Corona-Virus Preparation: is our Government Prepared for the Border Swarm?

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Corona-Virus Preparation: is our Government Prepared for the Border Swam?

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- A few years back while living in New Mexico I attended a Homeland Security Combating Terrorism Conference. The days were spent watching videos of bombings, explosions, and all manner of terrorist attacks on both American and foreign soil.

However, the briefing that got my attention the most, was a short forty-five minute, New Mexico, state, public health presentation about potential large-scale medical emergencies on the US – Mexican border. The majority of the people attending the conference were from New Mexico and Texas. The big topic on everyone’s mind was weapons of mass destruction.

We continued each day of the conference learning how to train, equip, and prepare to deploy, first responder assets. What if, there was a large bombing incident in downtown Dallas that kills a thousand-plus people? Or, what if there is a radiological disaster in Albuquerque (more nukes in that town than anywhere else in the US) that contaminates a large part of the city? The major problem I discovered was no one was prepared or politically able to discuss the “Border Situation.”

Lots of discussion about how to meet a projected crisis, but for the most part it was all done as if the US-Mexico border did not exist on the south end of four of our states. The most powerful “first world” country on this planet is sitting right next door to one of the neediest “third world” countries, with only a partial fence between them.

Another what-if question, what if a new strain of swine flu or smallpox or today (March 2020) the CONVID 19 coronavirus, either naturally or, worse yet, man-manufactured, breaks out in Juarez City, Mexico?

The perception that there is anything that resembles a public health system in the Mexican State of Chihuahua that could deal with the above medical crisis is incorrect.

So where are all the violently ill and, the projected to become violently ill residents of Chihuahua going to go to find serious medical help? At the risk of being politically incorrect, I would suggest they will swarm across the US border and immediately overwhelm US health care.

Prior to the swarming, there will be residents of Chihuahua who are already in the incubation period of the new disease, crossing into the U.S. They will be doing just what the “terrorist” who orchestrated the outbreak in Juarez City wants them to do. They will infect people on the US side of the border, starting the total overload of the medical system. Then the swarming starts.

There are calls by factions within this country to seal off the U.S. border and attempt to get some control. I know it is about jobs and votes and politics. I know no border state politician who wants to get re-elected will take up the banner to secure this country’s southern border. But, we are talking about a potential major catastrophic medical crisis, that could shut down day-to-day life in the southern part of the U.S., of course, it will then spread to the rest of North America.

When you start the creation of the domino effect that spreads to the other states, the virus will walk right into Canada and on to Alaska. A senior U.S. Border Patrol Agent spoke at the conference. I asked him what plan was in effect, to handle the potential swarming and the ability to close the border to infected Mexican residents.

His answer was, there is none.

I brought the border issue up at other classes I attended and got the same answer. People would speak to me unofficially, but no one wanted to publicly address the conceivable idea of a catastrophic “terrorist” situation ascending on to US soil from south of the border. The perception in southwest politics is that you cannot survive if you appear too hard-lined on the border issue, even if it is for the safety and security of our country.

It is the same bone of contention that faces an American elected official who comes out opposing some issues of the government of Israel. The first thing that happens is that elected official is accused of being anti-Semitic. He or she back down right away or dies a quick political death. The point here is that thousands of infected Israelis will not be swarming the U.S. border.

We as a nation cannot back down because of perceived political correctness.

We have to make the hard decisions to protect our nation before situations involving weapons of mass destruction cross our border, even if it means the physical denial of entry into this country do to flu or plague-infected foreigners. We are already playing policeman to the world; we cannot also play doctor with the entire world.

Part of the problem is that Mexican ambulances scream across the US border every day “because it is an emergency” and you have to let them in. Mexico will never develop a first world medical system as long as they can keep sending their worst medical crisis to the US to be taken care of for free.

Now years later the nation is facing the COVID-19 coronavirus and they are getting scared. I was receiving information about the COVID-19 as much at twelve plus weeks ago and trying to pass it on to folks both in the first responding business and just people in their private lives.

UT Southwestern Medical Center – Coronavirus Briefing UT Southwestern_Coronavirus Briefing Slides_3.2.20

I use to be the creepy guy passing this potentially health and financially destructive information on, now I am the spooky guy who was right. It did, however, take round-the-clock TV news coverage to achieve this status.

