New York: New Bill Introduces Ten Day Waiting Period To Buy Firearms

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ALBANY, NY-(Ammoland.com)- A new bill would introduce a mandatory ten-day waiting period for firearms purchases in New York State.

Assembly Bill A449 would establish a ten-day “cooling off” period before a federally licensed dealer could transfer a firearm after a transferee completes a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) 4473 Form and passes a background check through the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).

The new law would apply to handguns, shotguns, and rifles alike. This requirement also applies to firearms that an owner takes to a gunsmith for repairs.

The bill was introduced by Assemblymember Amy Paulin (D-Scarsdale). Ms. Paulin is a staunch anti-gun member of the New York Assembly and has introduced other anti-gun bills in the past, such as New York’s Extreme Risk Protection Order Act. She was joined by co-sponsors Jeffrey Dinowitz, Sandy Galef, Inez E. Dickens, Thomas Abinanti, and several other Assemblymembers.

According to the proposed new law, the gun dealer must keep a written record of everyone they receive a firearm from and transfer a gun to in a logbook. The record must include the time, date, name, occupation, and the residence of the person transferring or receiving the firearm. This requirement far exceeds what is required by the ATF’s 4473 Form or federal law. Gun rights advocates wonder why New York wants to know the occupation of gun owners.

The dealer or gunsmith must also record the make, model, caliber, and serial number of the firearm in accordance with federal record-keeping laws. Per the proposed law, the dealer must submit an electronic copy of the records to the state police and keep another on hand. The new law causes a lot of extra work for the gun dealers, and some believe that the purpose of the law is to discourage people from starting gun shops in the notoriously anti-gun state.

Anti-gun groups have touted waiting periods as a lifesaving measure, but waiting periods have cost people their lives. One state over, in New Jersey, Carol Bowne applied for a gun permit to purchase a firearm. She recently took out a restraining order against her ex-boyfriend and convicted felon Michael Eitel. She was afraid that the man wanted to do her harm.

Knowing that a restraining order is just a piece of paper that Eitel would most likely ignore, Browne sought a gun to protect herself from her obsessed ex-lover. New Jersey has a 30-day waiting period for a permit to buy a gun. Unfortunately, it wouldn’t take Eitel 30-days to attack Browne. The crazed man stabbed Browne to death before the state granted her the ability to buy a gun legally.

Browne wasn’t the first person to die because of a waiting period. Another New Jersey resident, Letizia “Lisa” Zindell, was strangled by her boyfriend the night he got out of jail for violating a restraining order demanding he leaves Zindell alone. The woman was also waiting on a permit to buy a firearm.

The New York bill is currently in committee.

This session is the third time the bill has been introduced in the Assembly. It was introduced in the 2017-2018 (A11287) and 2019-2020 (A890) Sessions—both times, the bill stalled in committee.


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Arizona Don

There are in the neighborhood of ten thousand restrictive gun laws on the books of the United States all fifty of them. Yet we have nearly uncontrollable gun crimes here in the United States even today. Who wonders why that is?  The public is beginning to understand restrictive gun laws do nothing to reduce crime and that is a provable fact for they never have. As a matter of fact the opposite may be true. They enhance the ability of criminals to commit crimes by disarming law abiding citizens.  If that were not fact why would certain areas with the most restrictive gun… Read more »

musicman44mag

Kommiefornia and then some. It’s been stalled 4 times before. I guess the witch and the others that support it has stalled brains that fell from the sky hit the earth and they just haven’t become completely brain dead yet because they haven’t got the message. They do anything, (anything) they can to deter us from buying or keeping our guns. Having to fill out a form and wait 10 days to get my gun back from a gunsmith that I own. B.S. Just like the bill. Why does the PD need a record of a gun that already exists?… Read more »

CaptainKerosene

THEY should try to pass a law requiring criminals at least 10 days notice of planned crimes
Or if 10 days isn’t enough time for a ” cooling off” maybe 3650 days will do it..
Maybe a law against rape, robbery, theft, bad checks and forgery will satisfy THEM.
THEIR GOAL IS TYRANNY BY A THOUSAND CUTS.

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Monkey Mouse

Incorrect, NJ has a 30 day waiting period between buying one handgun and the next handgun. But yes, Carol Bowne was killed waiting for something that honestly took way too long for her to legally acquire – some towns were more than 6 months wait during 2020 with COVID fueled purchases overloading the system.

musicman44mag

And some police/sheriff departments closed down to the public and made it impossible to get approved. I bet they took the peoples nonrefundable money and application though.

OreGONE

Russn8r

BACK THE BLUE!

JSNMGC

They are brave! (not quite as brave as grocery store clerks)

Wass

In the case of the murdered Carol Bowne, she waited on a permit which wasn’t coming anyway. She didn’t meet the onerous requirement for a pistol permit. As far as the authorities are concerned, an order of protection by a judge is sufficient to defend against a belligerent boyfriend.

