Attack on Utah Gun Rally Smacks of Ignorance, Insults & Projection

Anybody see any “bullies” here, as opposed to fellow Americans and patriots? (UT Gun Rights/Facebook)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “People openly carried guns, even assault rifles, to the recent gun rally at the Capitol,” a Friday opinion piece titled “Gun Rally Smacked of Fascism” in The Salt Lake Tribune whines. “The reason for brandishing guns is hard to fathom.”

If they were actually brandishing them, it would be. Except Utah criminal code is quite clear that:

“‘Threatening manner’ does not include: the possession of a dangerous weapon, whether visible or concealed, without additional behavior which is threatening…”

“The question, then, to the armed participants is: What exactly did you have in mind?” the missive continues.  “What is the unarmed citizen to think? Are the guns meant to intimidate, to bully the majority? That’s not democracy, that’s fascism.”

What the demonstrators had in mind is obvious to anyone who cared to listen to their concerns rather than immediately dive into prejudice against the very thing the Founders deemed “necessary to the security of a free State.” They don’t want usurpers to violate the oaths they took and infringe on the tools for preserving that freedom.

What the unarmed citizen should be thinking, if he has any self-respect, is “Why am I forsaking my rights and shirking my duty, and further trying to undermine the rights of my countrymen?”

Demonstratively advocating for those rights is now “bullying”? Kind of like the way gun-grabbers equate self-defense with vigilantism…?

As for fascism threatening the rights of the majority, our opinionated critic has things exactly wrong. The Bill of Rights is meant to ensure against the tyranny of the majority, the wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner scenario. If he wants to get technical, fascist archetype Benito Mussolini won the popular vote in the 1924 Italian general election by a two-thirds majority landslide.

Our lecturer goes on to insist, on his own say-so, that 90% of Utahns want “universal background checks,”  that doing so will save lives, that infringements do not violate the Second Amendment, and that those opposed don’t care about the lives of others and many are probably criminals to boot.

Again, criminals don’t give a damn about background checks—they don’t go through them. Prior restraints on a right by definition infringe. And no less an authority than the National Institute of Justice in its “Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies” concluded:

“Effectiveness depends on the ability to reduce straw purchasing, requiring gun registration…”

That’ll be the next demand.

But first, he expects us to endure more insults: We don’t want a safe environment for ourselves and our children. Evidently, it would be better if all those lives saved by armed citizens, for the most part by brandishing (using the term correctly and lawfully this time) would have been taken.

As for people being scared, how we’re responsible for someone else’s hoplophobia is left unexplained. We can’t control how others choose to feel, nor the degree of rationality they bring to their decision to quiver and melt. What we can do is point to every NRA Annual Meeting within recent memory, and the recent armed rally in Virginia, where tens of thousands of armed citizens conducted themselves with extraordinary camaraderie and consideration.

And as for the “gun deaths” he decries, it fair to point out the overwhelming majority are committed by lawbreakers in “progressive”-controlled cities, and that he would be hard-pressed to find even one committed by one of the five million NRA members, arguably the most heavily-armed civilian population on the planet. Predominant “gun control” laws and generational political and social sentiment discourage average urban citizens from keeping and bearing arms, and the majority he so values are conditioned to vote unquestioningly for anti-gun Democrats.

“You have a Second Amendment right to have a gun in the home for self-defense and that's where your gun should remain for a rally,” he concludes, once more astoundingly wrong on all counts. The truth is, if he wanted to be consistent with the stance that guns are to be feared and having them endangers children, the home would be the last place he’d want them. It's reasonable to expect he no doubt doesn’t. And of course, it’s not just “keep,” it’s also “bear.” Otherwise, we’re pretty much talking about the world outside our doors being one big “gun-free zone,” and we can see how well those have worked out.

More troubling than an anti-rights zealot being wrong about practically everything he spews is the approving reaction from comment posters. We’re treated to no shortage of compliments to the writer for his wise insights, to Alinsky Rule 5 ridicule, to  insinuations about the intellect and/or masculinity of the rally-goers, as well as the obligatory Fudd kapo sharing his big “I’m a hunter, but.” They bring nothing to mind so much as a classic essay and longtime favorite because it rings so true to experience, “The Anti-Gun Male.”

