U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- At about 2:30 pm on Tuesday, August 31, 2021 near 1808 Lodi Street in Syracuse New York, a 29-year-old man threatened a crowd of people with a 9mm handgun. When they did not comply, he started firing into the group. From localsyr.com:
SYRACUSE, N.Y. (WSYR-TV) — Demetrius Jackson, the man killed in the Lodi Street shooting on Tuesday, was in possession of a loaded 9mm handgun while outside of 1808 Lodi Street, District Attorney William Fitzpatrick said.
Jackson threatened multiple people at the location and fired the loaded handgun in the direction of those people, officials said.
Another man, who was on scene and in possession of a 9mm handgun returned fire striking and killing Jackson, Fitzpatrick said. According to Fitzpatrick, this man has a valid pistol permit for the 9mm handgun.
The District Attorney said in a statement that based on preliminary investigation, it appears the man who shot Jackson saved the lives of several individuals.
The man who stopped the attack by shooting Demetrius Jackson is reported to be the property manager, Richard Morose. He is 39 years old. It is not easy to shoot back accurately while being fired upon. From syracuse.com:
Syracuse, NY — A Syracuse property manager has been identified as the person who shot and killed a 28-year-old man the Tuesday after the man allegedly fired a gun of his own at multiple people.
The property manager, Richard Morose, was at 1808 Lodi St. when he pulled a legally possessed 9mm handgun and killed Demetris Jackson, the Onondaga County District Attorney’s Office said Thursday in a news release.
Morose shot Demetrius in the head. Both combatants are reported as using 9mm handguns. We do not know what the distance was. It appears Demetrius did not fire any more shots at the multiple threatened individuals, once he was hit.
It has been reported Demetrius did not live at the Lodi address. The incident is under investigation.
This is not a case of an armed Samaritan, because Richard Morose was one of those being attacked. It remains to be seen if this incident will be included in the FBI database of mass shootings stopped by armed citizens.
Syracuse.com is reporting Morose and others have been receiving threats and property damage.
During the ongoing investigation, Morose and others at the scene have received threats and “suffered property damage in what appears to be retaliation,” the release added.
There is often more to the story. There may be a domestic connection or criminal affiliations. The ongoing investigation should determine if those connections exist.
It is much easier to obtain a permit to carry a pistol in upstate New York than it is in New York City. It may become easier in New York City when the case concerning carry outside the home is decided by the United States Supreme Court next year. Oral arguments for the New York Rifle & Pistol Association case are scheduled for early November of 2021.
There may be situations in which the defense of self and others is more justified than when an armed attacker is firing at a group of people, but they are not many. If the situation is found to be as initially described, this is a clear example as one of the many cases where armed defenders saved lives.
About Dean Weingarten:
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30-year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
I suspect we wi see more of this type of incident & situation. As people become increasingly frustrated with the corruption & crime they will empower themselves w/ 2nd A & defend themselves & other’s. This is what the founding father’s already knew about tyrants & society at large. The more people that fully awake to who’s behind the actual Deep State & tyranny the better off humanity at large will be.
If we don’t all hang together surely we will be hung together.
Well….”DAMN THE BAD LUCK”… for the Perp…..
not his “bad luck” but his just reward. It willbe interesting to learn the backstory.. how did this situiton come about at this time and place?
Guy saves multiple lives.
Guy gets threatened & his property damaged for doing so.
No surprise really, when the shooter was clearly a part of the “culture” which refuses to recognise 90% of its problems are of its own making.
It seems that there are more of these events happening and will continue till some enforcement of real laws are enforced.
When good guy with a gun shoots bad guy with a gun in the head, bad guy usually looses interest in shooting innocent people. Just pondering.
This could have easily gone the other way. NY has implemented nearly every measure it can to prevent citizens from being able to stop madmen like these. MDA/Everytown/Bloomberg will either try to sweep this news under the carpet or state “we don’t want citizens carrying guns” in spite of the success of the responsible gun owner.
You’re thinking New York City. New York State outside the city is relatively reasonable. Still “may issue” but most counties are reasonable and will issue carry licenses.
“My chains aren’t so heavy.”
Wyoming County, NY had the highest percent of Trump voters of all NY state counties. Here’s is the process for getting a carry permit in that county:
https://www.wyomingco.net/DocumentCenter/View/189/How-to-apply-for-a-Wyoming-County-Pistol-permit-PDF?bidId=
Four character references and the head county enforcer gets to decide if you can carry a firearm.
Training course required (is the Sheriff’s buddy in the “training” business?).
Normal processing time is 3 to 6 months – but the Sheriff can take just as long as he wants.
Pick up that can, citizen.
likely someone who received an eviction notice, there has been a few in florida too. expect more all over ,the property owner is rich why should I have to make them richer bs
???the property owner is just taking the rent payment give to the mortgage banker…whose REALLY owns the property…. Does the government eviction freeze apply to the OWNER, too? Can he stop payments to the bank?
WTF?
You are part of that 90% Mike was referring to.
go and re-read his comment. You complelty missed his Sarc Font.
I encourage you to read more history about how totalitiarians come into power. Class warfare is one of the main tools they use. They claim the “have nots” suffer because of the “haves.” They promise to redistribute the wealth of the “haves” to the “have nots.”
Their ideology results in everyone (other than a handful of government tyrants) being “have nots.”
The three commies hate capitalism and are cheering for totalitiarianism.
the prefect description for marxst socialism. It “works” every time. There are far too foften just enough nitwits that buy the line that “socialism really works, its just that no one has ever done it right before.. give us this one more chance……. and we’ll show you how wonderful it is.