Gun Control Fail: Canadian Mass Murderer Prohibited Possessor

Gun Control Fail: Canadian Mass Murderer Prohibited Possessor, iStock-613115168
Gun Control Fail: Canadian Mass Murderer Prohibited Possessor, iStock-613115168

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- The restrictions Canada has placed on obtaining, keeping, and using firearms failed entirely in the recent mass murder case in Nova Scotia. I refrain from using the murderer's name.

Canadian restrictions on gun ownership failed. The murderer had plead guilty to an assault charge in 2002. He paid a $50 fine, and served probation for nine months. He then had a lifetime ban on owning firearms.  From nypost.com:

Authorities said Wortman did not have a police record, but information later emerged of at least one run-in with the law. Nova Scotia court records confirm he was ordered to receive counseling for anger management after pleading guilty to assaulting a man in the Halifax area on Oct. 29, 2001.

The guilty plea came on Oct. 7, 2002, as his trial was about to begin. He was placed on probation for nine months, fined $50 and told to stay away from the man, and also prohibited from owning or possessing a weapon, ammunition or explosive substances.

Mass shootings are relatively rare in Canada. The country overhauled its gun control laws after Marc Lepine shot 14 women and himself to death at Montreal’s Ecole Polytechnique college in 1989. Before the weekend rampage, that had been Canada’s worst mass shooting.

Authorities have not released much information about what firearms the murderer used in his killings. We know he took one handgun and magazines from the RCMP officer he killed. The standard-issue handgun for the RCMP is the Smith & Wesson 5946 9mm. It is a stainless steel, double action only version of the S&W model 59 series. The magazine holds 15 rounds of ammunition.  It has been reported the killer used one handgun and several long guns. From the CBC.ca:

Investigators are trying to piece together how Gabriel Wortman was able to obtain the handgun and long guns he used last weekend in a deadly rampage through rural Nova Scotia, including how some made it across the Canada-U.S. border.

Police have traced one of Wortman's weapons back to Canada, but believe the others may have been obtained in the United States, the RCMP revealed on Friday.

It is unlikely the killer used any “military style” semi-automatic rifles, because, if he had, it would have been reported. It would be in Prime Minister Trudeau's interest to have it reported.

In the former Soviet Union, people deduced what was happening by what was *not* said.  I suspect, eventually, we will know precisely what firearms were used; at the moment, it may suit the PM's purpose for that information to be withheld.

PM Trudeau is pushing for a ban on “military style firearms”, although they are seldom used in crime in either the United States or Canada. Handguns have been tightly controlled in Canada since 1935. It is common for those who push for a disarmed population to use an unrelated crime to push for controls which would have had no effect on the crime being used.

Those who wish a disarmed population are never satisfied. They cannot admit their policies were wrong; a failure always results in a call for more restrictions.

The murderer was a fairly successful denturist (someone who makes dentures), and is reported as owning several properties in Nova Scotia. His business had been shut down during the Coronavirus restrictions, for the previous month before the murders.

It has been reported he and his girlfriend argued at a party, that they then returned home; the argument became violent. The denturist tied up or restrained the girlfriend in some way. She escaped and hid in the woods.  Then the killer starts his killing spree.  The exact timing is not yet known.

There has not been any official speculation as to whether business losses from the Covid19 shutdown or the knowledge that the girlfriend escaped, were triggers for the killing spree.  The Royal Canadian Mounted Police continue to investigate.

Strong restrictions on the ownership of firearms have proved ineffective in preventing violence by a person who has assets and is not concerned with losing them. The murderer burned down his own home at the start of the spree. He had plenty of money to accumulate unregistered guns over his life.

Mass killers often do not expect to survive their rampage, although some do.

Reducing the number of legal firearms seems to have little effect on the acquisition of firearms for illegal purposes.

India and China have had strict firearms control in effect for many decades. The Small Arms survey shows tens of millions of illegal firearms in both countries.

Brazil has had strict firearms controls, and a relatively small number of legal guns, yet it has had a very high murder rate with firearms.

In Australia, a jeweler, with similar skills to a denturist, made over a hundred submachine guns for the black market.  Similar submachine guns have been made in Canada, and all over the world.