Those of us who have a lot of respect for the type of forebear who could tame a wilderness against all odds scratch our heads at the worthless heirs of liberty insisting not only on squandering their birthright but demanding we forsake ours as well. That’s not going to happen, and if that means occasionally reminding indignant and contemptible bedwetters that we will not disarm and have the means and will to resist attempts to make us, then so be it. They ought to be thanking us for discouraging them from working up the nerve to really do something stupid.


About David Codrea:David Codrea
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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“Infringe” ~ To get in the way of; to inhibit; to limit; to restrict; to control; to insert something by means of force into an area it does not belong or is prohibited access to.

American Patriot
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Hmmm….They even carried assault weapons, like what rocks, forks, knifes & brought there cars. WTF everything is an assault weapon if it can assault someone & by the lefts standards that would include your mouth!

StWayne
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StWayne

For anyone who thinks showing up to a rally armed is “threatening, bullying or intimating,” clearly has no idea as to the function of the 2A when it comes to confronting a tyrannical government. It’s like saying that only those who are masked with ANTIFA, as armed with clubs and pepper spray, have the right to be intimidating: but only if that’s how your racist head decides to interpret it. I was there, and I worked a security detail for President Trump at the 10 OCT 2019 rally at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. ANTIFA is so bad, they… Read more »

JDT
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JDT

ANTIFA needs to be listed as terrorist group and given the WACO treatment, but it might be hard for the FBI to raid a bunch of suburb basements. hahahaha!!!

Grim
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Grim

There goes Utah starting down the road as have NYC, Colorado, Washington, Oregon. California and Virginia. Nest thing you know, Bernie will be the Dems candidate.

Arizona Don
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Arizona Don

Nominee he is already a democrat candidate.

Buzz
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Doszap asked where did they come from? They came from CALIFORNIA.
When California started to go to Hell, They started moving to Idaho, Arizona, Utah, Colorado and any other western state to Escape the Tyranny being piled on by the Demoncrats. THEN they have been doing their best to turn these fine States into the “CRAP” Hole that they had ran away from.

Doszap
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Doszap

“People openly carried guns, even assault rifles, to the recent gun rally at the Capitol,” a Friday opinion piece titled “Gun Rally Smacked of Fascism” in The Salt Lake Tribune whines. “The reason for brandishing guns is hard to fathom.”

What happened to Utah?, where did these pussies come from?.

Quatermain
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Quatermain

Well, I will catch flak for saying it but I have lived and worked among them. So simply put; don’t overlook the Mormon angle. They are odd ducks. Mitt Romney was only able to get elected because the Mormon hierarchy backed him and the voters went in lockstep. Nothing against the average Mormon, mind you, as I have multiple Mormon friends, but facts are facts. The Salt Lake tribulation does not publish items against “the church” without its permission.

Robsg23
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Actually, The Salt Lake Tribune is a liberal rag that takes every opportunity to shovel the garbage and also to criticize the Mormon Church. Most of my Mormon neighbors and friends are very well armed and are against gun control. Miit Romney barely got through the Primary over his Republican opponent (who was a way better choice). At that point, the General Election choice was between him and a transgendered socialist radical Democrap. Wasn’t good…

Quatermain
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Quatermain

Why and how did he get through the primary? Point is he did. Don’t be naive. As I said I am not speaking out against the individual Mormons but a little study on the church goes a long, long way to understanding the bigger picture. The Mormon church is not what it appears to be.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Q, What is it, then?

StWayne
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It’s a cult. And when is a cult no longer, a cult? When it gets enough signatures to say that it’s not, is when. It’s only official, however, when the IRS grants you tax exempt status. This, just as it was for the religion of Scientology. They are no longer a cult because they garnered enough signatures that allowed the IRS to grant them tax exempt status. But only after, they promised to stop harassing the IRS and its employees. (True!)

