Refusal To Comply Will Not Work On Its Own

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Refusal To Comply Will Not Work On Its Own

United States – -(AmmoLand.com)- One of the refrains that comes from some Second Amendment supporters is “We will not comply” when it comes to anti-Second Amendment legislation. If we want to look at a classic case of strategic incompetence, this ranks very high up there. It helps Bloomberg in so many ways.

One of the worst is that it feeds right into the Everytown strategy. This organization is working hard to demonize Second Amendment supporters – and looking for any hook to do so. So, Second Amendment supporters cannot just fight hard, they must fight smart against the efforts of Bloomberg and others to punish them for crimes and acts of madness they did not commit. They have to keep in mind how the techniques and approach they use come across.

Frustrating to hear, but before you vent, consider this: Michael Bloomberg is dropping $34 million for the first round of advertising. He spent $102 million to win a third term as mayor of New York City. He also, at one point, vowed to spend $500 million to ensure Donald Trump doesn’t win re-election.

So, given the pattern described, what do you think Bloomberg will do if some Second Amendment supporter is a little too hot-headed? You can bet there will be an eight-figure ad campaign making that person the not-so-flattering face of Second Amendment support – and it will be to our detriment, not just on  the political and legislative fronts, but in the areas of fighting social stigmatization and financial blacklisting. More importantly, should the time come for civil disobedience, the belligerence of the most hot-headed among us will be used against all of us.

Ideally, we avoid having to engage in civil disobedience. We’re not at the point where it is necessary for laws on the federal level. At this time, we still have a chance to make the case to the American people. We have the facts on our side. We have the historical record on our side. We won’t convince a Shannon Watts or Josh Sugarmann – but then again, the story of Dan Gross, formerly of the Brady Campaign, cannot be discounted.

Gross was not swayed by angry refusals to comply with anti-Second Amendment laws, or other, similar rhetoric that some self-appointed Second Amendment commissars demand of people so as to be deemed sufficiently pro-Second Amendment. What persuaded him instead was the fact that his purported allies – like Everytown – seemed more interested in demonizing gun owners than in saving lives.

This is where it helps for Second Amendment supporters to find Second Amendment-compliant solutions to prevent mass shootings and crimes that they can present. It won’t hurt to point out how prominent anti-Second Amendment extremists like Andrew Cuomo are releasing those accused of violent crimes wholesale.

This approach has worked before – in the wake of the 1999 Columbine shooting, the National Rifle Association used a similar approach to not only beat back gun control, but it ensured the election of a pro-Second Amendment president who put two of the justices that were in the 5-4 majority of D.C. v. Heller on the court.

There may be a time when massive, nationwide, civil disobedience becomes necessary. That said, Second Amendment supporters have the ability and the obligation to do everything possible to avoid the necessity of civil disobedience, or should that need arise, to make it clear that Second Amendment supporters were driven to it by the irrationality and abuses of anti-Second Amendment extremists.


Harold Hu, chison

About Harold Hutchison

Writer Harold Hutchison has more than a dozen years of experience covering military affairs, international events, U.S. politics and Second Amendment issues. Harold was consulting senior editor at Soldier of Fortune magazine and is the author of the novel Strike Group Reagan. He has also written for the Daily Caller, National Review, Patriot Post, Strategypage.com, and other national websites.

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Captain Witold Pilecki
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Why does this FUDD continue to write on Ammoland.com?

From someone that actually participates; Armed Civil Disobedience is only “civil” until the shooting starts. According to the III% Catechism, Patriots won’t be firing the first shots, but will fire a shit-load in return. If our claims of We Will Not Comply frighten the Hoplophobes, good…I want them frightened into inaction just like the tyrants in CT and NY and many other states currently are.

That’s not “IF” but “WHEN” the shooting starts.

donfranko
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donfranko

It is true that we must come across as reasonable sensible people, not “gun fanatics”, but, you seem to leave out that at some point we have to take a stand and say NO MORE. The democommunists are smart and are playing the LONG Game. They have learned how to “eat the elephant”….. one small bite at a time till it’s consumed. If you continue to placate the democommunists by giving in to their useless gun control demands, there will ALWAYS be more demands that follow. The demands will not end. Period.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

Are you listening to the news …London cops SHOT a terrorist wearing what turned out to be a fake bomb vest . People they are talking to “Don’t Know to Do” and they must have reissued GUNS to cops !!!!