Home and small shop manufacture place a physical limit on how effective gun control can be.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Rock
Rock
3 months ago

Going to outlay cars, smoking, doctors, hammers, knives, drugs, pot, spouses, dogs, PENCILS (?), etc…. ALL have killed THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS more than that AR used in ONE killing.
Trudeau is a FUCKING LIBTARD, LEFTIST ASSHOLE…

Rock
Rock
3 months ago
Reply to  Rock

How many are killed by ALCOHOL….. DAILY ?

SkippingDog
SkippingDog
3 months ago

Having heavily armed insurrectionists and domestic terrorists storm state capitol buildings is precisely the kind of event that will lead to similar firearms restrictions in the United States. You can’t be a lawful gun owner if you refuse to be law abiding. Armed threats to government officials and law enforcement will never be acceptable.

RoyD
RoyD
3 months ago
Reply to  SkippingDog

SD: You wrote,”You can’t be a lawful gun owner if you refuse to be law abiding.”

You don’t spend much time thinking seriously about life do you. As I have written here before, for twenty some years I carried concealed without the permission of the state. Why did I do that? I did it because I valued my life and the lives of my family members more than the State did. But then you would not do that would you SkippingDog? Life is all about choices.

RoyD
RoyD
3 months ago

Crime in Oklahoma isn’t handled the way it is in Canada:

https://kfor.com/news/local/norman-mom-of-four-finds-catches-burglary-suspect/

Passionate Canadian
Passionate Canadian
3 months ago

The Canadian Prime Minister made this issue political by initially spouting off about the gun ban after the Nova Scotia shooting after a question from the media, rather than leaving the issue alone! No he continued with the politics! Bill C-71 would have done Jack shit even if it was enacted! No law would have, except a good guy with a gun. The shooter didn’t have a PAL nor an RPAL license and I would’t believe a word Bill Blair says! … He knows. It just goes to show who’s filtering the investigation to the media or leading it? One… Read more »

Capn Dad
Capn Dad
3 months ago

Well unfortunately as of today 1 May 2020 it appears that it did work. So called assault rifles are now banned entirely in Canada. So now we see if there is any Canadian mettle. Will Canadians step up to defend their liberty? Will Canadians stand their ground at the cost of their lives? I think not. And it’s a precursor to the United States should the Marxist democrats win in November. The newly elected commies would raise Canada up as an example of what should be banned in the US of A. Will American’s show mettle? At times I think… Read more »

Agostino
Agostino
3 months ago

What weapons he used was my first question since Trudeau reflexively went for military style guns. And I don’t think it should be called a mass shooting since it occurred seriatim at different locations. Someone else called it a ” spree” which sounds more accurate to me.

KDad
KDad
3 months ago

One thing more. If it were not for Canada’s strict gun control, one of his victims might have been armed, as in concealed carry. They might have ended the mayhem before it went any further. “A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun” in it’s truest sense.

jack mac
jack mac
3 months ago
Reply to  KDad

KDad: The possession of firearms for self-defense by the governed in Canada is not allowed by the governing. The ending of mayhem by a private individual use of a firearm is greatly discouraged. All means for self-defense, except for yelling, is greatly depressed; defense of third parties can be considered totally out of the question.

Finnky
Finnky
3 months ago
Reply to  jack mac

– believe that was @KDad’s point.

nrringlee
nrringlee
3 months ago

Well done, Dean. You bring out an important point about media and let me address that first. Many moons ago I spent a year in Gitmo Bay Cuber polishing my Spanglish by listening to Cuban radio and TV. Listening and reading between the lines was key to figuring out what was really going on on the other side of the fence line. This is true in our media today. Remember one thing.Our current crop of newsreaders are products of critical theory mills who come to their posts front loaded with an agenda. You see it every day when you read… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
3 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

@ring, All true, and there is more: YES, ABC News executive producer IAN CAMERON is married to SUSAN RICE, Obama’s former National Security Adviser. YES, CBS President DAVID RHODES is the brother of BEN RHODES, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications. YES, ABC News correspondent CLAIRE SHIPMAN is married to JAY CARNEY, former Obama White House Press Secretary YES, ABC News and Univision reporter MATTHEW JAFFE is married to KATIE HOGAN, Obama’s former Deputy Press Secretary . YES, ABC President BEN SHERWOOD is the brother of Elizabeth Sherwood, Obama’s former Special Adviser. YES, CNN President VIRGINIA MOSELEY is… Read more »

Camotim
Camotim
3 months ago

Yep, folks, gun control sure does work.