Quatermain
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Quatermain

See @StWayne’s comment below. Then follow the money…

StWayne
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StWayne

My neighbor is Mormon, and she is forced by her church to vote as they dictate! She doesn’t always like it, but will nonetheless do as they say.

RoyD
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RoyD

Guess that’s up to her now isn’t it. Why did you mention it?

Finnky
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Finnky

@StWayne – Are you sure? Poling place is supposed to insure that everyone’s vote is made in private. You can tell anyone anything, true or not, about how you voted – but they won’t actually know.
If she disagrees, she should just vote her beliefs.

RoyD
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RoyD

Unless it is a mail in ballot.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Finnky… Unless their poling place were in the church .

Robsg23
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Robsg23

Complete Bullsh*t, Dude. Either your neighbor is telling you a BS story or you’re making that up.

Jim
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Jim

The pussies came from California–like a virus they are spreading and bringing their dangerous politics with them as they escape from the PRC–they just do not learn–nor do they want to.

Cruiser
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Cruiser

Shame on every Gun Owner who votes Democrat!!!

Doszap
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Doszap

Baby murdering anti gun, anti American Commie Bstds.

Doszap
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Doszap

I love these FAKE ARSED POLLS, all are flat out lies or only given to 95yr old nursing home occupants with dementia ,and Democraps.(I meant Communists).
Sir,No your R T K AND BEAR arms means anytime, anywhere.

RJL
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RJL

FEAR OF WHAT IS RIGHT! What are you afraid of? I will tell what I fear, the erosion of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights without due process in which the foundations of this country have existed upon for over two centuries. The re-interpretation, and the re-defining of these original documents is a perverted insult to the legal citizens of the United States. Many U.S. Families, including mine, since the inception of these documents have shed their blood to protect these foundations, and continue to do so in the present day. Our forefathers did not arm the American people… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

Amen!!!!,
I couldn’t have said it better.I am so SICK of these IGNORANT STUPID people who are either CLUELESS or have an agenda(COMMIES).
We have to remember the last at least THREE generations most of our citizens have been taught NOTHING other than PC Crap and COMMUNISM.
If I were 20yrs younger I would be running for Political office.

Tionico
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Tionico

throw your hat in the ring anyway. SOME folks appreciate the wisdom that comes with years f surviving against all odds. Others? Well. they deify a silly sixteen year old gurl who is as clueless as the pile of rocks out in my backyard.

Finnky
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Finnky

@DZ – Just how old are you anyway? Look at current presidential candidates – on demo side one is too young and I would have rejected simply for age. Looks like 80 year olds are in vogue with the younger generation – so unless you are 90+ you’ve got a shot as a demo. You can be our Manchurian candidate.

Jim
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Jim

When we talk of “all gun owners” voting think about this. We have about 100 million gun owners in the country. But some 85 percent of those are prejudiced towards other guns and their owners. For EXAMPLE, trap shooters are not fans of ARs, small bore competitors don’t care much for any military type lookalike, many hunters think ARs are bad, pistol shooters…, it goes on and on. What these dummy’s do not realize is those after the Second Amendment and freedom are after it ALL!

Doszap
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Doszap

People who just hunt,and only touch a firearm once a year to me are not true practitioners of their rights.(Well gotta go get my deer rifle sighted in),6 shots and done.Let’s start a BAN the Bow Hunters movement, and see how many RAISE Hell.Get our point guys?. Most Gun Owners are never at the POLLS. It’s the same 80/20 rule. 20% do all the heavy lifting for the other 80%. I have donated thousands and thousands of dollars over 40 yrs +, to NRA /GOA/JFPO/SAF, etc,etc, and countless Politicians,and all it’s done is to keep them at bay. If your… Read more »

Finnky
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Finnky

@Jim – Maybe it’s living in Texas – but I thought ARs are hunting rifles as well as the defacto competition gun and a very popular plinking arm. While some pistol shooters tend to look down on rifle shooting because pistols are harder to master – most also have a rifle or two (dozen?) and tend to encourage others to pursue ALL shooting activities. Same for trap shooters who typically have rifle(s) and pistol(s) as well. As for hunters – the more avid among them bow hunt in bow season, some hunt in rifle season while some stay away for… Read more »

Vanns40
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Vanns40

Every author of every article submitted to Ammoland or other venues take note; THIS is how you write a successful article that is re-published over and over again.