Oldvet
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Oldvet

Harold LISTEN and take notes !

tetejaun
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tetejaun

Democrats are communists. They are not stupid.
If ONE person refuses to comply, the local police, the local stores and gas stations and the IRS will be COMPELLED to deny you service and attack you.
That is why Americans MUST organize.
It is a MILITIA, after all, not a bandito.

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax
dave
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dave

Sorry to disagree, but the time for civil disobedience has come – long ago. And that is what Do Not Comply is – civil disobedience. Look at the abject failures of gun registration schemes in several states. Perhaps you are confusing civil disobedience with open rebellion? And please do not try to suggest that somehow placating the anti-gun fanatics, or complying with what they want while ‘talking sense’ to them will help our cause. They love compliance and will only pretend to ‘engage’ in a discussion with you to find a way to use you. And it seems they’ve done… Read more »

RevJ
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RevJ

Talk and walk softly but carry a big stick, to paraphrase Teddy’s view of diplomacy, seems to be Harold’s advice, also. Be ready to speak what’s in your heart when you have opportunity; be ready to do whatever is right and honorable if the time comes to take an Alamo-like stand.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@RevJ
Harold has a long history of condemning those who are actually on the front lines fighting to defend our constitution, while at the same time trying to convince people to “Compromise” on their rights.

Don’t take my word for it though. Go back and look at his articles starting from a year ago. He is not the type of guy you think he is.

Autsin Miller III
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Autsin Miller III

Yamamoto is reported to have said (paraphrasing) “you can’t invade the U.S. there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.” IF he said that, it was several hundred million gun sales ago. Don’t you think letting our current enemies (think liberal left) know what THEY could expect has a deterrent effect on them just as it did Yamamoto? And Harold, just for the record, I will not comply.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

The Yamamoto thing has been debunked. People have searched and found no evidence that he ever said anything like that. Nonetheless, the world knows there are 100 million armed civilians in America, with 70 times as many guns as all the military and all police forces combined. Just give us a reason, and the New Militia will activate, especially a LOT of us old Vietnam vets with not many more years to lose anyway. If we can go out saving the nation for our grandchildren, we’re ready.

donfranko
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donfranko

Thank you for your service!

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

Bowserb46, Very true on all accounts.
It’s EXACTLY why the last administration tried to label all Vets as potential terrorists. The last thing the Left can abide is capable people who are in active opposition to it.
Since Thomas Paine has been mentioned in recent comments and articles, I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

I’m gone for 3 weeks helping family out, and this is what I come back to??? Harold, get your head out of your posterior. The reason people are having to say “Will not comply” is not because we are dealing with people who simply have not been handed the facts. The Gadsden snake is shaking its tail because we are in a fight against people who DONT CARE ABOUT FACTS. Bloombutt, Everytown that isn’t, and Moms Demand stupidity are not interested in facts, listening to facts, or the idea that you or I even have the right to speak and… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Rev, Hey, long time no smoke signals! Welcome back. Hope that you had a good Thanksgiving and all went well with the family!

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Wild Bill

Thanks, and right back at ya. The last message I had sent was to StWayne, saying I figured the weekend would be busy. Turns out it was a lot more than a weekend and I had to make a choice on time allocation.

Hope you and your loved ones were able to enjoy Thanksgivings blessings.

Knute
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Knute

I doubt Harold has ever ridden a horse, at all, f*cked or unf*cked. Horses are big, scary beasts, and I think Harold would call for keeping it locked up and walking everywhere instead.
What if it were to buck? What if you fell? You might look silly and then your enemies might call you nasty names. Better to do nothing instead.
Just my opinion of the inside of his head. I’ve no crystal ball. But in all of his scribblings on what NOT to do, I’ve yet to hear a single word he’s written on what TO do.