SkippingDog
SkippingDog
3 months ago
Reply to  Camotim

What is Canada’s homicide rate compared to the U.S.?

Vince
Vince
3 months ago

I say we support Canada in banning and seizing all firearms. When totally disarmed, we INVADE. There are only 30 million Canadians opposed to our 330 million and they have an ample supply of young fertile females. Let’s test their stupidity.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
3 months ago
Reply to  Vince

@Vince, That is good asymmetrical warfare thinking!

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
3 months ago

You can’t legislate morality! The LORD HIMSELF tells us to be armed. Our constitution writes that into law. When I was a kid, one could buy a Thompson smg at the hardware store. No papers, no nic. There were no mass murders save gangsters and the like who actually died of natural causes — natural to their line of work. MOST of our population actually revered the LORD. Kruchev gave a speech at the united nations in which he described exactly how he would destroy the U.S. without firing a shot. The rest is history. The truth, the point is… Read more »

nrringlee
nrringlee
3 months ago

Spot on, brother.

Finnky
Finnky
3 months ago

@DB – When I was a kid, my parents wouldn’t have let me have a BB-gun. Which went a long way to making me the lousy shot I am today, and as been explained before – inspired a deep fascination with firearms. Kids given access and training at an appropriate age (very young) tend to not be fascinated by guns and be extremely responsible with them as well. Those kids also become crack shots as evidenced by an 8 year old I saw shooting her 22LR-AR variant – damn that kid could shoot!, and exhibited incredible care and responsibility. Marked… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
3 months ago

Have read elsewhere that nearly half of the victims were killed through the rampage killer’s use of fire. Far as I’m concerned that proves that firearms were not central to the crime spree. Had he had no firearms, not even the one he took from RCMP, it likely would not have impacted the number of victims. Not at all hard to argue that had victims been armed, he could well have been stopped sooner. Biggest blame should fall squarely upon Trudeau. His people, appointed by and reporting to him – failed to put out word to the public. Murderer was… Read more »

nrringlee
nrringlee
3 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

Facts don’t matter to the New Left goons who write the copy. You bring up very valid points. Only we can carry that message to a public crying out for objective reporting.

Grigori
Grigori
3 months ago

Isn’t it time that Canada had a serious discussion about commonsense gun control?

(sarcasm)

Finnky
Finnky
3 months ago
Reply to  Grigori

– No sarcasm needed. They should have serious and honest discussion about gun control. With honest examination of the data, the only sensible solution would be to roll back (at least) the majority of their gun control.

Oh – forgetting the accuracy of Mark Twain’s statement: “Common sense isn’t”.

RoyD
RoyD
3 months ago

In regards to those who wish to impose “gun control” on non-crimminals, the “Leftists” of the world have never been known for their lack of hubris.

nrringlee
nrringlee
3 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

Correct. Leftist elites will always have more than ample firepower to defend their mansions, wineries, dachas and lake houses. They see no need to defend ours because we are really just excess population that escaped the abortionist.

RoyD
RoyD
3 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

Or, they consider us to be “Eloi.”

Will
Will
3 months ago

That lead Mountie in the picture is named Dudley Do-Right! If these Canadian Mounties would end their treasonous infringements on law-abiding Canadians rights their firearm related crimes would plummet. Leave the good people of Canada alone to hunt and protect their family’s!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
3 months ago
Reply to  Will

, Unfortunately, the people do not have Rights. Sovereignty is in the government. When Great Britain let the colony of Canada go, sovereignty went to the government. The people are still subjects.
In America, the colonies seized sovereignty from the king, and gave it to the people, through the Constitution.

Will
Will
3 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

@WB,thanks for your comment. As usual,you educated me on a point I was unaware of previous. I have been buying lots of RCM silver Maple Leaf coins and silver bars lately because of their superior .9999 silver purity content. That’s stopping right now! I will only purchase US American Eagles and APMEX or Engelhard bars. The people of Canada need to rise up and end this tyranny. I always put Gods law over mans law esp.when it comes to the basic human right of self defense.