
Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- On 3 October 2018, Michael Dunn shot and killed Christobal Lopez, during a struggle where Lopez was attempting to steal a hatchet from Dunn’s Vets Army Navy Surplus store. The store is located in Lakeland, Florida.
Dunn, 47, was attempting to stop Lopez, 50, from leaving the store while he was holding the hatchet he was stealing. Surveillance video from inside the store showing the last part of the struggle, which ended in a fatal shooting. From tampabay.com:
Still pointing the gun at Lopez, Dunn tries to grab Lopez’s shoulder from behind with his left hand as Lopez makes it out the door, the video shows. Dunn’s hand slips off Lopez’s shoulder but Dunn is able to grab a fistful of the man’s t-shirt. Lopez raises his left arm in an apparent attempt to break free, and then Dunn appears to fire.
Lopez falls to the pavement just outside the door. He appears to shake for a moment, then lies still as Dunn keeps the gun trained on him.
At the moment Dunn fires, Lopez is holding the door with his right hand and appears to be holding an object in that same hand. It’s unclear if the object is the hatchet that Lopez is suspected of trying to steal when he was shot.
The standard for justifiable self-defense, in Florida, is that the defender may use deadly force if the defender reasonably believes it to be necessary to prevent imminent death or severe bodily injury. From Florida statutes 776.12:
(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
Shoplifting is not defined as a forcible felony.
Note the standard in the statute is subjective, based on what the defender knew and reasonably believed at the time.
You can see the hatchet that was being stolen in the frame from the video below.
If you watch the video frame by frame, it is clear the hatchet came from Lopez’s hand and was not placed there afterward.

Under Florida law, a person is not justified in pointing a firearm at another person unless they are in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury.
The defense, in this case, may be that the store owner, Michael Dunn, had a reasonable fear for his life when confronting Christobal Lopez, who was armed with a deadly weapon, the hatchet, which he was stealing from the store.
I am not a lawyer, but it seems reasonable to me to have a firearm pointed at a person who is armed with a deadly weapon, who is stealing from your store.
Michael Dunn was taking a considerable risk in attempting to stop Christobal Lopez from leaving the store with the stolen hatchet. If store owners simply allow thieves to steal without consequences, they may be forced out of business.
People will ask if a hatchet is worth a man’s life. That question could be asked of both thieves and store owners.
Others may ask if a man’s livelihood is worth defending.
About Dean Weingarten:
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30-year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
This statement is horribly incorrect: “Note the standard in the statute is subjective, based on what the defender knew and reasonably believed at the time.” The determination of justification is based on an objective (reasonableness of belief) standard. This statement is horribly incorrect: “Under Florida law, a person is not justified in pointing a firearm at another person unless they are in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury.” Gunpointing in Florida is as a matter of law non-deadly force. Non-deadly force can be used to protect person or property without deadly force predicate as posited by the author.… Read more »
I’ll lose no sleep on this shooting of a thug
what may screw the store owner is, the guy was leaving the store and wasn’t a threat at that point.. he didn’t become a threat until the store owner grabbed him and tried to stop him from leaving with the stolen merchandise … so they will say the owner initiated the confrontation… he better get a good lawyer !!!
IMO, The crux of this case lies in if the perp was ARMED at the time of the shooting (which he was) you marry this with the store owner feeling IN FEAR FOR HIS LIFE and you have a open and shut case of self-defense.. The argument that the perp was not swinging the axe or using it in a threatening way is asinine IMO….we cannot determine INTENT or what the perp was thinking from a short video clip! Put yourself in the store owners shoes: A Man with an axe is trying to steal from you, you have to… Read more »
TS for the bad guy, YEAH for the good guy. Guess who won’t be stealing anything any more. (TS = Tough Situation)
In Kansas and probably Florida, any person observing a crime may make a citizens arrest. The store owner was attempting to make a citizens’ arrest of a man armed with a deadly weapon which he had just stolen. The shooting was because the weapon was a threat to the life of the store owner who has a right to make a citizens’ arrest. The threat of deadly force is lawful in Kansas and probably also in Florida. When the axe/hatchet appeared to be used as seen by the store owner the use of deadly force was justified. IANAL or a… Read more »