Will
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Will

@Knute,Harold’s never been on horseback.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Knute

That’s because we have told him “What” to do before. He didn’t like hearing that though because it didn’t give in to some(See also “Any”) of the infringing Gun Control the Left wants.

Bonedaddy
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Bonedaddy

What are we in Virginia supposed to do just hand over thousands of dollars worth of rifles and if there is a civil disobedience we have nothing to fight back with. That’s just what they want you asshole. I’ve read a few of your crapp filled blogs and have come to the conclusion you are as anti gun as the Bloomberg faction. I’m an honest, law abiding citizen and refuse to be punished for what others do. I say we all noncomply and let Bloomberg spend 8 million dollars apiece on the noncompliants to defame them. All of us together… Read more »

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Bonedaddy
With the only correction needed being that your rights are not granted “Under” the constitution(They exist before and separate from it), well said. The two founders which are a statistical tie for first place as favorite in my book both came out of Virginia. Patrick Henry, and George Mason.

I hope there is enough of their spirit left within your state.

Aut cum scuto aut in scuto, Liberty or Death brother.

Finnky
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Finnky

@Bonedaddy – Must respectfully disagree. The best defense remains a good offense. Not suggesting you start anything, but if they go on the offensive breaking down doors, then there is no moral reason why you should not take back the initiative. The closer you get to the head of the snake, the more effective your blows can be. Shooting the guy “just doing his job” breaking your door, would be no less morally repugnant than shooting the man ordering the raids (quite the opposite in my opinion) – but the second course of action would be far more effective and… Read more »

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

The next “shot heard ’round the world” will echo for a generation. When the jackbooted thugs come to take your guns, they’ll have to be looking in every direction. The head of the snake will be gone before 100 million formerly law abiding citizens can all even be identified. We’re going to have some Red Tags of our own.

donfranko
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donfranko

The courageous in Virginia have declared their counties as 2A sanctuaries. I suggest that as many Virginia patriots as possible support that stand, and push to get ALL your counties (at least a majority of them) as 2A sanctuaries. That is how you truly say “I will not comply”. Then be willing to step up and protect each other for they will come at you one at a time.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

If Harold had any more hot air inside of him, he would be floating around the ceiling with a string tied on his toe!

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Oldvet

You ever get the feeling that maybe he is married to a progressive that controls and keeps him emasculated by tugging on his shorthairs?

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@The Rev…I think I said this before ….I believe his daddy was lopping his mule in the flower bed and we got this cross pollinated blooming idiot , who was then raised by Welfare Granny fairy dust two shoes and kept in the basement like a mushroom .

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Oldvet
That would explain the smell.

loveaduck
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loveaduck

Some common sense, which is all too uncommon.

Darren
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The only answer is to disarm the govt. If they don’t have the police power with which to inflict their tyranny on us they won’t. All the rest like voting, lobbying congresscritters, & talk of civil disobedience is just whistling Dixie. “This subject is so self-evident, that I am almost ashamed to prove it: for if we look through the world, we shall find in no country, liberty and an army stand together; so that to know whether a people are free or slaves, it is necessary only to ask, whether there is an army kept amongst them?” –from John… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Darren, How will you disarm the police without voting, lobbing mayoral critters, and informing them of civil disobedience, first?

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

There are 913.000 police officers in the United States, and 100,000,000 armed citizens. That’s roughly 109 armed citizens for each police officer. And do you think they’ll all take the side of an arguably illegal federal government order against their neighbors and friends? A police officer lives next door to me. On the other side of him is another gun owner. There can’t be a war between law enforcement and citizens.

dbeall
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dbeall

So, in the author’s view we should simply surrender our Constitutional rights so that everyone else can keep theirs? I don’t think so.

Will
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Will

@dbeall,you have to keep in mind that poor Harold is an NRA stooge and an idiot.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

I don’t know about the idiot part, but he’s come out for the NRA way too much to deny being in Wayne’s back pocket. NRA is the nonprofit reincarnation of Enron. Unless Lapierre is arrested along with his lackeys, there is no hope for that organization every being of value to gun owners again. When Harold says that, then I’ll believe he’s more than a puppet.

loveaduck
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loveaduck

I don’t see that he said that. He’s for using patience and thoughtful efforts first. Then resort to civil disobedience

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@duck, We should be getting in practice, now, for later. Just in case.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

How do you keep from getting down in the mouth ?

