‘Fudd for Chipman’ Democrat Ploy to Manipulate Low-Information Gun Owners

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This is the guy who will “unite” gun owners? In which reality?(NSSF)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Guest view: David Chipman can unite us on Second Amendment issues,” an August 5 testimonial appearing in, among other outlets, the Montana Standard, declares. The author is Dave Stalling, a self-described “past president of the Montana Wildlife Federation, … gun owner, former Force Recon Marine and avid hunter who lives in Missoula.”

The only surprise is that such a piece hasn’t appeared earlier. Gun owners have long been subjected to sudden appearances of Democrat citizen disarmament enablers trying to pass themselves off as fellow “tribe” members when there is a political goal to be attained. In the last presidential election, two groups tried to make their mark, “Sportsmen and Sportswomen for Biden — a coalition of more than 50 prominent hunters and anglers from across the country, who have come together to endorse Joe Biden for President of the United States,” and the Giffords’-bankrolled Gun Owners for Safety.

Yeah, they’re Fudds for Biden. If you’re inclined to take offense at that word, hold on a second: It’s not a pejorative for all hunters and sport shooters – just the ones who throw their fellow gun owners under the bus and support citizen disarmament edicts that don’t impact their hobbies. But a Fudd is what Stalling proves himself to be, particularly when he accuses Donald Trump Jr. of lying when he says Montana Sen. Jon Tester is not “staunchly pro-Second Amendment.” He’s not.

Tester’s a prime example of a self-serving opportunist who recognized that he had to vote “pro-gun” in order to be elected in that state, and was allowed to get away with it by Democrat Party leadership because it served their purposes to have him advance the rest of the agenda. Revealingly, Tester showed his true nature when he voted to keep Post Offices “gun-free zones.” The last straw for NRA was Tester’s Supreme Court confirmation votes (for Kagan and Sotomayor, against Gorsuch and Kavanaugh) when they downgraded his one-time “A” to a “D.”

“As a gun owner, former ATF special agent, and internationally recognized gun safety expert, David Chipman is hardly ‘anti-Second Amendment,’” Stalling continues. “As a Montana citizen, gun owner, former Force Recon Marine, and hunter, I fully support Chipman’s nomination, and urge my fellow Montanans to do the same.”

“Hardly”? And “recognized” by who? As for being a gun owner, so is Dianne Feinstein – who was reported to have a concealed carry permit that you or I couldn’t get to save our lives –literally. What does that prove? With all the evidence of his personal penchant for infringements that’s been amassed to the contrary (just enter the search term “Chipman” in the AmmoLand search bar), you wonder what more the guy has to do.

As for Stalling being a Montana citizen, that doesn’t qualify the correctness of his opinions. Mentioning he is a “former Force Recon Marine” to make himself appear authoritative on the Second Amendment is a logical fallacy, equivalent to pediatricians presuming their medical degrees confer all the credentialing they need in order to prescribe that gun owners lock up their safety.  And as every real personal arms advocate knows, it ain’t about duck hunting.

The curious thing about his being past president of the Montana Wildlife Federation: They’re putting a lot of energy into confirming  Tracy Stone-Manning to lead the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Campaigning for someone who was closely involved with eco-terrorist tree spikers might make the whole MSF nominee supporting process suspect.

That certainly raises a different flag than the one Stalling’s waving. Then again, his assertions bring nothing to mind so much as Sir Wilfrid’s cross-examination of Frau Helm in the classic movie Witness for the Prosecution (if you haven’t seen it, go ahead and take two minutes and watch it).

That he fools no one who understands the issue is not the point. Stalling’s not trying to persuade or change the minds of anyone who knows what they’re talking about on the Second Amendment. What he’s doing is following a strategy similar to the efforts of a new organization passing itself off as a “reasonable” alternative to more confrontational gun-grabbers, 97percent.org. And they’re counting on “40% of the 2020 spike in new gun owners were women, and 90% of gun owners do not view guns as part of their identity.”

