Gun Prohibitionists Exploiting Suicide to Advance Disarmament Agenda

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If only red flag laws were universal and gun locks were mandatory? Really?

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Gun advocates take the lead in embracing suicide prevention message,” The Oregonian reported Saturday. “Gun owners and health professionals are coming together to devise new solutions to the public health crisis of suicide.”

“The newly influential voices of gun owners in public health are changing the conversation — and not only in the Pacific Northwest,” the article explains. “In recent years, similar state coalitions have sprung up across the country. New Hampshire is the home of the original Gun Shop Project, a mix of firearm retailers, range owners, and firearm rights advocates who helped develop materials and training to prevent firearm suicide.”

Such coalitions can be a positive development, especially as the story recalls a show of hands at “a gun-control conference” where only two “health professionals” in an audience of 200 admitted to owning a gun. Introducing people whose exposure to guns is limited to people who know what they’re talking about has potential, assuming some may be open-minded and persuadable.

Just remember, people who are highly educated in one specialty can be just as “provincial,” uneducated, and biased as they accuse gun owners of being. That’s the main reason why medical doctors who pose as experts qualified to offer “gun safety” prescriptions need to be challenged to cite their credentials, and why those who have none but are instead parroting political talking points can be rightly dismissed as “gunquacks.”

While a commitment to educate about and reduce suicides is commendable, care needs to be taken to make certain it relies on reality and is not used to infringe on rights with due process-ignoring “red flag” confiscations and mandatory “lock up your safety” edicts – all enforced by men with guns who will use them if they're not obeyed.

So naturally, the group that has once more reinvented itself as Brady United Against Gun Violence (to mask its original goal of banning handguns, then “controlling” them, and then presenting themselves as the arbiters of “gun safety”) has teamed with the “progressive” professional propagandists of the Ad Council to, as Rahm Emanuel put it, “never … let a crisis go to waste.” They’ve come up with a well-funded, multi-media “End Family Fire” campaign, that not only stumps for compulsory storage but also uses suicides to further the citizen disarmament agenda.

That their “one-size fits all” advice does not work for all situations, and can actually cause harm if people follow it, is left unsaid.

These are, after all, politically-motivated, slickly produced advertisements, as much as the illusionists behind them want us to believe they are “public service announcements.” They’re even expanding their glossary of terms: the ubiquitous “gun violence” is now joined by another invented term of convenience, “gun suicide,” used no fewer than eight times in the initial campaign press release.

What we’re dealing with here is yet another rich Democrat-funded “Astroturf” campaign using slick Madison Avenue ad techniques to make it look “grassroots.” A good indicator of that is they have been around for several months now but have at this writing only been able to attract a little over 1,000 Twitter and 2,000 Facebook followers.

Also left unsaid in all the media noise is an inconvenient truth about suicide that doesn’t fit the parroted narrative, and that’s the prevalence of suicide in cultures where guns are not allowed.

“In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020,” CNN reported Sunday. “In 2016, Japan had a suicide mortality rate of 18.5 per 100,000 people, second only to South Korea in the Western Pacific region…”

That’s comparable with the armed-to-the-teeth United States, with some states registering significantly lower rates.

The bottom line: Many factors are involved in suicides and many measures and options may exist to help prevent them, admittedly including separating a citizen who is a proven danger from his guns and committing him into custodial care (with full due process protections). But there is no one solution that will work for everyone and at all times.

The “go after everybody's guns first” approach also ignores those who may be most in need of help, the “prohibited person” underclass population, more prone to ravages of unemployment, drug abuse, poverty, and general depression,  that possesses “illegal” guns. And don’t forget, guns are also banned in jails and prisons, both of which suffer from alarming suicide rates. Ironically, they’re actually highest in California, which imposes “safe storage” and has been given an “A” grade for its laws by Giffords.

Also, and this runs against the “gun control” contention that police should be the “Only Ones” with guns, is the longstanding inconvenient truth that more police die by suicide than in the line of duty.

As economist John Lott and co-author John E. Whitley observed in The University of Chicago Law School’s The Journal of Law & Economics:

It is frequently assumed that safe‐storage gun laws reduce accidental gun deaths and total suicides, while the possible impact on crime rates is ignored. We find no support that safe‐storage laws reduce either juvenile accidental gun deaths or suicides. Instead, these storage requirements appear to impair people’s ability to use guns defensively. Because accidental shooters also tend to be the ones most likely to violate the new law, safe‐storage laws increase violent and property crimes against law‐abiding citizens with no observable offsetting benefit in terms of reduced accidents or suicides.

A common factor among suicides is the belief that no other choice is available. Politically restricting choices for everyone is not the answer and ignoring what the Founders deemed “necessary to the security of a free State” is nothing short of cultural suicide.

Also see: New York Times Champions Suicide, Except with Guns


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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StLPro2A
StLPro2A
1 month ago

Your body, your choice. Suicide is abortion in person. Unless it doesn’t fit the Libtards’ agenda du jour.

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
1 month ago

Well its only a law if the people Abide by any so called laws/restrictions or policies that a Biden or worse yet Harris Admin would try to impose or force on the people!I will lose all firearms that are banned or outlawed by a Biden Admin since they are basically stealing the election! If Biden is permitted to steal this election then there is NO JUSTICE in America any longer and i will NOT abide by any Government that says its in charge! There is no way a man that was drawing in thousands of supporters to airports and over… Read more »

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago

Not long ago I ran across a comparison of Canada with the US. Culturaliu, economically, socialy, etc we are both quite similar. Suicide rates in both countries are statistically equal. MEANS of suicide, however, differ sharply. Canada’s use of firearms for that purpose is a small fraction of US use for the same. WHY is this? In Canada, possession of handguns is almost non-existent, thanks to their draconan “gun control” laws. Thus the favoured tool for the use is not in the hands of the common man to use in this manner. So why are the overall rates similar? Simple…… Read more »

Mack
Mack
1 month ago

What’s really awful is that the Ad Council ad is running on Christian and conservative radio stations.