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@dbeall…You have to realize he has not looked past giving up our rights or the end of his nose , which accounts for the thousand yard stare . (Happens when someone opens the door to the basement and light comes in)

MICHAEL J
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MICHAEL J

Hillary Clinton spent lots of money to get on the cover of newsweek. Unfortunately that copy didn’t sell too well. Maybe bloomberg will have equal success.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

You have to consider the source, and ignore it .

grant
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grant

Attn Floridians, a ‘Constitutional Carry’ Bill, HB 273, has been filed in Tallahassee. We need to vigorously support it. Call write your Rep/Senator. Do it yourself. Don’t depend on your ‘gun rights group’ to do it for you.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

It takes me five minutes to send an electronic correspondence to my congressman and two senators. Less if I copy and paste the message to all three. We need to all do that. 100 million emails will be noticed. Even the leftist media won’t be able to ignore it.

MgM
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MgM

Ok Harold, with the fact that more and more of the ‘leadership’ turns their back on us, State by State, they won’t even talk to the NRA, the GOA or any other gun rights group, and to date, we HAVE been showing them all the above that you speak of, and yet, they keep taking more and more away. You said; ‘There may be a time when massive, nationwide, civil disobedience becomes necessary’. I’ve got news for you, there aint no ‘may’ in that statement, ’cause they will keep caving to the MOB because they think the MOB will stop,… Read more »

jack mac
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jack mac

Our nation’s citizenship is comprised of private citizens and those citizens in public service. US citizens are not civilians. There is no civil disobedience. Our public servants are disobedient. It is these public servants who are not complying and defying the rules codified by our nation.. These servants persist in becoming the masters. Public servants even now refer to and consider other citizens as civilians. Laws for the disarming of private citizens are not a prelude to oppression, but are acts of oppression. Not complying with oppression is considered by our public servants as insubordination by their subjects.. Defiance will… Read more »

loveaduck
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loveaduck

What “procedures” do you suggest?

Bulletburner
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Bulletburner

Our rights have been infringed, denied, ignored and are endangered by the very people sworn to uphold them.
We must ask ourselves, at what point does a government become tyrannical, I believe that point has already passed. And yeah they’re watching and listening!

Billbo
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Billbo

In April 1775, At Lexington and Concord, MA, faced with an overwhelming line of bright “Red Coats,” Captain Parker of the Militia said: “We will not comply.” The British Regulars had come demanding their guns.
You can get a lot of strength, truth, and inspiration from that history.

Tionico
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Tionico

and when those Redcoats arrived in Concord a few hours later, word had preceeded them by about twelve hours, and the farmhands employed by the Captain of Concord’s Militia were busying themselves plowing the field next the road from the North Bridge. As Gage’s men under Capt Smith marched by on their way to Barrett’s farm to seize the cache of arms they had learned were there, they failed realise those farmhands were, in addition to their friendly waves and shouts of greeting to the soliders marching past, but they were “not complying” by burying that cache of arms, one… Read more »

loveaduck
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loveaduck

We’re not yet at the “shoot the bastards” stage. Will it come to that? I hope not, but I suppose we’d better be “minuteman” ready.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@loveaduck
What you fail to understand is what harold is hiding within his words.
Thanks to the efforts of those like Harold, the battle is slowly being lost state by state. Sure, it’s not at the “Federal level” yet as he said, but if you comply in the meantime state by state…..

Wisdom dictates, do not comply. Maintain your arms so that you can be minuteman ready when the need becomes dire.

im_frank
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im_frank

If not us, then who? If not now, when? (paraphrased Hillel to fit the context of the post).
If we’re more worried now about hiding our guns (red flag laws, outright confiscation, etc.) then the time for the shooting to start is already long past. (paraphrase from Martino’s Resistance to Tyranny).