BowserB
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BowserB

Attention gun owners. Protest all you want to, but the only protest that matters is at the polling place. Gun owners–ALL gun owners–have got to vote. In 2018 we lost the House of Representatives to the Democrats. They won the house with a total of 118 million people voting–just UNDER 50% of eligible voters. With 124 million gun owners in this country, we have the numbers to influence the outcome of most elections (although probably not in the15 largest American cities, but everywhere else.) All we need is for gun owners to vote. Rain, snow, sleet, long lines, having to… Read more »

RJL
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RJL

Mandatory Voter ID in all 50 states, along with Term limits for all elected positions.
No “K” street lobbing for at least ten years after their elected position ends.

Tionico
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Tionico

term limits wont fix a thing. Case in point” consider the four “squad” newy minted “representatives” SOME meatheads had to VOTE for those empty headed louts. No, term limits will never fix lazy stupid ignorant voters who refuse to spend a few minutes researching the candidates, what they stand for, what their expience is, and what they claim they want to do, nor their track record. If AOC, Omar, Tlaib, or the other com-madre of these gets reelected, it will be absolutely prrof that term limits will fix nothing. THere are thousands more like these four, waiting to be brought… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Tio, Term limits preclude lifetime career politicians. Have you seen any presidents run for a third presidential term, lately?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, Trump will not run for a third term. Trump is law abiding.

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

OV, FDR, the Socialist had 4.

Coelacanth
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Coelacanth

Dearbornistan, Michiganistan has the votes to put their moslem candidates in office by sheer numbers of moslem voters. Same thing in Minnesotastan. When they do this in every state, look out!

Nemo1948
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Nemo1948

“What is the unarmed citizen to think? Are the guns meant to intimidate, to bully the majority? That’s not democracy, that’s fascism.”

Perhaps we should remind these bozo’s that it’s a Republic, not a democracy?

Doszap
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Doszap

Democrats HAVEN’T read the Constitution some, ever.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Nemo, And we could remind the bozos that guns prevent bullying.

Larry
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Larry

“The reason for brandishing guns is hard to fathom.”

No doubt this moron doesn’t understand why there would be monster trucks at a monster truck rally.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

The Salt Lake Tribune? Why does anyone spend money on a news paper anymore?

KC
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KC

The Epoch Times

The Washington Times

New York Post

There are still some good newspapers for those of us who like newspapers.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@KC, Do they actually gather the facts? Because investigative journalism is expensive. That is why the NYT, Wash. Post (aka Pravda on the Potomac), the Mpls Trib, and so many others don’t do it anymore.
It is easier and cheaper to have the staff just sit at the keyboard and twist things, repackage dnc talking points, or just make stuff up.

Doszap
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Doszap

I like how most specialize in running a story after only reading the lines THEY like to fit their POLITICAL leanings and write them out of context.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@OV, Were they libtards or journalists? Which form of bankruptcy? It could be party time!

Cruiser
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Cruiser

I agree, what will we line our bird cages with? if it weren’t for newspapers.

Tionico
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Tionico

the nickel tax paper bags we now are forced to buy at the grocer’s store.

Dubi Loo
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Dubi Loo

Great article David, I was proud to share it.

Considerthis
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Considerthis

I totally agree D.L. !
I consider him a National Treasure !
We should take note that he does not launch any attacks on people that support gun rights and freedom, only on the enemies of gun rights and freedom.
Some people that post here would do well to follow his example.

