Ninth Circuit Remands Young v. Hawaii Back to District Court

Oral Arguments for En Banc Review of Young v. Hawaii on 24 September, 2020
Ninth Circuit Remands Young v. Hawaii Back to District Court

U.S.A.-(– On August 19, 2022, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals summarily remanded the Young v. Hawaii case back to the District Court for a re-hearing after the Supreme Court granted cert, vacated the previous Ninth Circuit decision, and remanded the case back to the Ninth Circuit for a rehearing.

In 2011, George Young applied twice to obtain a permit to carry a firearm for self-defense outside his home in Hawaii, either openly or concealed. Both his applications were denied by the Chief of Police, Harry Kubojiri, who cited Hawaii law.

Young filed a lawsuit claiming his Constitutional right to keep and bear arms was violated and lost at the District Court level. He appealed to the Ninth Circuit. The three-judge panel at the Ninth Circuit held for Young. The Ninth Circuit agreed to hear the case en banc. The en banc panel held against Young. The case made it all the way to the Supreme Court.

The court had not heard the case when they released the NYSR&PA v Bruen decision this year. Shortly after the Bruen decision, the Supreme Court granted a writ of certiorari to Young and three other cases, vacated all four, and remanded them back down to the appellate level to be re-heard at the various appellate courts.

In the case of Young, it was and is the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

At that point, it would have appeared Young had finally won his decade-long court fight to be granted a permit to carry in order to exercise his Second Amendment rights.

As those who have observed this fight, and commented on it over the years, have noted, the Ninth Circuit is actively hostile to exercising Second Amendment rights. It is not an exaggeration to say the Ninth Circuit actively dislikes the concept of a right to keep and bear arms.

Instead of telling Hawaii to follow the standards put forth in Bruen, the Court remanded Young back to the District court, essentially telling George Young to start all over from ten years ago, albeit, with a new understanding from the Bruen decision.

A strong dissent, written by Judge O’Scannlain, and joined by Judges Callahan, Ikuta, and R. Nelson against the seven-member majority of the eleven-member en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit, points out the needless delay created by this maneuver. From the dissent, p. 12:

 Today we shy away from our obligations to answer the straightforward legal questions presented on appeal and to provide guidance to the lower courts in our Circuit. And in doing so, we waste judicial resources by sending the parties back to square one at the district court. The parties have waited a decade to resolve this litigation, and Young has waited over ten years to exercise his constitutional right to carry a handgun in public for self-defense. Because we opt not to decide this simple case, we force Young to wait even longer.

A cynical observer, such as this correspondent, might consider delaying the point of the maneuver.  A delay is essentially a partial win for those without desire to follow the Constitution or the rule of law.  Those in power in Hawaii are able to continue to violate the rights of its citizens for at least a few more months.


Who knows what might happen? The Democrats may be able to keep control of the House and the Senate in the mid-term elections, thereby putting the possibility of packing the Supreme Court back into play.

A Democrat-packed Supreme Court would undoubtedly reverse Bruen, Cateano, McDonald, and Heller. Then the Ninth Circuit could return to its fable that the Second Amendment was never about individual rights.

The United States might lose a hot war with China, as we appear to be losing the undeclared by obvious economic and information wars with China.  Most of our “ruling class” already appears to have been “captured” economically and ideologically by the Chinese Communist Party.

The Ninth Circuit might find the new government more closely aligned with the Ninth Circuit’s views on the Constitution if it is allowed to exist.

About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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The Crimson Pirate

Could just be hackey sack. The 9th circus sends it back to the bottom, where the ruling is in Young’s favor. Hawaii appeals and gets a stay on the pro Young ruling while the appeal goes forward, and it winds up heading back to the 9th circus. A 3 judge panel rules against young this time and it goes to an En Banc hearing again in 4 or 5 or 10 years. They just keep kicking the little leather sack around as long as they can and don’t have to mandate shall issue in the entire 9th circus region.


Yup, known as a circle jerk.


more accurately: TREASON. Disarming the common man IS an act of war. Disarmed, he is defenseless thus vulnarable to harm and destruction.

The Crimson Pirate

A some point we are all going have to do what the pot heads did; Say F it, and do what we know we have a right to do, then defend ourselves if they try to enforce illegal and unconstitutional laws.


Massive civil disobedience is a legitimate response to unlawful government action. When oppression meets with massive disobedience we can simply overwhelm the judicial system.


shoot them all and let god sort them out, we make a clean slate


Justice delayed is justice denied!


What a load of Horseshit ! So the Supreme Court rulings mean nothing now nor will they in the future. Pack the court all they like. It will have NO authority just as it does now.


The late Congressman, Thomas P.”Tip” O’Neil”, who famously said: “All politics is local”, must have been talking about Hawaii. If the state had a larger number of gun owners, organized and clambering for gun rights, the outcome in this case would be different. Instead, Hawaii, which happens to have a sizable plurality of residents on public assistance, as well as a narrow economy reliant only on tourism and low employed agriculture, could not be very concerned about the Second Amendment rights of a few litigants. With some luck, Young’s grandchild (if it decides to live in the Holoah State) will… Read more »


My Analysis is that the the constitution already grants , guarantees is God given our right to protect ourselves.

Democrats disagree if you know one who about to be robbed or assaulted walk away and smile

Wild Bill

Respectfully, our Right to protect ourselves, in a meaningful way, predates the US Constitution. The Constitution protects that Right.


Federal judges serve in periods of good behavior. While the nation is in the mode of redefining every single commonly held concept why not have a conservative administration redefine good behavior to include simple competence and compliance with higher court precedents. When judges vote contrary to recently declared precedents they are doing so for one of two reason: first, incompetence; second, belligerence. Both issues need to be addressed under the standard of good behavior and the appropriate forum for resolving the issue of good behavior is impeachment. When a court of appeals has a 85% reversal rate it is time… Read more »

Patriot Solutions

“Most” includes even the ones who are good actors. The government didn’t screw this country up this bad from their satanic freemason hell hole called DC because only some are corrupt and look no further than the Khazarian mafia bankers Kabbalah to see who runs the CCP which is exactly the same people who run DC like I been saying for years it’s just a different day similar to all the other days for thousands of years nothing new under the sun worshippers sun if your awake and not so easily fooled like those here who have spent a life… Read more »

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Dubi Loo

The real goal is to make it so expensive that Young can’t redo the process, thus denying his Right without a fight, or publicity.