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@im_frank

Good to see someone else spending time reading that book. I tried to plug it for others here on ammoland a while back.

That being said, both your comments can also be traced back to Patrick Henry, who Martino covered at the very end of that book.

Keep your powder dry,
TR

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

I might add, TR, that in addition to “keeping your power dry” you should keep the extent of that “powder” to yourself. Don’t underestimate your neighbors’ power and willingness to rat you out. Never forget McCarthy.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Bowserb46
Already factored in. I only show a limited number of the cards in my hand. Anyone seeking the rest will have to do so over my corpse. I do not live in fear, and I will not go quietly into the night.

Libertatis, vel Mors

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Billbo
As someone who has spent considerable time here quoting that history, and the words of our founders, I hope you can take a lot of strength from that and keep it, because speaking of it can put a target on your back. Especially when you have to prove your integrity and call out a friend.

Annuit Coeptis

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Heed the Call-up

Will not complying find you the target of Bloomberg? What is he, a vengeful god? We have numerous Sheriffs and localities declaring Second Amendment Sanctuaries. What has the almighty Bloomberg done, Harold? But you want us to bow to him? And that will get us what? The back of his hand when he declares himself king because everyone was too afraid to speak out? No thank you Harold. You have yet again shown us your true Leftist ideology. We will not comply… with unconstitutional laws. What has Bloomberg done to the one million+ New Yorkers that have not complied with… Read more »

loveaduck
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loveaduck

Read it again with a more open mind. He’s not suggesting what you say he has.

LibertyOrDeath
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LibertyOrDeath

I will not be disarmed for any reason. I am not a slave. If it comes down to me being a slave or having to kill for my freedom, I’m going with freedom. I will not comply.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

While the numbers are hard to pin down, I think there are around 600,000 Vietnam vets still alive, with probably 2/3 of them capable of handling an AR-15 today and half of them almost certainly armed with rifles, shotguns, pistols or some combination of all three. Most are likely in the 62-77 year old range. A lot would really like something important to do. I can’t speak for them all, but I’m a way better shot than I was in 1967-68. I wouldn’t mind my grandchildren remembering that I was part of the militia that saved our nation from a… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@B46…My daddy had me out squirrel hunting before I was 10 .

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

I have an idea…Let’s form a clandestine pro gun organization the “appears to be anti gun” so that we can get Bloomturd to donate millions to us that we can funnel to the GOA or towards candidates that will stand in the way of tyranny…that’s a thought anyhow.

USA
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USA

CL, (Reversive)

Klim
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Klim

Good call CL, We could call it Future Former Gun Owners USA. FFGOUSA, only mix up the letters like they some times do, like GOFUSFA but when you look at it under a black light it’ll say GOFUckyourSelFAssholes. We’ll make the trojan horse our emblem only it’ll be a rainbow colored trojan unicorn to get the LGBTQ demographic on board as well. Shit I think we can make this work. Get one of those offshore accounts opened up for all the money we’ll be taking in. Who wants to be treasurer? CL you gotta be the Prez it was your… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Klim…Anyone shows up in a suit over 300 dollars is out on his ear !

Oldvet
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Oldvet

BDU’s should be uniform of the day

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

I guess I’m not hip. What do BDU’s look like. I just figure to wear black cargo pants, black long sleeve fishing shirt and hiking boots. Black baseball cap until I can find a helmet.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@B46…Battle Dress Uniform (cammie jammies ) Black can be picked out to easy .

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@B46, google BDU or go to the army surplus store.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

B46…ANTIFA wears black wouldn’t want to loose you .

Oldvet
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Oldvet

B46…Sounds like an airoplane…Grab a boonie hat , better in the rain than a ball cap

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

I’m rode hard and put up wet, can I just throw a PC over some sweats and wear my boots?

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@DnF…Stay down wind

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

OV, %-)
They’re clean and so am I, just beat to crap (me) and more comfy (them).

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DiF, Not only yes, but hell yes!

Klim
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Klim

Agreed.