Knute
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Knute

Those trollish types are the “contemptible bedwetters” that Mr. Codrea mentions in the article above. Lots of them start out with the CLAIM of; “I’m a gun owner BUT….”, and others will actually put the words “gun owner” right in their username. But ask such ones what the six-letter word for a firearm’s dangerous end is, and they either ignore the question or vanish completely. Only to sometimes come back a week later pretending not to have seen the question. This is where we must not let such posers off the hook. Keep asking them, over and over, to demonstrate… Read more »

Dubi Loo
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Agreed Knute. Just FYI, I know it sounds stupid, but I posted here a long time before I noticed and figured out how to use the icon to follow postings. So folks could have been challenging me, and I never would have seen it. I forget who posted how to trigger the icon, but I’m grateful.
Safe ride

Larry
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Larry

It’s “nozzle.” I learned that from two newspapers in my old home town.

Knute
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Knute

Run “Firearm’s dangerous end” through google or a crossword dictionary. It’s even more comical. This is why I find this question so hilarious. It short circuits google, otherwise known as the “great troll brain.” Phrase patent pending 🙂

Tionico
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Tionico

that’s for the faint of heart who don’t have the guts to actually CARRY a real firearm everywhere. Only squirt guns have nozzles…….

Tionico
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Tionico

You’re welcome………

Nickname
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I’m sorry, man. I can’t resist; I’m a gun owner BUT I carry a knife, too. Also, it’s the pewwie (6 letters) end.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Nick, Perfectly understandable … can’t whittle with a pistol!

Dubi Loo
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Dubi Loo

Amen! As soon as the name calling starts, the writer has lost the argument. We need to stick together for the foreseeable future. Ignore the trolls. There are idiots that get a kick out of aggravating people just for the “fun of it,” no matter the topic. Safe ride

TheRevelator
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@Dubi Loo “There are idiots that get a kick out of aggravating people just for the “fun of it,” no matter the topic.” There are also some who know their stuff, and challenge others on the basis of evidence. IT is wise to know which is which and not let oneself become a victim of ones on ego in an attempt to avoid said evidence. The truth should always come first, no matter which side it lands on. @Consider this has been on both sides of it since he came here. I hope that one day he may learn from… Read more »

Dubi Loo
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@Revelator, I could not agree more. Often times I can tell who the writer is before I even look at their screen name. It’s not hard to separate the wheat from the chafe here. We have some wonderful authors on this site, we also have a few not so good, and one whose pieces I refuse to read.
Safe ride

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Dubi Loo
Indeed. 🙂 Hope to see you around.

Dubi Loo
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Dubi Loo

I’m around every morning, but mostly I remain quiet and share the more relevant stories.

Knute
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Knute

Dubi Loo:
I can guess who writes the pieces you refuse to read. I’ll bet it’s the same pastel cartoons lover that I avoid! 🙂

Terry
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@Rev, “The truth should always come first, no matter which side it lands on.” I couldn’t agree more. ‘You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts’. Truth=facts.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Terry
Something I have written about constantly over the last few years here. The equation I have given before is

“Evidence proves Fact, Facts show Truth.”

It must always follow that order.

Knute
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Knute

Wil: Agree. Far too many today think that starting with; “I believe…”. equals evidence! Few know the difference between opinions and facts anymore. We have our government controlled schools to ‘thank’ for that.
But most here are exceptions to that. Not all, but everyone pretty much knows who the SJWs in disguise are…

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Will
The key to figuring out if someone ranting about evidence is using evidence instead of opinion is to examine and compare the evidence. 🙂

The one who cannot provide evidence to overcome the other with sources other than themselves, and who then attempts to dismiss evidence presented as “Opinion” without evidence to back that statement up is usually the one with his foot in his mouth and no evidence in hand.

Again, evidence always proves fact, and facts show truth.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

Addendum to my above reply to @Will A good case in point. Thanks to the wonders of senility, the Gaff machine known as Joe Biden let loose with a claim in the debate the other night that 150 Million people have been killed off since 2007 thanks to America’s refusal to embrace the left’s ideology on gun control. He also doubled down and stated “More dead than all wars combined”. While most are not dumb enough to fall for such a buffoonish claim, the simple examination that one half of the entire US population being killed off in 13 years,… Read more »

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

Gotta love the people who refuse to respond when they know there is no way to argue against what was said. 🙂

Evidence always wins. lol