also give you an understanding of just how long it takes to engage a bad guy. Be aware of your surroundings. Anything out of place, out of the norm, anything that your gut says is wrong is something to pay attention to. This is NOT paranoia, it is common sense. The sad fact is that terrorism exists, that bad guys exist, that murderers exist, that robbers exist, that rapists exist etc. If you are not prepared to deal with any of these you may very well wind up as a statistic. Armed 24/7 and willing to accurately, rapidly, employ that arm is the only answer. For those who wonder just how long, how much time you have to engage and defeat the threat(s)—the answer is: the rest of your life! So, even if you have to be civilly disobedient to do so, be armed 24/7. Arm up, carry on.

    13. Well presented information, I had googled the New Zealand gun laws after this shooting; but you present a much clearer picture of gun control and more so the gun owner control there. I hope you update us once it is explained how he had Full Auto weapons in a country that all but bans them.

      1. NZ Laws arent restrictive. They’re about the same as the more pro-gun parts of the USA. Firearm ownership is high. Shooter did not use full auto weapons but military style semi automatics. i imagine these will be banned in NZ now, though, like Australia, sporting semi automatics with ower magazine capacities will still be available to farmers and professional shooters.

        i find the comments on this page kind of odd. A bloke just shot 50 people dead in a place of worship. (‘mussies’, as tomcat says. you really are a dickhead, mate) it’s not a good thing. well, unless youre a white supremacist. Which i guess many of you are. good luck with that.

    14. And the “good guy with a gun” is now a criminal. Note this:

      Owning a firearm for self-defence is specifically excluded, and prohibited.”

      1. It’s the same in the UK. Keeping and carrying arms for self-defense is considered “looking for trouble”. Unfortunately, all too often trouble is looking for you.

      2. n.r.ringlee, and that person did not want to nor use it for self-defense. Since they “allowed” for hunting, I guess that must have been what he stated on his application. He must not have listed the animals that he wanted to hunt. It seems he must have lied about why he wanted the firearms. Who would do such a thing? Isn’t that illegal? He also must have gotten three like-minded individuals to vouch for his character. So much for character references. I guess they will now require character references for those providing character references. That will keep them safe, right?

      1. Only those minions of the government and those who guard the wealthy are supposed to have the means of self defense, dontchaknow. Look how well that worked in nazi germany, the soviet union, venezuela, and everywhere else there has been a socialist “worker’s paradise”.
        Those millions of “counter revolutionaries” murdered by one means or another by their own governments deserved their fate, according to those who would see us disarmed and helpless.

      2. There is no such thing as gun control! There is crime control, that would only impact the democ rat voter base, and there is communist gun confiscation plans. The use of the term “gun control” is democrat communist subterfuge. Gun control only applies to law abiding citizens. Citizens who have never been, nor will they ever be, any part of the problem. The problem being communistdemocrat gun confiscation scams.

    15. New Zealand gun laws, more particularly their USE OF FORCE LAWS MADE THE DEATH TOLL OF 49 POSSIBLE.
      Maybe the nut case would not have tried if the mosque was armed. Even if he did, the death toll would likely have been lower.

    16. It turns out that a “Good Guy with a Gun” opened fire on this jackwagon. That said, he is a self described “Socialist, Eco-Fascist, China Loving, Conservative Hating malcontent.” He also stated that he is “Hoping for a Civil War in the US.” Real Charmer!

      Wake up boys and girls, the world is waking to history.

        1. When Christians are slaughtered it doesn’t fit the narrative. Unreportable for the caliphate news network and mslsd.

        1. An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may be forced to pay for his acts with his life. ~Robert A. Heinlein.

      1. They are banning guns, but not “GoPros” or automobiles (or abortions).
        Why don’t they ban “Media Assault Mind Programming”?
        For hundreds of years Muslums enslaved, murdered, robbed, pirated, invaded European Christian civilization. Finally the Europeans mounted the Crusades in self defense …. all WE hear about are “Those awful Crusaders”
        Now who is REALLY to blame, who has been whipping up antiMuslum hyeteria for Deacdes in movies, TV, video games, the “press” …… yes, that is right …. those that Control the MSM. The dusky bearded terrorist evil one in every movie, comic book, video game, ALWAYS muslum.
        Now either Muslums are enslaving, murdering, robbing, pirating, and terrorizing, or the MSM is Inciting violence for no cause ………..
        So do not blame ME or Our RIGHT to bear arms for any shooting. ALL actions are preceded by the thought and the MSM has been pounding home the THOUGHTS and WORDS of violence . Every action is set in motion by a thought, and the thoughts have been spread by the MSM.

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