No patting myself on the back, because about a week ago it occurred to me it was no longer an exercise in trying to get the info out, but the real world realization that as a 65 years old, I could contract this and die–that is even more creepy.

Mexico will swarm the border when the virus overwhelms them. The smart ones will not wait to see how bad it will get below our border, they will start coming now. Of course, those who try to be proactive on the US side of the border and attempt measures to stop the swarming will be labeled racists. But remember Mexican is a nationality not a race.

I still remember a Navy medical officer arguing with me at the above conference because I used smallpox as an example since he was adamant smallpox had been eradicated. I told him I did not care what the example virus was, I was more concerned about the swarming from the south and the health detriment to our country. I wonder what the Navy doc thinks about this current crisis. Also, I wonder what the state of New Mexico is doing to get ready to let sick Mexican nationals into their state? Remember Mexico is a “sanctuary state” and the only minority-majority state in the Union.

So there is war in Syria that is pushing refugees into Turkey and they are then forcing them into Greece against the Greek governments’ directions. Ethiopia is suffering a plague of locus that is destroying most of the crops as well and almost anything that is trying to grow. Famine is coming. The US southern border will be under attack by every sick person south of the Texas line who can get to our border. The rest of the world is dealing with COVID 19. It is all looking very Biblical to me, but of course, it will all be Trump’s fault.

The COVID 19 virus will be here soon enough and the US will suffer. How bad we will suffer remains to be seen.

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Major Van E. Harl USAF Ret., a career Police Officer in the U.S. Air Force, was born in Burlington, Iowa, USA, in 1955. He was the Deputy Chief of police at two Air Force Bases and the Commander of Law Enforcement Operations at another. He is a graduate of the U.S. Army Infantry School.  A retired Colorado Ranger and currently is an Auxiliary Police Officer with the Cudahy PD in Milwaukee County, WI.  His efforts now are directed at church campus safely and security training.  He believes “evil hates organization.”  [email protected]

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Ej harbet
Ej harbet
1 year ago

Instead of texas going blue it becomes a hellscape of the dead and dying. Yes the virus can be survived by some but then you die from not having a functioning civilization.eventually we’ll use horiffic means to try and stop its trek north but it’ll be too late. america literally dies with gasping whimper. This should be a scary novel instead of a probability

Liberty Valance
Liberty Valance
1 year ago
Reply to  Ej harbet

After seeing the long lines at our neighborhood COSTCO It is more than obvious that someone is making a great deal of money off of this disease. It may not be a hoax but no way is it legit. Your cartoon if nothing else shows your ignorance on the matter.

Liberty Valance
Liberty Valance
1 year ago

“Ignorance is bliss.” As long as you don’t live in San Francisco.
If this were really THE incident to end it all you wouldn’t last a week and neither would any moron who stockpiled food and water to last for the next 5 years. As long as you can hit a man sized target running at you 15 yards away, you’re safe.

Papa
Papa
1 year ago

Air born gets my attention. Look to the skies. I lived in Az for 50 years. One day nice blue skies and the next day a crossing pattern of crap floating around. I know that I am not the only that sees this.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago

Thirty eight (+ or -) to a platoon. So four platoons. That is not even the night shift.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago

@USA, It is neither international nor a court. It is a group of Belgian super libtards.

StWayne
StWayne
1 year ago

I suspect there will be no stopping the spread of the Corona virus. It will run its course. All viruses are designed to take advantage of their hosts nature, and nothing is more sloppy than human nature. Throughout history humankind has been plagued by illness, where the death toll, like with the Black Plague, peaked at an estimated 50 million people. You can do everything right, and still become infected. It happens all the time. Unless a country puts a complete halt on ALL travel, and puts the military at points of susceptibility with orders to shoot to kill, you… Read more »

Bobtail
Bobtail
1 year ago

More nukes in Albuquerque than anywhere in the US? I thought it might have been somewhere like Pantex?

cav2108
cav2108
1 year ago

Dude, do you really think that photo of camels with face masks has ANYTHING to do with MERS or any other virus? Have you ever seen someone bitten by a camel? You you ever seen how far camels can spit? Have you ever seen how disgusting a wad of camel phlegm is? Those camel masks have been in use since about 6000BC. They have NOTHING to do with virus, bacteria, or any other disease, and everything to do with biting and spitting..

Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Strangelove
1 year ago

This is going to be as bad as SARS! As bad as the swine flu! As bad as Ebola! as bad as the bird flu! As bad as every other epidemic that they’ve been trying to frighten the sheeple with. The CDC says that over 18,000 people have died from influenza since October. Where’s the concern about that?

WhiteRose
WhiteRose
1 year ago

Exactly correct..

Quatermain
Quatermain
1 year ago

Do you comprehend what exponential spread is? Wrap your head around that and then look closely at what governments are doing, not what they are saying.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Quatermain

@USA, I hope that those masks that you bought are marked N95. And be sure to shave close and then duct tape all outside perimeter gaps.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB, N/R/P 95 or 100 All 6 variations are good to go. For the gov to say, “Don’t buy masks, professionals need them,” is ridiculous. Hospitals don’t go to Walmart to buy their masks and the suppliers are only selling to established accounts at this point. I suspect, and that’s all it is, that the the standard procedure mask with start to filter properly of it’s sealed properly, once you’ve used it long enough that there’s moisture in the various layers. The virii should glom onto that and get caught. Not as elegant an solution as a proper mask, but… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

OV, The masks in the paint section would be the right ones, IF THEY HAD ANY. That’s why keeping your preps up is important. When you need something is way too late to try to get it. The problem is that a couple months back everybody realized this and bought out the big box stores, the med supply stores, pharmacies, and hardware stores. Then they cleaned out Horror Fright and the internet. The places that had any jacked their prices. I have boxes that are priced $15, that I was quoted $40 for, when I checked my medical supply company… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

OV, We have Southern States, but no masks. %-(

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

USA, Charcoal absorbs things rather than filter them. I don’t think it’ll do it, but if you have the packaging, see what it says.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

Will, Have you ever worn one of those things? It’s horrible. Even with the blower going that’s supposed to keep air moving and livable. Good way to loose weight though.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

Will, Well maybe a few, but I can still see down to my feet without any problems. No gut.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago

@USA, US NBC suit is OD green. Brits have camo.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB, Here you go $25, no head covering.
https://www.keepshooting.com/usgi-chemical-suit.html

Big George
Big George
1 year ago

A few weeks ago I ordered a case of the 3M N95 masks $22 per box, 10 masks per box and 8 boxes per case, mainly for uses like gardening & sanding dust, etc. with the flu in the back of my mine. Now, the very same seller is selling the same case of masks for $420. PER CASE! Be safe!

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

USA, OK, you got me going. I just wrote the President and recommended that he talk 3M, or any other company into flooding the market with Red MAGA logo’d N95 and procedure masks at normal prices. Since there’s so much price gouging going on and no masks to be found, they’d sell like hotcakes. Even better, The Dems and snowflakes would have the choice, go without a mask or wear a MAGA one.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

USA, I wish. They make you show your ID before they let you put them on. Just what we needed, masks with attitude. I hope he does take it seriously, but so far he hasn’t listened to me any more than my local Democrat reps have.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

USA, GREAT! Then YOU ask him, too. Maybe if ALL of us ask him they’ll take it seriously. I pointed out that people really wanted, no, needed the masks, due to the level of anxiety and pointed out that the hospitals don’t buy masks at Walmart so people buying them doesn’t keep professionals from getting them. Seriously, if enough people write, maybe something will get done. Mention the price gouging as well.

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
1 year ago

We can use NORMAL hygiene practices. Wash your hands, don’t touch your face with your hands, if you are sick — stay home, away from the public. If sick put on a mask. The flu has killed more people every year, thousands more, than this stuff is doing, that’s a fact so don’t panic. The way the plague got into Europe was from infected rats/people on a boat. At least until we have meds for this stuff if you are sick quarantine practices must be followed. If this thing becomes pandemic, don’t surprised if the military gets involved. IF, IF… Read more »

WhiteRose
WhiteRose
1 year ago

We do not have good info…the info we have infers that the Governments, the WHO, are hyping this issue far beyond all rationality, good hygiene and its significance is rather new and is the BEST logistical responce, else-wise follow the money. A failing Central Banking system globally, with the same individuals at the helm in every quarter of both Corporate & Governmental venues, where negative interest rates are the norm in Europe and dismal here, and where WE take out another IOU and pay with interest the bailing out of the too big to fail corporate and banking ventures. As… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  WhiteRose

@WR, implies. Info can not infer.

