Raising Smoking Age Also Raises Concerns More Dangerous than Tobacco

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President Trump hears from special interests on smoking to decide what rights American citizens “legally” able to parent, abort, gender-reassign, vote, and die for their country are old enough to make decisions on. (The White House)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “President Donald Trump on Friday signed a sweeping spending bill into law, including a measure that prohibits the sale of tobacco products to anyone under the age of 21,” CNN reports. “The restriction on tobacco sales has long been pushed by a bipartisan mix of senators: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican; Republican Sens. Mitt Romney of Utah and Todd Young of Indiana; as well as Democrats including Sens. Richard Durbin of Illinois, Tim Kaine of Virginia and Brian Schatz of Hawaii.”

What that has to do with defense appropriations is left unsaid, although you can be sure proponents have plenty of disingenuous reasons why usurping undelegated powers and excreting a group dump on the principles of federalism trumps their oaths of office. Hey, they’ve been doing it with everything else since before living memory, and besides, it’s “for the children.” The average American won’t even realize there’s a conflict. And the average judge will have plenty of stare decisis to “justify” the government’s actions should any naïve “principles freaks” try to challenge them.

“We have to take care of our kids, most importantly, so we're going to have an age limit of 21 or so, so we'll be coming out with something next week very important on vaping,” President Trump had announced in November, signaling he was all in for prohibition.

Take the tobacco products and e-cigarettes first, go through due process second? Careful with that line of thinking, Mr.President. And what's with “kids”?

Where the gun issue comes into all this should be obvious. Look at all that’s being done to limit access to rifles and handguns to anyone under 21. If you’re a “minority,”  Mike Bloomberg wants it to be 25.

As a matter of historical perspective, Audie Murphy would have been deemed “too young” to be trusted with a rifle at the time his legendary heroics earned him recognition as the most decorated combat soldier of WWII. It also flies in the face of 10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and classes:

“(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age…”

So, am I saying young people ought to smoke when we know the likely terrible health and economic consequences in advance? No. I’m saying if a citizen is old enough to die fighting for his country, he’s old enough to make life decisions. I’m saying power-motivated rule unbound by restraints has always been the greatest author of human misery and death. Always. I'm saying every loosening of Constitutional chains moves our government closer to the tyranny foreseen by the Framers when they ratified the Second Amendment.

I’m also calling rank hypocrisy on everyone who says this issue justifies it, and who would impose their will on a targeted group of citizens under the force of law.

Try suggesting to “progressives” in favor of age-based smoking bans that a person under 21 also doesn’t have the judgment or emotional maturity to have an abortion. Or form contracts and indebt themselves with student loans (scratch that one—they want you to pay for it). Or get married. Or parent. Or undergo “gender reassignment.”

Or vote. Seizing on a demographic political advantage, Democrat political momentum is picking up to lower the age to 16.

Look at the eye-rolling cult frenzy with which the environmental cases worship totalitarian teenybopper Greta Thunberg and demand the economy be upended with manipulated wealth transfers. Look at the entire Marx… uh… March for Our Lives citizen disarmament phenomenon, and the manufactured assumption that its leadership comes from youthful idiot headliners instead of the hidden elder string-pullers financing the fraud.

But they’re not old enough to smoke or vape? To describe such beliefs as bipolar would be kind. It used to be you can't have your cake and eat it too. Now they demand it, and if you point out the cognitive dissonance, you're the Nazi.

Unsurprisingly, “leaders” of the Stupid Party has been lobbied into going along with the ban under the presumption it will somehow keep even more draconian legislation against the tobacco industry from being enacted. It’s the same mentality that leads a trade association to “compromise” on guns, the theory being if we don’t throw “expendables” under the bus, they’ll go after something that’ll really hurt us!

The idea that you don’t discourage a circling pack of ravenous predators by throwing it increasingly large chunks of flesh seems not to have occurred to them.

So welcome to the latest prohibition. The thing is, don’t expect it to work any better than any of the others have when there is a substantial portion of the population demanding products the black market will be happy to supply them if a controlled market cannot. That means a whole new cycle of criminals with lucrative incentives to take risks will have been created by the people posturing to oppose them. And that means more violence, and then more strident demands that “something must be done,” including pumping even more appropriations plunder into the rights-trampling law enforcement machine, and naturally, demanding even more stupid and evil “commonsense gun laws.”



About David Codrea:David Codrea
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Grigori
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Grigori

One more bow to statism, courtesy of “our lord and saviour, DJT”.