And the Ad Council is  a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.

nobodyuknow
nobodyuknow
1 month ago

It matters not what horse the Communist Left is on today regarding their anti-gun/anti-Second Amendment agenda, their ultimate goal is to CONFISCATE every firearm from every American Citizen! The reason for this is to facilitate the Communist takeover of the United States! They know they cannot prevail with an armed population in place! And the United States Federal Government is not on your side in this matter!!! I don’t care what rhetoric they spout, NONE of them will ultimately support your right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment!!! THEY ARE ALL A BUNCH OF LIARS IN THIS… Read more »

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
1 month ago
Reply to  nobodyuknow

your 100% right! In fact Trump him self considered new firearms restrictions after the mass shootings in Texas and Minn.! He in FACT only reconsidered his decision once he was told he would lose the 2020 election if he were to create any new guns laws! He promised to not touch our 2A while banning bump stocks.Ill never want one but if anyone should want one they should be permitted to get one! Whats worse is now the NRA is going along with the new 2A restrictions rather then fighting them as they are “suppose” too! One of trhe reasons… Read more »

MICHAEL J
MICHAEL J
1 month ago

Those morons in Oregon just made it legal to use heroin and they’re concerned about suicide by firearms?
Seriously, who’s running the asylum?

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  MICHAEL J

You are stating exactly what I have been saying. I think on the larger scale this is why the democrats want to make drugs legal all across the United States so we are so wacked out that the crime with guns goes up and then they can say we need to take guns away because they are making our population unsafe and have the numbers to back it.

Your absolutely right. I used to live in Oregon now I live in Oregone.

I am armed for a safer America, I hope you are too.

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
1 month ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

I basically said the same thing you did! They want our population so wacked out they need more and more money from the Fed to pay for drug rehabs and help for those they set up to fail on drugs as they made them legal. The one major problem iwth that is that those that didnt get addicted to drugs or those that have always abided by the laws of this great nation will still NOT turn over their guns as i know i will never!! Come and take them ill say! Im too old to change and allow myself… Read more »

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
1 month ago
Reply to  MICHAEL J

LOL dont you know its only ok to kill your self by doing illegal drugs they can make money off of,whether it be threw Fed grants (they can pocket)to help all those addicted.Even though they wont bother,because as long as there addicts in the streets they will get millions if not billions of OUR Tax Dollars all while stealing from our SSI fund that is OURS the Peoples Money! Its not a bank for the politicians to fight their sexual harassment crimes and pay their lawyers as well as their victims on us????! Time to make them all pay it… Read more »

mike
mike
1 month ago

i guess if your that screwed up as to want to kill your self there are lots of ways to do it . how about tomorrow will be better WTF

Jim
Jim
1 month ago

The 2A community is offering solutions based on real understanding of the intersection of guns and mental health, as well as a voluntary way to have an FFL “hold my guns”:

https://walkthetalkamerica.org/

https://www.holdmyguns.org/hmg-locations/

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim

Im sorry but if anyone is mentally ill they should not be allowed to own a firearm. I have been in some really bad situations and yet i have NEVER thought about taking my own life! That is truly a cowards way out! Its much harder to keep living! Although i do understand why some may feel weak and decide to take their own life ,dosnt make it a brave choice! If anyone really starts to think about killing them selves and yet has the sense ot tell someone to take their guns im feeling weak then i feel they… Read more »

gregs
gregs
1 month ago

again, facts and statistics are irrelevant to leftists. only their emotions and feelings matter, i.e. blm and antifa. the fact that asian countries with strict gun control have a higher suicide rate than America doesn’t seem to matter to them. and i thought they were the party of science? seems like these groups discount actual doctors like profs lott, whitley, kleck and others, while proffering other “doctors” as credible. when “Brady United Against Gun Violence” comes up i always ask, “isn’t that the group that used to call itself “Handgun Control”? why did they change their name? leftists will do… Read more »

Jonesy
Jonesy
1 month ago

Wonder if they will use “assisted suicide” to bolster their Reasoning? New Mexico looks to be about primed for it.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonesy

I wouldn’t put it past them just like anyone that dies from anything now dies from covid. He was involved in a car crash and the impact was at 105 miles an hour into a concrete wall. Test him for covid. Did he have covid, yes. Write it down as a covid death.

CRAZY

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonesy

OR and WA have voters stupid enough to have made that an option here. And they are upset that some folks don’t use them to do it, but prefer to go the “self-service” way?
Government as god…….

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
1 month ago
Reply to  Tionico

Government is not my GOD and NEVER will be! In fact im stocked, locked and loaded and expect to be left alone or people are going to have really bad days! I already have a few plans to lose my potentially banned guns ,IF Biden walks into the White House.Ill keep those i plan to use in the War against Communism in our country but the rest will be lost til after war is over! And once Freedoms ring, again they will be found! Till then Biden…..NOT MY PRESDENT! and the next leftist POS that says we should all move… Read more »

Core
Core
1 month ago

This is old news. They have been doing this of decades. Somehow it’s still credible?? This is how they get the doctors onboard with their schema, and the data is skewed because it does not include how many lives are saved by gun ownership. According to DOJ 1300% of gun related incidents save lives and prevent victims versus the alternative.