Nilsigne
Nilsigne
1 year ago

It’s kinda already here. I live in Seattle where the outbreak (if it can be called that yet) is. As of this posting, there isn’t very many cases but they don’t know where half of them came from and can’t track everyone who came into contact with the sick are. What’s more worrying is how people are reacting. We all saw what went down in China on the news, and because of it the grocery stores are being emptied of (stupid things like toilet paper) and other stuff, and people are acting scared. When people act scared they do stupid… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

@CFG, It is a virus. We are all going to get it. If an inoculation is developed before that … get one. Don’t touch your face. Wash more often than usual. Same as the other viral colds and influenzas. No break downs. No looting or violence.
Most of this hype is msm stuff to effect the economy and impact the election.

Superman
Superman
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

ESPECIALLY since the whole thing is Trump’s fault, according to the MSM.

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

Wild Bill is exactly correct on this. Will add a few protections.

When you get gas for your car, wear a glove. When someone pets your animals, wash them. This particular strain is denatured by alcohol (not all virus are), so use a little hand sanitizer through the day. There’s a million more, but just realize that people handle money, shovels, etc,. ad nauseam. Just look at objects and consider their possible prior use.

We gamed this stuff out in enviro Sci models years back, and there is almost no true way to avoid viruses.

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

Forgot take “Sambucol and Vitamin C.” It turns out that one paper I read yesterday suggests that children aren’t being hit as hard. Immune response is better than adults. Also I read a “Not peer reviewed yet” paper that shows a correlation with Asians being hit hardest due to higher Angiotension II levels. The second could be of concern for people with high blood pressure who take either an ACE inhibitor, or an Angiotension II blocker. There may be a shortage of meds coming. There names will either end in pril (ex. Lisinopril), or sartan (ex. Losartan).

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

Just read that paper about the Angiotension II again…It turns out that this coronavirus attaches to the angiotension II sites the same as an angiotension II blocker, so those two meds may be in safe territory.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

Greg K, If they’re competing for attachment sites, that raises an interesting question. Will having the meds onboard keep the virii from attaching as readily? Will the virii keep the meds from attaching and acting as needed? Where’d you read the article, NEJM or Lancet?

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago

Dave, I read it on elsevier, but it turns out that zerohedge ran an article about it. This is better for the layman. The scientific paper for which I did save the link, but can’t find right now, is like most science papers, thick and twisty. I had it backwards the first time…again I read the science paper, and got turned around. It seems that if they used either an ACE Inhibitor or ACE II blocker, that people’s blood pressure would drop out of sight. Essentially the virus is doing exactly what the ACE II blocker does. Fair disclosure this… Read more »

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago

Dave, and anyone interested, I just clicked on that link from the zerohedge article, and it takes you to a copy of the abstract with methods from a place called “biorxiv.” Even though it opens in full text, it is only showing the abstract, but that ain’t bad.

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

Ever try doing 15 things at once? Forgot the link to this biorxiv thingy.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

Greg, thanks for the link(s). %-) Yeah, none of us ever multi-task.
it makes sense that if it’s competing for the sites, the results might be similar.
Take it easy.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

, You say, “When someone pets your animals, wash them.” I hope that the people that pet my animals are limited to really good looking chicks with a sense of humor!

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Bill, you just gave me the best medicine of all…When I read that I started laughing and almost couldn’t stop.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

OV, I’m glad you clarified that. You are dating yourself. I haven’t heard that since the 60’s.