Stag
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Stag

The government has absolutely zero constitutional authority to regulate tobacco.

USA
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USA

Stag, Tyranny flows first from the end of a writing instrument.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Guys, I know this opens up a big can of worms but just as big tobacco ADDED junk to their products to purposely addict it’s users, maybe there is something poisonous in the vaping junk. One of the most difficult things I have done was to quit chewing tobacco after using it for 20+ years. That being said, a 16year old has no business using this filth or voting, unless they are related to Werner Von Braun, they likely have little idea of what they are doing even if they think they do. Do you remember any of the mistakes… Read more »

Old Ch.E.
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Old Ch.E.

A politician is a guy that will lay down your life for his country. Texan Guinan

HoosierSheepdog1954
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HoosierSheepdog1954

If my son and daughter are required to carry and use a firearm in this republic’s defense, at the age age of 18, they’re DAMNED WELL old enough to smoke if that’s their choice — not some candy-ass talking head wearing a suit from Washington, D.C.or anybody else’s!
Looks like I’m gonna have to start buying their smokes for them…

USA
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USA

Hoosier, If I had kids 14 years old they would be proficient in being able to protect themselves as I was at even an earlier age. I’m starting to crave a smoke for the first time in years so if I’m found dead on the porch and no bullet holes are present then check me for carbon monoxide poisoning.

Tionico
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Tionico

“We have to take care of our kids, most importantly, so we’re going to have an age limit of 21 or so, so we’ll be coming out with something next week very important “kids”? Hah, when I was fifteen I was painting people’s houses for hire… had to ride my bike to the jobs, cuz I couldn;t get my driving license yet. Well, whaddya speck enniway. Kids are raised by the schools these days to have to be told every little thing to do, and coddled when they fall short. No wonder so many are still living in Mommies basement… Read more »

RayJN
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RayJN

I came to to conclusion that the daft age should have been raised to 21 not lower the voting age to 18. The 18 year olds are second class citizens. They responsible for their actions as adults, but their 2A right are restricted or taken away. Even though drinking and smoking are a bad idea, if they are adults they should be able to make the choice. The draft could be re-instated and they would be REQUIRED to carry full auto weapons. Some of the libs have already purposed lowering the voting age to 16. More brainwashed government indoctrinated votes… Read more »

USA
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USA

Ray, Just wait until they lower the voting age to fetus and cast votes for the aborted. Its coming.

USA
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USA
UncleT
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UncleT

Trump is a Nanny Stater.

USA
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USA

Nah, he’s a businessman trying to save healthcare costs by being peoples mommy while surrounded by tobacco leaves engraved on the podiums and woodwork throughout DC.

Grigori
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Grigori

UncleT, how dare you speak ill of their lord and saviour? These Trumptards, as our liberal friends so aptly labeled them, will defend any wrong he commits against us as much or more as the Obamatards defended his many wrongs.

USA
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USA

Traitors running loose everywhere destroying the Constitution and the “law abiding” gets sanctioned as if the “law abiding” is going to comply and quit smoking. Nanny state tyranny lives on.

Tim
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Tim

Eggs dam zactly. Very nice exposition.

jack mac
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jack mac

Again, our public servants have taken the authority to restrict freedom for those they are to serve. This again with the pretense of good intention. The same good intention for restricting the freedom to arms. That intention of providing health and safety for private citizens. By prohibiting the sale of tobacco to certain adults, implies that these adults are prohibited from possession. This similar to our firearm prohibited underclass. It should be known which enforcement agency is responsible to force compliance. It could be the ATF, DEA, or any public servant enforcer. The authority is increased for enforcers to raid… Read more »

USA
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USA

jack, Compliance officer will be the ones smashing down doors and killing family’s along with the pets for “suspected” tobacco violations. You know, like the smell of tobacco burning or a person reporting akin to Red Flag. They will kill Americans for “possible” violations concerning Tobacco because it is bad for our health and besides once were dead they might find something else in the house like paraphernalia or a Bible.

Whatzit
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Whatzit

We now need red flag laws for tobacco. If you think someone underage might be smoking or even might be thinking of smoking, turn them in. Armed swat members will swoop in, confiscate all possible tobacco products and issue citations and fines. I love this country…

USA
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USA

What, Hey, in a country that is swatting and murdering teen age girls to arrest her uncle when he is already in jail anything is absolutely possible. Maybe the cops just show up outside the window at night and “smell” tobacco and shoot people through the window and check ID after the fact…………………………… Prove me wrong.