Russn8r

Did those authorities have badges?

Montana454Casull

Why anyone would live in New York is the big question ? I prefer a free state where I can purchase a firearm and walk out the door 15 minutes later with my new purchase. You could not give me the whole state of New York for free . New York is a blue turd that needs flushed into the Atlantic ocean .

Patriot Solutions

Expect more attacks from regional commanders of the Khazarain mafia masonic soldiers (bull shiters) of the NWO because Khazarian land has fallen and the big boys are MIA and my feed is loaded with politicians, bankers and media who just got covid because nothing is going down and info on the internet is false. Expect earthquakes and what appears to be WW3 breaking out as heavy stuff leaves the pad and other stuff falls from the sky to destroy what can’t be seen globally. Trumps EO’s and PEAD’s are kicking ass and there’s not a damn thing the Jewish Khazarian… Read more »

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TStheDeplorable

Waiting period laws are the most pro-domestic violence laws out there. As a retired cop I saw a phenomenon of women finally realizing that “he’s going to kill me,” and asking for help getting out of their home. All a ten day waiting period accomplishes is giving the violent partner a ten day safe period in which to stalk and attack her for leaving him.

Patriot Solutions

Ah, the successes of gun control. I get it.

musicman44mag

Ya, that death creates another statistic to support total gun confiscation by the left. It works so great too. Just look at Britian, Australia, New Zeeland etc. for an example of no murder because they took away the guns. I am sure they have it in a book of lies somewhere.

OreGONE

Patriot Solutions

Inspiring.

Perhaps they can adopt the Whistle Stop Program while waiting.

“See a robbery happening? This alderman wants you to run toward the offenders while blowing a whistle.”

https://cwbchicago.com/2021/12/see-a-robbery-happening-this-alderman-wants-you-to-run-toward-the-offenders-while-blowing-a-whistle.html

“Freeze sucker or I’ll toot”

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JSNMGC

From the article you posted about Chicago: “It allows people to come to the victim’s aid, forces the offender to flee, and helps the police pinpoint the location of the crime,” Smith claimed. I wonder if anyone has told her it doesn’t do any of those things. Violent criminals are going to commit violent crimes. A certain percentage of enforcers will arrest people who take steps to protect themselves from violent criminals. They will go out for beers afterward and laugh about the person whose life they ruined because the person thought the Constitution protected their rights and enforcers were… Read more »

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Patriot Solutions

It is a common perception among delusion posters that leo’s who willfully disobey the Constitution are hero’s for knowing and protecting their own rights while in the same moment shitting all over the rights of others. It actually in most cases says why this happens right on their badges. One can not be a hero and violate the Constitution of which they swore an oath to up-hold because the Constitution is actually this country and hero’s would never attack it. Kool-Aid is wicked brew. hero noun. A word that has recently been overused in the American English vocabulary. It has… Read more »

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JSNMGC

That about sums it up.

swmft

and the abuse of words cheapens them, which is the intent

Patriot Solutions

But trying to help people understand what’s going on right now is like running into a burning building to pull them out only to have them punching us in the face while demanding evidence that the building is on fire while the building is full of smoke and flames.

JSNMGC

Thanks for the laugh! I almost spit my coffee out.

It’s no wonder non-government employees have suffered so much over the last 50-some years. People who consider themselves patriots do nothing to influence politics, support laws that allow the tools of tyrants to get away with abusing the rights of non-government employees with little personal risk, and then pound they chests and expect thank yous.

Patriot Solutions

But it keeps the tyrants in groceries & Kool-Aid and they are hungry, Lol.

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musicman44mag

Sorry, I am not going to spend a dam dime or minute in Illinois or any other state that doesn’t honor other state CCW. Just like if I move out of OreGONE, I won’t come back until they bury me next to my dad and grandfather. I left Kommiefornia and never looked back, I will do the same here. OreGONE where your CCW isn’t worth the paper it is written on. Federally mandated Reciprocity or Constitutional carry. If we have the house, senate and presidency ever again, we must demand it and protest for it in major numbers until we… Read more »

musicman44mag

Awaiting for approval. Do you think it is because we had such a long conversation the other day?

Russn8r

“Awaiting for approval.” Reads like they offshored the moderation to India.

musicman44mag

It was probably a word I used like the big Jan. 6th word.

JSNMGC

Don’t know.

Their site, their rules.

I appreciate the opportunity for frank conversation.

It’s frustrating sometimes. I have no idea how the program works.

musicman44mag

I have found that there are key words and phrase that they have an eye out for. can’t say what they are because it will be held, usually till the next day when no one will ever see it. I don’t mind the monitoring though it is frustrating, what I don’t like is the amount of time it takes to get it posted.

musicman44mag

LoL, thank you, I will remember that and chuckle all day. Too funny,

To you down voters I was referring to “freez sucker or I will toot” LOL again.

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