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

Will it be a straight up 501c Non Profit or set it up as a church? Probably get away with a lot more shit if it was a church.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

Anti-gun, pro LGBTQ, pro abortion, climate change Mom’s unlimited. ALACMU. 501c3 in Vermont. Secret accounts offshore of course.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

AH…Sec Tres…

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

Praise the lord my brothers and pass the ammunition. I’m in for sure.

UncleT
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UncleT

“This approach has worked before – in the wake of the 1999 Columbine shooting, the National Rifle Association used a similar approach to not only beat back gun control, but it ensured the election of a pro-Second Amendment president who put two of the justices that were in the 5-4 majority of D.C. v. Heller on the court.” Sure, like Bush passing the unconstitutional Patriot Act, the NRA WRITING the unconstitutional NICS, supported GUN FREE ZONES AND TODAY, SUPPORTS THEIR VERSION OF RED FLAG GUN CONFISCATION LAWS? That’s not “beating back gun control, that’s being complicit in gun control. Lets… Read more »

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

So we aren’t at the point of civil disobedience yet? I guess you must be right because they (we) didn’t disobey the 1934 NFA, we didn’t disobey the 1968 GCA, we don’t disobey the 1986 (?) act that made it so we can’t buy new full auto rifles. We don’t disobey the states that have banned certain rifles and magazines. We think that life is so sweat and peace is so dear that it should be purchased at the price of slavery and chains. We don’t disobey the IRS. We don’t disobey the local taxing authorities that decide what your… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@CL, we are at the point of small and quiet civil disobediences. Much can go on if one keeps their mouth shut. That is why you (and the feds) don’t hear about things. Silence is golden.
Have a Happy Thanks Giving Day, and Restore the Republic.

USA
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USA

CL & WB, Restore the Republic!

StWayne
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StWayne

To all my 2A brothers — Like CL, I’m 63 and still fit. I don’t smoke, gamble, do drugs, or drink alcohol. I ride bike 35 miles every other day (weather permitting, of course!) to stay that way. I don’t just straddle the thing, but bear down on it because with cycling, you get out of it what you put into it. Even so, I look more like ‘Roy “Big Country” Nelson,’ than I do a body builder. My average speed on these rides is 17 MPH. Try that sometime. I’m 5’10” and 260 lbs., and combat trained. Think on… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@ST…Happy Turkey Day ….Youngster .

StWayne
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StWayne

Hey Oldvet right back atcha! Yeah, I know. There’s going to come a day when I’ll look back on all this, and think: “Those were the days!” The trick comes in learning to appreciate them while you still have them. We can be weird creatures: always looking ahead as the days turn into years, and the years just blitz by.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

BTW…Used to be 6 ft. never weighed over 190 . Little copd and have to wear glasses otherwise great shape .

im_frank
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im_frank

If not us, then who? If not now, when? (paraphrased Hillel to fit the context of the post).
If we’re more worried now about hiding our guns (red flag laws, outright confiscation, etc.) then the time for the shooting to start is already long past. (paraphrase from Martino’s Resistance to Tyranny).

TexDad
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TexDad

Government does not have authority in this area BECAUSE we do not consent to be governed. That’s what “I will not comply.” is all about.

Yet another article where I knew the author was Harold before clicking the link. Harold, we don’t buy your defeatist garbage, and we don’t approve of your willingness to give up ground. Please go away.

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

^^^^^^^^^^^^^TRUTH^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

JPM
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JPM

Wrong again: Once again, Harold is driving down the PC highway and kissing LaPierre’s butt. He just doesn’t get it. He doesn’t want to offend the antis and thinks he can change the minds of liberals who don’t use common sense and logic, by using common sense and logic. Grow up Harold and smell the roses, or just go away.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Harold Hutchison, Ahhh … well … have a Happy Thanks Giving Day. And get a different picture of yourself because you are too young to be that grumpy looking.

Jonesy
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Jonesy

Harold, being a Liberal Toady, he has to look that way.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Jonesy, Most humorous! Have a HTGD.