Superman
Superman
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

‘Shovels’? Not if my adult kids are around. They can perform all shovel work.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

CFG, WB is right on the money as far as he goes. This will affect retirement age and older people more than it will younger age groups. The other factor to consider is prior medical conditions. If you don’t have respiratory or immune system issues and are a non-smoker, it should be an annoyance, but not much more. Stay away from obviously sick people and if you are concerned about a surface, wipe it down. You don’t have to go Andromeda Strain over this. Good hand washing technique goes a long way. Youtube has a good video from Johns Hopkins… Read more »

Superman
Superman
1 year ago

What if you retired at a young age? And I am not sure the Happy Birthday song has ‘stanzas’.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Superman

Superman, Retirement age is a normal term, stop being silly.
Look it up. It’s what everybody in med school is taught.

Superman
Superman
1 year ago

So no one in med school is below average? NOPE!

Superman
Superman
1 year ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

Seattleites freak out when folks f*rt sideways. Chill. You are MUCH more likely to die of a traffic fatality in WA state than die from ANY type of virus.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Superman

Superman, I’m medically trained, I doubt that you are. It has a lot to do with risk factors. Specifically age and prior health concerns, which is what I said.
Of course you’re more likely to die of a car accident, that’s an unwarranted comparison.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago

@DIF, Dr. Irwin Redlenger (sp) said on FBN that the Chinese Corona virus has morphed into and L type and an S type. That was fast. Is recombining that fast normal?

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB, You give me too much credit. Epidemiology isn’t my area. I started in pulmonary then went to cardiac and nephro. This virus seems to be Unusual, which is one of the reasons that they’re calling it novel. My guess is that we’re learning a lot about it as we go and that making any serious guesses is a bad idea. Other than wash, avoid, and wipe, that is. The usual CYA while things get figured out. The good news is that there are a bunch of companies trying to come up with a fix, and that they are in… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

Will, I’m sorry that you’re having overload from the situation. Just because something seems innocuous at its onset doesn’t mean that it will stay that way. Luckily you aren’t forced to read what you don’t want to. Some people are concerned and the best medicine for worry is information. That is why I, and all the reputable people that I’ve heard, have been stressing that panic is not the answer. Go about your life as normally as you can, just be aware of your surroundings and how people are acting. That sounds like what we say here all the time,… Read more »

Knute
Knute
1 year ago

Dave in Fairfax:
Well said, Sir!

Nilsigne
Nilsigne
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I was reading that the S type is the older type and the L is the new mutated strain that apparently spreads faster? But different sites are disagreeing on whether it’s more dangerous or not; some are say that Virus that spread easier are less potent (I think that is word) but other say this is more dangerous and one said assuming mutations make a strain behave differently is “a flawed inference”

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

@CFG, Hmmm.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB, I’m assuming the Hmmm, was you trying to decide how to respond to CFG’s comment. Here you go. CFG, You’re right, some sites say one thing, others something else. Mutations can be dangerous, benign or irrelevant. We just don’t know yet. At the moment, researching and worrying won’t do you any good. That lemon’s been sqwoze. Pretend that you’re hunting the virus. Just sit and wait. Calm your body and mind. Once you’ve done everything to prepare yourself that you can, the rest is silence and observation. It isn’t easy, but it is what it is. Remember, no matter… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

OV, that’s a question of immediacy and a Dr joke.
I figured that was what he was up to but I didn’t want to get #MeToo’d.
Which brings up the question,
“Is there an Epidemiologist in the house.”
Maybe we can have someone chime in who is better informed.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

OV, weeeelll, if you think it’ll stop him.

Superman
Superman
1 year ago

You mean anyone except you?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

, Easy, now, brother. If you hurt her feelings, I’ll never get her to come over and pet the animals. Lol.

Greg K
Greg K
1 year ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Bill, you’re on a roll brother. We may disagree on some stuff, but when it comes to animals and chicks, not so much. For that, I caught this one on the Blaze. Enjoy!

https://www.theblaze.com/news/a-little-girl-with-autism-brought-her-stuffed-puppy-to-a-dog-show-watch-what-this-judge-did-to-make-her-day

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg K

, That melts the heart! That is the America that we deploy to foreign shit holes for. Thank you for sharing.

Superman
Superman
1 year ago

‘Medically trained’? As a veterinarian? Grow up.

Dave in Fairfax
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago
Reply to  Superman

USA, I’ll take a Guinness, please. Corona just doesn’t have the “chew” I like in my brew.