JPM
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JPM

I’m sick and tired of the government making personal decisions for citizens that should be solely up to the individuals. Most laws are mala prohibita (illegal only because someone passed a law against it) which is how politicians measure how well they succeed in office (number of bills sponsored and/or passed) and most are unnecessary. Mala en se laws are the ones that are obvious and protect or prohibit something clearly dangerous (murder, robbery, rape, etc.) and are already on the books and should be enforced. Bad laws, as in the anti-gun/anti-constitutional laws being passed by states, deserved to be… Read more »

joefoam
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joefoam

Nice try fools. This is just more political pandering. You can go by any school campus and see minors smoking, which has been illegal for ever. You can also witness drug transactions displayed openly. And how many minors die on a daily basis from alcohol poisoning? Laws restricting these activities are like gun control. They sound good on paper but are completely ineffective out in real life.

USA
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USA

joe, You’re guilty! of telling the truth, good job. When I smoked I hated it and the price of butts went up and I quit smoking in a single second cold turkey. If he wanted to stop smoking he could raise the tax and make the cost unsustainable without producing crime. Cut back the Tobacco production like the gov has done to many of my business’s. You call them “fools” and I say they are “experts”. Bahahahaha.

Larry
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Larry

“I’m saying if a citizen is old enough to die fighting for his country, he’s old enough to make life decisions.”

Except for drinking, of course.

As a geezer who lived through the 18-age-of-majority watershed, only to see it whittled away right by right into meaninglessness by spineless f*g politicians, this entire subject is an insult that never goes away.

Whatzit
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Whatzit

Oh, but remember Obama told us that we are our brothers’ keepers. We have to pass laws like this to protect our children… What happened to freedom to make one’s own decisions?

USA
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USA

What, Freedom does not trump perceived safety, nor do rights. Everything is no longer safe not even the air or sunshine so we must surrender.

Grigori
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Grigori

Obammy said it and Trump does it.

Don
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Don

So, if they are under the impression an 18 year old is not capable of making life choices, at what point do we raise both the voting age and the age at which one may volunteer for military service? As both of these two things are far more important than tobacco, alcohol, and firearms combined.

USA
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USA

Don, Think of it this way, before this there was less crime. We deregulated the demon weed and reduced crime to up-regulate tobacco and create crime.

USA
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USA
USA
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USA

Do something useful, ban (all) scummy Mudslimes.

USA
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USA

The State of The Union,

A 20 year old tranny working at a local major retailer is showing off a new tattoo that is hidden from plain sight due to parents won’t let tranny get a tattoo until at least 25 years of age although surgical gender reassignment is okay.

Fact!

USA
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USA

Spray them with chemtrails from birth and inject them with Mercury vaccines that contain fetal tissues unregulated by the CDC and ban their Butts due to health concerns. Our tax dollars are really working hard for us now.

USA
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USA

Only an idiot thinks banning younger folks from smoking will stop them from doing so. Creation of another black market is plain stupid. The logic of tyranny In Orwell’s classic fable, Nineteen Eighty-Four, the protagonist Winston Smith makes a key statement: Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. Following the trial of the surviving Branch Davidians in San Antonio, Texas, in March, 1994, in which a misinstructed jury acquitted all the defendants of the main crimes with which they were charged, but convicted them of the enhancements of… Read more »

Larry
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Larry

And Trump… all of a sudden he is playing four-dimensional “suicide chess.”

USA
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USA

Larry, In his shoes I would have slid that pile of trash off the end of the table into the trash can and applied myself to something more reasonable. People are producing children before age 21, starting families and working for a living so to ban their butts is laughable. What a fucking joke.

Arizona
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Arizona

They need to pick ONE age that makes a person an adult legally, to smoke, drink alcohol, sign contracts, have an abortion, sterilize themselves with gender “treatment” hormones, no longer remain on their parents’ insurance policies, own firearms, vote, etc.

It should be the same age at which they go to war: 18.

But politicians are notorious hypocrites and corrupt, so they won’t ever address it.

Will
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Will

18!!!!

RoyD
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RoyD

After I had been in the Army for over four months I went to give blood at the hospital at Landstuhl, Germany and was told that I would need my parents permission; because I was not quite 18 years old yet. That was something to ponder.

USA
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USA

RoyD, Had you smoked or drank booze by then?

USA
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USA

RoyD, Ah ha, I thought so buddy. Looool.

RoyD
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RoyD

Just read your posts. What was it that you thought?