Will Flatt
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OK, Harold, you threw down the gauntlet this time. Since I have been one of the most vocal “I WILL NOT COMPLY” advocates on here, I presume you want to make this personal. So I will be blunt. Harold, you don’t know SH!T from shinola!! When we who are III%ers say we will not comply, we’re stating that tyrannical and unconstitutional bills are NON-LAWS (Marbury v Madison), and we will partner with Oath-keeping Sheriffs & lawmen across the country. FREE MEN HAVE NO DUTY TO OBEY TYRANNY AND LAWMEN HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE IT. This is not strategic incompetence.… Read more »

USA
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USA

WF, I second the motion and double down on he should STFU.

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

YEAH WILL! Ill gladly stand beside you when the SHTF!

Will Flatt
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Thanks, CL! We will be alright as long as we all stand together!

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

This nation is founded upon good, sound, righteous Judeo/Christian law, values, precepts, commandments and mandates. Our declaration of independence, constitution, bill of rights and amendments strongly reflect this fact. You will be able to find GOD given rights in Scripture, some of which include; the right to life, the right of self defense, the right to keep and bare arms, the freedom of worship, the right to assemble peaceably, the right to vote. There is also the MANDATE TO BE ARMED and not just armed, but armed with the assault weapons of the day. THAT is SCRIPTURE. Our nation is… Read more »

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

I stand with you DB. I’ll just add anyone reading this should consider joining their states Militia.

Will Flatt
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Join their militia and TRAIN LIKE THE DICKENS!! Time is SHORT!

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

@ Will
The tree watering that Mr. Jefferson spoke of.

Prepper
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Prepper

Pretty sure the Constitution says “Shall Not Be Infringed.” So, all references to GAWD are entirely unnecessary. Plus, you make gun owners sound like religious lunatics.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Prep, The Constitution merely recognizes the natural Rights that God gave us. Our Rights do not come from the Constitution. The founders believed, the S. Ct. believes, and I believe that these pre-Constitution civil Rights continue even if the Constitution, or part of the Constitution were repealed. Thus, the reference to God are not “unnecessary”. Nor do I think that DB makes anyone seem like a lunatic.

If you don’t believe in God, then you must have been blessed with a very safe life. Have a Happy Thanks Giving Day.

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

Actually the Declaration of Independence recognizes the natural rights given us and the Constitution codifies them.

Prepper
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Prepper

I support your freedom of religion (that’s why religion must be kept out of the hands of government). I also support your right to free expression. I further support your right to bear arms, etc. Most importantly, I do not have to SHARE your religious beliefs in order to do so.

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

Don’t get hung up on “God” as defined in the usual sense. A higher authority can be many things.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@AH, Explain, please.

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

I’m open to the concept that some people’s supreme being could be a tree or simply the sound of water flowing in a woodland creek. Doesn’t matter to me what “it” is. Just that the understanding remains us two legged’s don’t dictate what right another has regarding the aforementioned constitutional rights.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@AH, How could our inherent pre political Rights be given to us by a tree?

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

Bleeped if I know WB. I try not to get into protracted conversations with folks like that. I’m good with whatever they want to believe just as long as they have the understanding our inherent rights come from something higher up the chain than us Homo Sapiens.

Finnky
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Finnky

@AH – or our rights were not given to us, they just are. The right to self defense is exactly as old as life itself. This right is inherent to being alive as life and self are inseparable. Both existed long before the first humans.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@AH, Yes, Comes from something higher up than homo sapiens and therefore can not be taken away by homo sapiens. That is cool.

Tionico
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Tionico

If I can take my chain saw and cut down a tree, or light a fire and burn it down to the ground, HOW is that tree a :supreme being”? I have just demonstrate its subordination to puny lil ol ME by destroying that tree, Anything muny lil ol ME can destroy is a LONG WAYS from being supreme.

Soo how silly that thinking is?

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

Tionico, there’s a Yurt up the road a ways from me that fills with these folks every full moon. If ya wanna ask em yourself I’ll take you there. But I’m stayin in the car ok?

CourageousLion
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CourageousLion

Read the “Age of Reason” in FULL by Thomas Paine. That should help you understand.