In other words, take the new gun owners who don’t understand the issue and apathetic, uninvolved gun owners who haven’t been paying attention, and make sure they stay low-information and don’t get spooked by the truth. It’s a similar tactic to characterizing disarmament edicts as “commonsense gun safety.” Who could be against that?

It’s up to gun owners who believe in the Second Amendment to use our influence to counter the deception. There’s a lot of new gun owners out there and it would be both a shame and a waste to not do what we can to show them where they’re being misdirected, and the tricks the snake oil salesmen employ to get them to swallow political poison.


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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ras52

David, as a gun owner, shooter, and hunter, I will say you are so right about Stalling. He should be embarrassed for supporting Chipman!

ras52

Tex, I hear you brother!

Gregory Peter DuPont

” Former Force Recon Marine’… I was reminded of a ” Former Navy Seal, missing an eye and currently holding public office” that is happy to remove the due process of those who own or seek to own/ bear arms….not accusing him of specific Judas Iscariot behavior but I do take note of the jingling of the silver in their pockets.

JSNMGC

Yes – Dan Crenshaw, TAPS Act
Tom Cotton – Red flag laws, Fix NICS

And all the rest:

  • Richard Blumenthal
  • Pete Buttigieg
  • Cal Cunningham
  • Tammy Duckworth
  • Lindsey Graham
  • John Kerry
  • Mitch McConnell
  • Bryant “Corky” Messner
  • Gary Peters               
  • Jack Reed

And the guy who would never shut up about his “service” – John McCain

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Russn8r

Add
Joni Ernst (Army)
Jim Imhofe (Army)
Both voted to confirm gun grabber Merrick Garland as Attorney General.

JSNMGC

There are dozens more – I should have made that clear.

The majority of U.S. legislators who previously worked in the military are anti 2nd Amendment and have an authoritarian streak.

Russn8r

Hard to keep up with all the treason and betrayal from within our own command post.

APG member

Command post??? LOL!

Russn8r

APG member??? LOL!

It’s a metaphor, you snippy little anklebiter. Look up the word, then try to apply your low-IQ to the ISSUE for a change.

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Russn8r

Good projection there, TEX! How many suck puppets are you running now? LoL!

Russn8r

did you notice it’s (sic) real cleaver (sic) comeback to you? Let’s gets (sic) a couple nets and run this punk down!” (Duh HUH!)
-TEX/FORD Will/Will et ilk, low-IQ sock puppet who deletes his embarrassing thug-posts and RUNS AWAY like a hyena with a false penis

APG member

A metaphor for your egotistical delusions. Reality check: Ammoland is a firearms news site, and you are a sad excuse for a commenter. Zuckerberg has turned you into a dopamine JUNKIE! LOL!

Russn8r

More cowardly, low-IQ projection-deflection by APG. Can’t address issues, go to ad hominem anklebiting.

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macdog

Richard Blumenthal – Served, not in Viet Nam
Pete Buttigieg – sucked as mayor of south bend indiana; but he did attend harvard
Cal Cunningham
Tammy Duckworth
Lindsey Graham – amnesty grahamnesty
John Kerry- enough said threw his medals over the fence backed by lying ted kennedy
Mitch McConnell enough said, totally feckless
Bryant “Corky” Messner stay in NH don’t come back to colorado
Gary Peters failed state of michigan
Jack Reed retire

And the guy who would never shut up about his “service” – John McCain ? Liked to cross over the aisle

mlhtd51

When I see Chipman, I SEE WACO TEXAS. Enough Said.

Russn8r

Fed LEs only exist to entrap,indict,prosecute,convict,&send law-abiding citizens to prison!”
-TEX

But it’s ok if YOU lie & hide assets so you can harm civilians in ways not covered by qualified immunity.

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Neanderthal75

Why don’t you and the other five year olds take your freaking binkies, your whining, and your playground horse crap and go to another forum where you can crap it up like you are here! Stop being a punk!

JSNMGC

He made a logical point on “TEX’s” double standards.

Why don’t you make a point?

Are all comments “whining,” or only those pointing-out the bad behavior of state, county, and town/city enforcers?

JSNMGC

TEX – 8/16/21:

“He did make a point! Why don’t you and your idiot sidekick go some place else with you five year nonsense and annoy someone else! Why don’t you and your idiot sidekick stop being punks?”

Response to “TEX”(Will, et al.):

That wasn’t a point – he (like you) is trying to enforce group think. If you don’t agree with a point being made, state your case.

Russn8r

“Why don’t you & your idiot sidekick go some place else with you (sic) 5 year (sic) nonsense and annoy someone else! Why don’t you stop being punks?”
-TEX, leader of the room-temp-IQ ex-enforcer posse, too dumb to rationally address issues, hid his assets so he could commit crimes not shielded by qualified immunity, runs at least 2 verified sock puppet accounts on AL, deletes embarrassing thug-posts & RUNS AWAY like a hyena with a false penis.

Who’s the punk, TEX? You are.

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Russn8r

That’s a lot of projection right there, Neanderthal.

Stop whining, punk!

alzada

Neanderthals were an honorable race of people !!!

Russn8r

70% of Neanderthal75’s posts could be written by chimps. “Cheers from a tar pit in Wyoming!”

Tionico

His meaning is clear enough to me.. he is saying the very ones who will lie steal entrap twist rules, invent evidence to “convict” their targetted victims… as THEY lie cheat steal twist the rules, etc, and can literally get off with murder (Waco, Ruby Ridge) and even when caught hands in cookie jar will instantly cite their status of “qualified immunity” and skate. Like Brer Rabbit after he got himself flung into dat briar patch.. skipping and laughing an hollerin “boan an’ bred in de Brahr Patch”. Look up the Reese or Reece case out of New Mexico perhaps… Read more »

Russn8r

I remember the Reese family. Donated to them. Tragic. Did local enforcers assist their fed “partners” in that one?

Russn8r

Stop lying, Schart. Your thug pals oppressed the whole Reese family, denied due process etc. Pleading no contest is not an admission of guilt when you’re being tortured by the state.

https://waronguns.blogspot.com/search?q=reese

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Russn8r

Read the blog, government man.

alzada

Felony if you lie to L,E,O, but they can lie to you all day !!

Tionico

you just nailed the ROOT of the problem with BATF. They are NOT Law Enforcement. They were originally founded to collect TAXES on firearms and pwder. Just like they were supposed to do with alcohol and tobacco. BATF means somthing, no? Only CONGRESS can enact laws, but these cretins seem to think that is their main calling in life.. make up, change, modify, invent, all manner of “rules” they then get to enforce as THEY and they only see fit. They’ve not followed therules of their charter for at least two generatioins. The usurp the authority and responsibility of Congress,… Read more »

macdog

ooops; where is my side arm

Tank

Incrementalism (death by a thousand cuts) is the method dogma & always a metastasizing gain in function disease tyrants use & employ to erode & decay the enemy to achieve the goal.
Stupefying ignorance

Henry Bowman

Fudds are our worst enemy; they pretend to be part of the “tribe” when in fact they are NOT and they work to undermine our Rights with what they call “reasonable” restrictions/infringements.

No infringement is ‘reasonable’; all gun laws are infringements and are therefore unreasonable.

alzada

What is a “FUDD” ???

Russn8r

Fudd

noun (not acronym)

1) Like Elmer: Slow, happily clueless.

2) Only owns firearms used for “legitimate sporting purposes”.

3) Scorns owners of other types of firearms, helps ban them.

4) Knows zip about history or the Constitution. Thinks 2A was adopted so he can own pump & bolt-action firearms.

5) Parrots anti-gun slogans like “the framers never imagined automatic guns with 100-round magazines”. Fails to note the framers didn’t have bolt or pump actions in 1792 either.

6) Not worried about firearm registration. Thinks “it can’t happen here”.

See also: useful idiot, cuck

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Henry Bowman

Well said!

Russn8r

Thanks. Can’t take all the cred. I tuned up an entry on urban dictionary dot com.

Henry Bowman

Definition as follows:

Russn8r

Nice! Keeper.

Edd3434

For all this bs anti gun crap we deal with I have started a petition to file a lawsuit to overturn the 1989 assault weapons import ban please share this and make sure it gets to groups like the Goa or Fpc who do an awesome job at fighting for our rights https://www.change.org/p/firearms-policy-coalition-file-a-lawsuit-to-challenge-the-1989-assault-weapons-import-ban?redirect=false

Russn8r

Yep, another gift of the globalist traitor Bushes.

Wass

Even “Senator Gun Control” himself, Chuck Schumer, says, he supports the Second Amendment. For the uninitiated, it’s called paying lip service.

macdog

Lip service, kind of looks like what chipman is posing for.

gregs

he is another “person” that only calls for common sense restrictions on the Second Amendment. exactly how many more restrictions would be enough for people like the dave’s, stalling and chipman? we are only allowed by our government to purchase semi-automatic firearms, except rarely and with great effort and expense automatic firearms, and they want to restrict our right to purchase and bear those. seems like only a total ban and confiscation would appease these righteous persons. it is immoral to tell another person what they can do, as long as it does not violate another’s rights. it is immoral… Read more »

Russn8r

“people are sick of your bitching & whining. you sound like my mother-in-law.” -gregs.

Stop whining, gregs. You sound like your mother-in-law.

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JSNMGC

Activist Marines (such as Stalling) – too bad they are activists to push further infringements on Americans’ firearm rights. USMC0351Grunt, when are you going to GOYAA and organize veterans to form a group opposing Chipman’s appointment and write a letter to Tester (the ranking member of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee)? Tester (his staff) responded to me with a letter, but he just said he has met with Chipman and asked him tough questions about his views on protecting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners and that he will continue to review Chipman’s record. He will be influenced by… Read more »

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Russn8r

Only veterans are brave enough to save this country.”
BS on that.

JSNMGC

Only repeating what I’ve seen written hear many times in many ways. They talk a lot.

Russn8r

Suggested edit: If only veterans were brave enough to save THIS country instead of 3rd-world S-holes.

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Russn8r

Crybabies are downvoting…

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gregs

no, i believe people are just sick of your bitching and whining. you sound like my mother-in-law.

JSNMGC

Back to the issue at hand – Chipman.

USMC0351Grunt has made numerous comments about how veterans are the answer, veterans have courage (and non-veterans don’t), and how everyone needs to get off their apathetic assess and do something.

Other veterans on this site have made similar comments.

If you use your search engine and look for groups of veterans who have organized in opposition to Chipman and who have sent an open letter to Tester (the ranking member of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee), you will find nothing.

I’d say USMC0351Grunt has done quite a bit of bitching and whining.

JSNMGC

TEX – 8/16/21
 
“But gregs wasn’t talking to you or about USMC. He was talking about your idiot sidekick.”

Response to “TEX”(Will, et al.):

There you go with that double standard. I wasn’t addressing you either, but you responded.

So, in your mind, is it ok to respond to someone who isn’t addressing you, or not?

Which is it?

JSNMGC

Frustrating, isn’t it, “TEX”(Will, et al.)?

When you can’t express yourself logically today, all you can do is downvote.

In the good old days, you would arrest the person who logically challenged you.

JSNMGC

TEX – 8/16/21:

“No Rev,not frustrating me at all. As long as you learn from your mistakes that’s what is really important.You always whine about downvoting too and that’s really amusing because I can see in real time how much you and your idiot sidekick do it!”

Response to “TEX”(Will, et al.):

So, in your mind, is it ok to respond to someone who isn’t addressing you, or not?

JSNMGC

TEX – 8/16/21:

“Rev,I have made my position clear on that issue many times. Another thing you can’t seem to remember is just because you continually ask people stupid questions doesn’t mean they are obligated to respond to you. It’s not running away like you and your idiot sidekick like to say either. I just learned a long time ago not to waste my time arguing with an idiot!”

Response to “TEX”(Will, et al.):

All I see is a double standard.

You respond to posts not addressed to you and you criticize other people for doing the same thing.

Russn8r

Ad hominem projection by Gregsie poo, crybaby whose IQ is too low to address issues, maybe another TEX/FORD Will/Will low-IQ ex-enforcer sock puppet.

How many times did you upvote yourself with sock puppets, gregs?

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Arizona

We are in a cold civil war for the nation. 98% of elected reps and senators are treasonous backstabbing hypocrites who don’t value the Constitution, and many virulently oppose it. Many others don’t even know it, or the BOR.

We would be best removing all of them, all 535, and starting from scratch with business owners willing to serve for one term only.

The rate rights are being trampled, this goes hot in 1-3 years, way before we can even begin to remove treacherous government employees…

StLPro2A

With nary a shot fired, politicians are accomplishing what armies feared to attempt and always failed . Play by the enemies’ rules, lose by the enemies’ rules.

nrringlee

Thou shall not bear false witness. Leftists exempt.

Russn8r

Lying is what the socialist scum do best!”
-TEX/FORD Will/Will et ilk

It’s also what you do best, TEX, running sock puppets, hiding your assets so you can harm civilians in ways not even covered by qualified immunity, pretending conservative, licking up to Roland T Gunner (your sock puppet?) who posts vile agent provocatuer advice to shoot cops in the head.

Russn8r

Cops and prosecutors exempt too.

RJL

Do not Listen to these Nazis using the Nazi play book. These people are the Anti-Constitutionalists, who are Anti-American, and are the Enemies of the United States from within. This crowd needs to be Crushed, No exceptions.
Especially Mr. Shitman…

Montana454Casull

David Stalling is a typical liberal Missoula POS and his views do not align with Montana values . Missoula and the idiots that live there should be annexed to Washington state as the same liberal trash and values align more closely with those losers . Missoula liberals try to push thier anti American garbage all the time but the courts here in Montana have struck most of it down . The idiots need to take fat lying asshole Testor and douche bag Stalling and move to Seattle or Portland they would fit in there better with the rest of the… Read more »

Tionico

news flash.. Missoula is only 35 miles east of IDAHO, not Washington. From Missoula it is a fairly long drive over Lolo and down the Clearwater to Clarkston Washington. HOW long have you lived in Montana?

Neanderthal75

I used to love visiting Clarkston and Troy back when I was a kid during hunting season! The Blue Mountains are some of the most beautiful on the planet! They can be very hard hunting too if I recollect; the shale in some areas is vicious….. I know from personal experience.

What a pity they are now controlled by the morons of the Democratic People’s Republic of Olympia!

Tank

The narrative shifts suddenly (seemingly out of nowhere) BOR & ROL are eroding being systematically eviscerated w/ unintelligible & nonsensical dialogue. 4/5GW works like like.
We are living it.
Stupefying ignorance

American Cynic

I don’t need to remind anyone here that the Republican Party is chock full of RINOs, who pay lips service Republican and Conservative issues, but don’t actually believe in any what they said to get elected. I love Donald Trump, God Bless his soul, but we need to support ourselves before we can support anyone else. What good is being a Trump supporter without first electing representatives that will be true to us? HOW DO WE DO THAT, UNCLE CYNIC? Well, I’ll tell you how. For starters, STOP ELECTING RINOs!! Stand up to your local GOP leadership and demand to… Read more »

Stag

Trump is one of the biggest Butters/Fudds. I don’t know why people still refuse to see this.

Russn8r

I see it and I was a donor-volunteer. I don’t know why the little people still think he’s their pal after he crapped on the unarmed trespassers & Assange (without Julian he would never have been pres), left them to die in prison, pardoning bank robbers, drug dealers, wealthy toadies, rappers & celebs instead.

Stag

Yes, sir. I know you see it. I voted for Trump the first time around in hopes he would, at the very least, hold the line when it comes to our rights. Then he straight up betrays us by enacting more arms control in his first two years than the previous two administrations combined. As if the bumpstock ban and “FixNICS” wasn’t enough, he goes on to call for red flag laws, banning body armor, banning suppressors, supporting the TAPS Act, and saying he would be “open to another assault weapons ban”. It just boggles the mind how people act… Read more »

Russn8r

Apparently AmmoLand’s approval filter doesn’t like “traitor”, “treason” or “enemy”. Hmmm.

Well said. As to the enemy within, I put it in slightly different metaphor for the same idea. Knute then offered a great quote:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.”
-Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Russn8r

Well said. Agreed.

As to the enemy within, I used a slightly different metaphor. Knute then offered a great Cicero quote which AmmoLand’s “Awaiting for approval” filter doesn’t like. I circumvented it here by misspelling 3 words:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive trea$0n from within. An en3my at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the tra1t0r moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.”
-Marcus Tullius Cicero

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JSNMGC

You argued against yourself in the same post.

Trump bragged that he was better at gun control than Obama and chastised other legislators for being afraid of the NRA:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/president-trump-calls-comprehensive-gun-bill

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Ram

Too often RINOs get elected and not recognized until a critical vote. Which is the point of this column. Military experience is admirable, but the military does not educate beyond the job assignment. There are no symposiums on the constitution (that soldiers defend), the bill of rights (that soldiers don’t have), or even original intent (almost nullified by “case law”). Many people enter, and successfully navigate a military career, without becoming patriotic or understanding the concept. Look at all the people who have the same college degrees as a Ben Shapiro. What makes Ben stand out from the idiots, is… Read more »

nobodyuknow

Please drop Chipman and Stalling in the middle of Afghanistan with big signs on their backs saying “I Hate Muslims”. I will be glad to contribute to the expense of the transportation.

Stag

Butters and Fudds proving once again why they’re a cancer to the gun community.

Russn8r

I know what Fudd is. What are Butters? South Park?

Finnky

Buters are those who say BUT – As in “I support the second amendment, BUT!”
Many seem to believe that if they profess support, they can violate people’s rights to any degree and we’ll take it with a smile.

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JSNMGC

They support the 2nd Amendment, BUT

Basically, most Republican U.S. legislators.

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nobodyuknow

JSNMGC . . . ALL Communist Democraps and most Republicans.

Stag

Finnky and JSNMGC nailed it. There are LOTS of butters and fudds in the gun community. They’re always saying how much they “support the 2nd Amendment BUT…” and then proceed to tell you what arms control they think should be enforced and/or enacted like background checks, high capacity magazine bans, full auto bans, etc…

Russn8r

But-Fudders!

nobodyuknow

Russn8r . . . . Cute! I love it!

Roland T. Gunner

Ah, a breath of fresh air. Glad you are back David.

gearjammer

Don’t forget that Missoula is the San Francisco of Montana, that explains a lot !!!

JSNMGC

TEX – 8/16/21:

“Neanderthal175,like another member Jaque said two days ago these two punks time left on AMMOLAND is about over.”

Response to “TEX”(Will, et al.):

Why?

Russn8r

I’m still waiting for TEX’s room-temp-IQ thug-posse to do me a favor and ban me.

Russn8r

“Jaque will do that! Can you read?”
-TEX/FORD Will/Will et ilk

Sure thing Jaqueoff (one of your suck puppets).

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Montana454Casull

These clowns try to take our guns and the clowns at ammoland censor my comment . Guess the second amendment and free speech are both a thing of the past in today’s politically correct society . Nice try but you guys at ammo land can’t promote one right while censoring another. You are no better than Chipman , Stalling or Testor !

Rob

Sounds like you stumbled onto a circus; the least you can do is feed the elephants.

Russn8r

censoring…You AmmoLand clowns are no better than Chipman, Stalling or Testor!”
-MT454Casull, whiner

They’re doing the best they can, a-hole. You don’t like it, split.

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Tionico

do you mean the post below, posted about an hour vefore this rant? Coe ONNNN.. it takes a bit of time to get things cleared somethines. I’ve NEVER had a post on here that was “censored”, and I’ve been on here for several years. Sometimgs I guess some keywords I happen to use might get it shoved aside for a real human to read, then it has always been cleared and published. This one only took an yhour for you to get it cleared and published. Patience is a virtue….. try finding some.

Russn8r

Stalling, aka USMCGrunt? OldTrailDog?

The traitor, agent provocateur, cuck, crook, coward or fool in our own command post is far more destructive than the open enemy outside the wire.

BTW, as you know, Tester kept his phony NRA A rating for many years after voting for Sotomayor & Kagan, campaigning for Obama, etc.

Knute

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

Russn8r

That’s a keeper. I’ve been plodding away at Cicero, but haven’t seen that. Many thanks.

Knute

De nada. I’m happy it made it through the filter. I’ve been waiting on one for a week now. Perhaps I’ve been a bit hasty in thinking the censors now have ammoland too. Perhaps now that Dave is no longer available, it just takes weeks to go through the censorbot’s filter.
We shall see.

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Russn8r

I don’t think they’re censoring your comments intentionally. Hell, idiot ex-cops & agents provocateur drop F bombs and urge people to shoot cops in the head, and those comments get right through. I wonder if the red highlight caught the computer’s eye. I suspect they do the best they can with limited staff. I’ve been plodding through American Revolutionary sermons the last few years off and on. Enjoy this if it gets through: “We may very safely assert these two things in general, without undermining government: One is, that no civil rulers are to be obeyed when they enjoin things… Read more »

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Knute

I think you’re correct. The comment I’d been waiting a week for was finally approved. It had no links, but it was politically incorrect.
I think that without Dave, maybe now only Mondays are available to check the comments manually. It sure would be nice if there was a filter service that wouldn’t select violent comments as fine but any truth as suspect, but I think we all know about the biases of the tech world. It LOVES violence… so long as the targets are the ones it dislikes!

Last edited 1 year ago by Knute
Russn8r

BTW, I was able to repost your Cicero quote above by misspelling tra1t0r, trea$0n & en3my. Why the filter doesn’t like those words is a mystery.

Knute

Perhaps because whoever programmed the censorbots is ALL of those?? 🙂

Knute

And thx for the reading! This phrase seems esp. appropriate in these days of the authorities destroying everything they touch:
“no government is to be submitted to at the expense of… the common good and safety of society”
That view makes “will not comply” a duty of everyone. Like the Rare Breed trigger company’s refusal to comply with the ATF. 🙂

alzada

Well said !!

Knute

It sure was. I wish I’d been the one to say it so well, but it was from the Pax Romana era, before my 50 times great-grandfather was born! The year doesn’t matter, because all Empires die the same way, of their own internal contradictions and corruption. From Babylon to Persia to Greece to Rome, it’s always the same. Pax America is no different than Pax Romana. Always the corrupt leaders fiddle while the empire burns to the ground. Pax American will perish the same way. My hope(and prediction… 🙂 ) is that a new Country will be born from… Read more »

Knute

It sure was. I wish I’d been the one to say it so well, but it was from the Pax Romana era, before my 50 times great-grandfather was born!

Knute

I finally got one through the censorbots! It appears that the word “pax” must not go together with the word “america” if one wishes to avoid the bots unwanted attentions.

Russn8r

Why moderate that? Maybe AmmoLand could look into who programmed the filter they’re using. I suspect it’s not their filter though. Probably comes with the comment vehicle.

Russn8r

Sorry to hear it. Sure about google? I’m seeing WordPress, a 501c3. Does WordPress rely on google or google software? I’d be surprised if AmmoLand bares its neck to google as Parler did.

Knute

Maybe you can turn sideways to overamp their vision monitors? -)
https://youtu.be/DtCiqKRnQL0?t=130

Knute

That is typical of the comments that I regularly have caught in the filter. My thinking parallels your own. That ammoland has just hired a tech company to do the moderating, and they, like almost all tech companies, dislike truth and freedom and show it at every opportunity.
None of this string of comments would post until I removed the words Pax Americana. If it gets caught in the filter again, that will be confirmation.
If only ammoland would hire a moderator worthy of the title. If only Dave were here……. 🙁

Knute

A quote from Cicero, circa 25 BC comes to mind here…. but it has been disallowed…. like almost everything else here is now.