Knute
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Knute

What if… everything was created by a supreme being, whose substance is composed of all of that “dark matter” (90% of the universe…) that science says MUST exist, but they can’t find any of it?
What if they can’t find it because its Ki (or Chi), the power that runs the whole works, but it can’t be seen because it’s still, and all we humans can perceive with our sensory organs is movement?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Prep, Not requiring you to.

Treadin' Water
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Treadin' Water

I believe you mean “bear arms” unless you’re referring to Larry the Cable Guy.

mikeL
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mikeL

@DB…well stated! Have been dealing with this compliance crap here in californicatus for the last 10yrs. I know that should the time arise, I will confront those that confront me for compliance. I Will Not Comply, I Shall Not Comply! We were born Free Men in a Free Nation, and We Free Men shall continue to retain Our Free Nation. Sure, bloomturds money can buy him anything he wants. But, money is the root of all evil. And I retain the right decreed to all of us with the 2nd Amendment. When I lay my arms down, it will be… Read more »

Tionico
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Tionico

MONEY is not the “root of all evil. It is the LOVE of money that is that root. HUGE difference.

For Bloomie, he loves his money very deeply and completely, as he remains sufficiently deluded to think his money can buy him whatever he wants, as stated in this article. In his case his money IS his “power” mainly beause others so love his money they sell their souls to get what of it they can. So HIS love of money is his love of the POWER his money can buy. And HIS power/money is the root of much evil.

Knute
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Knute

It sounds like you haven’t yet become aware of the difference between money and currency…

Chas
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Chas

I will BEAR arms in my BARE arms if need be…….

ALL GUN LAWS ARE INFRINGEMENTS
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ALL GUN LAWS ARE INFRINGEMENTS

I think this article misses the point there is no enforcement! With the World’s Best US Military & most of Law enforcement standing with 120 million gun owners & even more freedom lovers what are they going to do? Hire a Foreign Military like the Brits Tried? They better never even attempt to open that can of worms cuz they will lose everything.. and things they have never dreamed of & more! A Tyrannical Government actions like killing its citizens usually strengthens the opposition. A mandatory Survey was taken in the Military about honoring ur oath to the Constitution over… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@AGLAI, I really hate to guess. Why don’t you tell us the result and where to read about this alleged poll?

Jaque
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Jaque

We haven’t lived in a Republic since only the rich and super rich can run for public office. No money no campaign no election. Bloomberg will buy his way to dictatorship. Bloomberg will buy gun control laws. Bloomberg will pay to suppress all who compete against him. Its happening as I write this. So what are Americans going to do about it ? Cry in their soup or take care of the problem?

Knute
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Knute

Or might they just choose to take bloomberg’s money to run pieces on how one should always be PC and be nice to the enemy, because your enemy might not like you if you don’t??
Does any of that sound like any authors we all know?

Will Flatt
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Yeah, it sounds exactly like the author of this article, as that perfectly fits with his Neville Chamberlain strategy of appeasement.

Knute
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Knute

Speaking of Chamberlain, do you suppose Harold ever noticed how unwell his strategy worked out for England? I think he knows. He has to read at least a few of these comment boards he’s on. But what would he care if he’s awash in bloomburger’s currency?

Will Flatt
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Curious minds want to know. If Harold actually reads the comment boards (and I believe he does based on how several of his articles make reference to things I’ve posted), then he MUST know the historical significance of figures like Chamberlain and Quisling – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling And given that Little Harold is obviously well-read and fairly intelligent, it begs the question why he doesn’t directly address the comparisons I’ve drawn between his “strategery” mantra and these historical personages; I’ve come to the conclusion that he has no defense against the charge and therefore remains silent. Although I do find it amusing… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Jaque, What Americans will do about it is vote for someone else. That does not cost a penny. Let the charmless Bloomberg pour billions into our economy that he would not usually spend, while we reject him, at no cost.
Happy Thanks Giving Day to all, while Bloomberg dines alone.

Baldwin
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Baldwin

Wouldn’t want to cross Bloomberg. Better maintain a low profile.Especially since the NRA has been so helpful!
WTAF???

Will
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Will

Join GOA ! The only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington !